Lu Lingzi was a graduate student from China. I hope that the right thinks of this before they start the inevitable hate-the-furners stuff again.
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Lu Lingzi was a graduate student from China. I hope that the right thinks of this before they start the inevitable hate-the-furners stuff again.
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El Caganer
They won’t.
4tehlulz
>right thinks
lol
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
@El Caganer:
What El Caganer said.
maurinsky
It’s already too late for that.
paleotectonics
Not a chance – we’ll be lucky if they don’t make her a suspect and call for a crackdown on Chinese Muslims.
strandedvandal
They will blame her for getting caught in her own bomb blast.
Cassidy
Yeah. I think we went beyond that already.
dmbeaster
Glen Beck should jump on the opportunity to open his Chinese subsidiary for his Hate the Islamofacists franchise.
Then the Chinese can declare war on some Middle Eastern country not responsible for the terror attack.
BGinCHI
The Chinese are all Muslims.
Little-known FoxFact.
Ninedragonspot
The surname should either have an umlaut, “Lü”, or, following new romanization practices, be spelled “Lv”.
Villago Delenda Est
Doug, you’re such a comedian. You should go into stand-up!
SatanicPanic
@BGinCHI: correction- Atheist Muslims.
BGinCHI
@SatanicPanic: Secular Atheist Muslims?
greennotGreen
@Ninedragonspot: Transliteration of Chinese into English is already a disaster; those rules would just make it worse. How in the world would an English speaker know how to pronounce “Lv”?
Also, I thought the victim’s family had asked for anonymity.
Villago Delenda Est
@BGinCHI:
Socialist secular atheist Muslims.
Schlemizel
I believe their question will be “Why did we let this furiner in?”
JPL
The little boy who died help up a sign in tribute to Treyvon Martin. Since the sign has been featured on several news shows, I am surprised that the whackos haven’t complained.
Mike in NC
@JPL: The day is young.
Yutsano
BWAHAHAHAHA!! Oh that’s funny! They NEED their furriner hate. They need an ebil boogeyman. Otherwise their whole foreign policy schtick falls apart.
Citizen_X
Between this attack and the Atlanta Olympic Park bombing, it’s like “Come to America, to study, compete in an international event, or watch one. And we’ll kill you.”
I know international terrorist attacks can happen anywhere. But IF this was domestic, does any other developed country have such a problem with their homegrown crazies?
FlyingToaster
The ‘wingers will blame the Bay State for having foreign students wandering around free. I’m dreading flying home to Boston on Friday; the usual security Noh will fail to entertain my five-year-old WarriorGirl.
— from my iPhone
Soonergrunt
Multiple streets blocked off and buildings evacuated in downtown OKC.
From local TV news channel 9:
They haven’t completed clearing the truck or the surrounding area at this time.
OKC PD are rather cautious right now for the aforementioned reasons.
SatanicPanic
@Villago Delenda Est: Socialist secular atheist Muslim Nazis.
Soonergrunt
@Citizen_X: Yes. Yes they do.
Anders Brevik in Norway springs immediately to mind.
Nativism and racism are not exclusive to the US, nor are they even exclusive to people of European extraction. Before we invaded Afghanistan, the Taliban, almost exclusively ethnic Pashtuns, were beginning a war of extermination against the Hazara minority, as well as their usual Sunni vs. Shiite business.
maya
Any Murdock mandated mutterings of middle-eastern guilt in this matter are purely occidental.
Ninedragonspot
@greennotGreen: They would learn the same way Americans have always learned to pronounce funny-sounding foreign words. Did you have great difficulties learning to pronounce the Spanish “ñ”? There is a difference in Chinese between Lu and Lü. We can at least do the victim the honor of spelling her name correctly.
jayboat
@SatanicPanic:
Zombie Socialist secular atheist Muslim Nazis.
Villago Delenda Est
@Soonergrunt:
Not to scare anyone or anything, but Friday is the 20th anniversary of the Branch Davidian compound fire, which was commemorated by killing a whole bunch of people who had nothing at all to do with it two years later by Timothy McVeigh and his wackaloon christianist comrades.
Villago Delenda Est
@jayboat:
Kenyan zombie socialist secular atheist Muslim Nazis.
greennotGreen
@Ninedragonspot: I agree, if that’s the way she spelled her name. I actually don’t know any Chinese who use that spelling, but in my academic environment, that may be a limitation imposed by our network not being to recognize a diacritic.
Ninedragonspot
@greennotGreen: Might be.
Anya
If the victim was from a Muslim country everyone would’ve assumed she was a bomber.
GregB
Much of Europe had some pretty frightful domestic terrorist action in the 60’s and 70’s.
