America The Predictable

Did you know that the national language of the United States is English? Oh, you didn’t? That’s because we don’t have a national language. Which is why it was so fun to watch the ignorance come out in response to the Coca-Cola Super Bowl commercial “It’s Beautiful,” which showed shots of different people while “America the Beautiful” played in multiple languages.

Because seriously? America isn’t a monolith. Just like Richard Sherman isn’t a thug.

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34 replies
  1. 1

    I asked my 8 year old what she thought of the ad. She said she thought it was nice that it was in more languages because more people would understand the song. Hmmmm.

  2. 2
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    America isn’t a monolith, although certain blockheaded people apparently think it is.

    Whocouldanode that the right wing would go apeshit over this commercial?

  3. 3
    WaterGirl says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: Um, some guy on twitter at MSNBC?

  4. 4
    Mnemosyne says:

    I also wonder if people watching the commercial somehow didn’t “get” that all of the shots were of the United States and not, say, foreigners in their own countries singing the song in their own languages. I think I saw some non-wingnuts yesterday who were a little confused on that point.

    Though, as someone said earlier, I’m really enjoying the spectacle of Angry White Guys telling Native Americans to go back where they came from. Almost as though Coke was expecting that response with their choices …

  5. 5
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @WaterGirl:

    Thank you. Yes, I did set that up…

    And there it goes, on it’s way to South America…

  6. 6
    Mnemosyne says:

    Though at least Coke took the pressure off Mrs. Obama for daring to appear on the Puppy Bowl with Bo and Sunny. Yes, folks, there actually was a right-wing freakout too small for the national media to notice.

  7. 7
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Oh, please. You can’t be serious.

    Oh, wait, we’re dealing with rabid racist scum here.

    Never mind…

  8. 8
    Baud says:

    Coke should have just done the whole ad in Esperanto

  9. 9
    Shortstop says:

    That’s because we don’t have a national language.

    And “America the Beautiful” isn’t our national anthem.

    Both of these points are news to the people expressing their outrage at this ad via abysmal English. Welcome to America! Now speak English as badly as I do!

  10. 10
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Twitchy.com (aka Michelle Malkin). Because there’s nothing too small for her to get upset about.

  11. 11
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Baud:

    And had William Shatner narrate it.

    In Esperanto.

  12. 12
    Mandalay says:

    Just like Richard Sherman isn’t a thug.

    While we are on the subject of thugs….

    A Florida murder trial, stemming from an argument over loud music at a gas station that ended in the shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, opens on Monday, reviving a debate over the state’s gun control and self-defense laws.

    Michael Dunn, 47, faces first-degree murder charges in the death of 17-year-old Jordan Davis on November 23, 2012….

    Dunn’s attorney, Cory Strolla, has filed motions asking the judge not to allow references in the trial to comments Dunn made in jailhouse letters or phone calls where he referred to Davis and to some inmates as “thugs“, and made other “alleged racial comments,” according to court documents.

    In a letter that Dunn sent to a local television reporter, he described Davis as a thug. “This case has never been about loud music,” Dunn wrote to news anchor Heather Crawford in October. “This case is about a local thug threatening to kill me because I dared to ask him to turn the music down.”

    If this murdering racist fucker walks then very bad things are going to happen.

  13. 13
    Mandalay says:

    Just like Richard Sherman isn’t a thug.

    While we are on the subject of thugs….

    A Florida murder trial, stemming from an argument over loud music at a gas station that ended in the shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, opens on Monday, reviving a debate over the state’s gun control and self-defense laws.

    Michael Dunn, 47, faces first-degree murder charges in the death of 17-year-old Jordan Davis on November 23, 2012….

    Dunn’s attorney, Cory Strolla, has filed motions asking the judge not to allow references in the trial to comments Dunn made in jailhouse letters or phone calls where he referred to Davis and to some inmates as “thugs“, and made other “alleged racial comments,” according to court documents.

    In a letter that Dunn sent to a local television reporter, he described Davis as a thug. “This case has never been about loud music,” Dunn wrote to news anchor Heather Crawford in October. “This case is about a local thug threatening to kill me because I dared to ask him to turn the music down.”

