Late Night Open Thread: Again, with the Projection

Courtesy of several commentors, Americablog shares “the most unfortunate anti-gay logo and slogan in the history of politics“:

call 2 fall logo via americablog

It’s official: Either their ad agency really hates them, or these guys just can’t stop thinking about gay sexual innuendo. Maybe both!

Details & video at the link (I’d almost managed to put the 2M4M campaign out of my memory… )

64 replies
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    Yatsuno says:

    These guys obsess over teh ghey buttsecks more than I do. And I’m a Scorpio.

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    MikeJ says:

    Didja see Gov Goodhair pay his compliments to Wendy Davis?

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    Keith says:

    Best comment on their related Facebook page: “Get on your knees and eat the host!”

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    Amir Khalid says:

    There’s people to whom teh ghey buttsecks is a normal part of life; and then there’s people who can’t stop thinking and thinking and thinking about it, and about how some other people are — GASP 1! lebenty ! — enjoying it!

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    Linda Featheringill says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Hey you! Haven’t seen your smiling face in a long time!

    Howya doin?

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    Villago Delenda Est says:


    They cannot stop thinking about it. They just can’t. It totally rules their world.

    They need to get lives. Seriously. I would suggest that as a first step they get into cosplay, SCA, Star Trek conventions, or something else less life consuming.

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    Liquid says:

    I do believe that “On All Fores 4 America.” // “On All 4s For America.” would be a more in/appropriate ad.

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    elaine benis says:


    Ha. Love this comment:

    Give Rick Perry credit. He managed to call Davis a bastard without upsetting the church ladies.

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    max says:

    these guys just can’t stop thinking about gay sexual innuendo

    ‘Those gay stick figures just can’t stop sucking my cock.’

    This has got to be recycled as the publicity campaign for some gay hookup app.

    [‘Bottoms up.’]

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Linda Featheringill:
    I’ve been right here all this while. I’m doing okay, Bianca too.

    Um, when did I show you my smiling face?

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    scav says:

    call 2 fall has got to be really insider baseball to even be explicable. Once given a context, all I could come up with is falling into sin and the Fall of Man and that brings up eating of the apple (or better still, figs) and then I’m off. . .

  13. 13

    Where is Fundamentally Oral Bill? We could use him about now.

  14. 14

    A lot of the obvious jokes have already been covered on that LGM thread.

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    NotMax says:

    Well, blow me down.

    (Reference to the same oddity the post is about was made at the tail end of Chris Hayes’ show on Thursday.)

  16. 16
    Joseph Nobles says:

    Stop what you’re doing
    Get down upon your knees
    I’ve a message for you
    That you better believe believe believe

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    scav says:

    So get down upon your knees,
    Fiddle with your rosaries,
    Bow your head with great respect,
    And genuflect, genuflect, genuflect!

    Make a cross on your abdomen,
    When in rome do like a roman,
    Ave maria,
    Gee it’s good to see ya,
    Gettin’ ecstatic an’
    Sorta dramatic an’
    Doin’ the vatican rag!

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    So now you know who gets mystified
    Show me the power child
    I’d like to say
    That I’m down on my knees today
    It gives me the butterflies
    Gives me away
    Till I’m up on my feet again
    I’m feeling outshined.

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    @scav: HAHA, Tom Lehrer, excellent!

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    Looks like someone begging for mercy. I dunno, nevermind the buttsechs jokes, I find the image of a grown person on their knees abjectly supplicating the Sky God to be pretty disturbing all on its own.

    For one thing, howcum these people never catch on that God’s edicts line up so neatly with the pastor’s material and psychic interests?

    For another thing, why does God need a starship need you on your knees like a fucking fool?

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    Liquid says:

    @NotMax: Bangarang Ruffio!

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    Rushdoony and that little boy smile
    Rushdoony with that slow southern style
    A new religion that’ll bring you to your knees
    Rushdoony if you please.


    Too obscure?

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    raven says:

    @NotMax: I just watched a video from the Die Hard where a woman is reeling in a nice Ahi and the lne goes slack. Tightens again and she lands it with a huge bit taken out of it!

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    Xenos says:

    Someday I have to track down the old Desmond Morris interpretation of group worship and prayer. It is a bit essentialistic and tends to look to sociobiology where it can not apply, but the ethological approach to human can be instructive. (That was Aimai bait. The rest of you can ignore that.)

