Open Thread

Looks like whatever I did helped some but not others. I can’t do any more from where I sit. Cole and his site people will have to take a look.

Here’s another open thread for we few, we happy few, who can see the site.

136 replies
  1. 1
    S. Holland says:

    I am one of the few, uuhh happy few, who can see the site! Am I alone in here?

  2. 2
    Nalbar says:

    Nope, you are not alone

  3. 3
    srv says:

    Is there a term for these brownouts? Maybe Tunchouts?

    Anyone have John’s support number? Maybe we could call his mom.

  4. 4
    Corner Stone says:

    Nope, site still loads “Strange Ranger” when coming to it cold.
    The bork, it is strong with this site hmmmm??

  5. 5
    Peej says:

    I’m having no problem whatever coming in on my iPad using Safari.

  6. 6
    Comrade Mary says:

    Front page loaded perfectly and my credenza is intact. Yay ^2!

    Thanks, mistermix!

  7. 7
    freelancer says:

    What was that gmail address that Cole gave out to address rebuild issues?

  8. 8
    Maude says:

    For me on updated FF, the site loads with all of the posts. The comments needed to be F5’d.
    Still knows my name.

  9. 9
    gbear says:

    I’m one of the few, but I’m still at work so I’m not one of the happy. I got here via Internet Explorer. Haha all you browser snobs.

  10. 10
    srv says:

    @freelancer: Maybe John took all the money and moved to Newark.

  11. 11
    Davis X. Machina says:

    Never had any problems, OS X 10.7, Firefox and a ’09 era Macbook.

    Is it a ‘mobile’ thing? I have been informed by my children that it is possible to look at the Internet using one’s cellphone, of all things.

    I refuse to believe such codswallop, but there you are.

  12. 12
    Schlemizel says:

    For he today that sheds his bits with me shall be my brother
    And gentlemen in England now a-bed
    Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks

    – Hank 5 by Billy S

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    Riley's Enabler says:

    It’s showing up fine on my desktop/Firefox (new posts! new comments!) but on the iphone it gives no steady love.

    72 and sunny in TX today. Say what you will about our politics, our winters they do not suck.

  14. 14
    The Dangerman says:

    Still hosed in Chrome.

    Time for a theme song for this crisis:

    A bork is a bork,
    of course of course,
    and no one can post with this site borked,
    of course,
    that is of course,
    unless the bork,
    is fixed by the famous Mister Cole*

    *or Tunch, whoever runs the place

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    Comrade Mary says:

    @Maude: If it is partially fixed but it still knows your name, then you have balloon-juice cookies hanging around. Try clearing cache and just the site cookies (Tools | Options | Privacy | remove individual cookies).

    You will have to re-enter your credentials one more time, but it should be fine (I think) after that.

  16. 16
    freelancer says:


    Why choose New Jersey?

  17. 17
    aangus says:

    I was only 11 when I first heard this….

    just sayin’

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    Arm The Homeless says:

    @Riley’s Enabler: We have three blooming Azaleas in our yard and a lovely coating of pine sperm on everything here in N Florida. These past two winters have been very odd, but I am sure it’s just sun spots or something…

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    mai naem says:

    chrome here

  20. 20
    catclub says:

    @Corner Stone: It loaded the Stranger Ranger thread for me, until I restarted Firefox.
    Now it shows this thread.

  21. 21
    Schlemizel says:

    @Arm The Homeless:

    I never had an allergy until I lived in FL. Then one day I walked out of my house & everything was a lovely shade of gold, the house the car, the street, even the air was golden with crap falling from the pine trees. Now I have some sort of hay fever every summer.

  22. 22
    jl says:

    OK, open thread. I have a few items. First, pro-tip for politically active type here, DO NOT criticize Chris Christie’s weight unless you have an unlisted phone number.

    Second, heroic dogs are in the news today.

    Stella! Ornery dog leads to $1M Idaho lottery win

    Homeless man sends his dog for help, dog saves the day
    By Claudine Zap
    The Lookout

    The hero dog’s name is ‘Buddy’. Dude, how can you beat that kind of Lassie action?

  23. 23
    RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    successful with IE in Detroit over VPN thru Germany.

    But I have nothing to say.

  24. 24
    longtime lurk says:

    I can see the blog fine, so congratulations. I also want to congratulate this blog on its fine, intensive coverage of the Brennan confirmation hearing and all issues related to it. Major kudos!!

