Open Thread: We Are Never Going to Be Rid of The Horrible Bush Family

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… Despite my and Bar’s fervent wishes. Alex Pareene thinks the fooferaw over the manure locker is not so much about Fortunate Dim Son, but the “Bush family furiously selling itself to Americans once again“:

… After presidents are done being presidents, they get to build big museums about themselves, because a tradition that originally involved simply making the documents and papers and records of a president available to researchers and the public obviously became this giant, expensive, pseudo-regal tribute thing, because this is America and we’re really weird about presidents.

Every president gets a library, even the bad ones. Nixon’s library is supposed to be a pretty cool place now that the National Archives people are running it instead of his surviving cronies. For some reason Ford — Ford! — has a library and a museum. Like, separate buildings in different cities. The Bush library so far sounds terrible, dishonest and hilarious, just as much of the coverage surrounding its dedication has been. (It will likely get more honest with time, as the National Archives people fix the hagiography the Bush Foundation people created.) At the library opening ceremony, the current president has to say nice things about the last president, even if the last president was a terrible president…

The orchestrated rehabilitation of the Bush name isn’t just happening because of the library. It’s also pretty urgently politically necessary. George P. Bush, the president’s nephew, is running for statewide office in Texas in 2014. (P. Bush is apparently terrible at giving speeches and is utterly unable to answer questions from the press so he will obviously be president one day.) Texas is friendly territory for a Bush. The country at large, one poll notwithstanding, isn’t yet. Bush’s brother Jeb desperately needs it to be, because he plans on running for president in a few years.

One reason you can already start despising Jeb Bush: Terri Schiavo.

Also, thanks to commentor Hal, Steven Rosenfeld at Jezebel has a meticulous list of “50 Reasons You Despised George W. Bush’s Presidency” — and the commentors are coming up with even more…

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    some guy says:

    poor Terri

  2. 2
    Mike in NC says:

    As I’ve noted before here, this country will not be safe until the entire Bush family is marched into a field and machine-gunned into oblivion. Is the new Bush grandchild named Joffrey by chance?

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    Hill Dweller says:

    While I’d love nothing more than to see the whole Bush clan ride of into the sunset, all my ire is directed at the current group of vile Republicans. They are way outside the mainstream of modern American politics, and engaging in a level of nihilism no one has ever seen, but the hacks in the Beltway refuse to acknowledge it.

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    Todd says:

    Jesus. What a bunch of total fuckups. My hatred of Bushes and their imbecility is now boundless.

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    Todd says:

    BTW – OT – Have restarted Foyles War from the beginning as there are supposed to be new episodes coming, plus, am crushing on Strawberry Months or whatever her name is.


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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    Jesus, the brother of George W. Bush will never be President. It won’t happen.

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    Chris says:


    Any idea when the new episodes are supposed to start airing in the U.S? And on what channel? I love that show.

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    NotMax says:

    Repeating (and expanding), as previous thread pretty much dead.

    Y’know, now that I’ve had the chance to listen to some of the speechifying at the ceremony, I find Dubya’s repeated emphasis on “convictions” an odd (almost Freudian?) evocation, or perhaps even a deliberate in-yer-face raspberry to his detractors.

    Because convictions of the criminal sort are what were/remain most deserved to be laid upon so many of that woebegone administration.

    “We stood by our convictions.” is not praiseworthy when the convictions cited are flawed, deceptive, destructive, malevolent, despotic, illegal and (add your own string of descriptions here).

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    NotMax says:

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Odious as they are, at least brothers Neil and Marvin show the good sense to keep a low profile.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: From your fingers to the FSM’s noodly appendages. But I never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.

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    hamletta says:

    Y’all, have you seen this Gawker piece on the teeny boppers crushing on Dzhokhar Tsarnaev? They’re combining dreamy pix and Alex Jones conspiracy theory, because he’s too cute to be guilty!

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    amk says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: A country as forgiving as murka that brought back the same destructive clowns to the congress within 2 years of dumbya regime? Of course, it is unpossible.

  13. 13
    Yutsano says:

    Jeebus that took forever to post! Feed the damn gerbils!

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    amk says:

    Also. Too. Dumbya 2.

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    @NotMax: Say what you like about the tenets of Bushism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.

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    NotMax says:

    Open thread?

    This manifestation of time’s relentless passage made me sad.

    Comic Billy Connolly has told an audience he is terrified by memory losses he has begun to suffer.

    The 70-year-old was hit repeatedly by gaps in memory during the gig and had to be reminded of what he was talking about.

    He said: “This is f*****g terrifying. I feel like I’m going out of my mind.”

    His problems with memory loss were previously acknowledged by his wife Pamela Stephenson.  Source

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @amk: The Congressional assholes did not have the name Bush. No fucking chance. W screwed his brother.

