Spent the entire day DYING from a sinus infection. Going from 75 in Austin to 30 up here to 70 for two days and now back to thirty put the shithammer on my sinus activity. I briefly considered taking the DeWalt to my temple.
Watched the Life of Pi yesterday, which I was totally prepared to hate but ended up really enjoying. It really is visually stunning, and if you pretend that Richard Parker is actually Tunch, it makes sense. But it was just a beautiful sensory experience, and this comes from someone who hated Avatar. As I wrote elsewhere, the Life of Pi was visually Koyaanisqatsi for middle-aged squares.
Just stabbed myself in the meat of my palm while cleaning and sharpening knives, so I need to go dress this again. See you tomorrow unless I bleed out.
Sorry to step on you, Doug.
aimai
Weird. We tried to watch the Life of Pi tonight, via itunes or apple, and it just wouldn’t download. We ended up watching an episode of Leverage which, fo rsome reason, did download. John! You are our secret sharer.
Baud
It was nice knowing you, John.
Sandia Blanca
That’s the Cole we know and love!
catclub
“visually Koyaanisqatsi for middle-aged squares.”
I have no idea what this means.
The music or the movie?
Violet
Loved the book. Interested in seeing the movie, but haven’t been motivated to see many films at all recently.
Knives are dangerous. Hope you heal quickly. I had to go to the ER once when a knife cut wouldn’t stop bleeding.
catclub
“Just stabbed myself in the meat of my palm while cleaning and sharpening knives,”
That will teach you not to also text while doing that.
Concerned Citizen
Life of Pi was amazing. I thought I would hate it too, but it was amazing. I think one has to know abuse to understand it, but it’s wicked good.
BruceFromOhio
Psuedofed. Compressed bandages and ice. Ibuprofen. A snort or two of Jim Beam Black might do the trick.
ETA: Life of Pi was pretty good. Some good quotes, too. “I’m a Hindu Catholic. I get to feel guilty before hundreds of gods.”
Comrade Mary
Just another low-stress night Chez Cole.
Punchy
Dogsitting 3 additional greys in addition to our 2. 5 greyhounds total, plus 2 rats, a wife, and a 1.4yr old. Life just got real…
Omnes Omnibus
They let you have KNIVES?!
The prophet Nostradumbass
Hs anyone gotten a good look at the comet that’s supposed to be visible in the west?
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
Did you ever watch the Avatar TV series? My family and I really enjoy the TV series. My middle son made it two minutes into the movie before he quit watching it.
VFX Lurker
Life of Pi is one of those VFX miracles that may never get repeated, since Hollywood seems hell-bent on tearing apart VFX crews and infrastructure right now. Rhythm & Hues won an Oscar for the digital animals and water in that film, but the 26-year old VFX house may not survive the year.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Sandia Blanca: Yeah, all we need for him to do now is go Galt so he will post 5 or 6 times.
burnspbesq
Has it ever occurred to you to hire professionals to do the things which seem to lead inexorably to injury for you?
PeakVT
Sorry to step on you, Doug.
Throwing in the Lily pic made it okay.
Todd
Snort spray Afrin. It burns like a motherfucker, but will draw in the swelling and drainage.
Comrade Mary
@burnspbesq: Shhhh! Some of us don’t have cable, OK? John fills an entertainment niche.
Suzanne
@Todd: Don’t spray Afrin. The rebound congestion is even worse. Get Flonase.
Soonergrunt
@burnspbesq: but that would have him paying people to bring him glasses of water, and pushing him to the bathroom for showers and toilet breaks. The man breaks himself so often, doing such mundane things, that he’d bankrupt himself in a week if he had to hire out every task that was dangerous for him.
MikeJ
@VFX Lurker: From outside the biz this makes no sense. It looks like the only important thing in movies these days is VFX. Are they just trying to commoditize it?
Ultraviolet Thunder
Got home from work at 10:30 pm. Have to be at the airport in 8 hours. With luck I’ll be home Sunday night in time to get some sleep before work Monday.
Lotsa hours on the clock. They say ‘Don’t live on the overtime’. With a schedule like this who has time to live?
Yutsano
@Belafon (formerly anonevent): That movie is a horrific atrocity that M. Night Shalyman should have never even glanced at, much less directed. The Avatar series (both iterations) are totally awesome and amazingly well-done. But the Book of Fire is too short, but I think that had to do with the character actor who did Iroh died.
Elizabeth
You need to try Astepro (azelastine HCI), a fairly new prescription antihistamine spray. Your Doc may even have a free sample.
