Big Apple Shitshow

The Weiner campaign is melting down in a most entertaining way. First, an intern, Olivia Nuzzi, wrote a couple of short pieces at the Daily News and NSFWcorp detailing the not-surprising fact that a lot of Weiner’s staff were trying to get closer to Huma in order to get closer to the Clintons. She also noted that the campaign was disorganized (someone get the smelling salts, a disorganized campaign!) and that Weiner didn’t pay what had been promised.

That’s pretty garden-variety griping, only published because of the Weiner media feeding frenzy. It only got interesting when Weiner’s communications secretary, whose last job was for the New Jersey state education commissioner, said this:

[…] TPM called Weiner’s communications director Barbara Morgan to discuss an unrelated story Tuesday and she went off on a curse-filled rant about Nuzzi, describing her as a fame hungry “bitch” who “sucked” at her job. Morgan also called Nuzzi a “slutbag,” “twat,” and “cunt” while threatening to sue her.

I wonder what Morgan would have said if Nuzzi had said anything interesting, or had accused Weiner of some kind of sexual harassment (which, notably, she didn’t).

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    mai naem says:

    Can Weiner just go away. Has Jon Stewart made any comment about the Weiner situation? For those who don’t know, the two were college roommates. wonder if Weiner was pulling weird stuff(like flashing his dick to coeds) when he was in college?

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    gene108 says:

    Who else is running for mayor of New York?

    From the press reporting it is Wiener and some sort of invisible and unknown foe who cannot be named, because there’s no reporting on the impact of how Wiener’s meltdown is impacting the overall race.

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    Jerzy Russian says:

    I must say that “slutbag” is a new one on me. Kids these days.

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    c u n d gulag says:

    Yes, and this foul-mouthed idiot said she thought her talk with TPM was “off-the-record.”

    What kind of a sh*tty campaign hires a communications secretary who doesn’t have the common sense to assume that whatever is being said to the media, is ON the record?

    Right now, a stiff dose of political V*agra, couldn’t bring life to Wiener’s flaccid campaign.

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    Jay in Oregon says:

    a lot of Weiner’s staff were trying to get closer to Huma in order to get closer to the Clintons

    I wonder if part of the media frenzy, especially the people trashing Huma, is about sandbagging Hillary Clinton. I really, really hate making this about the 2016 election, but if people thought the attacks on Obama were bad in 2008 and 2012, imagine what having Hillary as the Democratic candidate in 2016 will be like.

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    bemused says:

    For a communications director, Morgan is remarkably stupid. Weiner sure knows how to pick them.

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    Anya says:

    I am really sick and tired of the Weiner crap. Please make it stop! I just want him to drop out so that we can avoid Bloomberg’s lackey Christine Quinn. She’s awful. She’s consistently voted against any legislation that’s for working people (minimum wage increase, sick pay), she’s against bike lanes, sold our neighborhood out to developers. I hope we don’t end up with her.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @gene108: On the Democratic side you have Christine Quinn, Bill DeBlasio and maybe one or two others; on the Republican side, you have Joe Lhota, ??? Catsimiditis, and ??? McDonnell. So in September we have two primaries and possibly a run-off or two. (Names maybe spelled wrong, and there are first names but it’s morning, I still need coffee.)

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    Keith G says:

    Tweety’s show has turned into all weener all the time. I didn’t think either one of those two could become more annoying.

    Since the wife seems to have been on this last round of deception, She couldn’t have been that good of a political operative/advisor. I imagine her time in the Clinton inner circle are done. As well it should be.

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    TomG says:

    So I guess Barbara figured that because she’s female she won’t get called out on offensive name-calling of an intern?

    Those terms shouldn’t be used by anyone, not just us guys. Barbara, being a professional implies that you can and should refrain from this high-school level insulting game, even when you are pissed off at somebody.

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    Splitting Image says:

    Living in Toronto as I do, I’m actually rooting for Weenie to win. We’ve been holding onto the “Who’s Got the Stupidest Mayor” trophy for awhile now, so I think it’s time we retired the Rob Ford jokes and opened the field for a promising newcomer.

    On the other hand, if Weenie is craven enough to switch parties, I think we may have a contender for the 2016 Presidential field on our hands. He can audition for the Newt Gingrich spot.