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    AxelFoley says:


    Also. Too. Dumbya 2.

    Electric Boogaloo?

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    Suffern ACE says:

    Arghh. I hate non-plans masquerading as plans, put in PowerPoint to make it seem that they should be presented.

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    mdblanche says:

    It’s good to see Shrub in public again. No, good’s the wrong word. It’s useful to see Shrub in public again. I can understand the desire of the country to unperson him, but having him around is a useful reminder of who got us where we are in the first place and whose allies are keeping us there.

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    Redshift says:


    “We stood by our convictions.” is not praiseworthy when the convictions cited are flawed, deceptive, destructive, malevolent, despotic, illegal and (add your own string of descriptions here).

    Pigheadedness is one of his few characteristics that everyone, friend or foe, seems to agree on, so of course he’s going to call it “standing by our convictions,” and claim it’s a virtue.

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    PeakVT says:

    Kudos to Jezebel for that particularly unflattering picture of the smirking one.

    dedication of the $500 million

    People are free to do what they want with their money, but $500 million? I wonder how much of that is more consultant grift.

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    mdblanche says:

    @hamletta: It looks like it’s not just teenage boys who think with their gonads these days.

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    amk says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: The white numbnutz will vote for any name with a R behind it. The only way the dems win in 2014 & 2016 is GOTV as done the kenyan muslin usurper. I have my own doubts about dems doing any such sane things.

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    Ted & Hellen says:

    Also, thanks to commentor Hal, Steven Rosenfeld at Jezebel has a meticulous list of “50 Reasons You Despised George W. Bush’s Presidency”

    Would have been nice if our current president hadn’t spent the day today helping to rehabilitate the treasonous Bush Boy’s legacy…oh well. Oligarchs gotta oligate.

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    amk says:

    @Ted & Hellen: And idjits gonna be idjits.

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    Redshift says:


    People are free to do what they want with their money, but $500 million? I wonder how much of that is more consultant grift.

    Oh, at least as much as in most Republican campaigns these days, I’d imagine.

    Reminds me of the Ronald Reagan building, an office building in DC, which is in many ways the perfect monument to the Reagan Administration. It was announced with great fanfare that it was going to be entirely privately funded, but it became a huge white elephant and only was completed with government funding.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @hamletta: so when rush was bitching about the photos if Jahar on that EW thread last night, he was railing against a bunch of teenaged girls?

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    mouse tolliver says:

    I usually have the news on during the day while I work, but yesterday I kept the channel fixed on the station that runs Charlie’s Angels all afternoon.

    When I finally switched to MSNBC, the coverage almost made me want to self-radicalize. Almost.

    Tweety and Chuck Todd had visible erections over this sloppy presidential bukkake. But I saw it as a reminder that The President of the United States of America is allowed to kill tens of thousands of people at a time — for no good reason.

    Also too, The President of the United States of America can ruin the lives of millions more people because of a spreadsheet error — or maybe even deliberate malfeasance.

    But its all good. Because they’re members of the world’s most exclusive club.

    We might as well go back to monarchy if this is what passes for “presidenting.”

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    Ted & Hellen says:

    At the library opening ceremony, the current president has to say nice things about the last president, even if the last president was a terrible president…

    What a load of cretinous horse shit. Obama could have stayed in D.C. and not said a word.

    But of course he wants to ensure that no one talks honestly about HIM when he’s done in three years….

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    NotMax says:


    but $500 million?

    $100 million for heavy black Sharpies to black out sections of FOIA-requested documents (which tentatively won’t be released until sometime after 2014) comes to mind.


    Libraries, you will recall, are playgrounds for terrorists—which is why George W. Bush and Dick Cheney made sure the that PATRIOT Act empowered the FBI to rummage through library records with impunity and without a warrant, confidentiality be damned. But now that there’s a lawsuit seeking records from their presidential libraries, Bush and Cheney are hiding behind the Librarian’s Code.
    …it’s a bit rich for the architects of a law that the American Library Association called “a present danger to the constitutional rights and privacy rights of library users” to be invoking those very privacy rights once someone wants to know what they’ve been reading at the library.  Source

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    Ted & Hellen says:


    And idjits gonna be idjits.

    amk, you have such an objective and reliably non tribal view of Obama…perhaps you could enlighten the group as to how my comments indicated idiocy. Thanks.

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    TriassicSands says:

    I’ve never stopped despising Jeb.

    And George.

    And George H. W.

    And Neil.

    And Barbara.

    And Laura.

    They all give me the creeps.

    George W. most of all.

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    Hill Dweller says:

    @Ted & Hellen: They don’t talk honestly about him now. What difference will three years make?

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    amk says:

    @Ted & Hellen: Yeah, he so wants to be in that elite club and that’s why they are knee-capping him at every turn. Fuckin’ idjit.

