When Is It Okay to Kill Unarmed Black Kids?

What should you do if you’re a news organization covering an ongoing controversial murder case where the defense makes a website full of material that might poison the jury pool of that trial? Well if you’re CBS Miami, you publish all those materials and put a murder victim’s character on trial. (Warning: This links to an autoplay video)

Great job media: while the legal system tries George Zimmerman for murder, the media is trying Trayvon Martin for black criminality.

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46 replies
  1. 1
    Odie Hugh Manatee says:

    I hope that any prospective jury members are as disgusted at the defense pulling this as I am. The Zimmerman supporters keep harping on about how Zimmerman was in the right to defend himself because he feared that his life was in danger, ignoring the fact that it was Martin who was the only one who rightfully should have been in fear of his life that night.

    Trayvon was the one being stalked by a nut with a gun and bad intentions. He was right to fear for his life and fight for it.

  2. 2
    LT says:

    That’s on AUTOPLAY – just to let you know.

  3. 3
    kindness says:

    In Florida they think this is a trick question.

  4. 4
    Dee Loralei says:

    That report was absolutely disgusting. I get why the defense released the info. I don’t get why the press thinks tainting a jury pool makes good business sense for them. Maybe in cases like this when emotions run high it might behoove us to emulate some of the UK laws about trials and suspects, etc……Yea, I know, First Amendment.

  5. 5
    Eric U. says:

    nobody reads newspapers anyway. If they had someone sing the info about Trayvon Martin on American Idol, maybe a significant portion of the jury pool would be tainted

  6. 6
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    Puh-leeze!

    The kid was black. This means his criminality is/was a given.

  7. 7
    Scott S. says:

    @Dee Loralei: They’ll get better ratings and more readers if Zimmerman is acquitted. They want white readers, preferably conservative, preferably racist, because they think it’s a growth market.

  8. 8
    Chris says:

    @Dee Loralei:

    I get why the defense released the info. I don’t get why the press thinks tainting a jury pool makes good business sense for them.

    Imagine the backlash and accusations of conspiracy and taking sides that would fly if it came out (and it would) that CBS was given information about one of the defendants and “suppressed” it.

  9. 9
    Brother Machine Gun of Desirable Mindfulness (fka AWS) says:

    @LT: I was just about to say. Autoplay is the wrong play.

  10. 10
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Scott S.:

    They want white readers, preferably conservative, preferably racist, because they think it’s a growth market.

    They’re about as bright about demographic trends as the Rmoney campaign was.

  11. 11
    TenguPhule says:

    What should you do if you’re a news organization covering an ongoing controversial murder case where the defense makes a website full of material that might poison the jury pool of that trial? Well if you’re CBS Miami,

    See, there’s your problem right there. Thinking CBS Miami is actually a news organization instead of Whitecentric Propo.

  12. 12
    gocart mozart says:

    Shouldn’t Zimmerman’s sex life and penis size also be relevant?

  13. 13
    piratedan says:

    well if only Nancy Grace was on the job, oh wait a minute…..our victim isn’t white, nevermind

    well then if only Trayvon was alive to defend against these allegations, oh yeah, he’s not.

    wonder if his family can bring suit as its an invasion of privacy.

  14. 14
    Amir Khalid says:

    If the judge decides this was a deliberate ploy to contaminate the jury pool with prejudicial information, can she sanction defence counsel in any way?

  15. 15
    Yatsuno says:

    When Is It Okay To Kill Unarmed Black Kids?

    This is rhetorical, right?

  16. 16
    Fluke bucket says:

    I will wait on the lawyers to chime in but my guess is that this is just a part of giving the very best defense possible for your client. Zimmerman is going to skate. You might as well prepare for that nauseating conclusion.

  17. 17

    CBS Miami asked itself, “How will this play in Del Boca Vista?”. Nothing “sells” like scaring the crap out of olds.

