They don’t give a fuck about anybody else

It was Bob Somerby who introduced me to the idea that most big name establishment media types only care about themselves, their vacation homes, how much the White House kisses their ass, how big a boner they get from thinking about torture or bombing or spreading freedom or a president in a flight suit.

Has there ever been a better example of this than Bob Woodward’s shameful performance today? He’ll be on Hannity to self-obsess a little more tomorrow.

I’m going to quote a few people I don’t agree with politically but who do (apparently) understand how journalism is supposed to work.

The good news is that no one under 50 watches Fox or reads the Washington Post. The even better news is that Bob Woodward will be dead or retired reasonably soon.

113 replies
  1. 1
    beltane says:

    Bob Woodward really sounds like a little old Victorian lady. He needs to loosen his corset stays or he will cut off all the oxygen going to his brain.

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    Hill Dweller says:

    The rest of the email(essentially an apology) makes Woodward’s accusation even more absurd.

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    Valdivia says:

    look for the fake Gene Sperling twitter account. Very funny.

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    👽 Martin says:

    Woodward is going on Hannity tomorrow to clear his name.

    So, yeah…

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    GregB says:

    No wonder Woodward is terrified. Have you seen the pictures of this intimidating thug Gene Sperling?

    Sends chills up my spine just looking at him.

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    smintheus says:

    Shame if nobody pays attention to Woodward’s temper tantrum. The more people who do, the sooner what remains of his reputation will collapse. With a big enough audience, Woodward could completely ruin himself this week.

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    beltane says:

    I preferred it back in 2009 when the Republicans complained that Rahm Emanuel was threatening them in the shower. Much better plot line. This is just…sad.

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    tom says:

    Amazing. So one of the guys who brought down Nixon has turned into a right-wing hack. What happened?

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    fleeting expletive says:

    Why would anyone think they are any different from the bubble-headed bleach blonde (and, uh, OKC has some) on the local news? They just got more recognition and reinforcement, so they just look good for the camera and schmooze with better hors d’ oerves (sorry, can’t spell it) . Anyway about Woodward.

    He’s a bubble-headed bleached blonde.

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    Walker says:


    It was always Bernstein. Woodward was along for the ride.

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    fleeting expletive says:

    Smintheus, the opposite might be true. Maybe nobody cares anymore what Woodward says, Then his reputation is not only collapsed, as entirely it should be, but forgotten.

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    General Stuck says:

    And like clockwork, the banshee wizards that run the Politico clown cannon, are riding to Woodward’s rescue.

    The Woodward reporting has caused the White House spin machine to sputter at a crucial time. The president was running around the country, campaign-style, warning that Republicans were at fault for the massive cuts set to hit Friday. What Obama never says: it was his own staff that proposed sequestration, and the tax hikes he now proposes – aimed at replacing half of the cuts — were never part of that very specific plan.

    I have no idea who first recommended the sequester, but am certain that everyone agreed to it. But the part about new tax revenues is bullshit, and obvious bullshit at that. I would say that politico will regret that, but don’t think they care a whit about truthiness.

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    MikeJ says:

    Most people don’t know Nora Ephron based Mixed Nuts on the life story of Woodward. It’s a truish fact.

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    Anya says:

    @beltane: I am looking forward to Jon Steward making fun of him (using his Lindsey Graham voice).

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    Suffern ACE says:

    Reading about his tirade from earlier in the day on Scarborough is enough to make me vomit. Seriously,

    The guy from watergate basically going apeshit that Obama is following budget rules. It’s like he loves presidents who abuse their power.

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    Tractarian says:

    Is that a Super Furry Animals reference? Nice.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    Steely Dan link

    Preferred Rickie Lee Jones link

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    Old Dan and Little Ann says:

    My morning viewing of Morning Joe around 7 am today lasted about 38 seconds once that douche bag started blaming Obama. Fuck Woodward.

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    hells littlest angel says:

    The even better news is that Bob Woodward will be dead reasonably soon.

    But I can’t wait until tomorrow morning!

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    Johnnybuck says:

    The good news is that no one under 50 watches Fox or reads the Washington Post.

    The good news is that no one under 50 gives a fuck about Bob Woodward.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @hells littlest angel: he’s only 69. I don’t think you should hold your breath for the ten or fifteen years where he gets to be the dean of Washington now that Broder has kicked it.

