State of the Union Open Thread

The Guardian liveblog is up to its usual high standards.

(Odds on Cole whinging that I stepped on his thread?)

ETA: It’s not what the Media birdbrains will jump on, but I would be really really pleased if the minimum wage were raised to $9 an hour!

ETAA: Nationwide pre-K and kindergarten would also be an excellent ROI program. Or as our RW friends call it: Big Guv indoctrinating our babies! ! !

ETAA: Guardian has a still photo of Ted Nugent. I think the Secret Service told him “Red dot lazer sight on your forehead all evening, Ted. Give us a reason, any reason.”

ETAA: “The families of Newtown deserve a vote!” Standing-o & shouts of agreement.

340 replies
  1. 1
    Baud says:

    We want Rubio!

  2. 2
    Mnemosyne says:

    Amusing tweet from the Guardian feed:


    anamariecox: Boehner is studying Obama so closely I think he may believe the president is filled with bourbon.

  3. 3
    Corner Stone says:

    How would Cole know?

  4. 4
    the Conster says:

    He doesn’t sound like a secret Kenyan Islamo-fascist socialist to me, but then I’m not a nutjob.

  5. 5
    Redshift says:

    Weird. When I opened the Guardian page, the YouTube stream was ahead of C-SPAN on my TeeVee.

  6. 6
    Corner Stone says:

    I think all SoTUs are like this, but this seems like a fuckton of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.

  7. 7
    Baud says:

    @Corner Stone:

    People should know what they are losing out on for voting Republican.

  8. 8
    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    Thank you, Anne Laurie! The proprietor here could learn a thing or two from you.

    Increase the minimum wage! You’d think a progressive was giving this speech. Heh.

  9. 9
    Maude says:

    The Guardian: They don’t understand US politics.

  10. 10
    LittlePig says:

    Barack “The Islamic Shock” Hussein Superallah Obama.


    (bearing in mind talk is rather inexpensive)

  11. 11
    Mnemosyne says:

    Our friends trying to get their US green cards and/or citizenship will like the sound of this:

    And real reform means fixing the legal immigration system to cut waiting periods, reduce bureaucracy, and attract the highly-skilled entrepreneurs and engineers that will help create jobs and grow our economy.

  12. 12
    PsiFighter37 says:

    Hahaha, referencing Romney about a living wage tied to inflation. Just trolling the GOP now…

  13. 13
    Corner Stone says:

    Boehner just did the old timey drunk from a Western movie move. He did a little shimmy, a little shake, and brought his face down to meet the glass he’s drinking from.

  14. 14
    James Hare says:

    Andrew Sullivan shows his great empathy with his bit about the green ribbons. Apparently anything trying to point to that tragedy is “lame.”

    Is the AIDS quilt “lame?”

  15. 15
    dance around in your bones says:

    Oooooh, Boner goes for the bourbon on the minimum wage thing. Even shakes his head.

    In fact, I think he’s eating his tongue and heh! just wiped his ass.

  16. 16
    Maude says:

    It’s the live WH feed at Guardian.

  17. 17
    Cassidy says:

    Odds on Cole whinging that I stepped on his thread?

    You could have stopped right there.

  18. 18
    YellowJournalism says:

    Biden looks so sweet and caring sitting next to Boehner, who looks like an absolute evil old man with his pointy eyebrows. With the perfect screenshot, you could do the old cartoon angel-and-devil-on-my-shoulder bit with Obama in the middle.

  19. 19
    Corner Stone says:

    @Baud: You think they’re going to learn it by listening about healing grids and immigrants who pay a hefty fine and then get in the back of the line?
    Mars bitchez!

  20. 20
    PsiFighter37 says:

    Still nothing about gun control or gay marriage yet. C’mon!

  21. 21
    Mnemosyne says:

    @James Hare:

    Andrew Sullivan shows his great empathy with his bit about the green ribbons. Apparently anything trying to point to that tragedy is “lame.”

    He’s just bitter that his plan to support the Iranian revolt by having everyone change their blog’s background to green was hooted down as the stupid idea it was.

  22. 22
    Baud says:

    @Corner Stone:

    End of war. McCain has a sad.

  23. 23
    PsiFighter37 says:

    @Baud: Ironic enough, since if Vietnam never ended, he’d be rotting in a cell somewhere in Hanoi.

  24. 24
    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @James Hare: You are going above and beyond the call in keeping up with his swill. Don’t expect hazard pay if you’re going to volunteer for that gig.

  25. 25
    geg6 says:

    Fuck Cole. He’s too busy watching overbred prima donna goggies.

    I prefer watching the Big O troll the GOP and Boehner gulping the vodka in his glass.

  26. 26
    General Stuck says:

    34,000 troops, that is all of them.

  27. 27
    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @PsiFighter37: Oh, surely you know he’s building up to the gun issue. That’s gonna be the fury of fireworks that signals the end of the show.

  28. 28
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    Cyborg attacks? Eek!

  29. 29
    Maude says:

    He did well with education costs. I thought of you.
    Bloomberg tweeted that high college costs cause inequality.

  30. 30
    Redshift says:

    @Maude: I know, but when I went to the WH page directly, it’s running behind the TV. Strange vagaries of signal propagation.

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    stinger says:

    @PsiFighter37: No about marriage equality specifically, but he did say something right in the first couple of minutes about “no matter who you love”.

  33. 33
    dance around in your bones says:

    Boner’s shooting daggers from his eyes now – what, Congress actually has to WORK?

  34. 34

    I need Cokie Roberts to tell me what to think, this preznidentin’ is HARD.

  35. 35
    Corner Stone says:

    Honestly, if he started speaking in tongues it wouldn’t sound anymore implausible than the things he’s proposing now.

  36. 36
    Suzanne says:

    The Drunk Weeping Cheeto looks totally hung over.

  37. 37
    Maude says:

    Yes it is. At least the stream is working.

  38. 38
    Baud says:

    @Corner Stone:

    There’s always the dog show if this doesn’t suit you.

  39. 39
    Corner Stone says:

    “There’s justice and law in the United States. So long as you can afford it.”