No connection, except it saved my life and sanity.
It is powerful, no steroids, and it puts me directly to sleep, but isn’t that where I wanna be when I hurt like that?
It’s my magic bullet, and solves the problem. It would be great if it did that for you, too!
My sympathies. Sinus stuff is simply agonizing.
Alison
Koyaanisqatsi! Shit, I loved that weird ass thing. Saw it totally by chance – years ago, living with my (now) ex, we wandered into this little indie video store across the street from our apartment, browsing around with no idea what we wanted to rent. They had Koyaanisqatsi on the “staff picks” shelf (this was in Santa Cruz, which should explain it) and we read the description and thought, this is either going to be awesome or awful but awful in a HAHAHA OMG THIS IS THE WORST EVER AND IT’S GREAT way, so we went for it. And it was awesome.
Whenever I try to recommend it to people though, they look at me, while I’m attempting to describe it, like they’re half a second away from calling up the loony bin.
jl
Well, at least Cole is happy now, while he slowly maims and dismembers himself by accident while puttering around the house doing chores. That is some small, but real, consolation.
Good luck with the sinuses. I only get sinus trouble after flu if my head gets stopped up. So, it must be a real pain in the neck to go through that hell just because of temperature changes.
danielx
In order to get away from gross topics* like draining sinuses, mine included…I’ve been wondering what on earth has happened to those demons who were being properly pilloried in the public view, oh, two years ago. I refer, of course, to those banes of public morals and drains on the public treasury…public school teachers. Have these menaces been stamped out? I have seen very little abusive commentary on these creatures in the media of late, and I’ve been wondering whether they’ve been appropriately dealt with or whether any are still alive and draining taxpayer veins with their Satan-directed dedication to their students.
Is there any word from Scott Walker on this? Inquiring minds want to know.
*Forget draining sinuses, ever since I heard my physician in-laws telling doc war stories about draining liver abscesses I haven’t complained about anything having to do with bodily fluids.
Omnes Omnibus
@Elizabeth:
So it is a lot like Ny-quil?
Suzanne
@Elizabeth: Jus never do Rhinocort. First two listed side effects are “frequent nosebleeds” and “sores in the nose that are slow to heal”. I found those out the hard way. I credit Flonase with saving my sanity.
danielx
Also, too – I heart Charlie Pierce. I should live so long.
ellennelle
ang lee is a genius. i was most impressed by how beautifully he captured the story, which itself is truly stunning.
lee does what we say about a lot of actors, he inhabits the story. did the same with brokeback mountain and crouching tiger.
as for the visual effects, i too appreciated that the 3D was so subtle and seamless; it did not distract from the film but truly enhanced it.
not sure as i’d put it in the same category as koyaanisqatsi, tho; that is a class in and of itself, altogether. (had the distinct pleasure of witnessing that film with philip glass group doing live sound track; totally awesome!)
glad you enjoyed it. now, what to do about stuffed head and bleeding palm?
Omnes Omnibus
@ellennelle:
Is that the long awaited sequel to Crouching Tiger…?
JoyfulA
Anybody have any suggestions for someone who wants to “learn programming”? What programming language? A good online tutorial?
This person would be essentially doing it for fun. If learning it well would have decent job ramifications for the future, that would be even better.
Any suggestions from all the programmers in these parts?
Todd
@Suzanne:
Never got rebound from Afrin. It works like a charm for me – bypasses sore throat, laryngitis, the works, and has been great for 10-15 years.
I did get it from Neosynephrine, and that was a miserable fucking week in steroid sprays and raging sinus headaches while the condition eased off.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@danielx: I was always waiting for Romney to make pretty much that speech to the Republican primary crowd that hated him, from the voters to his fellow candidates, and to finish with TinaFey-esque “Willard OUT!” I wonder if he wishes he had done that now
Mnemosyne
ENTs recommend alternating cold and hot compresses — 10 minutes on, 10 minutes off.
Also, sinus troubles and migraines are closely related, so what you may have there is a migraine. Try Excedrin or, if you don’t have any, take one Tylenol and one aspirin with a cup of coffee.
patrick II
@ John
Austin looks like it was a lot of fun. Is that Selena Gomez sitting on your lap?
VFX Lurker
@MikeJ:
Scott Squires does a good job laying out the problem at his “Effects Corner” blog. VFX Soldier also does a good job on his blog. Here’s my Cliff Notes version:
One problem is that VFX houses do not profit from most of the films that they create. Weta Digital and ILM do not collect residuals from Avatar, and Rhythm & Hues does not collect residuals from Babe, Narnia or Golden Compass.
