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    Violet says:

    Anyone in Texas who wants to rally against the restrictive forced-birth bill the Republicans want to pass, there’s a big rally on Monday at noon at the Capitol. Here’s where you can find info:
    Juanita Jean’s has info on protests at the state capitol on Monday.
    Here’s the Facebook page for the rally on Monday — High noon on the south steps of the Capitol.
    Official Stand with Texas Women Facebook page.

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    Yatsuno says:

    Almost on my way to go get free Ethiopian fuds. Then hopefully tomorrow I start arranging to move. Figured out about six months ago I need outta this damn condo. Their rules suck.

    @Violet: I wonder how Goodhair is gonna cheat this time to get his bebeh protection bill passed. I think it’s total crap he’s calling another session just for this. But at least it has to go through all the hoops again.

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    scav says:

    whatever [wɒtˈɛvə wət-]

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    👽 Martin says:

    Indianapolis Colts safety Joe Lefeged was arrested early Saturday in Washington on five charges, including carrying a firearm without a license, a DC Metro police spokesman told CNN.

    At what point does the NFL shut down because all of the players are incarcerated?

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    Violet says:

    @👽 Martin: Never. Always more players where those came from.

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    Yatsuno says:

    @Violet: Remember the scab season? Good times…

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    pat says:

    Has anyone else seen the Newsweek cover. Big story, “Barack has to go!” (or words to that effect) by…

    Niall Ferguson.

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    scav says:

    @👽 Martin: The Leavenworth v Supermax games will be good though. Slight problem about uniform colors. AZ at least stands out in the sea of oranges and stripes.

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    Violet says:

    @Yatsuno: I have no idea how they’ll get it passed, except I don’t think someone can filibuster for 30 days. It’s good to know that the Republicans are so concerned about spending money that they’ll call this special session that costs the taxpayers a lot of money to run.

    The Tea Party will be in attendance starting on Monday as well. They claim they’ll be like Gandhi:

    We practice Gandhi-style tactics here folks; IRON-CLAD self-discipline, PEACEFUL, CALM, INSISTENT! Let the other side show their lunacy. Come informed about the bill; read it over the weekend.

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    Gex says:

    Procedure yesterday to remove the cancer/pre-cancer. Biopsy determining which it is should be back in a week. I’m either done with treatments for a while or I will be referred to an oncologist. I feel like it’s more likely that I am done with treatments for a while.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Yatsuno:

    Figured out about six months ago I need outta this damn condo. Their rules suck.

    You gonna’ move locally even with the prospect of relocation? Or is that off the table?
    We may move closer to DC, assuming the kids and (now 8/9 of a) grandchild stay there, when I retire in two years. Otherwise they’re going to take us out of this house in boxes. Too old for moving, too much shit.

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    Violet says:

    @Yatsuno: Was that the refs this past season? Or another season with scab players?

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    Belafon (formerly anonevent) says:

    @pat: Obviously, Obama should not run for reelection. He would have no chance of winning.

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    pokeyblow says:

    Bobby Blue Bland was a great singer, but remember… if he and those like him had remained other people’s property, Paula Deen’s great-great-uncle/great-grandfather (yes, both, or whatever) would still be alive today.

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    Suzanne says:

    Kitteh update: she seems to be doing a little better today. She is turning her head and focusing her eyes more in response to sound and light, and she looks more alert. She is eating and drinking a bit more today. Still laying in the box on the bathroom counter, but she tried to stand up. She is also fighting the medicine more and more.

    Thanks to the the BJ community for the support. Not everyone understands how hard it can be when one of our furry family members is having a rough time of it. This has been a big stressor in a week full of them.

    I love Vicodin.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    At Canada Day in Central Park waiting for something to happen. Anything. Come on Canada…impress me.

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    pat says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    I admit I didn’t look at it after seeing the headline and the author. Sent by a wingnut neighbor in my emai. Yuck.

    So I’m not sure WHERE he should be going……

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    Violet says:

    @Gex: I didn’t know anything cancer-related had been found, let alone that you’d been in for a biopsy. Sorry to hear you had to deal with that, especially given everything you’ve been through recently. Fingers crossed you are correct and this is the end of the treatment for now.

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    Suzanne says:

    @Gex: Hugs and best wishes. I’ll be sending anti-cancer thought rays in your direction all week.

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    cleek says:

    Pixies have a new song out.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent): You disgust me. Already pre-quitting on a triumphal 3rd term?
    That’s when all the real liberal shit gets done.

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    Violet says:

    @efgoldman:

    Otherwise they’re going to take us out of this house in boxes. Too old for moving, too much shit.