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    beltane says:

    @Jay in Oregon: That’s what crossed my mind after reading Betty Cracker’s post about Sally Quinn’s hate-on-Huma screed yesterday. Only once before have I seen so much focus on the wife of a politician involved in a sex scandal, and that other wife just happened to be Hillary Clinton.

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    Jim C says:

    Is it wrong that I read the headline and wondered, “What has Apple done now to displease mistermix?”

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    Belafon says:

    @Jay in Oregon: I suspect why Morgan went nuts is that no one was supposed to let out that this was about attaching to the 2016 Clinton campaign. Now, rightfully, no one will want them, especially Clinton.

    ETA: I wonder how long it will take for campaign people to figure out that if you weren’t attached to Obama in 2008/2012, you’re not really worth that much?

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    El Caganer says:

    It’s the NYC Summer Sausagefest ’13!

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    geg6 says:

    @Jim C:

    Nope, I did the same. In the vain hope that it wouldn’t be about what it turned out to be about, I guess.



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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Jay in Oregon: The mister was just saying that last night. My view was that while a female presidential candidate would certainly cause (mostly) wingnut hysteria on a massive scale (which we saw in some measure in the runup to 2008), a woman candidate wouldn’t cause as great a level of wingnut panic and rage as a black dude did/does. Hubby disagrees. He may be right.

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    maya says:

    Just another New York Zity strudel. Yawn. Too bad they can’t find another Mayor as colorful as this guy was. Or maybe they did!

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    Elizabelle says:


    Oh yeah.

    I have seen some “Wingnuts in Depends” comments on newspaper sites:

    The Weiner campaign is going to bring down the Hillary Clinton campaign.

    In their fever swamp dreams.

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    gelfling545 says:

    @Betty Cracker: Well, they could mutter about how she’s at least the right color & since she’s clearly post menopausal all their “raging hormones” stuff would be useless. While I think they certainly wouldn’t be pleased to see a female president, the uproar would be, as a relative of mine puts it, “less worse”.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Amazed at Barbara Morgan’s unprofessional behavior.

    It’s inexcusable.

    Although she found the campaign she could fail up to.

    PS: The intern, Olivia Nuzzi, looks just like a Fox News blonde in waiting. Nuzzi does write she’s interned on previous Democratic campaigns.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @Jim C: The keyword that means New York City is “Big” before the Apple. The nickname of NYC is The Big Apple. I don’t know where the name comes from.

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    beltane says:

    @Elizabelle: Barbara Morgan sounds like someone who is better suited to be Sarah Palin’s FB poster/Twitterer than communications manager for a NYC mayoral candidate.

    That early-90’s era New York Magazine piece that gave Anthony Wiener the title of “Most Mediocre City Council Member” sure seems prophetic now except that “mediocre” is beyond his reach at this point.

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    Belafon says:

    @gelfling545: Clinton would be the first female president, but she wouldn’t be the first non-white male candidate. Obama took that “honor”. She’ll have it bad, but there won’t be as much shock. Eventually people get used to something that was once “new.” (Which is why the Republicans are so desperate to restrict voting and repeal Obamacare.)

    We were never going to get as much accomplished with the first non-white male candidate as we would have otherwise. I suspect we’ll get less done with a female president than we would have hoped. But, in both cases, we will accomplish something important: Draw the pus from the wound of white-male privilege. As long as everyone recognizes that this is a valuable goal.

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    cleek says:


    “Wingnuts in Depends”

    i hope they were the special GOP Edition Depends!

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    Gex says:

    Wow, they are really trying to win over ALL the women, huh?

    Those that weren’t turned off by Weiners shenanigans get treated to a round of “cunt” and “twat”. And SHOULD the Weiner campaign be calling ANYONE a slut other than Weiner? I doubt very much that this woman is half the slut Weiner is, if we must consider people who have sex in ways that fundies don’t approve of as “slutty.”

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    joes527 says:

    @Belafon: She might be able to lure Mark Penn back from Microsoft.

    2016: “We’re getting the band back together”

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    Belafon says:

    @Gex: Except, considering how Republicans went after the 14 year old in Texas who was protesting against the new Texas abortion law, you’re a slut if you aren’t Republican.