Another pressure on VFX shops are fixed bids. If a VFX challenge turns out to be more expensive than initially expected to solve, the VFX shop must eat the cost. If Warner Bros rams through a change order and decides not to pay for it, the VFX shop eats the cost.
Another problem facing California VFX shops is competition from VFX shops in areas with government-subsidized VFX. An artist worth $2000/week in Los Angeles costs Hollywood $2000/week. The same artist in Montreal costs Hollywood only $800/week, while the taxpayers of Montreal pay for the remaining $1200/week. In order to compete with the 60%-off discount offered by Montreal, a shop in Los Angeles has to deliver the same quality of work for 60%-off or less. This, in an industry that has 5% profit margins on its best days.
danielx
@patrick II:
Should. Not. Have. Followed. That. Link.
joel hanes
Cole :
second for Flonase
But do this too:
get in the shower, stand with it running
directly over your forehead and face
turn it up as hot as you can stand.
Cover your mouth with a hand so you can :
inhale slowly through the mouth,
exhale slowly through the nose;
ten slow deep breaths
Take it slowly; don’t hyperventilate and pass out.
Then flatten one side of the nose to seal that nostril
and blow the other _gently_ for an entire exhalation
switch nostrils
your sinuses will thank you.
Omnes Omnibus
I was once told that the best cold cure was this:
1. Run as hot a bath as one can stand.
2. Place a bottle of whiskey or brandy and a glass within reach of the tub.
3. Undress and get in tub.
4. Pour a glass of whiskey or brandy and sip it.
5. Continue the the pouring and sipping until the water has become tepid.
6. Get out of tub and dry off.
7. Go to bed.
Supposedly one will wake up in the morning symptomless and refreshed.
danielx
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Could be. I kept wondering during that period of madness what the Marquis was thinking: “What do I have to do to please these assholes, bite the heads off live bats on stage? Advocate the public flogging and hanging of anyone who uses birth control or receives unemployment benefits? Not that I give a shit, they’re all hellbound Gentiles, but I am supposed to be President, goddamnit!”
I think I’m channeling Lewis Black lately.
YellowJournalism
Is John live-tweeting the Red Dawn remake? If so, that would be awesome.
gnomedad
Never mind his libido; we need to get this dude a woman before he kills himself.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Omnes Omnibus: sounds like Winston Churchill’s home remedies, but for “Have your man draw a bath…”
Omnes Omnibus
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I did try to tone it down for the hoi polloi.
the Conster
I hate that the Bruins lost that game you’re watching, but momentum swung and that was that. I felt the same way about Life of Pi – I resisted watching it, but loved it, and think about it a lot. Some of the images are breathtaking.
Suzanne
@Todd: My ENT says that if you ever do more than one spray of Afrin per nostril at a time, rebound congestion is all but assured. It does work really fast, but the tingling and sneezing it causes makes me miserable, too. Rebound congestion from Afrin once made me so desperate that I put white vinegar in my sinus bottle and sprayed it up my nose. It felt as good as you think it would.
Doc wants to do surgery but I am reticent. I am tired of my nose fucking up my life, though.
dance around in your bones
Jeebus H. Christ, John Cole – you wound yourself in mysterious ways!
MattR
Watching Brewster’s Millions and wondering if it somehow explains Karl Rove. I’m also realizing how unrealistic the whole thing must sound to a teenager watching it for the first time.
serena1313
FYI:
Ryan let something slip today on C-SPAN that Iam sure he wishes he could take back:
“This to us is something that we’re not going to give up on, because we’re not going to give up on destroying the health care system for the American people.”
(see video here:)
http://
maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/03/12/17286141-ryans-unfortunate-slip?lite
Omnes Omnibus
Unrelated to any of the topics discussed so far in this thread, the only real up-side to my grandmother’s funeral last Friday was the number of people who thought (incorrectly by nearly seven years) that I was the younger of my father’s two sons.
Ash Can
@Omnes Omnibus: I swear that once, some years ago, I beat a light head cold very much that way. But in my case, what I did was to get home after a long day of work, warm up a bowl full of spicy Indian food, take a half-liter beer out of the fridge, and consume the both while soaking in a hot tub. I relaxed and sweated a lot in the tub, went straight to bed and slept through the night, and felt 100% when I woke up the following morning.