    PLEASE do not do this to your kids/grandkids/younger family members who love you. Some family friends are dealing with this right now. He doesn’t want to move. She has Alzheimer’s. The kids live in a different city. They are tearing their hair out trying to figure out how to manage the situation and their dad is so stubborn he’s making it impossible for their mom to get the care they need.

    Make the decision to move or downsize or get in a position where you can get the help you need before you need it. Just-in-time moving with the elderly is so hard on everyone involved.

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    Violet says:

    @Suzanne: So glad to hear your kitty has improved! Fingers crossed she continues to improve and the worst is over.

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    Violet says:

    @efgoldman: Oh, I didn’t know about that one. Thanks.

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    Gex says:

    @Violet: Yeah, I don’t come here much anymore. The advantage I have is that I have always been good at getting checked, everything here is super early, and even if I do end up being referred to an oncologist, I still have a very good prognosis.

    Makes me want to send Planned Parenthood more money. I think I will.

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    Baud says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    Obama ignored the constitutional requirement of natural born citizenship, why not ignore the one limiting presidents to two terms?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Violet:

    I have no idea how they’ll get it passed, except I don’t think someone can filibuster for 30 days. It’s good to know that the Republicans are so concerned about spending money that they’ll call this special session that costs the taxpayers a lot of money to run.

    It will pass, and it will be celebrated.

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    pokeyblow says:

    @Violet: I don’t want to attack you, and I sure don’t want to defend efgoldman, but I don’t understand what you mean.

    Are you saying old people, irrespective of health and circumstances, should shrink their lives to a point which is convenient for their heirs/families, because that is what is convenient for their families?

    I can understand that happening in a situation with healthy communications all around, but what you wrote sounded like it would just make old people feel guilty for living their life as they see fit.

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    Steeplejack says:

    Getting ready to leave in a bit for a “DOMA DOA” barbecue at the bro’ man’s house. Will help teh gays drink, eat ribs and pulled pork and generally celebrate. Also: there will be foreigners there, mostly Brazilian, possibly even a few illegal aliens. I live on the edge.

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    pat says:

    Hmm, now I’m curious. Think I’ll gird my loins and go into my trash box and see if there is a clue why Niall thinks Obama has done enough already or not enough or the wrong stuff… Take your pick.

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    Violet says:

    @Gex: Sounds like a good plan. Glad it’s all very early in the process–always the best time to catch it.

    I’m sorry you’re not around more. You’ve been missed. I’ve been wondering how you’re doing. I know you had some difficult moments here in some threads, but a lot of people do care about you, so please stop by and visit when you can.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Baud:
    But that constitutional requirement doesn’t apply to Democratic presidents, does it? I mean, Franklin Roosevelt won four elections, right?

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    scav says:

    Forget the New Yorker, wait until they see the images and objects in a guide at the British Museum. Some might want to stop before halfway down, others might skip everything else.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @pat: yahoo summarizes it as “build the keystone pipeline or the Chinese will Win.” Frankly, I think we lost when Harvard gave tenure to ferguson. But I am willing to build that on the graves of his family.

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    efgoldman says:

    @pat:

    Think I’ll gird my loins and go into my trash box and see if there is a clue why Niall thinks Obama has done enough already or not enough or the wrong stuff

    Wasn’t that issue a year or so ago, while Newsweek was still a dead-tree entity?

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    pat says:

    Finally, Matt Patterson and Newsweek speak out about Obama. This is timely and tough. As many of you know, Newsweek has a reputation for being extremely liberal. The fact that their editor saw fit to print the following article about Obama and the one that appears in the latest Newsweek, makes this a truly amazing event, and a news story in and of itself. At last, the truth about our President and his agenda are starting to trickle through the “protective wall” built around him by the liberal media.

    OK, this is the explanation for what’s going on in the EXTREMELUY LIBERAL Newsweek. Evidently there is an article by Ferguson and an opinion piece by this Matt person.

    I lol’d.

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    I am not a kook says:

    @pat: Grampa, what’s a “Newsweek cover”?

    I guess I’ll have to look for it next time I go to the eye doctor so I can peer at it from an inch away. My dentist subscribes to higher class of magazines: travel mags for people who would like to be rich enough to travel to Tahiti etc at leisure.

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    Baud says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    He’d probably still be president is he hadn’t died.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Steeplejack:

    and pulled pork and generally celebrate.

    After the overly lengthy and incredibly boring discussion about the Muppets, I have to say this now sounds perverted.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    But that constitutional requirement doesn’t apply to Democratic presidents, does it? I mean, Franklin Roosevelt won four elections, right?

    For a guy that lives halfway around the world, you have an excellent grasp of US Constitutional government.
    After all, our Supreme Court believes any amendments after the tenth are only conditionally operational (especially the obviously un-Constitutional 14th and 15th), so why shouldn’t the 22nd be?