    His point, as well as I can remember it 30 years later, is that humans in worship act out primate subservience rituals, like so many female or adolescent male gorillas genuflecting to the biggest silverback around. Like a stressed out dog that roll on its back seeking approval, anxious humans need to act out their subservience to a big powerful daddy so that they can feel safe and secure.

    To extend this approach to our current patriarchal religions, these worshipers also need everybody else to play along. If some beta male is giggling in the bushes at the whole ritual display of subservience it is going to really piss off the humans who need, as a deep psychological level, for everybody else to experience the same delusions and play their parts in the same rituals. Thus conservative-authoritarians hate liberals much more than competing groups of conservative-authoritarians because liberals delegitmize the whole enterprise and break up the whole magic spell that they desperately need everyone to believe in order for it to work.

    Aimai would probably give me a C- for this half baked theory, but I think Morris was really on to something.

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    Cacti says:

    Since it’s a new day…

    Has Ed Snowden shot himself in the balls yet?

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @Cacti: Putin ate them for breakfast.

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    Randy P says:

    @Xenos: As far as the “subservience rituals” I don’t think there’s anything mysterious or earth-shattering there. It’s the same posture you take with royalty across many cultures.

    It does raise one interesting question in my mind though. Moslem prayer also uses a subservient position for prayer. But as far as I know (which isn’t far) Jewish prayer services do not. If so, where did it get introduced into Christianity?

    Perhaps with the earthly power the Pope used to have. Don’t know if you’re aware, but there are moments in some Catholic rituals where the priest is actually supposed to be lying face down on the ground. It’s called “prostration”.

    One thing about your theory intrigued me: the part about how if somebody doesn’t submit to our Alpha he is immediately identified as not in our tribe and we can all beat him up and steal his bananas. I think you have something there.

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    Xenos says:

    @Randy P:

    It does raise one interesting question in my mind though. Moslem prayer also uses a subservient position for prayer. But as far as I know (which isn’t far) Jewish prayer services do not. If so, where did it get introduced into Christianity?

    It could be from existing Greek or Egyptian practices, or from one or more of the mystery cults that were popular at the time. Maybe a well-known esoteric practice that was now made public and exoteric. Everybody can be an insider now, come join the Xtians!!

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    WereBear says:

    I know Amoebas get along just fine with zero self-awareness, but I didn’t know humans apparently had the same ability.

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    Response from The Last Tradition a conservative blog: I think the warped thinking is on your side of the aisle. I look at that Logo and see a man on his knees in prayer. To see otherwise demonstrates the kind of value system the observer truly has.


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    John S. says:

    @Randy P:

    Jews may not kneel for prayer, but there are other ways to show subservience before G-d.

    We cover out heads (typically with a yarmulke) as a sign of respect. We wear a prayer shawl (tallit) and phylactaries (tefillin) tied to our heads and wrapped around our arms for many types of services. You are expected to have tzeniut (modesty) in your clothing to pray.

    I’d say kneeling is getting off light.

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    Elizabelle says:


    Very perceptive comment.

    some beta male is giggling in the bushes at the whole ritual display

    Sounds like your intertubes.

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    Applejinx says:

    I think there’s also an element of human weakness involved: when we’re taught to do a thing very young, like kneel to pray, it becomes hard-wired and to depart from that model always involves a feeling of dislocation, a wrongness that’s pretty arbitrary.

    I pray (not specifically religious) and I kneel—actually kinda kowtow, to be honest—with an understanding that it is about MY limited ability to contextualize such things. I don’t think God gives a rat’s ass, but I do think that whatever God is, it matters that I’m engaged with the praying, rather than separating myself from it and intellectualizing it. There’s a type of submission to whatever that greater power is, which demands that I do whatever the fuck it is I feel necessary in order to get with the ‘there’s God, and I’m not it’ program.

    I think a lot of these right wing holy rollers are looking to BE God by their worship. By their rituals they figure they become the same thing as God, and can go out and smite. I don’t like it. I sure don’t get such instructions.

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    Botsplainer, fka Todd says:

    So the fake valor dude who got eviscerated by Tammy Duckworth (with a creditable assist from Issa) hasn’t adjusted his company web page or taken down his twitter.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @scav: It was a pomegranate – not an apple or a fig. Jeez.

