John had some epic battles with this douche back in the day:
I have another name for American Indians – sore losers. You lost, biatches. Get over it, already.
— DanRiehl (@DanRiehl) October 11, 2013
I went through a stage of thinking that the far right blogosphere should be ignored. But now that Erick Erickson is a member of the shadow cabinet….
dmsilev
Scans better that way.
KG
I have no words…
Baud
How are the negotiations with Obama going?
Redshirt
The Rise of the College Republicans
NotMax
(With apologies to raven.)
What’s in the water in Georgia, anyway?
KG
@KG: ok, no, I have words (thank you Left Coast Voo Doo Stout, what’s possibly my favorite beer at the moment)…
Maybe it’s the fiction writer in me, but there are a lot of times (like earlier) that I wonder if the world wouldn’t have been better if some really important event not happened. Like, would we be better off if Columbus’s fleet sank? Granted, the Chinese apparently found the New World a couple centuries before, and the Vikings (or Knights Templar… because who doesn’t love History Channel conspiracy shows?) probably also found it long before 1492… Or better yet, what if the native New World diseases spread through Europe instead of the other way around?
aimai
Well, substitute “neo-confederates” and I’d go along with that twit.
raven
@NotMax: Stupid motherfuckers know no state lines.
Mike in NC
Who is Dan Riehl (really don’t care) and why shouldn’t he go fuck himself?
Violet
Wow. Clicked through to the old John Cole post. Sample:
Quite the evolution for John Cole.
And that Dan Riehl is a piece of work. From the old post, here’s how he referred to John:
Conservatives: Winning hearts and minds since never.
Linnaeus
What a shithead.
KG
@NotMax: do they not realize that if they “lose the House”, that the Dems will just be able to “shove Obamacare down their throats” all over again? Like, Pelosi and Reid wouldn’t get it through, maybe even with single payer if the majorities are big enough?
Spaghetti Lee
@NotMax:
How about losing the house and no concessions? Now that’s my kind of compromise.
Spaghetti Lee
I think Sadly No used to slap Riehl around a lot. He was a Bush dead-ender well into 2007-08, so he knows a little bit about sore loserdom.
chopper
@Mike in NC:
1) an idiot
2) there is absolutely no reason i can think of.
WereBear
@Linnaeus: I would say he is an absolute shithead, who of course repels absolutely.
Woodrowfan
@KG: Well, the Chinese discovery part is certainly fiction.* But if Columbus sank someone else would have been here before too long. European fishermen were already reaching the Grand Banks pretty early.
* FYI, the guy who wrote the book about the Chinese fleet discovering America is now working on a book on how Atlantis was real. He’s not a real good judge of sources…
dmsilev
@NotMax: On the other hands, there’s this:
The Pale Scot
Simon Graham: I always had a dread fascination with scalping. I never quite understood its technique.
Algren: Imagine someone who hates you with the utmost intensity grabbing a handful of your hair while you’re lying prostrate and helpless. And scraping a dull blade of a rusty knife around your scalp with a saw-like motion. And let your imagination grasp, if you can, Mr. Graham, the effect of a strong, quick jerk on the turf of your hair to release any clinging particles would have on your nervous system. And you’ll have some idea of how it feels to be scalped.
Just thinking of good comeback
Joel
Dan Riehl is like a shitty Breitbart knockoff isn’t he?
aimai
@dmsilev: Jeebus. They really do treat the debt ceiling and the budget as some kind of santa’s wish list for evil.
Redshirt
@Woodrowfan: What about the Vikings? That’s pretty well established by now, right? I just love the idea of Vikings mixing it up with Canadian tribes.
Baud
OT: I have mixed feelings about Ed Schultz, but I caught his show today, and he really put it to the rural areas that vote in anti-government teabaggers and are now suffering because the government isn’t open to help them with the recent snowstorm (and no farm bill either). It was impressive.
SiubhanDuinne
@NotMax:
You would have to ask the governors to our west and south.
Woodrowfan
@Mike in NC: the world vile is so inadequate for describing Dan Riehl. Calling him vile is like calling Hurricane Sandy “a bit of a breeze.” And yes, he’s been on Fox before.
raven
@Redshirt: What about the Viqueens?
Mark S.