  25. 25
    geg6 says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Yup, very strong borking. I’ve tried everything I can think of and nothing is working.

  26. 26
    RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    Here’s a site question: I want to change my commenting Name. I’ve tried posting under a different name and emai laddress, but I get Moderated. Probably because FYWP is sniffing my IP Address.
    How is a change of Name accomplished? I kinda need to go a little more anonymous.

  27. 27
    Schlemizel says:


    BTW _ I know a lot of people are familiar with that one soliloquy from Hank 5 but the background for it make the whole scene more dramatic.

    The English are about to meet the French in battle & are outnumbers 3 or 4 to 1. One of the Dukes wishes out loud that they had but 10,000 of the idle men currently in England by their side. Hank calls him out & says “No, we are much better off with out those guys” and then explains how they will never be able to feel like real men because they did not show up to get their asses handed to them on St. Crispins Day.

    Its really quite moving & particularly so when you think of the times you may have stood up in a losing cause & wished you had more by your side. Say, from 1999 through 2008 at least every day and way to often in many years around those.

    He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
    Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
    And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
    He that shall live this day, and see old age,
    Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
    And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Crispian:’
    Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
    And say ‘These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.’
    Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
    But he’ll remember with advantages
    What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
    Familiar in his mouth as household words

  28. 28
    geg6 says:

    @Davis X. Machina:

    I can’t get it to load in right in either my phone or my desktop at work. And I won’t even try it on my laptop at home since that thing crashes if you breathe on it too hard.

  29. 29
    catclub says:

    @RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist: Post twice with new nym. Be patient.

    You automatically get moderated as both new and using the same email as ‘another’ poster.

  30. 30
    geg6 says:

    And the people I work with wonder why I despise all things Disney…

  31. 31
    Maude says:

    @Comrade Mary:
    It still has my name. I have eaten all the cookies.
    We are just starting the snow here. It won’t really come in until tonight.

  32. 32
    Squirrel2634 says:

    A simple F5 refresh brought it back for me.

  33. 33
    Ultraviolet Thunder says:


    Post twice with new nym. Be patient.
    You automatically get moderated as both new and using the same email as ‘another’ poster

    Thanks. We’ll see if this works.

  34. 34
    BGinCHI says:

    Just had lunch with one of the main bloggers at the Orange Satan. She used to be a student of mine.

    Very smart lady.

    What’s the B-J term for bragging about something? There must be one.

  35. 35
    jl says:

    @BGinCHI: Student whoring, maybe. I would avoid that term, might produce misunderstandings and get you fired.

  36. 36
    Bnad says:

    Using Chrome and was only seeing “Strange Ranger” since yesterday, then cleared my cache (back to the beginning of time) and it worked. But it looks like I need to keep re-clearing my cache in order to see new articles on the BJ front page.

  37. 37
    BGinCHI says:

    @jl: Hmm, that’s definitely not what I was looking for.

    How about “blagging”?

  38. 38
    EconWatcher says:


    Just saw that play last week at the Folger in DC. It was teh awesome. I’m working on memorizing the St. Crispin’s Day speech during my daily train rides.

    It’s amazing how Shakespeare can make you want to stand up and shout when he’s really on a roll, as he is with that speech.

  39. 39
    Seanly says:

    No problems with the site using IE 8 (work has proprietary web apps that don’t play well with other browsers or IE 9).

    However, I am looking forward to an angry rant from a rum-soaked Mr. Cole. Something like “snargle, snargle, FO&D if site doesn’t work, snargle, snargle, I’m gonna go pet Lily”

  40. 40
    Maude says:

    #33, commenting.

  41. 41
    scav says:

    still in the odd but present camp I think. So. Maybe fit for the band of half-siblings and second cousins of varying moods?

  42. 42
    BGinCHI says:

    @EconWatcher: Should I link to an article of mine on HV?

    Wow, I’m really full of myself today….

  43. 43
    muddy says:

    I haven’t had the slightest trouble with the site (mac/chrome), and feel a little left out. I won’t be able to talk about the dreadful sitebork episode later. Just like the sleeping Englishmen on St. Crispin’s Day, o woe.

  44. 44
    max says:

    I was having to close the browser (flushing all cookies) and restart to get things to reload, in Chrome, Firefox and IE. However, just now, a close and reload results in the front page now updating correctly.

    I’m thinking the problem was webcaches somewhere along the line not updating.

    [‘Fixxored. Thanks.’]

  45. 45
    EconWatcher says:


    Yes, please. Do you teach?