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    Donut says:


    I think most of the right wing is so out of touch with reality that they will mostly scream about the Clenis and Whitewater and Vince Foster, not realizing that most people took the Clintons’ side in those fights of 20 years past. They have also totally blown their rhetorical wad on Obama. They hav spent the last five years yelping about and thwarting the centrist policies that most people say they want. So I agree with the “less worse” characterization in terms of personal attacks.

    That said, speaking purely to the politicw, I do think a Hillary presidency would cause the GOP to continue to double down on their obstructionist strategy, and I think that is where they could do real damage and where they could get seriously ugly. If enough white and aging voters reward them with seats in congress and the senate, the GOP will continue to try to tear apart the union. Many in the Southern states have never really given up on seceding from the union, or at least diminishing its power to the greatest extent possible. I’m certain, however, that if we have a Democrat in the White House, they’ll continue on this path regardless whether the presidrnt is a Clinton or not. The name and person may make their hate more acute and focused, but it is there no matter what we do.

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    Elizabelle says:


    Extra Odor Control!
    Don’t Let them smell your Fear!

    ETA: so glad to have the coffee cup parked when clicked on your link.

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    TheMightyTrowel says:

    If it makes you feel any better our probably future prime minister (shudder shudder shudder) is actually openly telling the news that a tent city for asylum seekers built on an under resourced island in the indian ocean sounds like a dandy place to spend YEARS waiting for one’s asylum claim to be processed. A close friend of mine is a civil servant – and a really good one, he’s super non-partisan at all times – but this news got him calling Abbot the C word in public (although out of office hours and with a beer in hand).

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    Gex says:

    @Betty Cracker: I think hubby is right. I think the crude phrase “bros before…” applies. Hating on browns, you get the white people only. Hating on women, you get a lot of the brown men too. You get gay guys like Sully, and sadly, you’ll get a lot of women in on that. I mean, just look at the language used in this example. No one would use the equivalent racial slurs. The GOP didn’t even drop the n-bomb in 2008 or 2012, no matter how close they got to doing so.

    @Belafon: Why won’t they just stop obsession about sex already? It is just so pathetic/

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    joes527 says:


    I do think a Hillary another Democratic presidency would cause the GOP to continue to double down on their obstructionist strategy


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    Another Halocene Human says:

    yessss, gutter thread!

    read leathers comments in the Post, actually just transcription of what she said on Howard Stern. (Seems like NYDN gets all the scoops–are they jealous?)

    At least Weiner isn’t some sort of violent, anti-social asshole, but omg the narcissism. DEFINITELY personality disorder level, btw NO therapy will fix that, at least not any that’s available today. In fact psychiatrists won’t even try as they consider NPDs to be malingerers. It was clear when he hired a fucking PI to follow up on a lie he told, but the Leathers claims about his need for ego stroking (=providing narcissistic supply) just puts the cherry on top.

    The drama at campaign HQ is making me lmao–saw that on the top of wonkette today. Going off during a friendly call from a progressive outlet?

    Quinn sucks on transportation so I’m hoping some of Weiner’s support shifts to deBlasio. I care because I feel like they set the tone so much for what is possible in smaller cities. You know, Robert Moses makes 5th avenue a racetrack, your thoroughfares are going to be a racetrack too. NYC rips up all its streetcars and trackless, you’re stuck with asthma-mobiles in your hoods too. NYC has a hipster-bike-splosion, you’ve got aspirational bike-coffee-art space-scene spaces on every street corner too.

    Quinn proposed a bone-headed BRT line that displays her utter lack of engagement in transit and streets issues and guess what… we have a nutty pol here trying to push a BRT nobody asked for that goes nowhere. Hoping Bloomberg II goes down.

    Ha ha, I love that Leathers said she had too much respect to f*** Obama, unlike most Wonkette posters, fa fa, and then suggested she would totally do Huma. Now that was my happy thought for the day.

    I guess I’m a terrible person but I am loving this stupid scandal way too much.

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    The Moar You Know says:

    Everyone involved is going to get what they deserve.

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    handsmile says:

    Via TPMLiveWire, Politico is reporting (caveat lector):

    “Huma Abedin to Take Extended Break from Hillary Clinton”


    Should that report prove true, it suggests some damage control efforts (distancing) on the part of the incipient HRC campaign, dashing the hopes of operatives and interns like Olivia Nuzzi that working on Weiner’s hopeless mayoral bid, i.e., sucking up to Amedin, would burnish their credentials.

