Saturday Evening Open Thread: Foreign Travel Is Always Risky

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Doing some housekeeping & this turned up. As my Intro to Anthropology professor told us, it is a fact universally acknowledged that The Tribe Over There is full of lowlife degenerates who eat taboo foods, have sex with their relatives, worship false idols & use entirely too much of the common resources. All else is commentary…

Apart from the universal verities, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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94 replies
  1. 1
    raven says:

    The Shockers poised to pull the upset of the century!

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    Morzer says:

    …it is a fact universally acknowledged that The Tribe Over There is full of lowlife degenerates who eat taboo foods, have sex with their relatives, worship false idols & use entirely too much of the common resources.

    In the interests of fairness and balance, I know one or two Jets fans who don’t eat taboo foods.

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    John Cole says:

    One minute. We may have a new record.

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    Spaghetti Lee says:

    Taboo foods, like…what? Nutella?

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    jeffreyw says:

    Mrs J is making a chocolate soda pop cake.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Spaghetti Lee: Nutella is taboo?!

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    JPL says:

    @John Cole: Wichita State is winning so no one is paying attention..

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    Spaghetti Lee says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I’ve never liked it. It tastes like sour peanut butter to me. I realize this puts me in a minority commonly considered insane.

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    What time is it?


  10. 10
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Spaghetti Lee: More for me.

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    Ultraviolet Thunder says:

    My MIL is over visiting. Just watched the Tigers clobber the Hated Yankees. Again. I like the way this baseball season is starting out.

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    eemom says:

    @John Cole:

    As ye stomp, so shall ye be stomped.

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    La Caterina (Mrs. Johannes) says:

    @Spaghetti Lee: I don’t like Nutella either. Meh.

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    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again) says:

    …lowlife degenerates who eat taboo foods, have sex with their relatives, worship false idols & use entirely too much of the common resources.

    Yep, that’s Indiana and Ohio in a nutshell.

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    Baud says:

    The Tribe Over There

    I hate those guys.

  16. 16
    The Dangerman says:

    Not counting any shockers before they are thatched yet, but last mid-major in the Final Game, IIRC, was Indiana State with Bird. Last Mid-Major to win? Does UTEP count?

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    raven says:

    @The Dangerman: They weren’t UTEP then, they were Texas Western.

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    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again) says:

    @The Dangerman:

    Butler kept it close with Duke in the championship game a few years ago.

    ETA: You might describe the Louisville team from the ’80s a mid-major, too. There’s an argument to be made for it, anyway.

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    Tara the Antisocial Social Worker says:

    Packrat and I were having the usual weekend boredom with cooking the stuff we have all the time. We had frozen chicken breasts and spinach, so I googled around until I found a recipe that used both without requiring a store run for any other ingredients.

    Will let you know if she winds up with botulism or anything.

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    raven says:


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    Cacti says:

    @The Dangerman:

    Butler was the last mid major to make it to the championship game.

  22. 22
    raven says:

    @Cacti: Twiced.

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    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again) says:


    So, what, I’m chopped liver now?

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @John Cole: You deserve it.

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    Took LittleMan home from spring break today. Tiny Dancer was awake long enough for some face time, and I think she likes me. She grinned and there was no gas.

    That’s my story, any way.

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    arguingwithsignposts says:

    Pfft, everyone knows The Tribe at Balloon Juice is full of lowlife degenerates who eat taboo foods, have sex with their relatives, worship false idols & use entirely too much of the common resources. All else is commenters

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    The Dangerman says:


    Butler was the last mid major to make it to the championship game.

    D’OH! Of course. Butler’s run has been long enough I’d forgotten them somehow.

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    raven says:

    @The Dangerman: Twiced.

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    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again) says:


    Then you thirded. Look at #18. :P

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    efgoldman says:

    Well, L’ville has now taken the lead.
    Not a very good sports day/night.
    Overdog is ahead in the hoop (always root for the underdog).
    Broons down 2-0 in Montreal, and looking like its gonna’ get a lot worse.
    Sox got one-hit by an otherwise mediocre Toronto pitcher today. I am afraid it is an augury of the next six months.

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    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again) says:



    I thought you were “seconding”. And I forgot about the second Butler final. Time to go flog myself again.

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    raven says:

    Just let the Ville beat the shit out of them.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):

    Time to go flog myself again.

    Oooh! Can we watch?

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    efgoldman says:


    Just let the Ville beat the shit out of them.

    Front runner!

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    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again) says:


    How much cash have ya got on ya?

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    raven says:

    @efgoldman: I was bitching about their guards.

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    lamh35 says:

    OMG…Becky!!! GIJoe was sooooooo lame! The only saving grace was seeing The Rock in some serious tight military tees. I know steroids are bad for u, but damn when it comes to The Rock, they do a body good!