    If this murdering racist fucker walks then very bad things are going to happen.

  14. 14
    Baud says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Have to admit, that would have been awesomer.

    Maybe next year they can do a similar ad in Klingon.

  15. 15
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Mandalay:

    Holy Flurking Snitt.

    Dunn needs to go away into the Big House. Forever.

  16. 16
    Mandalay says:

    @Mandalay: But the good news is that the murdering fucker is also very dumb, and wrote racist rants while he was locked up, not realizing that the screws would read everything he wrote

    Dunn’s attorney, Cory Strolla, has filed motions asking the judge not to allow references in the trial to comments Dunn made in jailhouse letters or phone calls where he referred to Davis and to some inmates as “thugs”, and made other “alleged racial comments,” according to court documents.

    Ooops.

    I can’t see this guy coming out of prison alive.

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    Mandalay says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Dunn needs to go away into the Big House. Forever.

    Well it won’t be forever, but I think he’ll be leaving in a box.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Under Florida law, he will probably walk free, because all their self-defense law requires now is that Dunn show that he felt that his life was in danger. Not that a reasonable person in the same situation would have felt threatened (which is the standard in most other states), but whether he, personally, felt threatened.

    That was a change that was made to the regular self-defense law thanks to Stand Your Ground, BTW. As soon as I saw that during the Zimmerman trial, I knew Zimmerman was going to walk, and this guy is going to walk, too. Once you make it about what the person’s fee-fees were and not how a reasonable person thinks, you basically gut the law entirely.

  19. 19
    Slugger says:

    I did learn something from the ad; though, Coke is kosher! Cool.
    Actually, the people upset by this ad might want to think about the fact that the Coca-Cola corporation which is a marketing behemoth cares more about reaching out to the people in the ad than it worries about offending them. The Coke ad deniers are an unimportant minority….ha, ha, you lost Mr. Easily Offended.

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    Mandalay says:

    Coca-Cola corporation which is a marketing behemoth cares more about reaching out to the people in the ad than it worries about offending them

    Would that Coca Cola be related to this Coca Cola, or are they completely different companies?….

    Coca-Cola have been in trouble again after the word “gay” appeared to be banned from the Sochi sponsor’s customisable “share a Coke” function.

    The soft drink giant has issued an apology after its new social media campaign backfired horribly.

    The Olympic sponsor’s marketing campaign in South Africa wanted fans to share a virtual can of Coke personalised with a friend’s name or message.

    But when users tried to enter “gay”, the website responded with a message saying: “Oops. Let’s pretend you didn’t just type that.”

  21. 21
    pseudonymous in nc says:

    Keeping with the TWIB theme, what’s interesting about the reaction to the Coke ad is that America has actually proved very good at turning families who arrive speaking a foreign language into English-speaking xenophobes in about two generations, especially if those families are white.

    It is less good at treating non-whites as equals regardless of how long they or their ancestors have been in America, and comes up with all sorts of ways to exclude them.

  22. 22
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Slugger:

    Depending on where you live, you can sometimes find specially formulated Coke that’s kosher for Passover (i.e. it’s made with real sugar, not HFCS). It comes with a yellow cap on the 2-liter.

    I used to be able to find it in the Valley, but not anymore. Maybe I have to find a mass-market grocery store around Fairfax.

    ETA: Ah, okay — California banned one of the chemicals in Coke as a carcinogen, and Coke says they’re still working on the reformulation. I may have to have a relative out of state send me a bottle.

  23. 23
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Mandalay:

    IIRC, the Coca-Cola Company franchises itself to other countries, so they may not have control over the actions of the South African franchise.

  24. 24
    Origuy says:

    @Slugger:

    Coke is kosher!

    Except during Passover. Coke in the US is sweetened with high fructose corn syrup. Ashkenazi Orthodox Jews consider corn forbidden during Passover. Sephardim do not. I don’t think I could explain why even if I were Jewish, so here’s what Wikipedia says. All I know is that Mexican Coke gets extra popular around here at Pesach.