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    MikeJ says:

    @hamletta: It actually sounds like something /b/ would do to troll the media.

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    I wonder how much of that is more consultant grift.

    Do you really need to ask?

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    hamletta says:

    @MikeJ: Maybe, but they wouldn’t go back in time and start a One Direction Tumblr a year ago.

    And then there’s the guy who says he went to school with him and is using that connection to boost his nascent rap career.

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    BARF. I just had one of my Irish relatives post this load of shit on his Facebook timeline, with the comment “well said”.

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    Yutsano says:

    @The prophet Nostradumbass: Holy Jeebus. I just…I just can’t. Where’s my damn TARDIS? I’m done with this rock.

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    Alison says:

    Sooo…anyone here watch Project Runway?

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    @Yutsano: I used to think it was great that I was able to connect to my extended family via Facebook, being so far away from all of them. Some of them are very nice, and I cherish them, but some of them are, unfortunately, beneath contempt, real shits: racists, homophobes, and Catholic-haters.

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    hamletta says:

    #InfoWarsPickupLines is trending on Twitter at the moment, and it’s a laff riot!

    “That wasn’t a false flag you just raised”

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    Spaghetti Lee says:


    I found that article earlier today and it made me want to punch things. Yeah, yeah, teenage girls, probably will grow out of it, blah blah. It’s still pretty fucking messed up. And in the comments there was some dimwit talking about her James Holmes fandom and bitching at people who were ‘judging’ her.

    Tumblr’s fandom sites are where decency goes to die. It’s all the banality of Facebook with all the viciousness of 4chan.

  46. 46
    David Koch says:

    @Alison: why, what did Heidi do?

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    Yutsano says:

    @The prophet Nostradumbass: Some of the extended family are surprising me, especially the wingnut cousin who still lives off the SS money he gets because of his blind dad. But he’s a slow learner I guess.

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    Chris says:

    @The prophet Nostradumbass:

    On most days I don’t believe in collective credit or collective guilt for any group.

    But fucking fuck, does that long procession of blind, entitled, petulant, smug, self absorbed, and yes, RACIST windbags cheering on that post ever make me ashamed to be white.

    This really is why we can’t have nice things.

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    TenguPhule says:

    We will not have peace until the last Bush is strangled with the Entrails of the Last Cheney.

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    Dan says:

    Don’t worry about it, everybody. 10 days to the 10th anniversary of Mission Accomplished!

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    mai naem says:

    I heard it was $250 million not $500.250 mil. blew me away. We had a pretty big building(multistory -1 mil square feet)in a high demand area in Phoenix go for $150 mil a few months ago.I know $250 mil includes labor and the contents of the building but still…

  52. 52
    weaselone says:

    @mai naem:

    The extra cost is due to the copious amounts of whitewash needed.

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    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    Republican urgency to rehabilitate the Bush name is completely understandable. Look what happened to them the last couple of times they nominated a not-Bush for the presidency.

    Any similarities between the GOP, its base, and the Knights Who Say “Ni” are to be studiously ignored.

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    Fort Geek says:

    @PeakVT: Isn’t a pretty hefty chunk of that $500 million taxpayer money? ISTR seeing a figure in the last week of $200 million paid by the American people.

    An idea to generate revenue: as the Bushies (and his administration) die out, send their remains not to Gunther von Hagens, but to his Chinese counterparts (outsourcing!!) to be preserved and presented in amusing and humiliating ways–like depicting a Bush refusing taxpayer money, a Bush standing stalwart against torture and illegal wars…you know, being responsible human beings.

    Set up the exhibit in Fratboy’s Lieberry. Proceeds go to getting wingnuts into mental health treatment.

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    Jennifer says:

    If Dickens were still alive and writing a novel about the Bush years, it would begin with “It was the worst of times; it was the worst of times.”

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    gene108 says:


    Watched Washington Journal this a.m. First topic was “should US intervene in Syria” because Syria has been accused of using chemical weapons.

    Both Dems and Reps were vehemently opposed to US intervention. Neo-cons and neo-con wars are not very popular it seems.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    I’ma gonna repeat a comment I made last night regarding GWB.

    Gah! Gah! Gah! I’d hoped I’d never have to hear from Dubya again…..this lieberry thing is driving me ’round the bend.

    Just Go Away, por favor.

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    brendancalling says:


    I cannot stand to look at that fuckhead’s stupid shit face. Just his image sends me into a Tourette episode.

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    PaulW says:

    I’ve got other personal reasons to hate Jeb.

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    Ted & Hellen says:


    Yeah, he so wants to be in that elite club and that’s why they are knee-capping him at every turn. Fuckin’ idjit.

    He’s already in, you willfully ignorant ass.

    I mean, I realize ALL you care about is BO’s political career, the country be damned, but Christ…

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