    William Thompson, current NYC mayoral candidate (polling second) and former City Comptroller was being treated tenderly during his appearance on “Morning Joe” today. To those who regularly tune into Joe’s frat party, has front-running Democratic candidate (and NYC City Council chair) Christine Quinn made an appearance there in recent weeks?


    Fully agree with you on Quinn; didn’t realize you lived in the urban hellhole.

    I’m supporting Bill de Blasio, NYC Public Advocate, in the Democratic mayoral primary. Sadly, he’s got no chance, but he’s certainly the most progressive candidate.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    Oh lordy, missed the best part–the interns joined the campaign to curry favor with Abedin … oh hohoho



    the irony is that all this unearned attention probably fed his narcissism to epic proportions. Is it too much to ask for a Perry-esque admission of “Oops” from the Clintonites?

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    Shakezula says:

    “She sucked. She, like, wasn’t good at setting up events. She was clearly there because she wanted to be seen. Like it was, like, terrible and I had to like – she would like, she would just not show up for work.”

    Yes, she is incredibly gross and idiotic and needs to be fired. I like, question not just her competence, but, like, her BAC.

    But what will be interesting is whether we’ll see another round of “What’s wrong with the women around Weiner? They’re destroying the complete equality women are currently enjoying!” and huffing upon the sal volatile.

    (Shrieking from the GOP that Democrats are the real sexists is a given.)

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Jay in Oregon: I think it’s because a lot of the national news media is based in New York. A lot of the reporting/revelations started with New York sources and outlets but were quickly picked up by the nationals because their desks are located right there.

    Weiner has a national profiile b/c of his tenure in Congress as a dude who got on TV a lot… plus the story is funny.

    I think Filner would have gotten more press had he been mayor of LA rather than San Diego, however, it’s also kind of a depressing story and the Weiner thing is lighthearted silliness. I mean, come on, a press conference over a sign that reads “WEINER MAYOR”? (I thought he was more Hebrew National–?)

    The Clinton connection is why Villagers like MoDo, Sally Quinn, etc feel the need to share their most pressing thoughts on the matter. Puke.

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    mai naem says:

    I personally don’t think Huma knew about the post-initial scandal texting, or at least not the extent of it. SHESK

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @bemused: For a communications director, Morgan is remarkably stupid. Weiner sure knows how to pick them.

    Narcissists make shit supervisors. I know of which I speak.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Jay in Oregon:

    Given the undying hatred of the Clintons that seems to still motivate the foul Quinn harridan, the anti-Huma screed the other day by aforementioned harridan makes sense.

    Other commentors have caught the riff, it seems.

    Quinn so needs a tumbrel ride. She’s fucking screaming for one.

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    The Dangerman says:

    @Jay in Oregon:

    …imagine what having Hillary as the Democratic candidate in 2016 will be like.

    Benghazi, 24/7.

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    ruemara says:

    I have no idea where this idea is coming from that the GOP is going easier on Obama than they would on Hillary because at least Obama is man. That’s giving me more of an eyeroll than the moron of communications in the Weiner campaign. You’re wrong, you’re very wrong but it’s a moot point since this is just opinions all around.

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    Another Halocene Human says:


    That early-90′s era New York Magazine piece that gave Anthony Wiener the title of “Most Mediocre City Council Member” sure seems prophetic now except that “mediocre” is beyond his reach at this point.

    Can this be found online?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    We’re dealing with some pretty classy pols/handlers here. Are there trailer parks in New York City that need oversight?

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @ruemara: Almost nobody thought they would go as unhinged on Obama as they did (although a lot of us thought Obama was going to get shot before he ever served a day in office). As far as a female Dem national candidate goes, I’m not hopeful.

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    Mandalay says:


    Wow, they are really trying to win over ALL the women, huh?

    A couple of aspects of this that are getting overlooked:
    – Morgan also publicly threatened the intern (“see if you ever get a job in this town again”).
    – Weiner didn’t fire Morgan after she had her meltdown. Apparently Morgan’s actions did not rise to the level of dismissal, which speaks volumes about Weiner.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:


    One thing that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have in common is that they are Democrats.

