Not ready to move on just yet

Blood brothers:

“This isn’t about some aging rockstar way past his prime that simply needs to go away,” Davis said during her remarks at the Texas Democratic Women Convention in Austin. “This is about Greg Abbott. It’s about his character, his judgment, his values when he stands on a stage next to someone like that and refers to him as his ‘blood brother.’”

Feel free to discuss whether this is about some aging rockstar, or something else entirely.

81 replies
  1. 1
    Marc says:

    Good for her. When your opponent is sinking, throw him an anvil.

  2. 2
    gbear says:

    It’s always about the aging rock star. Just ask Christie.

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    Baud says:

    Such incivility. Tsk, tsk. /Village

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    TR says:

    Wait, a Democrat who knows how to campaign? How can this be?

  5. 5
    Baud says:


    Speaking of (Newsmax):

    Chris Christie’s Mansion Fund Collected Millions

    I missed this story on Karnacki this morning. Anyone want to go sewer diving and tell us what this is about?

  6. 6
    Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937 says:

    Its about someone who brags about defecating in their pants and preying upon underage girls.

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    Cassidy says:

    @TR: She’s not pure, though.

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    Anya says:

    @TR: The best part is, you know Nugent has no self control so he’s going to say something really offensive about Wendy Davis. Then it’s another Nugent related controversy the Abbott campaign has to address.

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    Kay says:

    @Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937:

    She goes to the underage girls thing later in the speech.

    Democratic women candidates speaking at “Democratic women” events in Ohio are always a little more freewheeling than the general theme. I don’t know why that is, but it’s true.

    Must be the same in Texas.

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    Anya says:

    @Baud: I am more interested in the healing bible verse.

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    GRANDPA john says:

    “Sen. Davis will say anything to avoid talking about the issue in this race, including her support for Obamacare and restricting the 2nd Amendment rights of Texans,” Hirsch said.

    So the character honesty. and integrity of the candidate and his associates are not issues in the race? only if you are a repub

  12. 12
    Baud says:


    Must be all the testosterone.


  13. 13

    I presume that only in Texas could you be in favor of open carry and still be “restricting the 2nd Amendment.”

  14. 14
    Corner Stone says:

    But was she in the trailer park long enough?
    I say no.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    His musical has-beenness aside, Ted Nugent is known for abject cowardice in the face of military service, having his way with underage girls, and less-than-gentlemanly manners in public. And I doubt he could articulate the Republican policy agenda on anything. Is it really a winning proposition for Greg Abbott to campaign with him who is called the Yosemite Sam of rock?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Mustang Bobby: Crazy as it sounds to everyone, there is one line in Texas you simply can’t cross. No matter what party you belong to.

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    Baud says:


    Google “Republican Alternative to Obamacare.”

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    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    Nugent should have “Poor Impulse Control” tattooed across his forehead.

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    Baud says:

    @Corner Stone:

    When’s the election? Maybe she can move into a trailer park now to make up the extra credit hours she needs.

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    Honus says:

    Wendy Davis hit it perfectly. It’s about Abbot calling Nugent his “Blood Brother” (and Cruz refusing to repudiate Nugent). Make the republicans own Nugent. And Limbaugh, and all their ilk.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Baud: It’s too late. She has an education now. She’s dead to us.

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    Cacti says:

    At 65, I’d call Ted aged not aging.

    Not to mention, when was the last decade that he could credibly be called a rock star?

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @Baud: No Newsmax diving but some Googling… The official NJ governor’s mansion is called Drumthwacket, it’s outside Princeton. There is a charitable foundation that pays for it’s upkeep and maintenance, and also paid for restoration of the building. Christie and his wife are president and vice president of the Foundation. The CEO of Prudential Ins. and his wife are chairman and vice chairman of the Foundation. The major role all these people play is in fundraising.

    There are different stories going round of donors getting political favors when they made significant contributions to the Foundation. And example is Trump making contributions of some $25,000 over several years and getting permission to build a private, family cemetery in NJ.

    ETA: Christie and family do not live there but it is used for official functions; they have used it every few days since he was elected.

  24. 24
    Kay says:


    You have to go to one. I can’t explain it- laughing, ridicule, a lot of milling around and refusing to clear the aisles. It’s different. She’d be perfect in that room.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Baud: I just hope people keep telling us all how she really wasn’t divorced until she was 21, only lived in a trailer for some number of months, and then earned higher education while her partner handled other family matters.

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    Kay says:

    @Corner Stone:

    “He raised her children” While she was sitting in the bar?

    It just grates on me.

  27. 27
    Corner Stone says:

    Oh, and James Moore and Wayne Slater are perfect illustrations of the Old Boy Texas Democratic Party.
    Just shut your pie hole, fools.

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    Baud says:


    Thanks. Too many things to keep track of with that guy.


    I’ll try to attend one. I’ll have to watch some old episodes of Bosom Buddies first to learn how to blend in.

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    Baud says:

    @Corner Stone:

    I can’t say I think she’ll win, but maybe Abbot will say something stupid about “legitimate rape” (or the Texas equivalent since …. well…. you know).