  46. 46
    max says:

    Yep. My name just appeared on the front page.

    [‘Thanks mastermix!’]

  47. 47
    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Just hold down the shift key and refresh the page and it will update correctly.

  48. 48
    scav says:

    @BGinCHI: Stop being half-full of yourself, Unleash the article of HV! Stride that blast!

  49. 49
    jl says:

    @BGinCHI: Sorry, I think ‘____ whoring’ is the conventional formula for any thing you are bragging about or advertising at a family safe blog like BJ (which should clue us all in on that point).

    You will have to pioneer a new term, ‘blagging’ is fine with me.

  50. 50
    Comrade Mary says:

    Aw, fuck. Broken on Chrome again. (Clicked the banner to go back to the home page and got Strange ranger again. Luckily, I think the Next / Previous links inside each post are working.

  51. 51
    Tonal Crow says:

    We’ll have fun fun fun now that site-work’s made this blog such a mess.

  52. 52
    Elizabelle loves typing her info continuously says:

    When I called up Balloon Juice, I got the Stranger Ranger frontpage and had to scroll through “next post” at the top to get here.

    Woo hoo.

    Access to the blog and nothing to say except: BBS. Off to get car reinspected. New tires.

  53. 53
    22over7 says:

    Seems a bit fragile in chrome, borked to death on my IE whatever number it is, and forgot my name (snif). But we’ll give this a try.

  54. 54
    Ultraviolet Thunder says:

    I heard there would be site work, but I haven’t seen any changes. OTOH, I’ve been using IE, which is like being lobotomized and colorblind. I’ll check it on Chrome and Safari when I get home.

  55. 55
    Mike in NC says:

    @Schlemizel: Most of our neighbors have the same experience. But after 5 years here I no longer get an annual sinus infection in the Spring.

  56. 56
    Elizabelle loves typing her info continuously says:

    And in moderation too.

    The gods may not find my comment worthy of inclusion.

    FWIW: watched Downton Abbey’s episode 5 last night (I think); the Dowager Countess et al at Ethel’s luncheon.

    Many, many hints of times be achanging for the landed gentry.

    Young non-landeds not wanting to go “in to service” anymore. They think they can be bankers or lawyers? The horror.

  57. 57
    PeakVT says:

    Looks fine on this iPad mini (testing at best buy). This keyboard would drive me nuts, though.

  58. 58
    PeakVT says:

    Looks fine on this iPad mini (testing at best buy). This keyboard would drive me nuts, though.

  59. 59
    BGinCHI says:

    @EconWatcher: I’m an English Prof: Shakespeare, etc.

    Here’s a link to the opening but it looks like there isn’t a direct link to Shakespeare Studies out on the web:

  60. 60
    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    Clear Your Browser’s Cache

    Site works fine now in Chrome and FF after clearing the cache.

  61. 61
    BGinCHI says:

    Maybe this is a re-education camp and this is how they separate us.

    It would explain a lot.

  62. 62
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @BGinCHI: Hey, I’m an English prof too! Taught Merchant of Venice earlier this semester. What a weird play.

  63. 63
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @jl: Why is the name for such things “whoring”? Shouldn’t it be “pimping”? You’re pushing something out into the world to get it some attention.

  64. 64
    Cassidy says:

    I think mine is working. Of course, not it will completely go to shit.

  65. 65
    Comrade Mary says:

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate: Yeah, this works once. Or maybe twice. Then it stops working. (Chrome, I’m lookin’ at YOU. Et my damn cookies, too.)

    Firefox seems OK for me after a cookie and cache clearance, but not other people.

    Does anyone else get the feeling that the server is rolling the dice on every load to determine our individual TOLERANCE FOR FRUSTRATION scores?

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    Maude says:

    There other sites that Chrome borks.

  67. 67
    Regnad Kcin says:

    @Mike in NC: Very sorry to have misread that as “anal sinus infection”

    off to get my head checked

    ETA: no issues w site: MacbookAir 10.8.2 / Chrome or FF or Safari

  68. 68
    Maude says:

    @Comrade Mary:
    I bet Tunch has something to do with this.
    No more fat jokes.

  69. 69
    BGinCHI says:

    @FlipYrWhig: Why “weird”?

    Here’s how it works:

    A –> B <– P

    Each relationship is based on desire and money, expressed as a fraction: desire (or love, or hate)/money (value, debt, interest). This holds for all relationships in the play. Portia is a prize in a contest but even Jessica must bring a fortune (in a casket) to the marriage or it's no go.