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    Jeremy says:

    @General Stuck: Well they don’t calm them GOPOLITICO for nothing. Like you said the mandate was for an agreement with revenues and cuts. There was never an agreement for only cuts so Woodward and the rest of the GOP Media are lying.

    And they wonder why the president picks local media outlets and other venues over these idiots.

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    KCinDC says:

    “Bob Woodward will be dead”

    Doug, how can you threaten Bob Woodward like that?

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    Hill Dweller says:

    @General Stuck: Ultimately, the sequester is the fault of Republicans, regardless of who proposed it. Without them demanded ransom for not intentionally destroying the full faith and credit of the United States, we wouldn’t be in this position.

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    gussie says:

    I think Doug will regret writing that, KCinDC, by which I mean ‘release the swarthy hounds.’

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    SatanicPanic says:

    @KCinDC: DougJ will be dead or in jail by this time next year

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    General Stuck says:

    @Hill Dweller:

    I agree.

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    cckids says:

    The good news is that no one under 50 watches Fox

    Slightly OT, but I was exposed to Fox this morning, taking my son to the doctor. Megan Kelly was enciting, some dude from Common Cause was hyperventilating that OFA needed to be shut down, etc, etc. It was the closest I believe I’ve come to a daily “2 Minute Hate”. Truly abhorrent. How do people stand it?

    Got the receptionist to change the channel to ESPN. I don’t watch it, but sports is the closest thing to a national religion, so few will bitch about it.

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    Violet says:

    Is something like “People that threatened Bob Woodward” going viral yet?

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @SatanicPanic: Shall we start the countdown now?

    How’s old Ted doing in that respect?

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    fleeting expletive says:

    Snaps for hell’s littlest angel!!!

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    Jeremy says:

    @KCinDC: Oh no poor Bob Woodward. He is getting a taste of Chicago style politics.

    Also Jennifer Rubin tweeted that Obama will be the Democrats Richard Nixon. I guess this “incident” and Obama shunning the village makes Obama the Democratic Nixon.

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    Redshift says:

    @General Stuck: You have to admit, the boys at Politico really have the technique of assembling all the Republican talking points into a paragraph down to a science.

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    amk says:

    @Hill Dweller: The thugs voted for it. So they own it. End of story.

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    Carolinus says:

    @General Stuck:

    I have no idea who first recommended the sequester …

    It’s totally inconsequential too.

    The President was advocating for a clean debt ceiling increase or a grand bargain that put everything to bed once and for all. The GOP was demanding equal cuts to debt ceiling increases. They held the full faith & credit of the US hostage in order to force their demands be met. That was done by a trillion in initial cuts and with the super committee (& the sequester fallback) to come up with the remainder.

    It clearly wasn’t the White House’s preferred policy, and only came into existence through an unprecedented power-play by the GOP.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Jeremy: Obama has a spaniel and Nixon had a spaniel. The parallels just keep piling up.

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    SatanicPanic says:

    @dance around in your bones: He’s got a couple months left but I’m not holding my breath

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    General Stuck says:


    Yup, and the usual irrelevant gestures deployed that republicans aren’t blameless either to show us their impartiality.

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    MikeJ says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Nixon had a Lincoln driven by a man named Kennedy. Obama saved Detroit.

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    jamick6000 says:

    guysguysguys this could be the tweet of the century ******* **********

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    Jeremy says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yeah and the right said Obama had an enemies list like Nixon when the Obama campaign deployed a truth team against a list of right wing activists. Another parallel.

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    fleeting expletive says:

    #18. Absolutely perfect Rickie Lee Jones. Perfect.

    I bow to you.

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    dance around in your bones says:


    Prolly wise. I have no idea WTF he was talking about anyway.

    I’d be a lot sadder if DougJ(name of the week) was in jail or dead. Ted, not so much.

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    Anya says:

    @jamick6000: Awww, how precious. Did Jene Sperling send him an apology email as well?

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    Jeremy says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Also Obama’s health care bill is similar to the Nixon proposal in 1974. Another parallel.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @fleeting expletive: Rickie Lee is just – stellar.

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    amk says:

    @Jeremy: obama/nixon. Both five letters.

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    fleeting expletive says:

    Yes. Thank you for both. They’ll stay in my open tabs, now and at least tomorrow.