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    Violet says:

    @pokeyblow: No, what I’m saying is that a lot of older folks end up staying in their homes past the point where they can manage effectively. Their kids don’t always live close and aren’t fully aware of what’s happening. Many times the elderly aren’t doing well and then something happens–health emergency, etc.–and suddenly they have to move NOW. That kind of situation is very hard on everyone involved–especially the elderly individuals. This is not only about the convenience of the families, but the health and happiness of the older people involved.

    I’m not saying that everyone needs to do one thing, but everyone needs to be aware of where they are in life and have plans as to what they are going to do as they age and make sure their younger loved ones (kids, grandkids, whoever) are aware of the plans and part of the planning.

    When the older person makes the decision themselves to move, it’s much easier on them than if they get forced into it by a health emergency or some other situation. So making those plans yourself instead of saying “I’m going out of here in a box” is much better for everyone involved.

    You may not get to go out of your home in a box. You may go out in an ambulance, go to a hospital, into whatever nursing home situation is available at the time, and none of that is your choice. This just happened to the Great Aunt of a friend of mine and it was dire for her and for all the family involved.

    So no, not EVERY elderly person needs to downsize and move. But everyone should be aware of where they are in life and have some plans in place. Aging in place is also a choice, but plans need to be made to accommodate the aging person–rails put into the walls of the home, transportation set up, food delivery, etc.

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    Baud says:

    @efgoldman:

    Amir Khalid 2016

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    efgoldman says:

    @Baud:

    Amir Khalid 2016

    He may not meet the Constitutional requirements. De we know for a fact that he’s over 35?

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    Haha you guys act like since gays can marry in some states now, we can finally ignore the NSA story! I am impressed that people here haven’t seized on the GG hit pieces that are out in the media. I know you guys have enough hate for him as it is, without salacious porn details.

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    NickT says:

    @Suzanne:

    I love Vicodin.

    You are the real Doctor House and I claim my $500.

    Glad that the kitteh is doing better. Xiaomao wansui!

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    So, has Edward Snowden shot himself in the balls? Have you done so? If not, why are you such a hypocrite?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    Thank you for emphasizing for us once again that civil liberties proponents don’t give a shit about civil rights.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @efgoldman:
    I’ll be 52 in less than three weeks, so my age will not be a problem. Unfortunately, I was born not in the USA, but in Malaya. Still, I hear there are ways around that, if a foreign-born person wants the Oval Office badly enough.

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    pokeyblow says:

    @Mnemosyne: Says the “muse of memory” who jarringly likes “looking forward, not backward.”

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    efgoldman says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Still, I hear there are ways around that, if a foreign-born person wants the Oval Office badly enough.

    You had better get that phony Hawaiian birth certificate ginned up pretty soon if you want to run in this next cycle.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    Also, since I’ve gotten in my RDA of troll-taunting, I’m having a pajama day today, though it’s being slightly overshadowed by the fact that I have some housework that has to be done or we won’t have dishes to eat on. And, given that I’m a worse slob than most frat boys, the fact that I can see there’s a housework problem is saying a whole lot about how bad it really it.

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    NickT says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    I see how you brought in Calgary Cruz there. You devious middle-aged Malaysian person you!

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    Baud says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Good enough for me. I’m forming the Friends of Khalid SuperPAC.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @pokeyblow:

    Sorry, I’ve reached my limit of troll-taunting for the day. Check back with me tomorrow.

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    Emma says:

    @Gex: Many good thoughts. Are they doing genetic testing? They did it for me (second time around on the breast cancer carrousel) and it turned out to be estrogen-positive and slow-growing. So it’s Femara rather than radiation.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Baud:

    Good enough for me. I’m forming the Friends of Khalid SuperPAC.

    Where’s the url? The donate button? Do you accept Nigerian Treasury bonds?

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    pokeyblow says:

    @Mnemosyne: The image of you in pajamas isn’t taunting. It is mental torture.

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    Baud says:

    @efgoldman:

    We only accept bitcoins.

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    NickT says:

    @Baud:

    Do you refuse all unbitten coins on principle?

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    Haydnseek says:

    @Socoolsofresh: Yeah, genius. That’s exactly why the NSA story has fallen off the radar. It’s a complete nothingburger, but the real story is criticism of GG. Your mention of his name in connection with “salacious porn detailsl” tells me all I neet to know about you. Didn’t know about the porn stuff before your post. I’m sure you find it very*cough*stimulating*cough.* ETA-He’s not worthy of our hate.

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    jamick6000 says:

    hi doug and all. You might have seen this already (it’s old) but here’s a great review by John Dolan of Bobos in Paradise.