Riehl might have been the only guy who was dumber than Confederate Yankee back in the day.
hitchhiker
Hmm. That’s exactly my message to people who insist on glorifying the Confederacy. Get over it, you lost.
Difference is, the slave states started a war and were willing to kill lots of people in order to make sure they got to keep their slaves. The natives were wiped out by a tidal wave of immigrants who could not ever get enough land. They got reservations, though — and they got casinos now, too.
So lets all mock them by making them mascots, just like animals. Go Bears! Go Lions! Go Redskins! What could possibly be wrong with that?
chopper
god, i forgot about that blogfight with riehl.
that shit he coughed up about how he isn’t a gay-hater because he had a gay brother that he apparently couldn’t possibly have given less of a shit about was hilarious. “you know why he died alone?” yeah, dan, because you couldn’t have been bothered to give enough of a shit to keep in touch with your sick gay brother. he died alone because you weren’t fucking there for your family.
Redshirt
@raven: Them too. Big helmets with horns.
Violet
Loved reading through that thread. I miss John Cole and his posts on politics. Hell, his posts on pretty much anything. And he even interacted in the comments!
trollhattan
Huh. Well, this Riehl feller would probably improve his good looks with one of these buried in his skull.
http://www.bio.umass.edu/biology/conn.river/misc_images/warcluba.jpg
dmsilev
@aimai: The good news is, we could give them lumps of coal and they’d probably actually like it.
KG
@Woodrowfan: damn, I always wanted that to be true. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if there weren’t a few lost ships that ended up on the western shore.
JPL
This might be an understatement but it does appear that the repubs are gonna kill each other. I’m not a popcorn eater but I might buy some just in case.
Woodrowfan
@Redshirt: Vikings in Greenland yes, certainly. In Minnesota, no. Not until football was invented anyway.
Tragically, the whole Old World diseases were unknown in the New World status was a time-bomb waiting to happen. As soon as somebody developed the technology to cross the oceans regularly the bomb was going to go off. If the Chinese had started cross-Pacific voyages or one of the west African states, or another European power, it would have happened. Heck, if the Aztecs had built ocean-going ships they would have brought back the diseases.
that’s not to say the Europeans were not generally complete pricks once they got here, but the long isolation separating the two hemispheres was a disaster just waiting to happen.
SiubhanDuinne
@WereBear:
I like that old proverb from Lord WereActon: “Shitheads tend to repel, and absolute shitheads repel absolutely.”
Woodrowfan
@KG: sure, a few lost fishing boats now and again. But no regular traffic.
Citizen_X
Who the fuck pissed in his Cheerios? Did he get thrown out if the ca$eeno or something? Or he did just say to himself, “Hmm. I think I’ll be a racist genocide-celebrating fucktard today.”
Or does he tell himself that every day? If so, where can I contribute to the Beatdown Dan Riehl Nightly Fund?
Redshirt
@Woodrowfan: I know they made no lasting impression, other than in some Tribe’s stories of these hideous snow people once upon a time…. but I thought the Vikings made it as far as Maine. In both resource extraction trips, and with small settlements, presumably seasonal, related to fishing and/or clams.
raven
@Citizen_X: Dude’s just a punk, who cares?
SiubhanDuinne
@dmsilev:
Ha ha hardee har har.
Roger Moore
@KG:
There was nothing to stop New World diseases from spreading to the Old World as part of the Colombian exchange, and there’s some reason to think syphilis is one such disease. The big difference is that there were many, many more deadly communicable diseases in the Old World, so the damage went mostly one way.
FWIW, the New World was going to get discovered around 1500 one way or the other. The reason Columbus’s discovery of America was significant is because he was in position to exploit it, and that has to do with technology and organization. Every European country with an Atlantic coast was going exploring around that time, and with ships capable of crossing the Atlantic. Somebody was going to reach America; it was just a matter of who was going to be the first one to find something worth going back for.
scav
@Baud: North Dakota’s got a little oil spill action too mucking up the wheat fields.
Some fortuitous clay layer is supposed to have helped with water qualit.
Peter
@KG:
Yes. Absolutely yes. Oh, some other european fuck would have stumbles across the ‘New’ World, but at least it wouldn’t have been Columbus.
Redshirt
@Citizen_X: Wingnut Logic lesson 101:
1. Someone asked Obama about the Washington Redskins in an interview. He said he’d like to see the team mascot name changed.