  70. 70
    Regnad Kcin says:

    @Maude: some js libraries and Chrome are apparently intent on re-fighting the battle of agincourt

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    scav says:

    @BGinCHI: huzzah! That will keep my poor neurons frying for a nice solid bit. So absolutely out of my normal rut. Didn’t even know my epigenetics could be false, so will keep them firmly in line. thanks.

  72. 72
    jl says:

    @FlipYrWhig: I am neither aware of, nor responsible for, all BJ internet traditions. I am merely relating my understanding of BJ nomenclature. And devising ways to disown responsibility for my comment, in the fine tradition of Henry the V.

    Shakespeare portrayed Henry the V as an Ahole after he got hisself crowned, amirite? As bad in some ways than his sad ol’ dad. Or not?

  73. 73
    Baud says:


    A –> B <– P

    Isn’t that the code that borked this blog?

  74. 74
    jl says:

    @BGinCHI: I read the play and come away with the stench of pious Christian hypocrisy in my nostrils. Is that OK?

  75. 75
    BGinCHI says:

    @Baud: Never go in against a Venetian with death on the line.

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    BGinCHI says:

    @jl: That is very OK. I’d just add a healthy dose of gynophobia and you’re ready to go.

  78. 78
    gelfling545 says:

    On my macbook with Safari I can see today’s posts, on Chrome only yesterday’s.

  79. 79
    danimal says:

    @Seanly: It has been a while since we’ve gotten an epic, drunken rant from our bloghost.

    I think the puppehs have mellowed him, and he lives in fear of His Tunchness.

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    scav says:

    Although given I watched The Enemy Within last night as remedial pop culture, I’m now struggling to decide if it’s a Space-based concentrate of the underlying Henriad (whee! new jargon!) or maybe the Tardis is involved and Leo Penn is actually Shakespeare.

  81. 81
    BGinCHI says:

    @scav: If you rearrange the letters of his name, they spell Lone Pen, so I think you’re on to something.

  82. 82
    mai naem says:

    I was just about to bitch about you guys bitching and moaning about the site cuz mine was working just fine and then karma or whatevah you call it hit me.

  83. 83
    Soonergrunt says:

    I can see the site just fine on IE 9, Firefox 18 and whatever Chrome is part of Android 4.2 running on my phone and my Nexus 7.
    Honestly haven’t had any problems the last few days.

  84. 84
    Trollhattan says:

    Test. Cache. Johnny. Prophylactic FYWP.

    There it is–couldn’t comment to the previous post, went straight to moderation.

  85. 85
    Ultraviolet Thunder says:

    And I’m out of FYWP Mod Jail. So of course the whole site will now disappear completely.

  86. 86
    Baud says:

    I hope the site is finally fixed. I am this close to being productive.

  87. 87
    JoyfulA says:

    I could see it before and can’t see it now on Firefox past about 2 p.m. est. I switched to Chrome, and it looks OK.

  88. 88
    Old Dan and Little Ann says:

    I’ve been reading this site on a Mac using chrome for the last few days and haven’t noticed any problems. FWIW.

  89. 89
    mai naem says:

    I was listening to Stephanie Miller today. She had a funny email from some woman today who said every gun buyer should be forced to go to the only gun store in each state, have to walk past a gauntlet of gun control nuts, be forced to watch videos of mass shootings, then go through a mental exam, then walk out of the gun store past the said gauntlet of gun control nuts with dead body pics, then return in 72 hours after they are given time to think and make sure they really want that gun, walk past the same gun control folks and then they can buy the gun.

  90. 90
    gogol's wife says:

    If I use Firefox, I keep getting “Strange Ranger” with 37 comments, and I have to wait and click on the title of Anne Laurie’s earlier post on the right side of the blog and then keep clicking to “Next Post.” On Safari, it took me to this post.

    I hate blizzards.

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    Crusty Dem says:

    I’m just happy they’ve put Michelle Malkin behind bars. Wire fraud? Can’t say I’m surprised.


  92. 92
    Trollhattan says:


    The Duke of Friday says, “Not on my watch, you don’t.”

  93. 93
    WereBear says:

    I just did a roundup on the “Cats are crazed killers” meme that has been going around:

    Are cats responsible for bird depopulation?

    Verdict: NOT GUILTY!