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    Morzer says:



    I have this special offer on a pair of audience participation tickets.

    Just send me your bank details, credit card number, social security number and address and I’ll send them out to you right away for a very reasonable price.

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    efgoldman says:


    I’ll send them out to you right away for a very reasonable price.

    I just have to look for the envelope with the Lagos postmark, eh.

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    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again):

    Yep, that’s Indiana and Ohio in a nutshell.

    I think you meant Kentucky and West Virginia. As a matter of fact, I’m certain that you did.

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    JPL says:

    So what happened? Why did Louisville get the ball?

  48. 48
    raven says:

    Ah, too bad,

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    efgoldman says:

    Too bad. I got nobody to root for or against on Monday.

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    M31 says:

    One of my favorite vignettes from Herodotus is when a Persian king (Darius or Xerxes, I can’t remember which) demonstrates the power of local custom–he asks some Greeks under what circumstances would they cook and eat the bodies of their deceased parents, and the Greeks reply they would never ever do that for any reason. Darius (in front of them both) then asks some Indians under what circumstances would the NOT cook and eat the bodies of their dead parents and they are equally horrified.

    Good old Herodotus.

  51. 51
    Morzer says:


    You think it’s easy being the fake widow of an undead finance minister?!!

    Bigot! Hater! Obot! Firebagger! Voluntary consumer of French cheeses!

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    raven says:

    @JPL: Jump ball, alternating possession. They had the arrow.

    It should have been a foul but that would have favored the Ville as well.

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    Chris says:


    G. I. Joe in general is a pretty awful franchise, as is Transformers. (Feel free to skewer me, people who remember them fondly from childhood…)

    However, awful franchises can still turn out movies that’re in the “so bad they’re good” range, which is how I ranked the last G. I. Joe. (The previous one, on the other hand, was just plain bad. IMHO, at least).

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    Cassidy says:

    @Spaghetti Lee: Vegemite

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    efgoldman says:


    Bigot! Hater! Obot! Firebagger! Voluntary consumer of French cheeses!

    All except the French cheeses part, for sure.
    But you forgot fascist muslim commie.

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    Morzer says:


    I am willing to do a certain amount of typing for freedom, but c’mon, all those extra derogatory epithets?! Seriously?!

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    efgoldman says:


    …all those extra derogatory epithets?! Seriously?!

    Tough job, but someone’s gotta’ do it.

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    Cacti says:

    Evangelical big shot Rick Warren’s son has committed suicide. 27 years old.

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    The Dangerman says:

    Well, I can skip Monday night unless Michigan wins; I love the Kevin Ware story, but he was on TV far, FAR too much today.

    Cardinals had their scare and they survived. Good for them, they ARE a solid team (though I think Smith travels on occasion, but maybe I can’t count tonight, either).


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    danielx says:

    Dealing with one of those all-out viral assaults that makes you feel like you’re slightly out of phase with reality, although that could be the Dayquil as well. If I could just breath through my nose for ten minutes…it’s the little things in life.

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    Morzer says:


    Plus, did you know that he proved that socialist redistribution and big government (and liberal geometry!) both originated in Africa:

    The priests also told me that Sesostris divided the country among all the Egyptians, giving each man the same amount of land in the form of a square plot. This was a source of income for him, because he ordered them to pay an annual tax. If any of a person’s plot was lost to the river, he would present himself at the king’s court and tell him what had happened; then the king sent inspectors to measure how much land he had lost, so that in the future the man had to pay proportionately less of the fixed tax. It seems to me that this was how geometry as a land-surveying technique came to be discovered and then imported into Greece.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Cacti: Mental illness can strike anyone.

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    raven says:

    @The Dangerman: They let the Ville reach in and bump way too much down the stretch.

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    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again) says:


    Oh, no, I meant what I wrote. I’m sure that Kentucky and West Virginia are special, too, but since there are far fewer of ’em…

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    Corner Stone says:

    @raven: That wasn’t a foul. The guy presented the ball and Hancock had two hands in there. The call could’ve went either way, call the jump ball or let it wrangle a second longer. Either way nobody should be thinking twice about it.

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    Morzer says:


    Try taking a hot shower and breathing in the steam. That might help you feel a bit better.

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    joel hanes says:

    the tribe over there

    The waterhole scene early in 2001, A Space Odyssey is a fine portrayal of much of human history.

    Posturing, insults, acting out, escalating risk-taking; it’s all in good fun until someone picks up a femur.

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    Cacti says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Mental illness can strike anyone.


    This past month, an old friend of mine from high school and college took his own life. He was 35 and had a teenage daughter.

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    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    Flossie and the garden hose

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    waratah says:

    @Cassidy: J am a vegemite baby, also like nutella.