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    Thor Heyerdahl says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Is it really a winning proposition for Greg Abbott to campaign with him who is called the Yosemite Sam of rock?

    That’s so unfair to Yosemite Sam to be compared to a shitting Republican.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Baud: I recommend Nuns on the Run, as well.

  32. 32
    Anoniminous says:


    Different styles. Women tend to be more comfortable in networks. Men tend to be more comfortable in hierarchies. Granted that’s a cliche. It also happens to be true(ish.)

    Neither style is inherently “better” than the other.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @Baud: You’re welcome. That Newsmax title caught my attention and I wanted to find out information on the mansion. Gotta love the name Drumthwacket.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Kay: Wendy Davis has, possibly, the most tricky path to election of any candidate running for elected office this term.
    I’m not on board with some things, but have committed lots of time and money so far. That’s just the way it is right now with Democrats running in TX.
    It should piss you off. It pisses me off. I hope it sticks in the craw of all women in TX.

  35. 35
    AdamK says:

    They should change the name of this blog to Kay Juice.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @efgoldman: I didn’t see any reference to that, but the stories hinge around stuff like corporations getting permission to do things like move into newer office buildings, or, like Trump, getting permission to build his own cemetery.

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    Baud says:

    @Corner Stone:

    I hope it sticks in the craw of all women in TX.

    I think it will, based on my read of Texas women, which is based entirely on three episodes of the show Killer Women.

  38. 38
    Kay says:

    @Corner Stone:

    I just really like her. I understand that she’s a long shot. I like how she handled that controversy. I’m tired of women apologizing. People lead complicated lives. We all do, but women are the only ones called to explain everything. I’m sick of that.

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    Violet says:

    Posted this in a previous Ted Nugent thread, but in case anyone missed it:

    Tagg Romney ‏@tromney

    Ted Nugent endorsed my Dad today. Ted Nugent? How cool is that?! He joins Kid Rock as great Detroit musicians on team Mitt!

    2:09 PM – 2 Mar 2012

    Ted Nugent wasn’t just acceptable in 2012, his endorsement was “cool”.

  40. 40
    Baud says:


    They should change the name of this blog to Kay Juice.

    Kay’s my favorite blogger, but that title is … um….no.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Kay: Well, my son and I both have Team Wendy T-shirts, plus a few fridge magnets in addition to outright donations. Field work has been a little tougher to this point in wingnutville. All the people I worked with for the Bill White campaign are really slow rolling this effort. I’m hoping Abbott sticks his joint in the mashed taters and we can pry some resources loose.
    She seems pretty brave.

  42. 42
    WaterGirl says:

    @Baud: It took you 3 episodes to figure out how bad that show was? It only took me one*.

    *But I continued to watch anyway, even knowing it was sure to be cancelled, because I like three of the male actors in the show.

  43. 43
    RSA says:


    Not to mention, when was the last decade that he could credibly be called a rock star?

    The last time one of his singles was in the top 40? That was 37 years ago, in 1977. Coincidentally, the median age in the U.S, per Wikipedia, is 36.8.

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    ruemara says:

    @Kay: Women. Having more balls when it counts, simply because you have to to get ahead, since… forever.

  45. 45
    Baud says:


    When Balloon Juice is slow, bad things happen.

  46. 46
    ruemara says:

    @WaterGirl: Aww, I really liked that show. I’m a sucker for the leads.

  47. 47
    Corner Stone says:


    When Balloon Juice is slow, bad things happen.

    Don’t get body slammed by a lowland gorilla.

  48. 48
    WaterGirl says:

    @Baud: So true.

    What was with that thread the other night about Matt Tabbi? It didn’t seem to matter how many people explained that First Look Media was not the same as the new place Ezra is putting together, people just kept on discussing things like they were one and the same.

    Were people just punching punking one another?

    Edit: autocorrect turned punking into punching.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Drumthwacket sounds like something out of a Harry Potter book.

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  51. 51
    Baud says:


    Were people just punching one another?

    Given my experience here, I’m going to say “yes.”

    Seriously, that was weird. I don’t follow our punditocracy as much as others, so it was all very confusing.

    ETA: I like “punching” better.

  52. 52
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: The original Pyewacket was one of the familiars of an English witch detected by Matthew Hopkins. He/she/it was an imp not a cat.

  53. 53
    WaterGirl says:

    @Baud: That weird thread sent me googling to figure out what was what. First Look Media looks like a really interesting concept to me, and I think Ezra kind of missed the boat by going the direction he did.

    But I’ve gotten kind of turned off by Ezra, so I’m not losing any sleep over it. I wonder if he might be, though.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: I always thought that the name was a great touch in the movie. Also too, Novak was sexier as a witch than as mortal.

  55. 55
    Don K says:


    Wouldn’t that be the Woodrow Wilson bedroom, since he was actually governor of NJ (Cleveland was born there, but moved to NY for his elective career)?

