What is a ‘good shooting?’

#TeamBlacknessAlpha made another appearance on Current TV’s Viewpoint last night to discuss the community anger over the actions of the NYPD and the shooting death of 16-year-old Kimani Gray.

On today’s #TWiBRadio, it’s Pi Day! Also, we revisit the issue of the Michelle Williams “native american” comment and we continue our coverage of the aftermath of the Kimani Gray shooting.

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17 replies
  1. 1
    Cacti says:

    Good shooting:

    White cop shoots black male with bullets.

    Bad shooting:

    Hired help shoots video of Mitt Romney saying how much he hates the poors.

  2. 2
    JWL says:

    A good shooting is when a cop believes her life is in danger, accordingly fires her gun in self defense, and the perp is ascertained to have indeed possessed a weapon.

  3. 3

    Whatever internal affairs says it is.

  4. 4
    scav says:

    @JWL: And sometimes cellphones count as weapons. And that case was a white guy working late at his own store, in a smallish city no less. Go figure.

  5. 5
    JWL says:

    @scav: No doubt about that. Cops make mistakes, because cops possess a survival instinct too.

  6. 6
    Baud says:

    This post reminds me of another story that the blogs seem to have ignored (Politico link):

    U.S. weighs in favor of right to record police

    The Justice Department is urging a court to affirm individuals’ rights to record police under the First Amendment, filing a statement of interest in support of a journalist suing over his arrest while photographing Maryland officers.

    In the statement filed this week in a federal court in Maryland, the Justice Department argues that not only do individuals have a First Amendment right to record officers publicly doing their duties, they also have Fourth and 14th Amendment rights protecting them from having those recordings seized without a warrant or due process. The DOJ urges the court to uphold these rights and to reject a motion to dismiss from Montgomery Co. in Garcia v. Montgomery Co., a case that has implications for an increasing crop of litigation on the subject in the era of ubiquitous smartphones.

  7. 7
    Ben Franklin says:

    A good shooting is many AR-15’s firing simultaneously at suspected newspaper delivery girls.

    Because a good cop will do anything, and anyone to get a rogue cop.


  8. 8
    Baud says:

    OT, but this is awesome (via Reddit):

  9. 9
    Keith G says:

    There are no good shootings, never. On occasion a gun is fire in a way in which justification is proved. But even then the shooting is not good.

  10. 10
    PurpleGirl says:

    @scav: The ultimate absurdity is that a wallet could be a gun and get you shot upwards of 30 times with 20 or so bullets hitting you.

  11. 11
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Baud: Good.

  12. 12
    scav says:

    @Keith G: keep firm track of simultaneous tongue placement.

    and huzzah for more shoes moving toward the edge! FL probe to focus next on campaign money

    The investigation involved 57 arrest warrants and 54 search warrants issued in Florida and five other states: South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Nevada and Pennsylvania. At least 49 people were arrested; several defendants were to make their first appearance Thursday in Seminole County Court.

    Bondi said that when charges are formally filed next week, they will include racketeering, conspiracy, money laundering and possession of slot machines.

    Records showed Allied Veterans paid at least $490,000 to Florida lobbyists between 2009 and 2012. International Internet Technologies, the software company that investigators said created the products used at the gambling centers, spent more than $1.2 million on Florida lobbyists during that same period. All of International Internet Technologies’ Florida lobbyists resigned Wednesday.

    Florida campaign records also showed International Internet Technologies has poured in nearly $500,000 into campaign accounts since 2009, including more than $230,000 to the Republican Party of Florida and $60,000 to the Florida Democratic Party.

    sorry, I’m giddy, I went long

  13. 13
    Keith G says:

    @scav: While tongues can easily be “cheeked” here, four or five hundred million of our neighbors use terms like: “He/She must have been doing something wrong or she wouldn’t have been in the position.”


    “Saved the tax payers some money. One less punk to throw in jail.”

  14. 14
    RepubAnon says:

    Ah, if only the kid had had a gun – he could have protected himself… Oh, wait, having a gun is what got him killed.

    This death shows the futility of carrying a gun for self-defense. Some plainclothes guys say “Police, hands up!” Muggers, or cops? Either way, they’ve probably got the drop on you. Plus, in Florida, they can say that they were “standing their ground” when they shot you.

  15. 15
    MJ says:

    Thanks for posting this. Bloomberg’s “shoot first” police department is a complete mess.

  16. 16
    Odie Hugh Manatee says:

    I think cops believe that a good shooting is one that Internal Affairs says was justified.

    Which means almost all of them.

  17. 17
    scav says:

    @Keith G: Tongue placement is pretty much why I enjoy posting here rather than dealing with many dodgier meatspace neighbors. Droning conventional pieties in the usual terms is draining.

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