    Reading Bobos in Paradise, I realized that it’s not so hard to make money by writing: all you have to do is suck and swallow several million people at once. It’s certainly worked for David Brooks, who sucks like a Black Hole, and could give Linda Lovelace swallowing lessons. He’s making a fortune from this book, which is nothing more than fellatio in print.

    Of course, hard-working prostitutes from Night Flight to Tijuana trailer parks are performing the same service for petty cash—but that’s because they can only service one client at a time, while Brooks, with this book, has found a way to suck off every Boomer in America at once. Brooks’ message is simple: “Oh, you’re tho wunnaful. Oh, pleathe, more. Deepuh. Oh yeth, yeth. Let me gobble it all up.” It’s a little garbled—you can’t expect the man to enunciate perfectly with thirty million cocks in his mouth—but the thesis is clear enough: the “Bobos” (Brooks’ witty abbreviation for “bourgeois bohemians”) who control America are the most wonderful people ever.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Violet:

    The Ghandi-style photo at the bottom of the linked article is worth a click all by itself. The article full of comedy gold is a bonus.

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    Violet says:

    @Baud: My bitcoins are in the mail!

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    Mike in NC says:

    We’re in rural central Virginia for a wedding. At one point we came upon a very large ranch/horse farm. The gate was flanked by two big banners: one a giant 2012 “Romney/Ryan” lawn flag, and the other a huge “Sportsmen for Allen” sign. Must be home to one of those disgruntled top 1%ers who just know that the election was stolen.

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    NickT says:

    @Mike in NC:

    Really, they might as well put up a banner saying “White fool with small penis live here!”

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    cckids says:

    Returning to yesterday’s weather thread: it is so, so, SO hot here in Vegas. 105 at 9:30 this morning. Headed towards 118-120 now, and it is only exacerbated by all the concrete walls around us.

    I put some clothes out on the line to dry & almost expect them to go up in flames.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    You should be happy that we’ve chosen to go easy on Greenwald. He has earned far more hatred that he gets here.

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    Baud says:

    @Violet:

    Awesome. Make your bitcoins out to FOK PAC. Let’s go FOKers!

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    Violet says:

    @cckids: It’s 104 where I am. That’s hot for us. Apparently we might get some sort of a cool front tonight or tomorrow or something. No idea if that’s going to happen. I can’t imagine 120. Does your phone work at that temperature?

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    Violet says:

    @Baud: Excellent! FOKers for the win!

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    eric says:

    I am doing my time for the month. those of you that know what that means, it is not pretty. ugh

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    NickT says:

    @burnspbesq:

    It’s probably hard to stay focused after shooting yourself in the balls as the Snowden-Greenwald jihadis do every day. Still, if their bizarre little rituals make them happy….

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Thank you for emphasizing for us once again that civil liberties proponents only don’t give a shit about their own civil rights.

    Redlined for ya.

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    NickT says:

    @Baud:

    How about Friends Of Khalid United? FOKU-PAC has a certain ring to it.

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    Dolly Llama says:

    @efgoldman: From Violet at #41:

    Many times the elderly aren’t doing well and then something happens–health emergency, etc.–and suddenly they have to move NOW.

    Damn, dude. They’re talking about you like you’re just decrepit as hell. You gonna take that shit?

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    burnspbesq says:

    @eric:

    I am feeling your pain. I have to do mine tomorrow, and then send out bills. Fortunately, I’m only two weeks behind, and I have it written down in my notes.

    My bigger problem is that I’m four months behind on inputting revenue and expenses to QuickBooks. That is going to be a doubleplusunfun day.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @NickT:
    The word “United” is not acceptable, sorry. I’m a Liverpool fan.

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    Violet says:

    @Amir Khalid: Ha. That made me laugh. So do you think of the Citizens United decision as the Citizens Fuck You I’m a Liverpool Fan decision?

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Do you speak Malay with a Scouse accent?

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    scav says:

    @Amir Khalid: Friends of Khalid Unleashed perhaps?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @cckids:

    It’s apparently 101 degrees here in the San Fernando Valley right now. This is why I have the AC running. Not super unusual for this time of year since it’s almost July, but still not much fun.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @burnspbesq:
    Not anymore. It sounded terrible.

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    Baud says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    We need to start moderating your positions, AK. Can’t afford to piss off potential donors.

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    burnspbesq says:

    The Mets are 9-5 in their last 14 games. They have overrun Suck, and are advancing rapidly on Mediocre.

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    NickT says:

    @scav:

    Friends Of Khalid Unchained. We can ask Tarantino to be our patron.

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    NickT says:

    @Baud:

    Plus, Liverpool are seriously crap these days.

    Just sayin’.

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    👽 Martin says:

    Thankfully only 85 here in the OC. It’s warm out, but tolerable in the shade with a beverage and a breeze. Good luck century folks.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @NickT:

    We’re sending Luis Suarez to your house to bite you for that remark.