Suzanne
@Omnes Omnibus: Hugs. And high-fives.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ash Can: Warm, relaxed, and slightly numbed; sleep comes easily, and the body does the rest. That is the theory. I suspect it is an excuse to get sloshed in the bath.
@Suzanne: Thanks.
? Martin
@VFX Lurker: We’ve got a friend high up at Digital Domains and he summed it up similarly. Most of the critical content layers in the industry are getting a cut of the revenues, but not the VFX shops. Classic race to the bottom scenario, and as usual, everyone goes bankrupt in the end.
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
When G went home for his grandmother’s funeral years ago, none of his relatives recognized him because he’d lost 60 pounds since they had last seen him. So that was one of those good/bad kind of visits.
? Martin
@Omnes Omnibus:
If you keep the drunk/hungover cycle running long enough, who notices the cold?
Mnemosyne
@? Martin:
What they need is a union, but (IMO) there are too many Randians in VFX to make it feasible.
Bubblegum Tate
OK, I’ll be that guy: I thought Life of Pi was horseshit. Some nice visuals, but “the version of the story with the animals is more fun to hear, therefore…god!” had me rolling my eyes out of my head.
handsmile
@Omnes Omnibus:
My sincere condolences on your grandmother’s passing. (While I was aware that she had been seriously ill, I’m just now reading of her death.) I hope you, your family, and your father in particular, are coping reasonably well with this sad occasion.
You had also mentioned something last week of a far happier and promising nature. Any update on that (if you wish)?
Suzanne
@handsmile:
OOOOHHHHH!! What?
? Martin
@Mnemosyne: A union likely wouldn’t help. Unions help individuals with contracts, not entire companies. I don’t see how a union would change the bidding process with the studios.
And the VFX problem isn’t just limited to movies – they do commercials, TV shows, video games – a ton of different stuff. But they aren’t viewed as a talent layer. Talent layers get paid. And unlike audio, which is relatively predictable in terms of costs to do something, VFX can be wildly unpredictable in terms of effort and costs as VFX Lurker notes. So much of what they do, particularly for feature films, has never been done before. There are inherent risks in that. The directors are taking risks by relying so much on the VFX to tell the story, but the rewards aren’t being passed on to the VFX talent.
Anoniminous
@JoyfulA:
Python or good old BASIC.
Mnemosyne
@? Martin:
A union sets the floor under which the studio cannot bid, so having the artists all be part of a union would change the entire bidding process because the companies would no longer be able to underbid each other.
Companies love to think of unions as horrible things, but they can actually help companies since they force them to operate on an equal basis with one another.
Mnemosyne
@? Martin:
EFX artists are a talent layer, but they’re not being paid as a talent layer. That’s why they need a union.
magurakurin
@Alison:
I saw Koyaanisqatsi several times in the early 80’s. Once with a head full of acid at the TLA on South Street in Philly. When the film ended there wasn’t a sound from anyone for nearly a minute. I sort of wondered if everyone else was tripping as well…it was possible,I guess, it was the TLA…
? Martin
@Anoniminous: Python.
It’s widely available and easy to get up and running quickly, and it can branch out into almost anything – hardware interfaces, web programming – you name it. Teaching my son Python and got him a Raspberry Pi. He’s thrilled.
? Martin
@Mnemosyne: But the problem isn’t necessarily that the studio is underpaying the employees. The problem is that they’re underestimating the number of hours needed and the capital costs. These guys have pretty serious computation budgets plus costs for things like motion capture rigs and whatnot. And they’re inventing a fair bit of this stuff on the fly.
How do you put a floor under a non-standardized cost structure?
The prophet Nostradumbass
@? Martin: Python is a good idea. Another easy-to-learn language is Rexx. It unfortunately isn’t particularly well-known, but it is available for Mac OS X, Windows, OS/2, Linux, Amiga, Unix, and IBM mainframes. It’s great as a scripting language.
Anoniminous
@? Martin:
I am extremely impressed by the Raspberry Pi. A great machine. After I get my current project off my back I’m planning on building a Pi based 25 x 25 processor array to do an investigation in computational neurolinguistics that’s been hanging fire for, oh, about 3 years now.
I’ll be doing some of the programming in Python, some in Forth, and some, hopefully not much, in Assembler.
VFX Lurker
@? Martin:
The artists need to protect themselves with a union, and the VFX shops need to protect themselves with a trade association. It will happen eventually, but I expect a tough road until then.