    They are, by Rethug standards, usurpers, illegitimate, unfit to sit in the sainted Ronaldus Magnus’ Oval Office. They are to be obstructed at every turn as they are usurpers.

    The GOP has moved off the rails and insist that steamships are land vehicles. They are not sane.

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    Shakezula says:

    @ruemara: Agreed. It is also edging towards the “Who has it worse?” debate which is always a good way to waste a few million hours.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:


    Weiner was too busy composing low grade Penthouse letter material to be sent to a 19 year old freshman at the University of Iowa to deal with the communications director situation.

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    Belafon says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: The racism and sexism is a weapon in the Republican arsenal. They have worked for a long time, and they will continue to use them as long as they think they are effective. We must deal with the racism and sexism, but their attacks won’t stop because, as you said, the real target is that their opponents are Democrats.

    I’ll give the Republicans this: They aren’t trying to restrict voting because the people are minorities, because they wouldn’t be going after college students if they were. No, they are doing this to prevent Democrats from being elected.

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    beltane says:

    @Another Halocene Human: I’m going to try to find it (I was a subscriber in those days). The only reason I remember it at all is that my boyfriend at the time’s mother lived in Weiner’s district, and the boyfriend used to claim that any “retard” with a Jewish last name could get elected to office there. Being that he himself was Jewish, he threatened to run for office just to prove his theory correct, but he never followed through with this.

    I left NYC in 1997 and was kind of surprised to see Weiner appear as a progressive hero many years later.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    That Barbara Morgan is still in her job after such an outburst suggests that Weiner lacks the moral authority to sack people for egregious stupidity. That must count heavily against a candidate for mayor.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:


    I left NYC in 1997 and was kind of surprised to see Weiner appear as a progressive hero many years later.

    Yep, Jane had a firebagger meeting (with a dog around a fire next to a lake, natch) and we elected Wiener as The Honorary One True Progressive. This was shortly after he disagreed very publicly with the Obama administration about something. Because of this shortsighted decision, we now own all of his dickish behavior.

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    Mandalay says:

    @Jay in Oregon:

    imagine what having Hillary as the Democratic candidate in 2016 will be like

    I already have. It involves the spawn of satan crawling out of the woodwork: Mark Penn, James Carville and Lanny Davis.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @beltane: I’m very impressed by the speed of the Google spiders, as entering “new york magazine weiner most mediocre city council” as a search term brings up your 9:44 am post as its first hit.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Mandalay: What the hell is wrong with Carville? (Other than his sick and twisted sexual inclinations that force him to breed with Mary Matalin?)

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    @Just Some Fuckhead: Did you all dance around the fire and then sacrifice an Obot?

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    Villago Delenda Est says:


    Any Democrat who hires James Carville is too stupid to be elected dogcatcher, because Carville quite literally sleeps with the enemy. He’s married to an apprentice of the Dark Lord himself.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Did you all dance around the fire and then sacrifice an Obot?

    No, Jane said not to mess with the help.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Carville shares inside information with his vile bed partner, who then passes it on to Voldemort.

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    @Villago Delenda Est: They both look Disney villains (Matlin and Carville). Speaking of more pleasant topics, I made the first page of ICHC/Lolcats this morning.

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    handsmile says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Hey, some of us are trying to have an adult conversation here about the New York City mayoral race. We don’t need foreign agitators like you bringing up Weiner’s sack.

    Completely O/T (apologies, but something I’ve been meaning to write to you and BGinChi): if Arsenal is successful in prying away the criminal Luis Suarez from your beloved Liverpool, that will be the last straw for this (already) deeply disaffected Gunners fan.

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    Belafon says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: And how do you know this? I get this odd feeling that very little politics is talked about at that house, for the sanity of the children. The shouting matches would get really loud otherwise.

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    beltane says:

    @Gin & Tonic: @Gin & Tonic: Really? I can’t find it anywhere except for my post here. I’m going to request that my post be removed until I can locate the actually piece. It was contained in one of those “10 worst” of things in lots of different categories.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Jerzy Russian: My second-favorite blog, Language Log, is on this: (sorry, editing/linking/etc. don’t work in IE9 here)

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    Villago Delenda Est says:


    It was reported in 2004 that Carville shared information on Kerry’s intentions re: Ohio recount with Matalin, who then passed it on to her vile master.