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    Politically Lost says:

    I got out of the boat. I went over to Drudge to see what the fedora had for links on Woodward’s threat and followed a Business Insider link and then… waded into the comments.

    My gawd. Over 600 comments most of them arguing about some form of birtherism. That is some deeply warped alternative universe right there. I was laughing at first but jaysus fuckin’ christ on crack. These people somehow remember to breath and feed themselves.

    I’ll tempt fate. BRING ON THE METEOR!!!

    Edited to add the link, just in case you want to see for yourself.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Steeplejack: smiley-face :)

    (long-time fan of Rickie Lee)

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    eemom says:

    The good news is that no one under 50 . . . reads the Washington Post.

    Well, to be fair, I don’t actually READ it — I just can’t bring myself to cancel my subscription after 25 years.

    feh, fuck this ageist shit. Hey, @dance around in your bones: — let’s talk about young Brando again.

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    NotMax says:


    And both fathered 2 daughters.

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    Dexter's new approach says:

    I saw Woodward give a keynote talk at the JP Morgan healthcare conference 3 years ago. I wasn’t sure why he was there, the spot was usually given to people that know stuff about healthcare. He told some old stories, talked nonsense well below the audience about healthcare reform, and came off as an old spent reporter milking it,

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    fleeting expletive says:

    Goodnight, Dancing. Thank you for the music and I hope to see you around these parts again soon. I ain’t much of a commenter, but I know what’s what.

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    dance around in your bones says:


    Hey, @dance around in your bones: — let’s talk about young Brando again.

    The arms! the muscles! the t-shirts! the gawdamn sex aroma just wafting off the dude! Even his pretty lips!

    I’d hit that anytime! Not after he got fat and hammocky in Tahiti though. (To be fair, he prolly wouldn’t hit me either nowadays, if he was still alive.)

    ::::still fanning myself from last night::::

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    amk says:

    @Dexter’s new approach: a la clint eastwood ? where the fuck are the young college republicans buckaroos?

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @fleeting expletive: Oh thanks – I’ve been around here for quite some years,so no doubt you will ‘see’ me again.

    Give the Rickie Lee Jones channel a try!

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    Hill Dweller says:

    @Dexter’s new approach: I’m betting Woodward’s attempt to change the subject/muddy the water is at the behest of oligarchs/hedge funds/Wall Street.

    Woodward is obviously trying to prevent any revenues(which will come from loopholes the very wealth exploit) being included in a potential deal to replace the sequester. His bullshit eleventh hour claim that no revenues were ever supposed to be part of a sequester deal is a tell.

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    trollhattan says:

    @fleeting expletive:

    If you likie, get the album. It’s a treasure (her take on “For No One” gets me every damn time I listen).

    Hippie alert: Palladia has the Woodstock director’s cut on rotation, with more showings scheduled. Watching Jimi’s set as I type this.

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    Yutsano says:

    Waitaminute…THAT’S IT?? Jeebus on Buddha’s shoulders on a unicycle!

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    amk says:

    EU to cap bankers’ bonuses at one year’s salary and at two years’ if the shareholders explicitly agree.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    Why am I reduced to watching Mad Max (out of the corner of one eye) and thinking Mel was kinda hot back in the day before I knew he was an asshole?

    Because I’m too lazy to buzz around the dial.

    eemom! Marlon Brando! The matchstick kills me.

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    Petorado says:

    Woodward knows better than to mess with Gene Sperling. That Sperling guy, with that creepy voice, will send Bob’s ass straight to the Twilight Zone.

    …Oh, wait

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @trollhattan: Dang – thanks for the ref, but I got there just as the movie ended.

    Don’t think I can handle “Electric Proms:Paul McCartney” coming up. Even though he was my fave Beatle back in the day (ok, I was 13 or so).

    I’ve often thought you could use “your favorite Beatle” like an astrological sign. Tells you a lot about a person (I am ashamed to say).

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    handsmile says:

    @dance around in your bones: , et al

    While I still do prefer Steely Dan’s “Show Biz Kids,” have loved Rickie Lee Jones for years and years, from her very first album in ’79.

    How can you not adore an American artist who had the courage and keen vision in 2003 to describe Dubya as “Ugly Man” (from her album The Evening of My Best Day which also included the song “Tell Somebody (Repeal the Patriot Act)”). A brave person.