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    dmsilev says:

    @Violet: Yes, but to be fair, anything that a Mittlet refers to as ‘cool’ has to be graded on a curve.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @NotMax: Drumthwacket is taken from two Scottish Gaelic words meaning “wooded hill”. It is in Princeton, it was built in 1835 on land that was the site of the 1777 battle of Princeton. It was sold to the State in 1966 but the restoration was on hold until years later when they could raise the money needed.

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    John Revolta says:

    @Mike in NC:

    They were going to go with “Pluckenlyre” but it somehow didn’t make the cut.

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    NotMax says:


    Been there. Princeton is lovely. Trenton, on the other hand, looks like every Hollywood-inspired urban dystopia rolled into one.

    There’s a reason that NJ is the only state (of those which have a governor’s mansion) that doesn’t site it in its capital.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @NotMax: Ohio’s is in a Columbus suburb.

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    NotMax says:

    @Omes omnibus

    I stand (well, type) corrected. Same for Wisconsin and Tennessee, apparently. Trenton is still a pit.

    Vermont (bless ’em) sold off the governor’s mansion back in mid-last century.

  62. 62
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Wisconsin’s is in the Village of Maple Bluff – virtually Madison, but not quite.

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    JoyfulA says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Pennsylvania’s governor’s mansion was in Fort Indiantown Gap, in a whole different county from Harrisburg. After some decades of various governors’ complaints of how far away they lived from the office and how bad the commute was, etc., a new one was built not far from the Capitol.

    In the flood zone. So the first governor who lived in it had to evacuate it for a couple of weeks when a hundred-year flood hit.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    The original Pyewacket was one of the familiars of an English witch detected by Matthew Hopkins. He/she/it was an imp not a cat.

    I remember reading that ‘Pyewacket’ was also a slang term for the female genitalia — along the ever-popular folksong trope of going to the heather. Male hysteria about what women might be, um, getting up to when not strictly supervised was of course a large part of that Witchfinders craze…

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @NotMax: Back when I worked as a paralegal I spent several weeks going to insurance rate hearings at an office outside Princeton. Most of the time I stayed at a hotel at an office park. Yes, the Princeton area is beautiful.

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    Smiling Mortician says:

    @Corner Stone: I have laughed each time that one’s come up throughout my sporadic Olympics viewing.

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    Heliopause says:

    All rock stars are aging except the dead ones. Arguably, even them.

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    Cervantes says:


    She goes to the underage girls thing later in the speech.

    And how:

    His values are not my values and I know his values aren’t yours. And, given the cozy relationship he has with an admitted sexual predator, his values are not Texas values.

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    Cervantes says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    I remember reading that ‘Pyewacket’ was also a slang term for the female genitalia

    Do you recall where?

  70. 70
    Cervantes says:

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate: And elsewhere.

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    Cervantes says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    And I doubt he could articulate the Republican policy agenda on anything.

    And neither can John Boehner — so there’s that.

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    Cervantes says:

    @Baud: That was excellent. My hat is off.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Cervantes: I can tell you it was at least 40 years ago, but if I could track it any more closely I’d have included the attribution!

  74. 74
    Cervantes says:

    @Anne Laurie: Thanks regardless.

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    PIGL says:

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate: and then he should run into and threaten Hiro Protagonist.

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    Citizen Alan says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    The ending of Bell, Book & Candle always saddened me. This powerful sexual woman, broken by love, abandoned by her familiar, and forced to wear shoes. I bet Jimmy Stewart made her sell the store and stay at home to bake cookies and raise kids.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Citizen Alan:

    I saw a really funny cartoon by a (lesbian) cartoonist where Gil uses her magic powers to turn Shep into a woman and they live happily ever after as witches together.

    Personally, I prefer I Married A Witch, which doesn’t require anyone to give up their powers for love.

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    BobS says:

    @Violet: Tagg Romney obviously doesn’t know shit about music. You could fill a radio station playlist 24/7 with truly great Detroit music without giving a second thought to Ted Nugent (okay, probably makes the list with a single song, Journey to the Center of the Mind as a member of the Amboy Dukes) or Kid Rock (just a fucking caricature of a rock star). Along with New Orleans, Memphis, and very few others, Detroit has been one of the premier cities of American music for decades- McKinney’s Cotton Pickers & Don Redman, John Lee Hooker, Jack Scott, the Jones brothers, Smokey Robinson, the Four Tops, the MC5, the Stooges, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, George Clinton, James Carter, Stevie Wonder, the White Stripes, Eminem, and a legion of others. Calling Ted Nugent and Kid Rock “great Detroit musicians” is a slight to all of the immortals who actually deserve the tag.

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    GregB says:

    Pud brothers, a pair of dicks if there ever was.

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    Ben says:

    Not to mention Death

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    Fred says:

    I used to like The Amboy Dukes back in the day but then I liked Iron Butterfly too. My only excuse is I was a kid.
    Does Nugent buy those camouflage cowboy hats by the case? Seems like he’s been wearing the same damn one for near forty years. That kind of anal retentive smacks of pro wrestler costume more than musician chic. Guess it beats getting a job.

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