Today on #TWiBRadio, we watch the editor of Conservative Black Chick, Crystal Wright and Tucker Carlson completely miss the ever-loving point.
And then Glenn Beck and company do not hear the same things we hear:
So Melissa Harris-Perry wants to steal your children if they don’t drown at the hands of incompetent Negroes who just stole your spot at Yale.
I mean, that’s reasonable.
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And this morning on #amTWiB, L.Joy and company discuss the Trayvon Martin settlement, cancer mortality rates in Black women, and making poor kids throw out their school lunches.
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Heliopause
This came up on another blog a couple of days ago so I looked it up. According to this website:
Columbia: Admitted students [class of 2014] identified themselves as 25% Asian/Asian American…14% as African American, 16% as Latin American, and 2% as Native American.
Cornell class of 2015, 22.3% of admitted students identified themselves as underrepresented minorities (Hispanic, African American, Hawaiian or Pacific Islander, or Native American).
Dartmouth College admitted [class of 2015] 44% students of color and 7.3% international students.
Harvard: The admitted class [2015] is 17.8% Asian-American, 11.8% African-American, 12.1% Latino, 1.9% Native American, and 0.2% Native Hawaiian.
Princeton: The class of 2015 self-identified…9.1% as African American; 22% as Asian American; and 9.8% as Hispanic or Latino.
Penn: The admitted class [2015] is 44% Asian, black/African-American, American Indian, and Hispanic/Latino.
Yale: 8.4% of admitted [class of 2014] students identified themselves as African-American, 17.4% as Asian American, 43% as Caucasian, 8.6% as Hispanic, 1.5% as Native American, and 9.8% did not respond to the question.
How come nobody ever gets mad at Asian-Americans?
muddy
“Then again, I didn’t get rejected.” so sweet…. lol
Baud
@Heliopause:
Asians are viewed as testing well rather than benefiting from a school’s diversity policy.
Dacia
@muddy: heh … just the slightest bit of shade.
Omnes Omnibus
@Heliopause: Just play stereotype bingo.
Chris Wolf
Hey, I’m 52 yrs old now.
When I was growing up and wanted to do something really stupid, I knew better than to do it in my own neighborhood. That’s because if I did something stupid within three blocks in any direction, my mom would get several phone calls from several different mothers letting her know that her son was doing something stupid.
So yeah, we all had many moms back then.
RepubAnon
Just wait – before long, Republicans will demand a cap on the number of Asian students being admitted to Ivy League schools, purely to maintain the school’s culture or some such (maybe a “children of alumni guaranteed entry” sort of thing). Just because it gives a leg up to spoiled white kids doesn’t make it a quota or anything bad like that – it’s just a way of preserving traditions.
Nothing racist like helping poor smart kids catch up, you understand, just traditions – like that traditionally segregated high school prom in Georgia isn’t racist.
(/snark, as if anyone needed to be told)
jl
Blacks and Hispanics can’t swim? That is some real old-school seriously real non-junk science that we need more of.
Did they have a segment on white men can’t jump? Surely they could fit that in someplace.
Omnes Omnibus
@RepubAnon: Come on, the Asian kids will spend all their time in the labs and the library. They will keep the grad school admission rates high and they won’t interfere with the life of the university.
jnfr
Man, that whole segregated prom issue is so horrible.
I didn’t realize Trayvon’s parents had reached a settlement. I’m sure it’s not much comfort, but always good to have a legal matter settled.
Walker
@Heliopause:
The admission process at many of those places is actually heavily biased against Asian Americans, believe it or not.
jl
@RepubAnon:
The GOP and their pundits are still in an early stage of grief over the fact that another ‘natural constituency’ of non-rich people won’t vote for them.
I wonder if the GOP timeline of grief for Hispanics and stalwart hard working trade union white males will give a clue on when the GOP gets to the anger stage.
After they get that far, things are very predictable, since they will never get to the ‘acceptance’ stage.