Red Brigades, IRA, Baader-Meinhoff, Basque separatists…
JCT
Yup — fulfilling a dream to complete her PhD at a fine Boston university – likely took considerable effort on her part to get this far and gets blown up while watching a quintessential Boston sporting event. What a terrible waste.
I’m surprised the right wing assholes haven’t suggested that she was somehow involved, much less developed insight into their xenophobia.
Mnemosyne
@Ninedragonspot:
Probably a dumb question (especially since I have enough trouble pronouncing English sometimes), but how does the pronunciation of Lu with an umlaut differ from how you pronounce it if you spell it Lu or Liu?
Ninedragonspot
@greennotGreen: See also here and here.
Ninedragonspot
@Mnemosyne: Not a dumb question. Let Yangyang help you!
Mnemosyne
@Ninedragonspot:
Most Americans seeing that would pronounce it as “Liv,” like Liv Tyler.
Cris (without an H)
We need to tighten immigration to protect foreign nationals from getting killed over here.
Ninedragonspot
@Mnemosyne: Yes, until they learned differently. Just as they did with Rep. Boehner.
Anya
RIP Lü Lingzi!
Mnemosyne
@Ninedragonspot:
I pronounce that “Boner.” Is there another way it’s supposed to be pronounced? I’ve heard it at least three different ways.
Mnemosyne
@Ninedragonspot:
Okay, yeah, even after watching the video I’m still not getting why “v” is supposed to be pronounced “oo.” Wouldn’t a better English transliteration be “Loo” or “Lou”? I guess the first one would be problematic in British-speaking countries.
I also don’t get why the Gaelic “Catriona” is properly pronounced “Katrina,” either, so I have problems with transliterations from most languages that use the Latin alphabet to pronounce things differently. Irish is a giant PITA.
Ninedragonspot
@Mnemosyne: it’s not quite the language of Goethe, but hereis how he has it pronounced.
rb
More kids and young people paying the price. Not that anyone deserves it, but this makes it all the more enraging. I’ve been pleasantly not-surprised at the degree to which people are holding it together around here. Grateful for the minor comfort that has been the president, BAA and – hell – Stephen Colbert for setting a resolute tone.
Ninedragonspot
@Mnemosyne: The “v” is because many people hate being bothered to type diacritics.
LarryB
It’s probably too soon, but am I the only one who said “Village People!” to themselves when they saw this?
Mnemosyne
@Ninedragonspot:
Heh. I come from a city that pronounces that name as “GOth” and has another street that’s spelled “Paulina” but pronounced “Paul-eye-na.”
This may be part of the source of my problem.
Mnemosyne
@Ninedragonspot:
I should probably also point out that I have an unusual European name that NO ONE — including some of my relatives — is able to pronounce correctly, so I do make a point of trying to pronounce people’s names correctly when they pronounce them for me. But I can never manage to properly translate diacritics in my head. I’ve only managed the Spanish one because I’ve lived in California for so many years.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@LarryB: No. No, you are not.
That’s the first shot I’ve seen that’s large enough for me to tell what the cop in the middle is doing with his hands.
Soonergrunt
@Villago Delenda Est: There are some parts of the country where LEO and federal agencies are ACUTELY aware of the upcoming anniversary.
Calouste
@Citizen_X: It will be another decade before USOC should even bother to put in a bid on the Olympics.
wuzzat
@Mnemosyne: There are at least 3 commonly accepted spellings of my own Irish surname, depending on who translated it from the original Gaelic. I’d never deign to tell one of my cousins that they were spelling their name wrong. Based on the limited information that I’ve been able to find, it appears that Lingzi spelled it “Lu.” If that is the case, then I think she should get the final say.
ericblair
@Mnemosyne:
I like going to Germany because they pronounce my last name properly. Except I still have to spell it since it got slightly Americanized on the way over (“z” got changed to “tz”).
Boehner is like Koch: there’s a relatively close pronunciation you can use in English, but um. So it’s BAYner and Coke, basically.
My wife’s maiden name is the equivalent of Jane Smith back in the old country, and is considered an unpronounceable minefield here. She abides.
ninedragonspot
@wuzzat: Right you are. Found her facebook page – the URL spells it “Lv”, as you might expect, but she chose a straight “Lu” for her own name. So I have mostly been a distraction on this thread, for which I’m very sorry.
Meg
@greennotGreen:
According to TPM, the source is her old classmate and her hometown newspaper.
terraformer
What a beautiful girl Lu was.
Mnemosyne
Back on topic — the right didn’t bother to think about all of the non-American citizens (including some undocumented workers) who died in the World Trade Center, so they’re sure as hell not going to give a single thought to Ms. Lu.
Thlayli
@Mnemosyne:
You know what they say about Gaelic: it’s spelled with one half of the alphabet and pronounced with the other half.