  40. 40
    the Conster says:

    Classic Obama promoting a Commonwealth with a soupcon of nationalism and yes-we-can-ism. Suck it wingnuts!! He’s on a trolling roll now.

  41. 41
    geg6 says:

    Boehner’s just rolling that vodka or bourbon or whatever alcohol that is around in his mouth every time he drinks. No one drinks water like that. That’s what you do with booze, especially if you just loooooove that booze.

  42. 42
    PeakVT says:

    …if the minimum wage were raised to $9 an hour!

    and indexed to inflation. That part is an important goal, too.

  43. 43

    @Suzanne: The Weeping Cheetos will be the name of my new zydeco band.

  44. 44
    Corner Stone says:

    @Baud: At least there’s a probable successful outcome at the dog show. Unlike this dog & pony show nonsense.

  45. 45
    Eric S. says:

    Just checked off the “defend israel” box.

  46. 46
    Anne Laurie says:

    @Corner Stone: Tonight’s not about who the President pleases, it’s about who he pisses off.

  47. 47
    Corner Stone says:

    There’s The Gays!

  48. 48
    YellowJournalism says:

    Fuck you, Boehner, for not clapping on the “gay and straight” family line.

  49. 49
    Smiling Mortician says:

    There it is. Getting the social stuff in through military talk.

  50. 50
    dance around in your bones says:

    No applause from Boner on the ‘gay or straight’ line.

  51. 51
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Corner Stone: Do you switch over to bitter cynicism at 9:00 p.m. CST every night?

  52. 52
    Xecky Gilchrist says:

    @Corner Stone: Piefilter.

    I mean, if you’re just going to say the same stuff over and over anyway, it might as well be about pie.

  53. 53

    @Corner Stone: Dude, there’s a portion of the punch bowl upon which you have yet to defecate. Please keep up?

  54. 54
    mdblanche says:

    @Baud: This dog show’s better. It’s a dog and pony show. PONIES!

  55. 55
    General Stuck says:

    @Corner Stone:

    He’s telling us what a decent normal USA would look like, along with details and policies that would take us there. It’s up to the people to believe it or not.

  56. 56
    Punchy says:

    TPM says that the conservative SCOTUS judges didnt show up. Is this true? WTF?

  57. 57
    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @Suzanne: And, lo!, there was much lolling at in the Pantload household.

    @geg6: To be honest, if I were feet away from Obama giving the SOTU, I’d want a damn fine Islay malt to go with the experience.

  58. 58
    Baud says:

    Voting reform!

  59. 59
    Cain says:

    OK, who is the really attractive blonde girl next to Dr. Jill Biden?

  60. 60
    the Conster says:


  61. 61
    Comrade Mary says:

    Ha! Faked them out on the second amendment to talk about VOTING RIGHTS.

  62. 62
    Smiling Mortician says:

    Is Ruth Bader Ginsberg asleep?

  63. 63
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Punchy: I didn’t see them sitting there, so it is quite possible. Roberts is there though.

  64. 64
    geg6 says:


    Yep. It’s a real issue that is holding back the economy.

    Uh oh…voter reform. The wingers are freaking,

  65. 65
    Baud says:

    Romney, somewhere in America or the Cayman Islands, “Stop saying my name!”

  66. 66
    Smiling Mortician says:

    @Punchy: Alito, Scalia & Thomas are MIA.

  67. 67
    Cain says:

    Dianne Feinstein looks really evil.


  68. 68
    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    My, Ginsburg looks frail.

  69. 69
    Elizabelle says:

    Finally. Kids and gun violence.

  70. 70
    Comrade Mary says:

    Protecting the children — as a segue to gun control. Imminent Nuge explosion in 5 … 4 …

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    mdblanche says:

    @Punchy: Scalia is supposedly giving a speech of his own tonight. Probably on a street corner.

  74. 74
    Smiling Mortician says:

    Guns. Here we go. “Each of these proposals deserves a vote in Congress.”

  75. 75
    Maude says:

    @General Stuck:
    The commission to improve voting rights. He just set a fire under the Reps and they don’t like it.

  76. 76
    PsiFighter37 says:

    Any bets on Ted Nugent shouting out something inappropriate?

  77. 77
    Cain says:

    Boehner looks like he’s going to get sick. He keeps looking up…

  78. 78
    GregB says:

    Fox News reporting that Jeremiah Wright is the designated survivor.

  79. 79
    Corner Stone says:

    @Xecky Gilchrist: Please don’t pie me! Please? Give me an eleventy chance! I swear I can do better!

  80. 80
    Elizabelle says:


    Co-headed by Governor Romney’s attorney. A shout out.

  81. 81
    Corner Stone says:

    @BruceFromOhio: I’m just working Baud over a little bit. Lighten up, Francis.

  82. 82
    Comrade Mary says:

    Shouting as he repeats that the gun control legislation deserves a vote.

  83. 83
    Elizabelle says:

    The families … deserve a vote.

    Well done.

  84. 84
    Cain says:

    Prez is killin it.

  85. 85
    geg6 says:

    Aaaaaaand here we go, gang! Gun safety, muthafuckahs!


  86. 86
    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q) says:

    Thank you to the foot of big for this thread.

  87. 87
    RareSanity says:

    What is the chant that’s going on during the applause?

  88. 88
    Cassidy says:

    @RareSanity: I don’t know but someone shouted they should be ashamed of themselves at the end.

  89. 89
    Comrade Mary says:

    I think it’s “Vote! Vote! Vote!” Or “Chug! Chug! Chug!”, for Boehner.

  90. 90
    Punchy says:

    Bidens black slit-eyes look goddamn ZOMBIE-LIKE

  91. 91
    Cain says:

    103 years old, and gets clapped by congress.. fucking awesome.

  92. 92
    Suzanne says:

    Clinton/Napolitano 2016, bitchezzz.

  93. 93

    @Corner Stone: Oh, Clare, you know me so well. I do miss the rotating tag line, tho.

  94. 94
    Baud says:

    Ironic twist: She voted for Romney

  95. 95
    Elizabelle says:

    i love it. The congresscritters are craning for a look at 102-year old Desseline.