    Carville is unmitigated scum.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Belafon: They have children? Ewww.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: So that’s how Voldemort found out about the best catfish joint in Arkansas.

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    Mandalay says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    What the hell is wrong with Carville?

    This would be a good starting point:

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    beltane says:

    This Salon piece is getting me closer to the time period in question: I’ll try to do a search of all stories written about him from 1991-1995 or so.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Mandalay: She’s ‘riding for the team’.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: That’s a pretty big ‘other’, IMO.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @handsmile: Used to like Arsenal, till I found out who the owner was. I know that the ownership is not your fault.

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    Anybodybuther2016 says:

    I imagine her time in the Clinton inner circle are done. As well it should be.

    Why would you think that? Birds of a feather flock together. Oh and this one of the many reasons she will never be president.

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    mai naem says:

    Carville/Matalin also have ugly ass taste in interior design:

    Also too, she’s had some bad plastic surgery done.

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    Belafon says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: Thanks for the info.

    @Mandalay: Choosing any one of them would definitely be a sign of poor decision making. I would hope that the only place these three turn up would be CNN.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Paul in KY: I have a sorta ironclad rule that what consenting adults do in the recesses of their vile dungeons is out of the bounds of politics.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    It doesn’t help The Biter that Real Madrid decided not to come in for him. And the Arse* have made it clear that forty million and one pounds is as high as they’ll go for Luis. I like the “and one” — nice comedy touch. So do ‘Pool, who have responded to the Arsenal bid with appreciative laughter.

    *You don’t like me mentioning Weiner’s sack? Well, suck on this! Grrr.

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    @Amir Khalid: Are you fasting for the month?

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    Shakezula says:

    @mai naem: Without clicking on the link I can visualize the unending Nightmare in Pink that is the Matlin/Carville home.

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    beltane says:

    @mai naem: Are you referring to the Pepto Bismal pink room? I saw that article while waiting in the dentist’s office and it was a far more unpleasant experience than getting a filling.

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    different-church-lady says:

    @Jerzy Russian: I know. I mean, how many sluts could you fit in a single bag without it bursting open. I’d think only two or three at the most. Unless we’re talking about one of those construction waste bags you get at Home Depot. In which case the sluts would just get out the top.

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    Anybodybuther2016 says:

    Give weenie a break, at least he didn’t stick a cigar tube in some 22 year old interns vagina.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    No tumbrel for Sally Quinn just yet.

    She’s got to finish her memoirs first.

    “Washington is a spiritual hardship post,” [Sally Quinn] said in a statement, “and I have been privileged to observe it up close for at least half a century.”

    From today’s WaPost gossip column, “The Reliable Source.” (which also informs us Psy may have a drinking problem, gangnam style.)

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    Mandalay says:

    @Keith G:

    I imagine her time in the Clinton inner circle are done. As well it should be.

    But…but…..Bill Clinton sees her as a second daughter!!!…

    Former President Clinton officiated at Abedin’s 2010 wedding to Weiner. At the time, former Secretary of State Clinton said: “I have one daughter. But if I had a second daughter, it would (be) Huma.

    What kind of weirdo nominates a woman getting married as their second daughter? That phony, creepy, patronizing line will come back to haunt Hilary if she chooses to run.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    Yes, of course.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @mai naem:

    Not sure that link worked.

    Here’s another Architectural Digest photo of the Carville-Matalin room.

    Conveniently, the designer’s name is “Yeck”, exactly the reaction I had to his work.

    ETA: my link didn’t work either. Just follow it to ADigest and type James Carville in the search function. You’ll get to see Bob Woodward and President and Mrs. McCain decor too.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Alas, this link is borked too.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    Maybe the link isn’t broken; maybe the dipshit who runs the server bounces referral links it doesn’t like. Maybe the client is an ass. “No page for you!”

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    @Amir Khalid: I lubs me some Ramadan feasts. Do you guys make biryani in Malaysia?

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    handsmile says:

    @Paul in KY:

    Loathing a club because of its owner(s) (e.g., Chelsea, AC Milan, NY Jets) seems to me a perfectly legitimate exercise of any sportsfan’s prerogative. Certainly most Liverpudians made known long and lustily their utter disgust with American business owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks when they were ransacking the club.