  25. 25
    Slugger says:

    Thanks for the kashrut info. I have long thought a Sephardic seder with chips and salsa would be fun.
    My comments were intended to point out that the far right is a set out dead-enders that corporate America, Coke and General Mills for example, ignores. This probably accounts for their bitterness.

  26. 26
    Glocksman says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    That’s not what Florida law says.

    Florida self defense law

    776.012 Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:
    (1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or
    (2) Under those circumstances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013.

    776.013 is the home defense section.

    The Florida standard is the same one used in just about every other state.
    Putting it mildly, It’s Florida’s application of the standard that leaves a little bit to be desired.

  27. 27
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Glocksman:

    Here’s what jurors in California are told (emphasis mine):

    The objective standard, the requirement in some states, calls for the jury to be instructed to view the occurrence in question through the eyes of the “ordinary man.” In other words, jurors must compare the defendant’s acts with the acts of a hypothetical “reasonable person” under the same or similar circumstances.

    (snip)

    Other states have adopted a subjective standard that compels the jury to view the acts in question through the defendant’s imperfect eyes. This theory has the advantage of opening up much to advocacy, but in many cases it also puts the onus on the defendant to take the stand to tell his or her story to twelve critical peers.

    So, yes, there is a difference between states where jurors are asked to consider what a “reasonable person” would think and states where jurors are told to consider what the defendant “reasonably believed.” California uses the “reasonable person” standard. As you can see in your quote above, Florida uses the defendant’s belief as the standard.

    I know it seems like a fine distinction, but it’s a very important one.

    ETA: Sorry, forgot the link.

  28. 28
    mclaren says:

    The responses to that commercial were more powerful in the original German, especially when screamed by that guy with the toothbrush moustache.

  29. 29
    Jay C says:

    @Slugger:

    I did learn something from the ad; though, Coke is kosher! Cool.

    Is it also halal?
    Someone should find out and publicize the fact so that more wingnuts can make asses out of themselves screeching about “Creeping Sharia” or whatever….

  30. 30
    Glocksman says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Thanks for the link.

    IANAL, but wouldn’t the defendant’s belief still have to be a reasonable one?
    In this particular case, Dunn may indeed walk if he can convince a jury his belief was reasonable.

    Which would explain why his lawyer doesn’t want any of his jailhouse letters and utterances to come within a mile of that jury box.

    On the other hand, that nut in West Virginia who shot the 2 guys entering their own shed with a scoped rifle would have a hell of a time convincing even Ted Nugent that his belief was reasonable.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Jay C:
    As far as I know, there’s no reason to suspect Coke is haram, and so no real need to certify it as halal. No credible religious authority has issued a fatwa (i.e. guidance) against drinking it. It contains no alcohol or other intoxicant. It’s not made with parts from pigs or any animal not properly slaughtered, or other ritually unclean ingredients.

  32. 32
    Betty Cracker says:

    @Mnemosyne & @Glocksman: This is a dead thread and y’all might not see this, but as I understand it, the elimination of the “duty to retreat” is what makes FL law different — and so dangerous. The “reasonable person” standard applies WRT assessing danger, but prior to SYG, the shooter had to take all reasonable steps to remove himself from the confrontation before using deadly force. That’s what SYG eliminated.

    PS: I correctly predicted that Zimmerman would walk, but I think Dunn will almost certainly be convicted and go to jail for life, as he should. There were witnesses whom he neglected to shoot.

  33. 33
    Glocksman says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    It *might* be the difference, but Florida is hardly alone in not having a duty to retreat.

    Indiana for example only recently added a SYG provision to the Indiana Code, but the doctrine has been established case law here for decades.

    California, surprisingly enough, doesn’t either.

    Interesting piece on CA defense laws.

  34. 34
    Bart says:

    Guys, please FIX YOUR SOUND. This video starts of with a loud song, followed by a man speaking at a much lower volume, and then a woman is significantly lower. Level that out, please, for the sake of my speakers and my ears.

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