  96. 96
    mai naem says:

    @mdblanche: Scalia’s giving a speech to the Westboro Church.

  97. 97
    JCT says:

    @GregB: At this point I wouldn’t be shocked if they did exactly that.

  98. 98
    moda31 says:

    Wow, Boehner can’t even get up to applaud a 102 year old woman. That’s the definition of being a douche.

  99. 99
    Poopyman says:

    I should look so good at 103.

  100. 100
    Corner Stone says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: That’s when my son goes to bed. And a small gap before I start responding to about 2 hours of work email.
    I gotta get it in when I can.

  101. 101
    Dan says:

    @Cain: A teacher from Newtown. She is very attractive.

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    dance around in your bones says:


    NO kidding. Boner looks like he’s barely restraining himself from a big ol’ eye roll.

    Ok, Desiline looks – like a cool old lady! Why is it that all the people Obama brings along look like happy, functional, grateful, involved people?

    Oh, I guess I know.

  103. 103
    Cain says:

    he’s spinning it up.. building it up. I can feel it! In the end he’s going to scream.. ‘Coooooooooooooole!!!’

  104. 104
    RareSanity says:


    Good grief…

    @Comrade Mary:

    Now that’s funny.

  105. 105
    Anne Laurie says:

    @Smiling Mortician:

    Alito, Scalia & Thomas are MIA

    They’re home, waiting with bated breath to get called to the Papal conclave!

  106. 106
    mai naem says:

    Where’s Nugent?

  107. 107
    Poopyman says:

    Wait, that’s it? That was a sudden wrap-up.

  108. 108
    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @Punchy: He scratched a cornea with a contact lens.

  109. 109
    RareSanity says:

    Shorter Wolf Blitzer: Fuck the President! If it bleeds, it leads…out to California we go.

  110. 110
    Elizabelle says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    Yeah. We sure Scalia’s not already in Vatican City?

    He’ll take up celibacy. He done fathered his eight young ‘uns.

  111. 111
    Cassidy says:

    @RareSanity: I assumed it was Republicans saying something vulgar. I think that comment was aimed at them.

  112. 112
    dance around in your bones says:

    Ok, now brace yourselves for the MOST EVER AWESOME Republican responses!!

    Bookmark it, libs!

    /uh, snark of course.

  113. 113
    Baud says:


    That’s a good thing. The less Wolf talks about politics, the better.

  114. 114
    Anne Laurie says:


    Boehner looks like he’s going to get sick. He keeps looking up…

    Keeping an eye on the SS sniper assigned to Nugent?

    (Yeah, I’m goin’ to hell)

  115. 115
    Comrade Mary says:

    The nerds are out! The nerds are out! Digital Strategy debriefs everyone on the WH feed.

    But it’s not in Spanish, so it doesn’t count.

  116. 116
    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @Smiling Mortician: Woody Allen has missed Oscar winnings because he always played clarinet with the boys on that night. Maybe A/S/T joined a jazz band?

  117. 117
    GregB says:

    @Smiling Mortician:

    It’s bondage night at the local Opus Dei meeting. They get to personally whip an albino.

  118. 118
    YellowJournalism says:

    @dance around in your bones: I swear I caught an eye roll when Obama was talking about the 15-year-old who’d been shot. My husband thinks he was just looking up at her family.

    CNN could not wait to break to the crazed killer cop story immediately after.

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    Corner Stone says:


    She is very attractive.

    That, my friend, is an understatement.

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    Anya says:

    Who will be the first wingnut to ask for the 102 year old’s birth certificate. My money is on twitchy.

  121. 121
    raven says:

    Tweety is being a complete motherfucking asshole. God I’d like to slap this shit out of him.

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    gnomedad says:

    I think the Secret Service told him “Red dot lazer sight on your forehead all evening, Ted.

    Sounds like a good Photoshop 101 exercise.

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    Who told Dorner to DIAF? He appears to have listened.

  124. 124
    Xecky Gilchrist says:

    @Anne Laurie: Keeping an eye on the SS sniper assigned to Nugent?

    (Yeah, I’m goin’ to hell)

    Speaking the truth doesn’t get you sent Down Below, I’d hope.

    The SS would be idiots not to be keeping an eye on that maniac, and that’s the way they keep an eye on people, I reckon.

  125. 125
    General Stuck says:


    It is unlikely the republicans are going to do anything due to being unstable and splintered and of no use other than to say no as a group. It is not a difficult analysis by the Obama folks to try and make lemonade of some sort out of these lemons .

    So Obama, imo, is speaking more so over the heads of republicans, directly to the American people, without inhibition of serious negotiation with republicans. It no doubt is pissing them off, but the ones with some situational awareness realize their party is in turmoil for the foreseeable future. All of the past 4 years of effort by Obama to reach out to the nutters as he promised in 08, is coming to fruition for his taking the high road, and using any number of rhetorical tricks to bait and switch the repubs. And get away with it.

    The House of reps is a dead zone in American politics right now for doing anything of value, and poor Boehner is only useful in averting complete disaster by passing vital bills with dem votes. And at the same time trying to cover his own ass with man o mano blather about Obama, and dems. This period, I think, does have some potential for turning the electorate some away from republicans, if played right. It is already happening.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @raven: Michael Steele is pretty bad too.

  127. 127
    Comrade Mary says:

    Holy fucking shit. Early reports are that the cops deliberately set fire to Dorner’s cabin.

  128. 128
    Dan says:

    @Corner Stone: She is very very very attractive.

  129. 129
    RareSanity says:


    My “good grief” was basically the disappointment that any of them feel that applause (or the lack thereof) , are not sufficient demonstrations of their levels of agreement with what is being said.

    Clap or don’t clap, your choice…just STFU!

    This ain’t a Duke basketball game.

  130. 130
    raven says:

    @Comrade Mary: So what if they did. Flush his ass out or make him give up. Goddamn.

  131. 131
    Anne Laurie says:


    Who will be the first wingnut to ask for the 102 year old’s birth certificate.

    She’s a naturalized Haitian immigrant. I assume the Twitchyverse has already lost its meagre moiety of marbles over that, but I’m not gonna go looking.