  18. 18
    rikyrah says:

    Trayvon Martin was

    STALKED…

    HUNTED…

    MURDERED

    for the crime of WALKING WHILE BLACK.

    He was minding his own damn business when he was hunted by that racist sociopath.

    Trayvon Martin went to the store for some skittles and iced tea.

    And, for that, he is now DEAD.

    FUCK ANY MUTHAFUCKA who remotely ‘tries’ to come up with an ‘ explanation’ as to why Trayvon is dead.

    HE WAS FUCKING MURDERED.

  19. 19
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @rikyrah:

    for the crime of WALKING WHILE BLACK.

    Doesn’t go far enough.

    For the crime of EXISTING WHILE BLACK.

    This is pretty much Obama’s major malfunction, I might add.

  20. 20
    belieber says:

    I fucking hate it when videos auto start when I visit a page. Switch it to manual because it’s annoying as fuck otherwise!

  21. 21
    Tom_B says:

    I’d sue the defense team for libel.

  22. 22
    Trollhattan says:

    Apparently, Zimmerman has burned throught $400k and is back for some more wingnut welfare. Is this why Bachmann is quitting–too busy to get her fair cut?

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelli.....again.html

  23. 23
    ruemara says:

    Can’t wait for the resident contrarians to chide everyone for pre-judging.

  24. 24
    metricpenny says:

    @rikyrah:

    Word.

  25. 25
    Petorado says:

    If we apply the Zimmerman defense team’s criteria about retroactively looking for reasons why anyone can be legally shot under “stand your ground” laws to all the other residents of the US, a really huge percentage of us deserve to die. Social media is great: it will serve as proof you had it coming to you when some crazy guy with a gun pops off.

  26. 26
    scav says:

    @Petorado: Trial by Combat. GOD has clearly elected the fit by chosing the last man standing and blessing him as justified in all things and righteous in action. Another retro idea whose time has apparently come again as some roll-back the Age of Enlightenment etc.

  27. 27
    Chris says:

    @Trollhattan:

    Apparently, Zimmerman has burned throught $400k and is back for some more wingnut welfare. Is this why Bachmann is quitting–too busy to get her fair cut?

    Well, at least I know what to do if I can’t get a job that’ll let me pay back my college loans – shoot a kid, blame liberals, run sobbing into Fox News’ arms, and then let the money pour in. As a bonus, they’ll proclaim me a symbol of their “tough on crime” stance precisely because I committed a crime.

    A soul is a small price to pay, I suppose.

  28. 28
    karen says:

    Maybe we’ll be lucky and Zimmerman will put the gun in his mouth, pull the trigger and blow his brains out.

  29. 29
    karen says:

    When Is It Okay To Kill Unarmed Black Kids?

    Wrong question. The question is “When isn’t it?”

  30. 30
    chopper says:

    @Petorado:

    lol, the ‘Zimmerman Defense’.

    “he had it coming! have you read his twitter feed?!”

  31. 31
    chopper says:

    @karen:

    i guess it depends on whether you’re talking about america or the country i wish america was.

  32. 32
    Svensker says:

    @karen:

    That’s a really awful thing to say. Seriously.

  33. 33
    catpal says:

    yeah media that promotes “attack the victim” is typical garbage media.

    This is what the prosecution needs to use to convict Zimmerman of intentional murder.

    At least eight burglaries were reported within Twin Lakes in the 14 months prior to the Trayvon Martin shooting … In several of the incidents, witnesses identified the suspects to police as young black men. …One morning in July 2011, a black teenager walked up to Zimmerman’s front porch and stole a bicycle, neighbors told Reuters.

    The last time Zimmerman had called police, to report Burgess, he followed protocol and waited for police to arrive. They were too late, and Burgess got away.

    This time, Zimmerman was not so patient, and he disregarded police advice against pursuing Martin.

    “These assholes,” he muttered in an aside, “they always get away.”

    Moments later, Martin lay dead with a bullet in his chest.