    Among that rogues’ gallery, Arsenal’s principals Stan Kroenke and Alishere Usmanov have always struck me as rather milquetoast. (Though this Guardian article from July 2012 cannily describes how their mutual contempt has adversely affected the club’s performance: ). For me at least, there are so many other reasons to rail (futilely) at Arsenal.

    @Amir Khalid:

    As far as I’m concerned, these days “Arse” is the polite term.

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    beltane says:

    New York Magazine’s archive only goes back to 1998. The article about Weiner I was referring to is probably from 1994 when he received a tremendous amount of ridicule for his flip-flopping on an important vote regarding rent stabilization.

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    bemused says:

    @Another Halocene Human:

    Birds of a feather and all that.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    ETA: my link didn’t work either. Just follow it to ADigest and type James Carville in the search function. You’ll get to see Bob Woodward and President and Mrs. McCain decor too.

    ADigest has a feature on “Politicos” that has most of the tumbrel class represented. Even someone praising Bob Woodward as “imaginative”, this well before the greater world twigged just how so.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    Yes we do, and there are many styles of biryani to be had here in KL.

    There was plenty of reason to loathe Gillett and Hicks. Not least among them was that they hamstrung Rafa Benitez and then drove him away when he had the team and the fans solidly behind him.

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    @Amir Khalid: The Ramadan feast I went to had the best biryani I ever tasted and kheer.

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    Marc says:

    @Belafon: I’ve been wondering about this too, albeit in terms of voting. We all know that Obama lost some votes (by all accounts up to a couple percent of the national vote) because of racism. We all know that Clinton, if she’s the nominee, will almost certainly lose some because of sexism.

    But I’m wondering… to what extent are those the same votes? Aren’t most of the people who wouldn’t vote for Clinton because of sexism the same people who wouldn’t vote for Obama because of racism? Hasn’t the GOP pretty much already locked down the white male privilege vote? And wouldn’t the Obama voters Clinton does lose to sexism be more than balanced by whites, especially white women, who would vote for Clinton but not Obama?

    In short, I wonder if Obama’s 2012 vote is a floor for the next Democratic candidate.

    (Assuming the candidate can re-create his voter turnout effort, which is a big assumption… and assuming they can match his appeal to Latinos, which the GOP is doing its best to make a very safe assumption.)

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    Amir Khalid says:

    And now, Manchester City too …

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: How quaint ;-)

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Mandalay: I’m guessing that comment (yours) was tongue-in-cheek?

    I thought it (Mrs. Clinton’s) was a very nice comment.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @Paul in KY: Maybe. But I’m a Thought Leader so it is possible I can infuse my quaint notions into a not insubstantial number of people and thereby help to change the paradigm.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @handsmile: It’s Stan Kroenrke (or Mr. Walmart Heiress). Never heard of the other dude.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: You certainly are a Thought Leader. Best wishes!

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    Mandalay says:

    @Paul in KY:

    I’m guessing that comment (yours) was tongue-in-cheek?

    No, not at all. Why would she make any claim about Abedin Huma being her second daughter? Entirely inappropriate given that they have a professional relationship, and it was on Abedin’s wedding day FFS.

    Maybe the comment made sense if you were at the wedding, but if anyone else claimed to view my daughters as theirs I’d want to biff them on the nose. And now Abedin is taking an “extended break” from Hilary Clinton? A fine way to treat your “daughter”.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Mandalay: I think their relationship (at time comment was made) was probably a bit more than professional.

    It’s a compliment, FCS: I (older person whom you like/admire) say that I feel you have all the qualities that would make me so proud to have you as my daughter’. I can imagine people being happy/flattered by that.

    Maybe Ms. Abedin is the one who insisted the break be made? Who knows?

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    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism says:

    @Elizabelle: That one didn’t work, either.

    I tinyurl’d this in case it’s something FYWP is doing to the links. Architectural Digest: Politicos

    @Another Halocene Human: No, the link was incomplete. Missing 10 or so characters off the end.

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    Larv says:

    @Amir Khalid: Personally, I think it suggests that they don’t think they could get anybody more competent to replace her at this point. You’d have to be some kind of masochist to sign on as Communications Director at this point of his campaign’s implosion.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Or it could be both. Weak leadership and organisational dysfunction reinforcing each other, showing that Weiner doesn’t have what it takes to run New York City.

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