  132. 132
    Corner Stone says:

    @Comrade Mary: Waco! Waco! Waco!

  133. 133
    jamick6000 says:

    Joe Lieberman *and* SimpsonBowles

  134. 134
    J.D. Rhoades says:

    The gun nuts on Twitter are going insane over “they deserve a vote.” That one clearly left a bruise. Good.

  135. 135
    Corner Stone says:

    Did Tweety just say, “what an asshole” ? Or, “what about the House though” ?

  136. 136
    RobertDSC-iMac G5 says:

    He got better as the speech went on. Glad for that.

    Fuck the fucking deficit mania.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @YellowJournalism: Bring in the refs!

    I never watch CNN, always MSNBC despite the criticisms (NOT Morning Ho, ever! + re: CNN cannot stand Wolfie).

    Will wait to see if MSNBC (or ANYONE, frankly) goes to the Repub response in the face of the BRIGHT SHINY OBJECT of the Dornan chingadera.

  138. 138
    RareSanity says:


    Good evening, Sir.

    How does the evening find you? Still suffering from football related withdrawal symptoms, as am I?

  139. 139
    Elizabelle says:

    Best in show up now at Westminster.

    Best in show at SOTU concluded.

  140. 140
    Full Metal Wingnut says:

    @Comrade Mary: That’s fine by me. This Dorner guy was not fucking around. He made clear that he would not be taken alive, and had just killed and seriously injured two cops an hour before.

  141. 141
    Loneoak says:

    The Onion killed it with this one.

  142. 142
    TaMara (BHF) says:

    Let the mocking begin.

  143. 143
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @dance around in your bones: I’ve switched over to Notorious on TMC

  144. 144
    Corner Stone says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I actually like Chairman Steele. I think he does his job pretty well, on balance.

  145. 145
    eemom says:

    Ended up watching. Mostly meh’d, but the last 10 minutes were fucking awesome.

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    Baud says:


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    Poopyman says:

    @raven: Like I said below, they were losing daylight. Time to shit or cut bait. Or something.

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    magurakurin says:

    @Comrade Mary:

    Early reports are that the cops deliberately set fire to Dorner’s cabin.

    They must be some cops from Philly who moved to LA back in ’85.

  149. 149
    Corner Stone says:

    American Exceptionalism Bitchez!

  150. 150
    NotMax says:

    Ah, if only Obama had whipped out 2 computer disks and said “Here on these disks are my administration’s jobs bill and my administration’s budget proposal.”

    Then turned around, handed them to Boehner, and asked for a handshake commitment to bring them both to the floor for a vote within 100 days.

  151. 151
    raven says:

    @RareSanity: Yea, the Dawgs are playing Bama right now! I’m into hoop big time, it’s the baseball season that kills me.

  152. 152
    Corner Stone says:

    Ummm, that wasn’t at all what I heard Rubio. I would’ve had massively tiny boners if that’s what was said.

  153. 153
    Cain says:

    Rubio rockin with that teleprompter!

  154. 154
    Ted & Hellen says:

    Of course they fried Dorner in a fire. It is the code of silence being enforced with impunity by rogue cops.

    Crispy dead men tell no tales.

  155. 155
    RareSanity says:

    Wow…Rubio’s ears are huge.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    They’re just so big in proportion to his head…they’re almost mesmerizing…can’t look away from the ears…

  156. 156
    Poopyman says:

    @magurakurin: Nah, they just wanted to do the same thing their daddies did on the SLA back in ’72.

  157. 157
    Cassidy says:

    I see Rubio has practiced his mastery of bullshit.

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    General Stuck says:

    @Comrade Mary:

    There was never the slightest chance Dorner would survive this. Rogue cops that capture the world’s attention by outing dirty department laundry, and promise to out more, all have to die. Especially after killing two cops. They said it was tear gas, but nobody believes them. I’m not one who has any sympathy for the man, as he murdered a pair of civilians to start his war. But I have no doubt the LAPD is rotten racist to the core, and have been a very long time.

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    mdblanche says:

    Interesting fact: while the rift between establishment and tea party Republicans is so wide that they need to give two separate SOTU responses, the two Senators delivering them both voted against the Violence Against Women Act earlier today.

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    Dan says:

    Hey Rubio, nice speech. For 2010.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Corner Stone: I don’t mind American Exceptionalism when it is used as a motivational tool. A “damn it, we should be better than this” sort of thing.

  162. 162
    raven says:

    @Poopyman: Fuckin A, I wouldn’t have cared if they put a hellfire on his ass. Willie Peter make you a believer.

  163. 163
    GregB says:

    Now Marco Rubio for the Tiger Beat response to the State of the Union.

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    Poopyman says:

    You guys actually watching Rubio? What’s the point?

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    Ted & Hellen says:

    Doesn’t “American Exceptionalism” posit that we already ARE better than everyone else, so why change anything?

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    gian says:

    Dorner probably shot himself first. Local CBS affiliate managed to have repoter at the scene … it was tear gas launched in followed by demand to surrender. Followed by single shot from inside

    Then they let it burn

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    Elizabelle says:

    Some beautiful dogs.

    I want them all.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Rubio is one of the whiniest little weenies I’ve ever seen. “Waaahhhh!! Obama says mean things about people that lie about him!”

  169. 169
    Baud says:


    He’s just a chaser for the real deal: Rand Paul

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    ChrisNYC says:

    The absolutely most appealing thing about Rubio is that his heart’s not in it. I like that he just oozes that he’s happy with a nice family and a good job. Won’t get him to the WH though.

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    Big gummint caused the housing disaster!

    Obamacare killed the mom’n’pop!

    Recycling the ol’ “I’m from the government” boogeyman.

    But he comes off as weak tea, at best.

  172. 172
    raven says:

    @Poopyman: Picture in Picture with the hoop on the big screen.

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    NotMax says:

    Marco, it’s nighttime. In winter.

    Close the freakin’ curtains to conserve energy.

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    Corner Stone says:

    ACORN thugs!!

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    TaMara (BHF) says:

    Rubio speaks to the base. How is that 27% going to make him a rock star?