I expect the industry-distorting subsidies to end eventually, too, both in the States and around the world. Taxpayers can’t keep sacrificing health care and higher education in exchange for funding Green Lantern and Oz — films that do not pay residuals to the states who helped fund them.
tatateeta
I liked the movie so much, I decided to read the book. Visually, it was beautiful. I liked Richard Parker. Also I have spent some time in Ponicherry (now Puducherry) and it’s always fun to recognize places you’ve been on the silver screen.
Origuy
Greetings from Moscow, where it’s 15F and snowing, until you go indoors and it’s 75 and you can’t get your coat off fast enough. I’ve managed not to get sick so far; my friend has not been so lucky. I fried my laptop, so now I have a European surge protector so that I don’t fry this Android tablet. We go back to San Jose on Saturday, probably get sick then.
Til
sneezy
@Bubblegum Tate:
Absolutely agreed. I read the book at the recommendation of a friend and enjoyed it until the end, at which point I realized I’d been taken by a huckster. Not gonna see the movie.
The prophet Nostradumbass
@Anoniminous: I’m looking to get a Raspberry Pi as well. I will likely use it to replace the computer I’m currently using to connect my weather station to the Internet. I’m currently using a Zotac ZBOX, which, while relatively low-power, is still overkill for what I’m doing.
? Martin
@The prophet Nostradumbass: One of my favorite things about Python is it’s ability to do shell scripting, web scripting, and drive external devices. I love that I can do:
python -m SimpleHTTPServer
And it’ll start a webserver running on any machine.
And if you want an interface on a python app, you can use Pyjamas Desktop which gives you what looks like a desktop app API but is really all handled by HTML and CSS and AJAX and whatnot. So, if you’re learning something new, you can learn how to do some web layout and programming but get what acts like a proper desktop app out of it.
It’s bits like that, which users are free to ignore, but which open up all kinds of new possibilities that make my like Python for learning. There’s support for I2C protocol, so you can easily hook up LED/LCD drivers, thermocouples, accelerometers, and so on. My son wants to build a new sprinkler controller that uses the Raspberry Pi to get local weather conditions and forecast and a soil moisture sensor and give it a web interface and maybe a simple iPhone app wrapper to that interface. Probably $50 in hardware above the cost of the $35 Pi, and then just a bunch of Python. I just showed how to start the web server. NOAA provides forecast and current conditions data via REST interface which Python does nicely. It can read from and control UART/I2D devices just fine. There’s a bunch of REST frameworks for Python to handle the iPhone front-end. It has SQLite support for easy data storage.
There’s just nothing there not to like. I spend most of my day in LAMP/Drupal, but for fun stuff, Python is unbeatable.
Cacti
FYI
The individual who filmed Mitt Romney’s infamous “47 percent” speech will unmask on Ed Schultz tomorrow night.
Revealed thus far: Male bartender for the company catering the event.
I knew it would end up being a member of “the help”.
Suffern ACE
@Bubblegum Tate: pretty much, yep. But let’s out that in a twist ending so that anyone who talks about it gets accused of spoiling the the plot.
The prophet Nostradumbass
@? Martin: If you’re interested in weather, wview, which I am going to use, runs on the Raspberry Pi.
That Python web server thing has all sorts of dangerous potential, it opens up the current directory in which you type it to browsing over the web.
Anoniminous
@The prophet Nostradumbass:
DSL folks are making noises about porting DSL to the Pi. Hope they do. I’m really tired of bloatware clogging everything up.
ETA: @The prophet Nostradumbass
stupid. What moron thought that one up?
? Martin
@The prophet Nostradumbass:
Yeah, it’s great isn’t it? Of course we’ll likely just run Apache and mod_wsgi once it’s actually running. But a big problem with learning a lot of this stuff is the amount of overhead just to get to ‘hello world’. I like to get my functionality rolling as soon as possible as it motivates me to slog through setting up Apache (I have people for that, yo) and crap like that because now I have an actual thing I want to see working, rather than the potential for a thing that I can’t even get started on.
But setting it up, just firewall a port for development on your laptop, run one line, and get at it. You can unfuckify it later. Besides, it’s already behind the NAT and the routers firewall. Unless I punch another hole in that firewall (and I’m way too lazy to do that now that I got it all working right), nobody from outside can see it anyway.
? Martin
@Anoniminous: Tiny Core is already ported.
The prophet Nostradumbass
@? Martin: You’re telling me that, and I already know it. The random person out there learning Python as their first programming language will have no idea what you’re talking about.
“Firewall a port? What the fuck does that mean?” “Punch a hole in the firewall? WHAT?” I repeat: The random person out there who wants to learn about programming, with their PC plugged into their Comcast cable modem, will have no fucking idea what you’re talking about.