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    Not Sure says:

    @pat: I don’t think anyone’s seen the Newsweek anything since they went out of print. I sure haven’t. Seems their decision to go online-only has made them even more irrelevant than was already the case.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @NickT:

    Walk on with hope in your heart, and you’ll never walk alone.

    Which would also make a perfect campaign slogan.

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    trollhattan says:

    @cckids:

    I put some clothes out on the line to dry & almost expect them to go up in flames.

    Can’t you just kind of wave them around in the air and zot, they’re dry?

    As hot as it is here (and it is vewy, vewy hot) I wouldn’t wish a Vegas, or Phoenix summer on anybody. That shit will kill you dead [daid!].

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    MikeJ says:

    @NickT:

    You are the real Doctor House and I claim my $500.

    Inflation is a bitch. It used to just be five quid.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Not Sure:
    Newsweek, if I’m not mistaken, is now just a logo that Tina Brown puts on some Daily Beast stories.

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    NickT says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Does anyone actually read the Daily Beast any longer?

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    trollhattan says:

    So many to choose from, but I think this is my favorite from Bobby Bland. (Boz Scaggs does a good version, too.)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU7EEiDec5c

    A close second.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gVmx91JV_0

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @Amir Khalid: Kenya, Malaya were both British colonies, not much of a difference. I think you’re good to go Amir. Amir 2016!!!

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    Alex S. says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Aren’t they also called “The Reds”? How about Amir Khalid the Red?

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @Mnemosyne: Nice projection. I would love for gays to be able to marry wherever they want, like in many other countries where that is happening and it is no big deal. So, the new Guardian story of Obama administration keeping everyones emails, is it a nothingburger, or is it a complete nothingburger in terms of what you guys don’t give a shit about?

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    So, how did you shoot yourself in the balls?

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @Haydnseek: You misread. what I meant to say was that I am impressed you guys haven’t been loving the hit pieces going out against GG as a result of the NSA leaks. But its also not surprising that no one is coming to his defence. So, should the US government go after journalists for doing their job? Or is that another nothingburger of a story since its GG and you guys think his articles are too long.

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    MikeJ says:

    @NickT: I thought the Daily Beast was a newspaper from Enumclaw.

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    cckids says:

    @Violet: I’ve got an old-school Razor, which works fine. The spouse’s new iphone 5 is having problems. We’re getting taunted by my daughter, who is on her first solo road trip, bragging that it is 75 or so in San Francisco.

    We’re used to heat here, but 118-120 is surreal. The city’s set up cooling stations around town for homeless people or anyone who doesn’t have AC. I can’t truly imagine being out for hours in this heat.

    Old-timers here tell stories about building the runways at Nellis, when temps on the ground there would hit 130, then they’d get to go back to their tents for the hottest part of the day, then get up & work at night.
    Makes me feel like a pansy.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Dolly Llama:

    Damn, dude. They’re talking about you like you’re just decrepit as hell. You gonna take that shit?

    I’d get up from my motorized recliner and swat her, just as soon as I remember where i left my cane, to help me get to my Hoverround.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Alex S.:
    Wrong ideological connotation for the US. People will think I’m a Republican.

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    Violet says:

    @cckids: So no global warming then? This is cool?

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @NickT: Love it, keep the focus on Snowden and not the NSA. The government has trained you well.

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    cckids says:

    @Mnemosyne: The worst part for me of this type of heat is that at midnight, it will still be 100 degrees. It is killing all my tomatoes, & some of my roses. :(

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @pat:

    You mean the one from the height of the election campaign in August 2012, when Newsweek was still squeezing out a print edition with a cover?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    I’m actually much more upset by the Supreme Court’s gutting of the VRA than I am by the notion that my emails are being accumulated by the government. But, again, that’s the difference between people who are interested in civil rights and people who are interested in civil liberties.

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    NickT says:

    @MikeJ:

    i think you’ve just identified the homeland of T&H.

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @MikeJ:

    I thought the Daily Beast was a newspaper from Enumclaw

    Ah, The Claw.

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    cckids says:

    @trollhattan:

    Can’t you just kind of wave them around in the air and zot, they’re dry?

    We joke that by the time you get them up, come inside & have a glass of tea to recover, they are dry & ready to come in. Not far from true – it takes less than 30 minutes.

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    NickT says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Funny how libertarians don’t give a damn about minority voting rights, isn’t it? Greenwald said nothing, Snowden said nothing, Sullivan outsourced his commentary on the topic to Ross Douthat!