    Sad that she seems to have dropped out of sight and sound in recent years, and it’s been a long time since I’ve heard her live. (Wiki informs me that she did release an album in 2012 which I’ll now seek out.) With her musical instincts and skills, one would hope and imagine that Rickie Lee’s career as a singer/songwriter would be long, fruitful, and immensely pleasurable for her fans.

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    trollhattan says:

    @dance around in your bones:

    If you have a dvr, it’s coming up again in another day or so. Or, just plan on being up at some goddamn inconvenient hour. There are muddy hippies to be mocked/envied, damnit!

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    YellowJournalism says:

    @dance around in your bones: For pure guilty lust, nothing beats Paul Newman in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. To quote the also late, great Liz Taylor, “Yes, sir!”

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @handsmile: Thanks – listening now.

    I have also been a fan since 1979. Saw her live a few times.

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    priscianus jr says:

    Where are my pearls when I need to clutch them?

    The most comforting thought is that, like most of the Beltway chatter, nobody outside of that small territory gives a shit.

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    BAtFFP says:


    Conor Friedersdorf’s reply is awesome.

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    TS says:


    The good news is that no one under 50 gives a fuck about Bob Woodward.

    No-one under 50 has a clue who he is, was or why he thinks he matters.

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    srv says:

    I think a photo shoot with Obamaquester and Robert Redford tomorrow would put this all to rest pretty quickly.

    *wait – even better. Michelle and Robert doing an interpretive dance on Woodwards hurt fee-fees.

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    SatanicPanic says:

    @jamick6000: amazing how far the sound of the world’s smallest violin travels

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    Mark S. says:


    Hussein/Milhous. Both seven letters.

    This is getting scary.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @trollhattan: I will watch for it. My husband and I could have gone to Woodstock but decided to hit the hippie trail to India instead. Got stuck in Afghanistan for the winter (long story) and never regretted it.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @YellowJournalism: Rawwwwwr, Paul Newman!

    Young, and on crutches!

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    GregB says:

    I’m pretty sure Deepthroat in this Threatgate saga will turn out to be Mike Allen with Jim Vandehei working Woodward’s balls.

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    Hill Dweller says:

    This exchange supposedly happened last week. Why did Woodward wait so long to alert the media? Why did Bob send a friendly reply to Sperling’s purported threat?

    Woodward is flailing.

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    amk says:

    @GregB: LOL. stolen and tweeted.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    Rickie Lee Jones “Horses” one of my faves.

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    No-one under 50 has a clue who he is, was or why he thinks he matters.

    How old are you? I am under 50 (46) and I sure as hell know who he is.

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    rda909 says:

    @GregB: Someone send that to Seth McFarlane. Now THAT’S “edgy” comedy, not that 12-year old boy shitt we were subjected to during the Oscars. Bravo!

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    dance around in your bones says:

    Moderation? I guess I’ve been talking too much. I’ll shut up now.

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    xian says:

    @jamick6000: hah, O’Keefe, Woodward, Hammity — together at last.

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    Mandalay says:

    @Hill Dweller:

    Woodward is obviously trying to prevent any revenues(which will come from loopholes the very wealth exploit) being included in a potential deal to replace the sequester. His bullshit eleventh hour claim that no revenues were ever supposed to be part of a sequester deal is a tell.

    Right – Woodward is squirming on the no-revenues issue:

    “Now the White House has a point, that there was always discussion about some more tax increases but the President got a lot of tax increases a month ago”

    So Woodward’s new position on revenue has the strength of a wet Kleenex: the president got some last month, so now it’s our turn for cuts.

    Good luck with your Wall Street agenda, fuckface.

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    rda909 says:

    @priscianus jr: I think I saw them on your fainting couch, next to the delicate flowers.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Mandalay: anyone who says “tax increases” is using the Norquist framing anyway, no? No one is talking about raising rates. It bothers me that our political conversation becomes “money up ungood.”

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    Steeplejack says:

    @dance around in your bones:

    Woodstock will be on again at 1:00 p.m. EST Thursday.

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    Something I only learned today, because of the oral arguments before SCOTUS about the Voting Rights Act: Monterey, Kings and Yuba Counties in California require “preclearance” under the VRA.

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    fuckwit says:

    Wait… isn’t this Bob Woodward the turd who wrote a book-length blowjob about…. George W. Bush?

    Why the fuck is anyone taking this peice of shit seriously?