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    BobS says:

    The usual Obama feel-good stuff. When he leaves office in 2017, the only thing he mentioned tonight that will be a reality is the Trans Atlantic Partnership, the latest iteration of NAFTA he’s so enthusiastic about

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    Baud says:


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    Darkrose says:

    “Hello, I’m Marco Rubio, and I support violence against women.”

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    RareSanity says:

    Tonight’s response to the State of The Union, is being brought to you by Fox News.

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    David in NY says:

    I think a chant of “Vote, vote, vote” is always appropriate.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Probably a wise choice, but I prefer to point and mock.

    Rubio doesn’t look as goofy as Jindal, but his ideas are no different.

    Christ, he’s even bringing up privatization of schools as “choice”. He seems to be trying to be decisive and insightful, but someone over coached him on the hand gestures thing. He looks like he is chopping vegetables at a Benihana.

    ETA: OMG, he just ducked and slurped from a water (?) glass! It looked…rather odd.

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    TriassicSands says:


    I’m listening to Rubio right now — and he’s an idiot, but then he’s a Republican so that goes without saying.

    Rubio could give this speech while hiding in a closet with no contact with outside world and just the collected speeches of Milton Friedman and a copy of Atlas Shrugged to supply his material.

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    Baud says:

    Damn, I’m not looking forward to hearing this again in Spanish…and I don’t speak Spanish.

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    raven says:

    “We must follow through on the broken promises of the past”. Mensa motherfucker.

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    fleeting expletive says:

    Marco R sports an impressive five o’clock shadow.

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    Ted & Hellen says:


    Of course you wouldn’t care. You are an authoritarian moron with no respect for the (alleged) judicial system of the country you’re always frothing about having “served.”

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    BD of MN says:

    dammit, I had Benghazi before Soylndra in the pool…

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    Anya says:

    @raven: Tweedy is emotionally ify at best. He’s hot and cold towards the president. It’s hard to predict him.

    @Anne Laurie: Isn’t there a frontpager who’s assigned to the wingnut beat.

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    the Conster says:


    I just read that in Eeyore’s voice.

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    Corner Stone says:

    We need student aid that funnels money directly to shady for-profit educational shams and high interest payments to scummy banks.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Yeah you stupid fuck! On motherfucking Iraq!

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    Baud says:


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    batgirl says:

    We need nontraditional programs, like those bullshit for-profit online “colleges” that milk your and the government’s money without delivering much.

    How many lies, Rubio? I’ve lost track.

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    raven says:

    @Ted & Hellen: Yea, you are right, they should have talked him out with your punk ass as a human shield.

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    Lord Jesus Perm says:

    Rubio’s response is Bobby Jindal level bad.

    This is embarrassing.

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    TaMara (BHF) says:

    Outright lies are all they have, isn’t it?

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    mdblanche says:

    @the Conster: There’s a reason the Democratic Party symbol is a donkey.

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    Republicans: “We ain’t got nuttin’. Lie your ass off for 20 minutes, Marco.”

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    batgirl says:

    @Corner Stone: You said that much better than I did.

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    Ted & Hellen says:


    You guys actually watching Rubio? What’s the point?

    Maybe so they know what he actually said?

    So they can, you know, have an informed opinion?

    Oh. Never mind…

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    NotMax says:

    Rubio is salivating at like a pint a minute.

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    Old Dan and Little Ann says:

    Does Rubio have a lisp or is my tv fucked up?
    ETA That grab for the water was hysterical.

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    MobiusKlein says:

    quoting from the best:

    I really don’t understand how bipartisanship is ever going to work when one of the parties is insane. Imagine trying to negotiate an agreement on dinner plans with your date, and you suggest Italian and she states her preference would be a meal of tire rims and anthrax. If you can figure out a way to split the difference there and find a meal you will both enjoy, you can probably figure out how bipartisanship is going to work the next few years.

    still true after 4 years

    I told my wif this quote and she got it in one.

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    YellowJournalism says:

    Rubio reminds me of the biggest douchebag on the high school debate team. He has a certain cadence to his speech that comes off as condescending and dickish.

    Presenting school choice as advocacy for children with special needs is wrong in so many ways.

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    gogol's wife says:

    @the Conster:

    LOL. It works.

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    BD of MN says:

    shorter Rubio: “Medicare cuts for thee, not for me (and my mom)…”

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    GregB says:


    He LIES!

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    ChrisNYC says:

    What is the breathing in sound? And the gesturing! Excessive gesturing! Bill Clinton is just shaking his head, patronizingly. Holy moly! The Water!

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    Corner Stone says:

    That was awful.

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    Face says:

    Someone forgot to tell Michigan there was a game tonite.
    Also, too Rubio just oooooooooozzzes the phony.

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    Throwin Stones says:

    WTF. Is Rubio Jindal Jr?

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    RareSanity says:


    Rubio: Hold on a sec, I need a sip of water…

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    Corner Stone says:

    Moral breakdown?

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    Baud says:

    Dry Mouth kills presidential ambitions!

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    Cassidy says:

    Water break? Amateur.

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    OK, that highly awkward reach for the wawa baba was just the comic relief I needed after listening to this lying goob.

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    Loneoak says:

    Does Rubio have a lisp or another speech deficit? It sounds like his tongue is twice the size it should be.

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    Throwin Stones says:

    WTF. Is Rubio Jindal Jr?
    On stetoids?

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    Todd says:

    Rubio has a horrendous delivery, and is already a victim of SOTU response disease, which has a 100% political career mortality rate.

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    YellowJournalism says:

    Lmfao! That moment with the water bottle just confirmed my first impression.

    That moment was made for SNL parody.

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    batgirl says:

    We need to change Medicare and it will be great. But these great changes won’t affect current retirees. Why not, Rubio, if these reforms are so great?

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    Does anyone think this guy Rubio is in any way selling the Republican agenda?

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    ChrisNYC says:

    Oh my and the looking back at the camera mid reach! It’s a killer.

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    Todd says:



    Tweaking. Meth will do that.

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    BobS says:

    @the Conster: Then you won’t mind if I read your comment in Peter Pan’s voice?