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    pat says:

    @Not Sure:

    Ha, I took another look at it. I can’t read the date, but it looks like August (more letters than June) and it is nothing more than everything that has ever been said about Obama, quoting Podhoretz. I bet it has been circulating since before the last election. Tee hee.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @cckids:

    I have friends in San Francisco, and there were points last summer when they had to wear their winter coats in the morning because it was so cold and damp.

    Mark Twain apparently never actually said, “The coldest winter I ever spent was summer in San Francisco,” but there’s more than a grain of truth there.

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @cckids: It’s a dry heat.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Gex:

    I hope you’re right. Didn’t know you were dealing with your own health issues, so forgive me for not seeing what you may have posted previously. You’ve been through a lot this year.

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    cckids says:

    @Violet:

    So no global warming then? This is cool?

    Not at all. The first three weeks of June here were the hottest EVER.
    There have always been heat waves through here (there was a reason no Native American tribes lived here year-round), but the summers are longer & hotter.

    My Nellis story was more along the lines of Jesus, I cannot imagine being a functioning human here without AC. And living in a TENT? Hell, no.

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    cckids says:

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    It’s a dry heat.

    So’s a crematorium.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @Mnemosyne: Right, again, another projection. Who is being the troll here? I didn’t like the voting rights decision either. But thanks for assuming that I didn’t care about that.

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    Snowden? That would be the other half of the comedy duo that didn’t understand what a server was, right? Direct access ring any bells? No?

    Guess it must be the pain of shooting off your balls that distracted you from reality.

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    Yes, but you wanted the 5th section of the VRA destroyed as well.

    That’s the difference between you and the decent people here.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @NickT: Um, not sure where I said that but if you want to make up shit that’s cool I guess. Also, your balls obsession is weird but hey if that’s your thing I’m not going to judge.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    You certainly weren’t commenting about the VRA as obsessively as you were about Snowden. Nor did you make a comment when Wendy Davis did her filibuster to protect the medical freedom of women in Texas. One can’t help but assume that you don’t give a shit about civil rights given your lack of concern about any issue other than Snowden.

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    Trying to deflect attention from your narcissistic racism, eh? Gee, I’ve NEVER seen a libertarian pulling that particular trick.

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    kc says:

    @trollhattan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_e2-Kbe9tY

    Got to see him live maybe 10 years ago. He was great.

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    👽 Martin says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    So, the new Guardian story of Obama administration keeping everyones emails,

    From the Guardian:

    a federal judge sitting on the secret surveillance panel called the Fisa court would approve a bulk collection order for internet metadata “every 90 days”.

    That’s not your email. That’s only the headers. And they’re public. If your email goes across one of my servers, I can read that part as well. Without it, your email couldn’t ever be routed. Stop peeing your pants just because you only now learned how the internet works.

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    Violet says:

    @cckids: Yeah, that is really hot and miserable. I can’t imagine doing that kind of work in that kind of heat. At least they had the sense to knock off during the worst heat of the day.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @Mnemosyne: I know eh, why do I prattle on about a nothingburger of a story. Your assumption meter is off the charts!

    Again, don’t really care about Snowden, more about the NSA spying on everyone but keep on doing the governments work and make it all about the messenger.

    It will be interesting to see in 2014 when the Democrats have another disappointing mid terms and people like you will be blaming Snowden and such, instead of, you know, maybe the Democratic establishment should stop encouraging the government to spy on everyone! But right, its never their fault, it’s cause the base didn’t clap hard enough for the spying. Now there is an assumption.

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    why do I prattle on about a nothingburger of a story

    Because you are a troll. Not a very interesting troll.Not a particularly competent troll. You are in fact the Chick-fil-a of trolls.

    So it goes.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @NickT: Again, making up shit, you are good at it! Also, it is hilarious to think what you assume about me as its totally off the mark, but I like this pigeon-holing, you guys have a great talent for it.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @NickT: Ya, must be a troll! Talking about something that puts a stain on the political party you worship. Lets keep it only about things that make our party look good!

    I could actually be trolling the threads about how awesome Nancy Pelosi is, but then you guys wouldn’t think that was trolling, you would be loving the shit out of it.

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    Talking about something that puts a stain on the political party you worship.

    You think the GOP needs your assistance with fouling its own nest?

    You are totes adorable, little fluffy troll with wetness behind ears.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @NickT: Right, must be for the GOP then! Maybe instead I would like the Democrats to do better, but that can’t be an option right!

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    Alex S. says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Haha, nice!

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    Nope, but keep trying. You’ll get there in the end.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @NickT: I guess I should clap louder.

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    WereBear says:

    @efgoldman: Otherwise they’re going to take us out of this house in boxes.

    My grandmother moved from her house of decades into assisted living, and was down on it at first. But then I started getting new topics in my weekly phone calls:

    “I don’t have to cook any more! It comes on a tray!”

    “I don’t have to do dishes anymore! I just put them back on the tray!”

