Who is Responsible for Steubenville?

Is there another way to talk about the Steubenville rape case? On Wednesday’s #TWiBRadio, we delve into the politics of rape culture and societal culpability in curbing sexual violence, practicing feminism versus being a feminist, and punching George W. Bush in the junk.

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12 replies
  1. 1
    LittlePig says:

    Thanky, Elon.

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    catclub says:

    Entitled football players. Who knew.

    Frank Deford was reporting that various school districts have rules for musicians: “If you do not support the football team by being in the marching band, you cannot do any other musical extra-curricular activities.”

    No jazz band, no symphonic band without supporting the jocks.

    I would not be surprised if my town’s Board of Education is thinking of adopting those rules.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @catclub:

    Frank Deford was reporting that various school districts have rules for musicians: “If you do not support the football team by being in the marching band, you cannot do any other musical extra-curricular activities.”

    Sadly, the logic might work the other way. The schools were able to leverage support for music programs by saying that it was the way to provide a marching band. Same end result, but, I think, a different thought process.

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    red dog says:

    Most of these smaller cities have nothing but their football teams to be excited about so the players become idols under the Friday Night Lights to young and old alike so if you connect something to the football program it will become a way for your family to be connected. players, cheerleaders, band, pep squad etc.

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    catclub says:

    @red dog: And these are all people who ( I am mostly blaming the adults) who hear “it gets better” and get angry. It is always sad to realize someone had their best years in high school, and want to keep everything like that. gah.

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    My wife and I were discussing the CNN article from yesterday regarding the victim’s “friends” and other people who saw the victim in bad shape having a duty to help prevent. My wife takes that duty seriously. She’s in the alcohol biz and when she was out in the field more, she would keep an eye out for girls in bad shape. I remember a bunch of instances (all around closing time for the bars) where she would approach a very drunk girl being shepherded by some random dude and have a quick conversation with her to make sure she was OK, that she knew the guy and to offer a ride. Things got awkward and hostile from time to time but my wife did what she felt she had to do and I supported her.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    Who is responsible for the rapes? The rapists. Can arguments be put forward that there was/is a toxic culture surrounding sports programs? Sure. But that culture didn’t rape the girl; the rapists did.

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    Ben Franklin says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Of course the rapists are responsible. But why were they so cavalier? Have they been held accountable by anyone amongst family and friends in the past.? They say serial killers begin as animal torturers. If this was recognized and treated early, maybe it would save a life or two.

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    Keith G says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Again, as usual, you are right on the mark.

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    Paul in KY says:

    @Ben Franklin: They (the rapists) definitely thought it was all a big joke at the beginning & that their status as football players would insulate them.

    If the allegations against the head coach are true, he should be fired & charged with hindering prosecution (at least).

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    Cassidy says:

    Elon, I just want to say that I don’t listen to the audio and I wish I felt like I had more time to do so. I think you have some very good commentary in the comments and really wish I could devote more to what you’re producing.

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    stoned stats says:

    Mayhaps I’m too stoned, but I cannot get my browser to play TWIB. I REALY think I’d like it, but it won’t play on my Asus tab. Help! Thanks!

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