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    ChrisNYC says:

    “Next chapter” and the student loan thing. Both cold stolen from President Obama.

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    danielx says:

    Quote from TPM from the…Rubio Speech Live Blog

    10:30 PM: Okay, probably better than Jindal.

    Talk about your soft bigotry of low expectations; giving a better speech than Jindal did in his SoTU rebuttal doesn’t require much heavy lifting.

    This shit just about writes itself, don’t it now?

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    batgirl says:

    Ouch, that smile at the end.

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    Corner Stone says:

    What’s exceptionally sad is that Marco Rubio just blew Bobby Jindal’s speech out of the water.

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    GregB says:

    He looked like a kid stealing a sip from daddy’s beer.

    This sweaty whinging clown is finished.

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    sb says:

    Is Rubio giving his rebuttal from a sauna?

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    sb says:

    Is Rubio giving his rebuttal from a sauna?

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    mdblanche says:

    ¿Dónde estaba el español?

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    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    Just listened/watched Marco, Kenneth the Page was better.

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    NotMax says:

    Guess the GOP couldn’t rustle up a 103-year-old to one-up the prez.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    Also, waiting to see if anyone airs his Spanish address…..I can see 27% of the audience (ok, maybe more) going WTF?) Oh, and I speak/understand Spanish.

    Tweety’s actually ripping Rubio a new one.

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    mouse tolliver says:

    I can’t believe someone thought it would be a good idea to let Albert Brooks respond to the president.

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    👽 Martin says:

    Rubio has pretty good potential as a speaker, but that speech was shit. It was usual teatard puke. And the water bottle? Come on!

    And there’s a MORE teatard speech coming yet? GOP isn’t doing shit to attract voters with this crap.

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    Loneoak says:

    Okay, what’s the #InvisibleObama equivalent of the Rubio water debacle?


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    Elizabelle says:

    Y’all are watching Rubio. I am seeing an Affenpinscher named Banana Joe. After a smooth haired terrier.

    These dogs are cool as cukes and telling no lies.

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    NotMax says:


    It was pre-recorded several days ago for use on Spanish-language media.

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    danielx says:


    Don’t know about the best, but one of Cole’s best; worthy of Charlie Pierce on a rampage. Though I’d have substituted two day old Big Macs for tire rims.

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    mdblanche says:

    Shorter Rubio: The President’s so mean to us. It’s not faaaaair.

    @NotMax: That figures. He wouldn’t want to have it someplace the old white guys might hear it, would he?

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    g says:

    That’s OK, Marco. My mouth gets dry when I’m lying, too.

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    Comrade Mary says:

    The Rubio Rehydration Moment of 2013 has already been giffed.

    I love the Internets.

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    batgirl says:

    I really don’t get this Republican obsession with “The President is picking on us.” The Republicans continually complain about Obama, call him names and question his motives and I don’t see Obama running around like a child screaming Stop picking of me. Its politics. Get used to it or get out.

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    NotMax says:



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    NotMax says:



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    Comrade Jake says:

    @Comrade Mary:

    Stay thirsty my friends!

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    Anne Laurie says:


    Does Rubio have a lisp or another speech deficit?

    My Puerto Rican acquaintances have always complained that Cubans lisp, in Spanish and English.

    Not watching Rubio right now, so don’t know if it’s a personal idiolect or a mother-tongue itheeyu issue.

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    mir13 says:

    I feel sorry for anyone with the unenviable task of following an Obama speech. Remember Dick Vader’s Dueling Torture speech? Neither does anyone else. Messed up the old dude so bad he needed a new heart. Get the hook!

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    mouse tolliver says:

    Rubio might know who Tupac is, but somebody should’ve told him what The Borg is. I can’t believe he used the word “assimilate” with all the negative connotations it has.

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    Loneoak says:


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    gogol's wife says:

    @Comrade Mary:

    Thank you! I can’t stand to watch these things live, but my curiosity was piqued!

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    amk says:

    @Comrade Mary: LOL. Love it.

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    Loneoak says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    It might have been his dry mouth as the sole or aggravating cause. Right after I wrote that he had the infamous drink.

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    Comrade Mary says:

    Oh, God, the video clip. He’s an overdressed Boy Scout on a day hike through Death Valley.

    Talks too fast, too.

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    g says:

    It’s OK, Marco. My mouth gets dry when I’m lying, too.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @batgirl: I didn’t watch it, but from what people are saying and tweeting– he brought up fucking Solyndra, fercrissake?– Rubio did the same thing Romney did, and Republicans have been doing for five years, they’re just talking to themselves. I’m surprised he didn’t bring up the Benghazi talking points

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    danielx says:

    @👽 Martin:

    But if they let Ted Nugent speak, he’ll by god make sure that the 27% don’t stray off the reservation*, if he has to shoot every last one of them.

    *Not that they would – after all, where are they going to go, politically speaking? The Angry White Guy Party just doesn’t make it from a marketing standpoint, even if that’s really what they are already.

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    amk says:

    mayor colemans’ tweet

    Can’t tell: is Rubio suffering from dry mouth or are his ideas just so old and withered they’re sapping his last drops of moisture?

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    mouse tolliver says:

    @Anne Laurie: For me, the hardest part of Rosetta Stone’s standard Spanish lessons is that lisp. Growing up gay in the south, a lisp is something to be avoided if possible. Your life may depend on it.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Comrade Mary:

    The Rubio Rehydration Moment of 2013 has just been giffed.

    It was almost like he was reaching over to grab a pair of dirty panties to sniff deeply of.
    Like he knew he shouldn’t but he just could not fucking help himself.

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    GxB says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Rubio did the same thing Romney did, and Republicans have been doing for five years, they’re just talking to themselves.

    The chicken must be fucked.

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    NotMax says:

    Rubio: the face that launched a thousand sips.

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    JustRuss says:

    If you overlook all the lying, Rubio did OK. I thought the “economy shrank last quarter” meme had been debunked, but I guess he didn’t get the memo.

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    Baud says:

    Where’s Paul? Maybe he’ll eat some BBQ during his speech?