2. Thus, defending the name “Redskins” becomes a new Republican Shibboleth.
3. The more extreme Wingnuts now lash out at actual Indians because, Obama.
6. Somewhere in Arizona, an Oracle DBA is beaten up outside a 7/11.
raven
@Roger Moore: Those Chinese ships sure were big.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Zheng_He's_ship_compared_to_Columbus's.jpg
trollhattan
@dmsilev:
There’s a carol for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5DR1oyr4g8
SiubhanDuinne
@Joel:
I’m reporting this to the Department of Redundancy Department.
Aaron Evan Baker
Wotta schmuck!
West of the Rockies
Well, if this guy gets any meaningful backlash from his fellow knuckle-draggers on the right, we’ll no doubt hear a faux apology: “I’m sorry that my obvious attempt at humor was too sophisticated for you gay-loving libtards!”
Wouldn’t it be a kind of hell to be a fairly enlightened teenager with a guy like this for a father? I can’t imagine staring at him across the dinner table and doing anything but feeling very, very sad and confused.
Woodrowfan
@Redshirt: you might be right. That was a great fishing area if I remember right.
Citizen_X
@Woodrowfan:
And definitely in Newfoundland, at l’anse Aux Meadows. (And probably in Labrador, but not with any permanent settlements.)
GxB
Steps up to mike, clears throat, slight momentary feedback gets everyone’s attention, breaks wax seal and unties tight red bow, unfurls parchment, and hold decree aloft…
“Christ… What an Asshole…”
That is all.
trollhattan
@scav:
When does he get the invoice from Exxon-Mobil charging him for all that unearned free oil? Hey, if Monsanto can do it, why not big awhl?
Comrade Dread
Racist douchebag is racist.
Ruckus
@Joel:
How dare you soil the shitty name of Breitbart.
Roger Moore
@raven:
The Chinese ships might have been big and seaworthy, but A) the Pacific is a much bigger ocean to cross than the Atlantic and B) the Chinese government decided to shut down most of their long-range trading in a bout of isolationism just around the time the Europeans were getting going.
Narcissus
@Redshirt: After the Consumer Products Safety Commission banned Buckyballs, magnetic hobby balls became a cause celebre in the right blogosphere. They’re called Liberty balls now.
raven
@Roger Moore: We don’t really know why they shut it down do we? I’ve flown over the Pacific a couple of times, I get that it’s big.
Suffern ACE
So 30 years on, this one wants to relitigate the “Native Americans” debate? Do we just have to walk in circles?
Howard Beale IV
Wonder who he consults in his so-called ‘marketing’ line of work.
Too bad he didn’t vapor lock back last year.
(Apologies for the link.)
Bob
Hey, whatever happened to Cole? Working for ESPN?
Crashman06
@raven: Trouble from the Mongols up north. I think they decided to spend their money expanding the Great Wall instead of sending out the treasure ships.
goblue72
Isn’t Riehl the Brietbart fellator who opposed HCR and then got a serious illness and was hospitalized without health insurance, and the rightwing nutosphere had to go raise money for him.
Unfortunately, it looks like he recovered. I guess the Devil didn’t want him either.
Citizen_X
@raven: Holy cats! Where is that display? I knew the dimensions of the ships, but I could never quite visualize them.
And that’s probably the biggest ship of the fleet (it was Zhong He’s), but they would have hundreds of large junks in the Treasure Fleets.
goblue72
@Bob: Hanging out with his friend Bill W.
the Conster
@Bob:
Ted & Hellen is gone too. Coincidence? It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
Hank
The biggest Chinese expeditions to Africa were larger than the Spanish Armada.
As for the Vikings, it was announced recently that ther was evidence of Viking artifacts on Ellesmere Island.
srv
@Bob: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrNbZPL_nts
Ahh says fywp
@hitchhiker: Dont forget disease. Killed 90% before the wars even started. Actually by the very end it turned into germ warfare (once the vaccine became available–Canada actually physically restrained activists who tried to inoculate PNW peoples).
fuckwit
@Violet: And homophobes too.
Ahh says fywp
@Narcissus: you’ll taje my choking hazard from my cold, dead hands–omg, they totally do to themselves what we only snark about, like Michelle’s mythical ‘Let’s not drink bleach or ride atvs w/out helmets’ campaign.