Omnes Omnibus
@jnfr: They only settled with the HOA.
jl
@Walker:
I remember reading a study that said the proportion of Asian Americans at elite and selective schools would be even higher, if admissions departments really adhered to the objective test and grade standards that conservative grievance merchants love so much.
Asians are a complex group, though. It is certainly not true, and kind of insulting, to assume in some vague way that they are a homogeneous group that exemplifies all the reactionaries’ model immigrant fetishes and fantasies.
There are quite a few ‘poors’ and working class. More recent and poorer Vietnamese immigrants are treated much like Hispanics in parts of California, as are Cambodians and Hmongs. Edit: and Filipinos, who may be official Pacific Islander, though the ones I know ID more with SE Asia culturally , aside from the Catholicism thing.
Walker
@jl:
True. And the admissions process is not biased against those students (I am speaking somewhat from experience here). Indeed, it is biased in their favor.
It is not the case that Asians are actively discriminated against as a racial group. It is the case that there are certain admissions criteria that are biased against certain social traits that are disproportionate in a certain segment of the population.
tybee
i always wondered who got my place.
jl
@Walker:
” It is not the case that Asians are actively discriminated against as a racial group. It is the case that there are certain admissions criteria that are biased against certain social traits that are disproportionate in a certain segment of the population. ”
I didn’t mean to imply that there was any discrimination specifically against Asians with high test scores and grades in my comment, and I personally don’t believe that perfectly objective criteria, including grades and test scores, exist in any case.
Groucho48
It’s a program to teach swimming to kids who aren’t lucky enough to have pools at their schools. It is open to anyone, as far as I can tell, and they will still have to compete for the lifeguard positions with all other applicants.
The outrage comes from one of the administrators saying one of the reasons they instituted the program was that public pools in predominately black neighborhoods had to get their predominately white lifeguards from other neighborhoods because there were no facilities to teach swimming skills in the black neighborhoods.
Kind of a microcosm of right wing thought. We should only hire the most qualified for a job but we can’t do anything to help folks who lack access to the training and facilities that are commonly available to the privileged.
Joseph Nobles
That Glenn Beck, man, he’s got a sweet gig.
Mike G
“AZ to hire minority lifeguards who can’t swim”.
A BS claim brought to you by the party that nominated a President who couldn’t think.
Then again, their philosophy is that a POTUS is there to parrot what the behind-the-scenes powers tell him, dish out money to cronies and ramp up the xenophobia, ignorance, hatred and Jeebus-rhetoric whenever it is advantageous; which any monkey could do.
mainmati
@Baud: The stereotype is that Asians are study grunts from middle school on and for some of them that may be true but a lot of Asian Americans are really well assimilated into the American class system. It’s just that most also happen to come from the middle or upper middle classes as a rule so they tend to have the advantages that go with income and an educated home environment. This is also true for African-American and Hispanic families from similar backgrounds. Getting a chance on the middle class makes a huge difference. One reason why the GI Bill, which the GOP hates is so important. It was certainly decisive for my family’s fortune.
Marmot
Yawners
NA
@Heliopause:
They have. They do.
clarence swinney
BLAME GAME
Since 1980
Republican have done these things:
20 years White House control
18 years Senate control
15 years House control
numbers rounded
Took 600B budget to 3500B
1000B Debt to 12,000B
Surplus to 1400B deficit
218,000 new jobs per month to 99,000.
Initiated our involvement in 9 foreign conflicts
Hundreds of thousands of innocents killed
Ruined great middle class Savings and Loans Industry
Repealed Glass-Steagall
Today 5 Big Banks hold 50% of all deposits in about 7000 banks
10 banks hold 80%
Created world’s biggest gambling Casino by 2000 Modernization of Commodities Market
Sent 3,700,000 good American jobs to just China during Bush II administration
after 2000 Open Market agreement with China
Flushed Wealth to top 10% who now own 73% Net Wealth, 83% Financial Wealth, get 43% of individual Income and pay 15% or less Tax Rate. Put 46 million on Food Stamps.
Ruined Housing Industry
Created a Great Recession
Shame on them