    “You know, I don’t have to worry about keeping a household running any more, and that’s fine with me!”

    I realize it’s not at that point yet, but I’m just celebrating getting rid of a storage unit by my husband and I deciding to get rid of things instead of hanging onto them. It’s not just the storage fee every month; it’s how “things” can define you.

    Letting go of them, as my grandmother discovered, can be freedom.

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    Why change your approach now? It’s won you so many converts here, hasn’t it?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    It will be interesting to see in 2014 when the Democrats have another disappointing mid terms and people like you will be blaming Snowden and such, instead of, you know, maybe the Democratic establishment should stop encouraging the government to spy on everyone!

    Yes, I’m sure a disappointing election result in 2014 would have nothing at all to do with the Supreme Court gutting the Voting Rights Act and the subsequent voting restrictions that Republican state legislatures are passing even as we speak. Nope, it will all be because people are so disappointed about government spying that they just don’t show up at the polls, not that they were blocked from being allowed to go to the polls at all.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @WereBear:

    Heh. My great-aunt, a first-generation Italian immigrant with a large family, discovered the same thing when she moved into assisted living — it meant no more cooking, ever! She made it to 100, so it obviously agreed with her.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @NickT: Not sure if I’m looking for converts, more enjoy pointing out the Democratic authoritarianism of this place. But keep on enforcing, enforcer.

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    WereBear says:

    @Mnemosyne: I just started cooking a few years ago, so I haven’t built up a backlog yet :)

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    Enforcing? What, little me? Believe me, if I thought you were more than a silly little chewtoy, I’d enforce you back up Ron Paul’s racist ass with a sledgehammer.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @Mnemosyne: Ya see, I made an assumption. Also, VRA for now will mainly make it harder for minorities to vote in places that are already quite deep red anyways, so not sure how this is going to effect 2014 that much. Also, I understand that its easier for you to get riled up about the Supreme Court since you didn’t vote for them, so they aren’t on your team, so this is an issue you will rail about, since it doesn’t make Democrats look bad.

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    It’s so touching to see your commitment to democracy.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @NickT: Right, I must be a libertarian because I care about NSA spying! Only libertarians are allowed to care about that! I guess cause you assume it cannot be a liberal issue, you won’t care about no privacy either. Funny how some of the things 2008 Obama said would make him look like a libertarian in your eyes as well. I guess I would find him in Ron Paul’s ass in 2008 then?

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    I am sure you know the contents of Ron Paul’s ass better than any of us. You just aren’t very good at your job, little troll. Still, if the libertarian racist losers of the world want to entrust their lost cause to you, why should I complain? I like my chewtoys simple and easy to masticate and expectorate. Please proceed, gibberer.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @NickT: Also, love how whenever NSA talk comes up it inevitably leads to Libertarianism!! Ron Paul!! He’s racist! And that just shuts everyone up.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    Also, VRA for now will mainly make it harder for minorities to vote in places that are already quite deep red anyways, so not sure how this is going to effect 2014 that much.

    I guess you missed all the coverage of non-red states like Ohio and Wisconsin trying to get “voter ID” laws passed. But, hey, why should you care if Republicans manage to turn blue states into red states by restricting who’s allowed to vote? After all, the government might be looking at your metadata!

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @NickT: Ooh, love how you obsess over balls and asses! It really makes your insults pack so much of a punch! Really makes your (non-existent) for/against NSA spying all that more compelling and reasoned.

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    trollhattan says:

    @kc:

    Great choice–especially this week! I’d not seen that video before, which puts the song in a whole different light.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    should the US government go after journalists for doing their job?

    The Us government should go after journalists who can’t figure out how to do their job without committing a felony.

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    efgoldman says:

    @WereBear:

    Letting go of them, as my grandmother discovered, can be freedom.

    I am married to a pack rat. She grw up in an old farmhouse with an attached barn (not used for its intended purpose for decades). If they didn’t know what to do with something they “threw it in the bahn.” Habits you got into while growing up, are hard to break, even though we live in a small six-room ranch now. it still got a garage and a full basement

    , after all….

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    So, you never did answer the question with which this merry dialog began:

    How did you shoot yourself in the balls exactly?

    You don’t need to provide any evidence of how you shot yourself in the foot multiple times. That’s why we have comment threads.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @Mnemosyne: Right, well looks like you already have your whole list of boogeymen to blame for the 2014 midterm results. One thing I know you won’t blame though, is the Democrats doing shitty things, like spying on everyone.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @burnspbesq: What felony did GG commit?

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @NickT: Right, back to balls for you.

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    So you didn’t have the balls to shoot yourself in the balls? How disappointed Edward Snowden will be!