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    Steeplejack says:

    Watching Prometheus on HBO (missed it in the theater) and immediately getting pissed off at the bad science and bad common sense.

    “Hey, according to my $20 wrist sensor, the air’s breathable! Let’s all take our helmets off.”

    (Five minutes later) “Oops, I think we may have affected the atmosphere in the room. Run for it!”

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    Yutsano says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Hehehe! My mom’s border collie does that! THE WATER MUST DIE!!

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    Chris says:


    Whenever you’re done with it… here’s a fairly good review from a blogger I discovered recently about all the religious stuff in the movie – that you might find interesting. (I did. Though I wasn’t wowed by the movie overall either when I saw it).

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    gene108 says:

    WTF is wrong with this blog?

    No Final Four thread…bastards…

    Why does Cole hate college basketball. This is inexcusable.

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    efgoldman says:


    No Final Four thread…bastards…

    Meh. The favorite won the first game, and I guess nobody much cares about two number fours in the other bracket.
    Can’t speak for anyone else, but I’d like it much better if the broadcasters (hoop and f’bawl both) gave more credit to the skill and talent of the players, and less to the coaches.

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    gene108 says:



    Meh? That was a helluva game. Wichita St. got jobbed by a quick whistle at the end.

    The Michigan ‘Cuse game is looking pretty good so far.

    I guess this is one reason, why America is screwed. People don’t know good sporting events, when they stare at them on prime time TV.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @gene108: that wasn’t a quick whistle. completely typical call. made all year long. typical play, typical call.
    The announcers said something about it being quick to gin something up and now every hater in the fucking country latched on to it like the second shooter theory.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    Beer batter spam fries. WWJD?

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    raven says:

    @Corner Stone: Who asked you?

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    Paul Theroux once wrote a travelogue about the New York City subway in which he observed that everyone thought their subway line was the only safe one, and all others were instant death.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @raven: when was the last time I waited for a chump like you to send an invitation to refute your utter bullshit?

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    raven says:

    @Corner Stone: go fuck yourself dope

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    Steeplejack says:


    Just got done with it a little while ago. It is a profoundly stupid movie, and I am flabbergasted that the Irish blogger Darren (a) wasted so much overwrought prose on its threadbare “religious” subtext and (b) rated it number 5 on his list of the year’s best movies. Ugh. I feel stupider for having watched it.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @raven: who asked you?

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    Xjmueller says:

    My intro to anthro prof said there’s one rule of field work; always boil the water. No matter how far upstream you are, there’s always someone further upstream pissing in it. Words to live by.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Steeplejack: I felt that no matter what I had said in warning you would watch it anyway.
    But it is a truly awful movie with nothing and no one you would ask to survive the event.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Corner Stone:

    I’m still soaking in it. The Weyland Corporation apparently has worse security (and worse hiring practices) than a second-rate strip club, and for Dr. Shaw to be the lone survivor after fucking up every step of the way was a travesty. And what a total waste of Charlize Theron. I hope she was able to pay off the beach house or something.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Suffern ACE:

    Beer batter spam fries

    I find your ideas intriguing, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    Whatever you think about Ted Rall’s abilities as an artist/cartoonist, I remember listening to him on some LA radio station (KFI, I think) back in the day and he was always saying the ‘stan’s was where the shit was gonna go down.

    He even led several bus tours through Central Asia for a some listeners who signed up for the ride. Well, you can read about it here!

    eta: FYI, currently watching Airplane! on HBFw (whatever the hell that is). Just started on the left coast!

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    mainmati says:

    I’ve spent most of my adult life living and working in those funky countries. And in most of them, especially the larger countries with polyethnic populations, it’s not just the next country that’s perceived weird/alien, it’s the next province which might have a different ethnic group. Pakistan is actually a very good example of this but a lot of other countries, especially in Africa fall into this category.

    However, the globalization phenomenon, specifically the Internet and global trade has reduced this xenophobic tendency somewhat, at least in coastal and other large cities. Still, it is pretty common and not likely going away anytime soon, since it is a part of our fundamental legacy (territoriality, family, clan).

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    chris y says:

    @mainmati: We’re making progress though. Back in the day the next tribe had tails.

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    @mainmati: True in India too. If you go from one state to another, even the language changes and if you are away from the metros or touristy areas, they don’t speak much English and if you are in the South, not much Hindi either. So it is hand gesture time..

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    ursine says:

    My wife and I were on a far eastern trip in which we started in Thailand and then went to Vietnam. The Thais we mentioned this to universally gave us the same disgusted look a New Yorker would give you if you told him you were planning to spend the weekend in Newark.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    The Tribe Over There is full of lowlife degenerates who … have sex with their relatives

    It’s not mean if it’s true… right?

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