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    Baud says:

    Cum all ye faithful…

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    debbie says:

    Pity that conservatives’ understanding of marketing, taglines, and graphic design is as superficial as their alleged mastery of social media. What pathetic jokes they are.

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    maurinsky says:

    Better pray for your sins
    Cause the gay messiah’s coming.

    No, it will not be me
    Rufus the Baptist I’ll be
    No I won’t be the one
    baptized in cum.

    What will happen instead,
    someone will demand my head.
    And then I will kneel down
    and give it to them, going down.

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    Randy P says:

    @John S.: So like I say, it makes me curious how it got into Christianity, since Christianity was at its origins a Jewish cult.

    I suspect as I said it had something to do with the Pope consolidating power. I grew up Catholic and there are a whole lot of subservience rituals to priests, bishops and popes too. Actually that’s where the split started for me. I had it drilled into me that when you meet a bishop, you kneel and kiss his ring. And then, at my Confirmation ritual no less, the bishop stopped to speak with me and waited expectantly for me to do my thing.

    I couldn’t make myself do it.

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    Cassidy says:

    It’s just a fictional character, people. No one is kneeling before Zod. Great character, great movies and great story archs in the comics, but still fictional. I am excited to see how Michael Shannon’s portrayl stacks up against terrence Stamp’s. Those are some huge shoes to fill.

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    beltane says:

    @Randy P: Yes, kneeling was derived from the protestations made before the emperor.

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    You got both hands. You got both hands.
    You got praying hands. You got praying hands.
    They pray for no man. They pray for no man.

    Okay, relax, and assume the position!
    Go into doggie submission!

    Wash your hands three times a day
    Always do what your mom and dad say
    Brush your teeth in the following way
    Wash your hands three times a day

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    @Botsplainer, fka Todd: wow, that guy is VERY Catholic. Tweets are all religious and about the church. I’ll bet he’s an Opus Dei follower. They have that element of superficial extreme piety covering criminality that has to be seen to be believed.

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    Emma says:

    So I had to get out of bed and go to work even though I feel like shit and this is the first thing I see. And I can’t stop laughing. Thank you FSM!

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @soonergrunt (mobile): Hmmm, you got all that from it? I stopped at “Wow, dude’s a loony.”

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    different-church-lady says:

    I don’t see what’s so gay about vomiting on the ground.

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    Fred says:

    @Randy P: Judaism predates both the Christian and the Mohammedan sects. Both of the later developed in Roman occupied territory I believe.

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    NickT says:

    I think it’s cruel of them to mock Tebowing this way.

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    NickT says:


    Islam developed in the Arabian peninsula in territory outside the Late Roman/Byzantine empire.

  52. 52
    Maude says:

    Get through the day and feel better.

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    Citizen_X says:

    @the last tradition: “You didn’t get my logo because you’re a disgusting pervert!” Marketing: Ur doin it rong.

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    MomSense says:

    Please let this be peak wingnut. I don’t know how much more I can take.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Muslims consider referring to Islam as the “Mohammedan” faith inaccurate and even offensive.

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    Origuy says:

    @beltane: The Roman emperor was pontifex maxiumus, the high priest of the official cult. When Constantine I became a Christian, he didn’t give that up. Later it got transferred to the Pope, along with the rituals.

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    NotMax says:


    Almost worth stuffing and mounting to have around as a conversation piece.

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    smedley the uncertain says:

    @beltane: Who was Constantine as the first royal head of the church; 300 a.d. +/-. Obeisance or supplication was the order of the day for toward Emperors, and since he elevated Xtianity as the only religion in the empire, he got all the obeisance he could use. His annointed Bishops asumed to themselves similar rites as part recognition of their exalted position.

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    Cathie from Canada says:

    My husband commented “At least they didn’t pick the slogan ‘Blow me down'”

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    jc says:

    How many times have we heard Limbaugh conservatives wail about having the liberal agenda shoved down their throats. Those liberals are trying to make the poor regressives bend over and live in the modern world. You’ll have to pry their bigotry out of their cold, dead minds.

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    cokane says:

    why is getting on your knees gay innuendo? straight ppl can have blowjobs or anal sex too!

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    Phoenician in a time of Romans says:


    These guys obsess over teh ghey buttsecks more than I do.

    Please. Have some respect,

    This is not teh ghey buttsecks, This is teh ghey slurpsecks.

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    Fort Geek says:

    @the last tradition: Could be you just have no sense of humor. HTH, HAND.

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