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    Yes, the losses in 2014 will have absolutely nothing to do with voting changes passed by Republican state legislatures — it will all be because people are mad about government spying.

    And thus your facade of I do too care about civil rights crumbles. You can’t be arsed to do anything about other people’s civil rights because you’re upset that the government knows which porn sites you visit.

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    NickT says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    You can’t be arsed to do anything about other people’s civil rights because you’re upset that the government knows which porn sites you visit.

    “All of them, Charlie.”

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @Mnemosyne: Tell me how VRA is going to be changed then. This was a decision made by unelected officials. Tell me also when Citizens United is going to be repealed? Oh that’s right, it will have to be done by political leadership, which I haven’t really seen the Democratic party doing much of to change this. I hear sighing of VRA now is going to make it worse for Dems but, how come I don’t hear, well let’s try and fix this? Why is that too bold? As with Citizens United, I believe this VRA will hear a couple people stomping their feet for a little bit, then no real action taken to change it. Also, should one be that unhappy about one court decision, while being super happy about DOMA being repealed? Not really sure if it should be the Judicial Branch of the government that seems to be making a lot of the big political decisions these days.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    This was a decision made by unelected officials.

    Yes, it was. So obviously the solution is, what, to make sure that fewer people are allowed to participate in elections because then the magical gnomes will fix everything?

    More and better Democrats is the only solution, but we’re not going to get that when people like you keep insisting that elections aren’t important so we should worry more about the NSA than about the VRA.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @Mnemosyne: In order for there to be more Democrats, the current Democrats need to do their job and inspire more people to vote for them. Depressing their base and making people suspicious of them because they are spying on everyone is not going to get people out to vote for ‘more and better’. The current ones need to be taking stands on issues that are consistent with their Democratic party ideals, not continuing despised Bush era policies. All this does is make people think why bother voting if you are going to end up with the same shit? Especially with young people who are more electronically engaged, and are a big base of the Dems? Turning them away is not going to help.

    Again, more projection from you, but I never said elections weren’t important. But its continuing repellent Republican policies that will ensure Democrats continue to have trouble. Just not making sure to get more Democrats.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    In order for there to be more Democrats, the current Democrats need to do their job and inspire more people to vote for them.

    “Inspiration” means jack shit if your voters are legally blocked from voting in the first place. But, hey, cling to your mythology where it’s all the Democrats’ fault if Republicans in the majority pass legislation preventing people from voting because Democrats should have, like, done something. Or something.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    100 million Americans don’t have access to broadband internet. But I’m sure they’re more worried about (purported) NSA spying on the people who do have internet access than they are about their own voting rights.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @Mnemosyne: Okay, well keep on clinging to the mythology that its all the Republicans fault and people don’t care about privacy or Obama continuing gross Republican legislation. This is what Democrats need to do, not whine about Republicans. There is always got to be someone else to blame, isn’t there. Where is the Democratic plan to repeal Citizens United? Oh ya, nonexistent. Here we come full circle, if Dem’s are pissed about these civil right subversions why aren’t they trying anything to fight it?

    Your whole point is to clap louder for shit and then hopefully that shit will turn into a diamond.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    Okay, well keep on clinging to the mythology that its all the Republicans fault and people don’t care about privacy or Obama continuing gross Republican legislation.

    People who don’t have access to the internet don’t give a shit about internet privacy.

    Your white male privilege is showing again. Who cares if a 90-year-old black woman can’t vote — she’s not on the internet, so she’s not important, amirite?

    This is what Democrats need to do, not whine about Republicans.

    Wow. You lack even the most basic understanding of how a government operates, don’t you? Yes, when the Republicans are in the majority, Democrats should do, um, something.

    It would require a constitutional amendment to change Citizens United. Tell me, how does one go about changing the US Constitution? Can you describe the three ways spelled out in that document? Or would you rather complain about Democrats while ignoring reality?

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @Mnemosyne: Only 126 million people voted in the 2012 election, so your point is? More people have broadband access than who vote?

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @Mnemosyne: When Democrats had majority, then the blame was shifted to the Blue Dogs, it never ends who you have to blame.

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    Socoolsofresh says:

    @Mnemosyne: Also, you are narrowing it down to internet privacy when this encompasses all media privacy. That 90 year old woman might not have internet but she most likely has a phone, and I bet she isn’t that happy about that being spied on.

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    NickT says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    Don’t look now, but Greenwald’s credibility just took a major hit:

    http://littlegreenfootballs.co.....yne_Madsen

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    lojasmo says:

    @Socoolsofresh:

    puts a stain on the political party you worship

    You are a moron.

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    JR in WV says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Actually, I think a federal law defining corporations as not-citizens and removing any and all rights held by citizens from corporations would do it.

    Now, how likely THAT is, I can’t say.

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