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    Corner Stone says:


    I am seeing an Affenpinscher

    I was accused of that once. I was probably guilty of it but I honestly had no idea what they were talking about.

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    Corner Stone says:


    Though I’d have substituted two day old Big Macs

    What’s..uh..wrong with two day old Big Macs?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:


    If you overlook all the lying, Rubio did OK

    Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

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    Suzanne says:

    I just watched the water break. Good Lord, that was AWKWARD. Totally killed my boner.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @batgirl: They aren’t used to be treated like this as party leaders. Oh, no. They can spend four years castigating Pelosi as the madwoman madame mao until she isn’t speaker anymore, but noting that their guy kinda cries and maybe drinks. Boo hoo.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Will someone please spritz Ginsburg in the face with some ice water? Take a hint from tha freakin’ Pope lady!

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    amk says:

    @NotMax: lmao. so stolen and tweeted.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    So is anybody showing the Teabagger response? Or did it just appear on Faux News?

    Ok, Rachel is talking about it – apparently it was only online.

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    Baud says:

    @dance around in your bones:

    I was waiting for it on MSNBC. How was it?

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    mir13 says:

    Enough of the opening band. Bring on the white guys. Paulie and the Nuge! ‘MuricaFuckYeah! And if we’re really lucky a Meat Loaf/Mitt Romney duet of ‘Murica The Beautiful. The GOP, love ’em or leave ’em.

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    GregB says:

    Rand Paul stopped his speech midstream to dip his balls in a mug of hot water.

    Less awkward than Rubio.

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    scav says:

    Rubio: Ready to lead the Sip of State..

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    ETAA: “The families of Newton deserve a vote!” Standing-o & shouts of agreement.

    Please, it is Newtown, not Newton. Personal pet peeve of my as a former resident.

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    @Elizabelle: banana joe is hilarious. Didn’t watch tonight but saw him over the weekend in some lesser contest.

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    GxB says:

    Did anyone ever track down what was up with the unhinged contingent of the Supremes? Did they actually blow the whole thing off?

    Christ… What a (pack of) asshole(s)

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    Comrade Mary says:

    @Suzanne: You and Ben Smith are in the same boat now, sweetie.

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    the Conster says:


    oh snap

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    Corner Stone says:


    Maybe he’ll eat some BBQ during his speech?

    Wouldn’t that be awesome if he did a variation on the Chris Rock BBQ rib riff?
    “How much for just one rib?”

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Baud: I’m still waiting for it on MSNBC.

    Rachel only alluded to it as being available online and showed a picture of the curly headed son.

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    Corner Stone says:

    I think Robert Gibbs sucks, but he just stuck Rubio right in the frackin face with that “lurch left for water” line.

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    woozywinks says:

    NPR coverage studiously avoids any mention of voting rights.. At lest the first 20 minutes i listened to.. So awful

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    NotMax says:

    Sour, bitter grapes.

    Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia criticized the annual State of the Union ritual Tuesday night, calling the presidential speech something worth skipping because it is a “rather silly affair.”

    One of three justices who did not attend President Obama’s speech at the U.S. Capitol — along with Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito — Scalia bemoaned that “it has turned into a childish spectacle, and I don’t think that I want to be there to lend dignity to it.”  Source

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    jamick6000 says:


    I really don’t get this Republican obsession with “The President is picking on us.”

    They have a massive self-victimization complex

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    Mike in NC says:

    Rubio shit the bed, but Chuck Turd on MSNBC will argue otherwise.

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    Elizabelle says:


    he is cute as can be, and spirited

    ETA: as one could say about Miss Nordstrom shopper. She’s darling.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @NotMax: Unfortunately, can’t really blame him on this. When you have elected reps bringing The Nuge to it, and all applause lines are predicted, what’s the point?

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    TriassicSands says:


    Tony Calzone thinks he “lends dignity” to events.

    That’s rich.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @NotMax: Oh, like Scalia could lend dignity to anything.

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    Loneoak says:


    I don’t think that I want to be there to lend dignity to it.

    Yeah, I don’t think dignity works in that direction.

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    debit says:

    @GregB: This just caused me to laugh convulsively for at least ten minutes. I am now drained and happy. It was better than my last orgasm. Thank you.

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    eemom says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Please, it is Newtown, not Newton.

    The Prez distinctly said Newtown, I noted.

    Su pet peevas es mi pet peevas.

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    Smiling Mortician says:

    @Corner Stone: Well, yeah, but the notion that Scalia’s presence would lend dignity to the occasion is pretty fucking funny.

    ETA: Well, shit. I’m a slower typist than I thought.

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    sb says:

    @Corner Stone: You think Scalia says the same thing if a Republican were president? You think he, Thomas and Alito stay home? EDIT: Or would think it beneath them for the sake of ‘dignity’?

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    GxB says:


    I don’t think that I want to be there to lend dignity to it.

    Oh FFS! Dignity and Scalia aren’t even in the same zip code.

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    NotMax says:

    @Corner Stone

    Howzabout a modicum of respect for the office of the President, for the performance of a Constitutional duty no originalist can deny, and for the public exercise of government gathered together?

    The whole Nugent brouhaha I don’t get. If he has a ticket, he can attend and stay so long as he abides by the decorum. End of story. That he’s a nutball is beside the point.

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    Donut says:


    Oh shit, that was funny. Teabagging gone horribly wrong.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @debit: I…uh..please don’t spritz me with patchouli scent.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @dance around in your bones: aw, come on, he’s is rockin’ that Saint Thomas More hat with all kinds of digni ‘tude. I can’t find a good picture of his famous “vaffanculo” moment.

    I didn’t watch it for the reasons Corner Stone cited. But I would remind Fat Tony that 1) it was Reagan who started turning the SOTU into showbiz with the stunt guests, which I hate no matter who is president 2) we were all supposed to be outraged that Obama criticized the Vestal Virgins of the Court, if they’re all ceremonial high priests, they should show up for the ceremonies

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    cckids says:

    @Dan: I know, right? It was like he was playing Tea Party Bingo. Only thing missing was a Gadsden Flag lapel pin.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    So has anyone heard from the Nuge since the SOTU ended? No pithy comments, insults, big balls up in your face comments to POTUS?

    Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

    Did he even actually attend? (and why do I care?)

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    NotMax says:

    Wondering how undignified the inauguration would have been without Scalia present.

    Answer: Not a whit.

    Hope the Supreme Court has extra-wide doorways that Scalia can squeeze his inflated head through.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @sb: He hates The Islamic Shock. Why would I expect him to act differently?
    They shattered the legitimacy, and dignity, of the SCOTUS in Bush v Gore.
    Let that motherfucker sing out like he was auditioning for “Singing in the Rain”.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Oh gawd, that hat. I busted a gut or two.

    Supreme GRAVITAS! He thinks he haz it!

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    @Elizabelle: Thanks! Have a good night.

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    Anya says:

    Guardian US social news editor Katie Rogers flags the speech’s most-tweeted moments, in numbers provided by Twitter’s government team:

    ~24,000: Tweets-per-minute during the most-tweeted moment of the state of the union — when Obama covered middle class opportunity and minimum wage.

    637: The number of tweets sent by members of Congress tonight.

    ~9,200: Tweets-per-minute during the most-tweeted moment of Rubio’s GOP response — when Rubio gulped water, obviously.

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    Platonicspoof says:

    Not that it matters, but the full text of
    Rand Paul’s response (or whatever it is, I only read the first web page) is at Politico.

    I thought at least Fox would carry it, but haven’t seen it there yet.

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    Mezz (apa Michael2) says:

    @Corner Stone: Wow. I was kind of thinking the same thing – the lunge couldn’t be helped – but lacked the . . uh . vivid imagery. (And I believe yours is most apt.)

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    JS says:


    Try not to speak just before Barack Obama does.


    Never, NEVER speak just after Barack Obama does.

    Established January 3, 2008.

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    vtr says:

    NPR exhumed Mona F. Charen to comment on the SOTU and GOP response. Mona Charen. It chose not to bother with R. Paul.

    Rubio’s thoroughly weasel-speech I think would earn him a B, in his 10th grade speech class.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @vtr: Waiting for John Dickerson to chime how Rubio made a very eloquent argument, but it just wasn’t executed very well. Then he’ll continue on to state what the eloquent argument was and declare Rubio to have given the best speech of the night.

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    amk says:

    @JS: stolen.

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    amk says:

    bin laden weighs in.

    Ever see me reach for water in one of my videos? Don’t think so. And that was in the fucking desert.

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    MoeLarryAndJesus says:

    I like how they sat Nugent next to Elton John’s stunt double.

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    WaterGirl says:


    Rand Paul stopped his speech midstream to dip his balls in a mug of hot water.

    Less awkward than Rubio.

    That was so good I must have read it about 5 times.

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    dance around in your bones says:


    Ha! I made a valiant effort but also couldn’t be arsed to go past page one. Muy patético.

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    max says:

    @dance around in your bones: Did he even actually attend? (and why do I care?)

    Behold! A giant bag of douche!

    He could record a new hit (to replace the one old hit!)! ‘I Need An Enema!’

    It appears that Dorner was not in the cabin when it burned to the ground, begging the question of whether or not he was in it in the first place. (A LEO got killed so presumably Dorner shot him, but after that, it is the big murk.) Extra bonus fun: they chased off the news helicopters, but the lady who owned the cabin said there is no wired access. So not much point to it exactly.

    [‘Lots of ammo was expended, so a big win there.’]

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    Steeplejack says:

    @mouse tolliver:

    Drop the lisp and tell people you’re doing Latin American Spanish, not Castilian. Problemo solvado. (Not intended to be factual Spanish.)

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @max: Oooooh! Ted’s got his moue face on!


    FFS – Boner actually said this?

    “…he would like “a little foreplay first” from the president before embracing a path to citizenship for undocumented workers in an immigration bill. ”

    Talk about sublimation.

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    handsmile says:

    That BIG GULP you’re hearing is from the Village media en masse suddenly realizing that the national political future of its most recently anointed “GOP Savior” has just been flushed away.

    Marco, no mas, no mas….

    Also too, tomorrow’s word: “Xerostomia.”

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    wasabi gasp says:

    A juice box might have been endearing.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    New thread up top, for completists…

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    lojasmo says:

    @Ted & Hellen:

    Most of the other people here can read.

    Your mileage may vary. Though from the comments I gather it was a fun watch.

    On topic, The pres. killed it.

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    Corner Stone says:


    On topic, The pres. killed it.

    Oh God. This is awful. Should we recommend you for another 3 days off without pay so you can run trails barefoot?
    This imagery…so violent. What’s it going to take for you to understand your violent threats of violence just aren’t acceptable in society?
    You’re not Jack Nicholson in Wolf, for God’s sake.
    Please don’t hurt me for pointing this simple plea out.

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    Original Lee says:

    Did anybody else notice that Rubio did NOT say from where his parents emigrated? Is this because Cubans consider themselves superior to other Hispanics, or for some other reason?

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    Yutsano says:

    @Original Lee: All browns look alike and think alike. Therefore Spanish surname = instant WIN to the Republicans. They’re just the housecleaners after all.

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    Gian says:


    it’s just confused reports. the news stations are in LA, and have LAPD employee sources. Since the cabin is in san Bernardino county, and it was their deputies who were shot and at least one killed. San Bernardino county is the primary source for what happened.

    What they say is they haven’t gone into the cabin to look for the body.

    I expect it may be like the old game of telephone

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    Original Lee says:

    @Yutsano: I thought it might be something like that.

    This just occurred to me, though: Rubio’s Spanish probably has a Cuban accent, so he didn’t need that line for the Spanish version of the speech and consequently left it out of the English-language version. (A small benefit of the doubt.)

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    lojasmo says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Wow. I hope your dainty hands aren’t permanently dented from your pearls.

    Have a nice day, sweetie.

    ETA: Stalking behavior can be seen as violent in itself. You may want to check that.

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    Full Metal Wingnut says:

    @max: That’s a shame. I was having fun with all the concern trolls over the fire death.

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