Florida: where a sheriff died diring a charity school bus race (wasn’t wearing a seat belt)
Lurking Canadian
@KG: Given enough time, the Polynesians probably would have got to Chile. Those guys had some serious game, and they made it all the way to Easter Island as it is.
As regards Riehl: Christ, what an asshole.
Ash Can
Oh yeah, Dan Riehl. He was the racist schmuck who fantasized about beating up black folks on the DC Metro. Real piece of work.
KG
@Roger Moore: true, the Pacific is a larger Ocean to cross, but you could get from China to North America without ever getting to far from land… sail north, across the Bering Strait, and then south. You don’t really have that option coming from Europe.
fuckwit
@Roger Moore: Uh, they did. Um… syphillis, for instance. Was deadly as shit for a while in Europe until the bug evolved to be less deadly so it could spread better (smart things, viruses are). There just were not as many new world diseases because people in the new world didn’t keep pigs (influenza) or cows (smallpox), and also didn’t have quite as much grain (rats -> plague) or live in quite the population density (dysentery, cholera) that Europe did.
The one thing that the natives did do, a lot of, and well, apparently, was fuck, hence they had developed a tolerance to syphillis that the uptight christian europeans didn’t have.
kc
@Violet:
Me too.
Where are you, Cole? Cheating on us with some other blog?
Jamey
Wow, what a mess!
I went back to that 2006 article and put today’s date and the winning Powerball number in the comments thread. If my calculations are correct, I should be $400 million dollars richer. And if this comes to pass, I promise $1 million to every BJ commenter.
Wish me luck!
Signed,
2006 Jamey.
ps: we elected a black guy in 2008? You gotta be shittin’ me!
West of the Rockies
@the Conster:
Is that pinhead gone? I sort of dropped out of BJ for a time because every goddamned thread was getting tainted by that person.
TG Chicago
@chopper: I don’t want to get too deeply into his family situation, but from a pure logic standpoint, that’s stunningly stupid on Riehl’s part. You can’t be homophobic because your brother with whom you had no relationship was gay? Just dumb.
Jamey
I think we should rechristen the Redskins as the “Irish Tans.” (see def. 2)
Surely, a nation in love with Notre Dame football and Boston Celtics basketball would not object.
Anton Sirius
@Redshirt:
Drive director Nic Refn made a movie about it, kinda – Valhalla Rising.
Anton Sirius
The best part about Riehl’s latest fuckery is that, in engaging in the flame war he wanted to incite, he admits that he believes a team nickname like Indians is hate speech.
Riehl’s not just a giant pestilential asshole, he’s a painfully stupid giant pestilential asshole.
West of the Rockies
Breitbart kicks off and up shoots Riehl… There’s always another of these guys waiting for their chance to spew venom for big dollars. There’s always a market for their resentment.
taylormattd
That comment thread is fantastic. Several names from the old spots in the left blogosphere, including a couple of long time kossacks.
Bill D.
@fuckwit:
Syphilis is caused by a bacterium, not a virus. Same principle of natural selection, though.
g
Sore losers. Get over it biatches.
isn’t that how it worked out with the Confederacy?
dollared
@trollhattan: That is awesome. Thanks. Now I get to think about all the people who worked on that, have that project on their resume, sent that link to their friends….
e.a.f.
Who ever Dan Riehl is, I do trust he doesn’t hold public office.
Sore losers? The American government waged a war of genocide on First Nations, that has continued to this day.
In this day and age, people who make these types of comments are usually some what mentally “off”. Is this Dan Riehl a member of the KKK or the American Nazi party or some such group?
With people like Dan Riehl making such comments and then publicizing them, the rest of the world knows why the Americans still are having such racial problems.
e.a.f.
Who ever Dan Riehl is, I do trust he doesn’t hold public office.
Sore losers? The American government waged a war of genocide on First Nations, that has continued to this day.
In this day and age, people who make these types of comments are usually some what mentally “off”. Is this Dan Riehl a member of the KKK or the American Nazi party or some such group?
With people like Dan Riehl making such comments and then publicizing them, the rest of the world knows why the Americans still are having such racial problems.
Trinity
Wow. I just can’t.