  94. 94
    freelancer says:

    @Crusty Dem:

    Because there’s more than one person named Michelle Malkin living in the States. The odious, raw-nerve Malkin you’re thinking of lives in Colorado.

  95. 95
    WereBear says:

    Clear the cache, folks! It worked for me on Chrome.

    If you are not tech savvy, it probably has not been done since you got the computer. Do it… you will be amazed.

  96. 96
    Tonal Crow says:

    @Crusty Dem: I don’t think that’s the Malkin of crazy-con fame.

  97. 97
    Baud says:


    Whew. For a while there, I thought there might be something I couldn’t blame Obama for.

  98. 98
    Trollhattan says:

    Stop killing my buzz, dude/dudette!

    Can’t the countertops of Capitol Hill breathe free?

    “As if” Stalkin’ Malkin would ever set foot in, much less run a not-for-profit health clinic.

  99. 99
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    OK, a couple of threads back Baud commented:

    I agree that a lot of people do seem to driven by the suspicion that someone out there is getting something that they don’t deserve, and that that is the cause of all of our problems.

    I agree with this as well. They’re right. There are a great many people out there who are getting something that they don’t deserve.

    Those people are called the 1%.

    This is going on, but those who are loudest about it (the teatards, etc) are failing to identify who the undeserving actually are. They’re not Black, or Hispanic. They’re mostly white, products of Ivy League legacy educations, and have trust funds.

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    scav says:

    @BGinCHI: aaahhh.

    seriously though, to totally discombobulate the thread, does thr Henriad include Riii (sic. ok not so serously). Because the two Hals is really a doubling of the Richard/Henry issue (and there’s the Hal/Hotspur doubling too). Shakespeare can really work a fugue on a theme.

  101. 101
    BGinCHI says:

    @scav: Henriad is RII, 1 & 2 HIV, HV.

    RIII is the final play in what is usually called “the first tetralogy” (HVI parts 1, 2, 3, then RIII).

  102. 102
    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    Now my Name and EMail addy disappeared. Now I’m going to go cut myself, or just go get something pierced(nose, eyebrow?).

  103. 103
    Trollhattan says:

    Can we really be this lucky? Mein Gott, the debates….

    But despite that presidential fade-out and close call back home, Bachmann is again being mentioned as a candidate for higher office — this time as a potential challenger to first-term Democratic Sen. Al Franken in 2014. Bachmann has not signaled publicly her interest in such a race, but her advisers do not deny that she might consider it down the road.


  104. 104
    liberal says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    There are a great many people out there who are getting something that they don’t deserve.
    Those people are called the 1% landowners and other rent collectors.


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    different-church-lady says:

    Didn’t fix the problem for me. Aint’ complaining, just reporting.

    Mac, Firefox 12.0

    ETA: well, maybe it did after all — that’s the first time my name and address has auto-filled all day.

  106. 106
    Baud says:


    The strategy apparently is to cause Franken to die from the internal pressure of snark suppression.

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    liberal says:

    Yeah. Goddamn, I love that speech.

  108. 108
    Riley's Enabler says:

    @Arm The Homeless: PINE SPERM

    I just blew half a coke on my monitor. Thanks!

    (Azaleas are blooming madly here, poor things. Mosquitos will be the size of hippos this spring.)

  109. 109
    Trollhattan says:



    IIRC he was on SNL during the Victoria Jackson era, so that might give him a small window into the tacklebox of crazy that is Michele and company.

  110. 110
    Comrade Mary says:


    Now you’re working perfectly again with no tweaks.

    (Except that you et my credenza again.)

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    scav says:

    @BGinCHI: sorry doubled up my iiis making a pointless Wii joke (which now works even better), thats the Rich I meant. Still, typo lead to elucidation of the next set. I’ve indeed worked my way through all the H6s but damned if I have a clue what’s going on there. But I’ll now think of them as the other Henry/Richard blob rather than a prolonged Henry stutter and the Hunchback.

  112. 112
    susan says:

    I’m trying to find people who will sign my “prosecute the criminal bankers” petition. I only need 99,997 more!

  113. 113
    Baud says:


    It took me a long time for me to believe that VJ wasn’t trolling the wingnuts. I’ve now convinced myself she is a true believer. If she’s not, she is the best goddamn troll since Andy Kaufman.