    Zimmerman was Angry at the blacks that he claims got away in the previous burglaries -nhe sounds pretty determined to kill the next black boy he suspects.

    they better have a good jury for this trial – that sees past the defense attorney dirty tricks.

  34. 34
    Kristin says:

    @ruemara: Saying that this was a sleazy tactic is exactly the same as if Obama had Zimmerman killed by a drone.

  35. 35
    Patricia Kayden says:

    “the media is trying Trayvon Martin for black criminality.”

    Strictly guilt by association since Martin never committed any crimes during his shortened life.

  36. 36
    Citizen_X says:

    Is it even legal for a legal team to publicly defame a victim like that in advance of a trial? I get that’s it’s fair in the course of a trial (as much as the judge allows), but, as Elon says, this reeks of sabotaging the jury pool. Any lawyers want to weigh in?

  37. 37
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Citizen_X:

    You can libel a dead person all you want, so they’re probably in the clear from that point of view. I don’t know if the prosecution can get some kind of injunction on the grounds of it possibly tainting the jury pool.

    ETA: To be clear, IANAL, I took an entertainment law class and know that a dead person can’t sue for libel (or slander).

  38. 38
    Forum Transmitted Disease says:

    If the judge decides this was a deliberate ploy to contaminate the jury pool with prejudicial information, can she sanction defence counsel in any way?

    @Amir Khalid: Once you’ve gotten over the not inconsiderable hurdle of proving it was a deliberate act, sure. However, I have found that, absent a “fuck you, your Honor”, most judges do not enforce sanctions for behavior that is not directed at them personally.

    I’ll echo the sentiments above: have the barf bags ready, because no matter what gets brought up at trial Zimmerman walks. There is no fucking way a Florida jury is going to unanimously vote to convict him for doing what most of them secretly want to do.

  39. 39
    El Cid says:

    I heard it was okay to shoot black kids in your neighborhood if you had reasonable post-hoc suspicion that he had somehow been involved in boxing.

  40. 40
    AxelFoley says:

    @Fluke bucket:

    Zimmerman better hope he gets convicted and put in solitary. He will not walk this Earth long if he does skate. Someone will get his sorry ass.

  41. 41
    Ted & Hellen says:

    @rikyrah:

    And we know this all to be true, without reservation, because you used a lot of ALL CAPS and double spaced your text.

    Awesome.

  42. 42
    Tone in DC says:

    @Ted & Hellen:

    Derp strikes again. Pie filter is a go.

  43. 43
    Quaker in a Basement says:

    When Is It Okay to Kill Unarmed Black Kids?

    That depends on which state legislature you ask.

  44. 44
    Cacti says:

    @karen:

    Wrong question. The question is “When isn’t it?”

    This. Beat me to it.

    When hasn’t it been okay in this country to kill a black male for merely existing where white people live?

  45. 45
    Cygil says:

    Here we go again. Round 2: The “needed killing” trolls will come out to say that Zimmerman did the world a favor by ridding the world of a vicious teenage thug hyped up on minute trace amounts of marijuana and skittles, and the “due process” trolls will come out to say that a fair trial absolutely requires the defense to dump irrelevant, prejudicial, and out of context material that has been excluded by the judge into the media in order to influence the jury pool. Hell, it’s just good defense ethics.

  46. 46
    Cygil says:

    @Citizen_X:

    Is it even legal for a legal team to publicly defame a victim like that in advance of a trial?

    Florida Rules of Professional Conduct

    Rule 4-3.6 Trial Publicity

    (a) Prejudicial Extrajudicial Statements Prohibited.

    A lawyer shall not make an extrajudicial statement that a reasonable person would expect to be disseminated by means of public communication if the lawyer knows or reasonably should know that it will have a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing an adjudicative proceeding due to its creation of an imminent and substantial detrimental effect on that proceeding.

    IANAL, but I see no reason why disclosing evidence in anticipation of it being excluded at trial in order to influence the jury pool should not fall afoul of this rule.

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