? Martin
wview looks okay. The interface makes my data visualization eyes bleed, though. I would have to rewrite that to use SVG for all of the gauges and graphs.
? Martin
@The prophet Nostradumbass: Okay, but learning to program anything interesting is going to kick all kinds of dangerous doors open anyway. That’s just the nature of the beast. You could isolate them to some nice and sanitary island, but they won’t be able to do anything interesting. How is that going to motive them to learn programming? Even in a nice controlled college setting you learn a lot of these things the hard way.
And so what if it opens up access to that directory? It’s a $35 computer that you just dick around on. That’s the beauty of it. If someone gets in and hacks it, just wipe it and reinstall. Or in the case of the Pi, yank out that SD card and stuff in your backup one. By it’s very nature it’s a safe place to play. Hell, even if you catch it on fire, you’re only out $35. It’s not going to be the $1000 repository holding your medical records and tax returns. That’s part of why I set my son up this way.
If you do really want a safe place to play, get Pythonista for your iPad and a Bluetooth keyboard.
NotMax
So how goes the mid-February site rebuild?
And, Mr. Cole, Friday is the Ides of March. Beware of knives.
joel hanes
Choice of language depends a lot on the available computers and the kind of thing that interest you.
But don’t choose perl.
I code perl for a living;
perl is a terrible terrible choice for a first language. You want something simpler.
Whatever computer you have, learning the command-line/shell language for that computer is immediately empowering.
python’s current, free, small, well-done.
Many of the guys I work with like lua a lot.
The geekiest guy I know likes ruby.
C is old-skool beautiful, small, cranky and low-level; will teach you a lot about computer architecture and operating systems. Makes for a steep learning curve, because you must understand what you’re doing or die. Kernighan and Ritchie is the gospel; gcc is a family of cathedrals.
Every larval hacker should spend a day or so playing with Forth.
The best foundation skill is regular expressions — they are, like arithmetic, something that will be needed over and over.
? Martin
@joel hanes:
Heh. My son plays a game that he wanted to write some utilities for. It involves file parsing. We went through control structures and looping and good coding practices and did some math and odds and ends so he could feel like he accomplished something, and then file handling and… PCRE. I told him I do regex every damn day someplace or another and if he learns it really well, it won’t matter what language he’s using or even a lot of the tools he uses, that will be something he goes back to over and over and over.
It’s really fun watching someone wrap their head around it for the first time. Long strings of punctuation, greediness, back references, look aheads. It’s slow going, but I think he’s really getting it. We’re plowing through the file parser at a steady clip, and it’s being done right catching all of the edge cases. Very little code, lots and lots of explanation. He likes that we can use the iPad to toss the code up on the TV using AirPlay, look at the output, change the file data a bit, watch it break, repeat. It’s a lot easier to teach someone that way.
My condolences on slinging perl all day. I ported all of my perl to python simply to make it more maintainable. Even with decent documentation, I couldn’t make sense of code I had written years earlier because I had changed how I code perl over that time. It’s just too malleable for me. I need more structure.
JoyfulA
Thanks, everyone, for the programming suggestions. The consensus winner seems to be python, and I’m passing on all the information you provided.
Although why anyone would want to learn to program for enjoyment escapes me. . . .
joel hanes
@JoyfulA:
why anyone would want to learn to program for enjoyment escapes me
A shame. Programs are magic spells that work: one arranges the right words in the right order, and they become effective — albeit only within the domain of things computers can do.
Elizabeth
@Omnes Omnibus:
For me, Astepro opens and drains the sinuses, totally and almost immediately. So much more powerful than anything else I’ve used over the last decades.
The sleep is a side effect, but the sinus opening is the thing. My enthusiasm made me leave out the main point, I guess.
Msskwesq
Get a script for Astepro nasal spray. It works very well – better than Flonase type sprays. I actually use both as I have the worst allergies/sinuses on earth!
ulee
See booman for real poitical alaylsis. I might as well go to Starbucks. See Alison 711 for more inanitity.
ulee
Alison is Jewish! She will drop this into any casual converstation. We get it, Alison, you’re Jewish. Sheeesh.
ulee
Alison is Jewish! She will drop this into any casual converstation. We get it, Alison, you’re Jewish. Sheeesh.
ulee
And again I say Alison is Jewish. She really is, she’s like ABL. She is anorexic, which I really identify with. I asked her to respond, but she declined. Oh well, at least she is jewish.