  114. 114
    PJ says:

    Everyone’s favorite free speech advocate/butterfly unjustly punished for daring to stick it to the man was apparently broken by the authoritarian state, as she apologized to the judge, and he vacated her contempt sentence, and she was freed to complete a sentence of drug treatment:

  115. 115
    Jay in Oregon says:

    From the other thread:

    The Twitter hashtag to follow today is #INeedMasculismBecause

    I don’t know if it started out as serious or as snark, but the tweets are about 50/50.

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    Trollhattan says:


    one of the strangest transformations–or coming out parties–I’ve ever witnessed. Maybe not as surprising as Mamet, but a surprise nevertheless.

    No Toonces, nooooo!

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @BGinCHI: Fair enough, but what the hell is Launcelot “Jar-Jar” Gobbo doing there, and what purpose is the random cross-dressing slapped onto the whole set of legal issues? I can come up with explanations, but it’s still goofy.

  118. 118
    Baud says:


    LOL. Thanks for the memories. I forget about Toonces. He was ahead of its time. Toonces would have been a star on the cat-friendly Internet.

  119. 119
    mainmati says:

    @Comrade Mary: I have a small. credenza at work but the top drawer is broken so you are better off.

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    BGinCHI says:

    @FlipYrWhig: For some great readings of the Gobbo stuff, see Janet Adelman’s recent book on the play.

    The cross dressing has a number of reasons, but the first is that no woman would be allowed to do that in the early modern context. But of course it also allows for the sexual confusion that is important to late in Act 5.

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    different-church-lady says:

    @susan: I’ll sign it as long as we can get a bit more specific about what laws we’re going to prosecute them on.

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    different-church-lady says:


    But despite that presidential fade-out and close call back home, Bachmann is again being mentioned as a candidate for higher office — this time as a potential challenger to first-term Democratic Sen. Al Franken in 2014.

    I’m not sure how the people of Minnesota are going to react to the sight of a woman throwing herself headlong into an industrial grade wood chipper.

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    scav says:

    @FlipYrWhig: But many of the plays seem to have that complete mix of high and low, slapstick and solemn. That whole doorkeeper knock knock joke. I think I’ve heard that explained as pleasing the mixed audience types (blame the groundlings) but I’ve seen it pulled in some early opera too, and I think earlier operas were complete olios of dance, song, recitation, vaguely linked. Just a not unusual thing to do at the time?

  124. 124
    different-church-lady says:

    Yeah, mistermix, everything seems to be back to normal for my rig. Nice work.

  125. 125
    Soonergrunt says:

    @Jay in Oregon: What the fuck is ‘masculism’?

  126. 126
    Baud says:


    If you have to ask, you ain’t got it.

  127. 127
    Gravenstone says:

    Branagh’s take on St. Crispin’s Day

  128. 128
    Ash Can says:

    What the fuck is ‘masculism’?

    Maybe masculism is to masculinity as Christianism is to Christianity.

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    Hill Dweller says:

    @Gravenstone: Saint Crispin’s makes some great shoes.

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    jl says:


    ” But many of the plays seem to have that complete mix of high and low ”

    That Shakespeare stuff is (at least) ‘two layers deep’! You gotta remember that.

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    scav says:

    @jl: I can remember that while also remembering he’s also a pragmatic playwright that had to get bums on seats (and on feet in the other area). Not everything had to part of a deeply considered Gesamtkunstwerk.

    Eta: sometimes a clown is just a clown and a cheap joke is a cheap joke. Lots of things can be read from the palm of a hand.

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    muddy says:

    I took my son to a performance of Macbeth when he was 11. He was horrified and thought it would be awful. I said nothing with sword fights and fart jokes is awful. There were some real belly laughs that night, he was really into it after a few minutes adjusting to the language. Who’d have thought a tragedy was so damn funny?

    The worst is kids reading it out haltingly in turns in HS, I’m glad I knew better before I had that experience.

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    muddy says:

    And after gloating that I had no siteborking, altho a bit sad that I could not join in on the St. Crispin’s-ish group experience, it acted badly. Now I don’t know whether or not I should be pleased.

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    Rosie Outlook says:

    All together now: FVCK YOU WORD PRESS!

    I am using an IPhone and having no problems. I gave up trying to read Balloon Juice on a computer. Life’s too short.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @BGinCHI: true, but there’s no good reason to have wacky sexual confusion dominating the end of the play in the first place. And Antonio has nothing to do, and Shylock just wanders off into oblivion like Poochie returning to his home planet. Needs some editing, I say. Then maybe this Will Shake-scene will have a future in the theater.

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    Steeplejack says:

    Hoping to rebuild my cookies here.

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