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Steeplejack: Just added it to record on the DVR, which no doubt will baffle the kids.

    I don’t know if I’ve ever seen the director’s cut? Seen the regular movie enough times that I feel like I was there.

    Wavy Gravy! “What we have in mind is breakfast in bed for 400,000 people!”

    ETA: The Hog Farm was from my home state – used to hang around their events at UNM, and later traveled with them in Nepal. “You’re either on the bus or off the bus!”

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    Steeplejack says:

    @dance around in your bones:

    I’m recording it and will probably fast-forward through to Santana and Hendrix. Two of my guitar gods.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Steeplejack: Oh gawd, that drum solo by the 17 yr old kid? Michael Shrieve? Santana?

    And I usually hate drum solos.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    Somehow I got onto Jim Carroll’s When The City Drops Into The Night so y’all have to listen to it, too.

    A fitting end to the night, no?

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    trollhattan says:

    @dance around in your bones:

    It’s too late, to fall in love with Sharon Tate.


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    Radio One says:

    @tom: Bob Woodward has been a beltway hack for the right wing for a long time. I don’t see his wailing to Fox News about lacking access to the White House as “amazing.”

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    Hattie says:

    Ageism makes me nervous.

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    Schlemizel says:

    @dance around in your bones:

    42 days & counting!

    I keep posting this link for a reason

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    chopper says:

    The even better news is that Bob Woodward will be dead or retired reasonably soon.


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    pluege says:

    The even better news is that Bob Woodward will be dead or retired reasonably soon.

    the very thought of the tributes to woodward’s magnificence when he dies or retires is bile heaving. yech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Lurking Canadian says:

    The idea “Obama got revenue at the time of the fiscal cliff; from now on it’s all cuts” has been a wingnut talking point for all of this year. I have no idea what the agreement was at the time of sequester, but is just wingnut boilerplate.

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    Mike E says:

    @dance around in your bones: Late, but…

    Every Beatles fan is a “Paul”, whether they admit to it or not. George was my fave Fab, but, really, it’s Paul, if’n ya knows…

    And don’t stop posting here, for whatever reason, k? Thx

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    brantl says:

    The good news is that no one under 50 watches Fox or reads the Washington Post. The even better news is that Bob Woodward will be dead or retired reasonably soon.

    Couldn’t happen soon enough. What a useless tit.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Mark S.:

    Both married to women.

    Two daughters each.

    Attended college in California (BHO for fewer years); law school on the East Coast.


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    dance around in your bones says:


    It’s too late, to fall in love with Sharon Tate.

    And it’s too soon, to ask me for the words I want carved on my tomb.

    ‘Cept for The Nuge, let’s ask him now! It’s never too late for that. “Cold dead hands”?

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    Chris says:


    It was the closest I believe I’ve come to a daily “2 Minute Hate”. Truly abhorrent. How do people stand it?

    2 Minutes Hate is exactly the point. Every day, Foxbots tune into their favorite TV station and discover the existence of a half dozen new examples of Obammunist Tyranny and other things that, if true, should be enough to provoke a revolution. Hence the perpetual rage.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    Also, forgot to mention the excellent sax work by Bobby Keyes (that’s how his ex-wife spelled it; I worked with her at some point in my pointless life) on the Catholic Boy album.

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    Anna in PDX says:

    @Jeremy: Gee, I make to-do lists and grocery lists. I have no idea I was just like Nixon !!!!!1!11!!!

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    Sparky Satori says:

    So, Woodward spent the Bush years watching war atrocities committed against civilians and merely farted into the Oval Office cushions, but now sees “madness” in the White House? Yeah, because he’s part of the biased “liberal” media, right?

    This guy would have you believe (incorrectly, natch) that he went eyeball to eyeball with Nixon without hesitation, but is “threatened” because an Obama official warns him he’ll regret being proved wrong on facts?

    As for co-conspirator Lanny Davis, hasn’t this attention whore already used up his fifteen minutes? Because if he’s still in any way relevant, why is he not working for a real media operation, rather than at the Moonie Times?

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Sparky Satori:

    Since I spent this whole thread off-topic, I have to agree with you. Woodward – I used to have some respect for him from the whole Nixon/Watergate thing, but nowadays?

    He’s a useless fuck. Manufacturing outrage in some random tweet. So pathetic.

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