What part of this sentence does not fit with the other:
“We, the free men and women of this great nation, affirm everyone’s natural right to speak their mind but we cannot and will not abide the unjust, personal broadside your aide Jonathan Collegio leveled against a man whose family has dedicated itself to advancing the cause of liberty for over half a century…”
Thus, via TPM, we learn how, in the midst of the latest skirmish within the GOP, our friends across the aisle remain Unclear On The Concept…
Mine with extra butter, please.
Image: Andrew Stevovich, ‘Popcorn’ 2008
Omnes Omnibus
Freedom for me, but not for thee.
Yutsano
Shorter conservatives: RESPECT OUR AUTHORITAH!! Don’t you know who we ARE? How DARE you criticise your betters?
soonergrunt (mobile)
The stupid, it burns.
low-tech cyclist
I never cared for popcorn. Pass the chocolate chip cookies, please.
Baud
They will not abide. Don’t you even think about them abiding. They are without abidability.
Capri
It occurred to me that the answer to the R’s problems is to undo the gerrymandered state districts – the ones that are so deep red that any Bozo with a R after their name can get elected. If the only republicans that get elected are ones that can succeed in semi-diverse districts, the Bozo problem takes care of itself overnight. Sure, you’d have a few less Republicans in office overall, but they’d all be able to talk in public.
These nutso rep.s are the equivalent of rare orchids that can only survive in an artificial hot house. This problem is going to be solved by taking down the greenhouses, not by trying to convince folks to only grow daisies in them.
One of those unintended consequences thingies…
Villago Delenda Est
Ok, how about we call Bozell “vile fascist dogshit”.
Fire me, Kkkarl!
maya
Is there a place they send Republican candidates to to become “disciplined”?
Forked Tongue
Let us not forget that Bozell’s dad was so dedicated to the cause of liberty that he moved the family to Spain so they could know the joys of living under Franco.
Raven
@maya: How bout that judge in Miami?
Alex
That letter is hilarious. Really, read the whole thing.
It almost peaks when it starts listing his illustrious uncles, but the last two lines turn it into AMAZING.
Baud
@Alex:
Bozell has two uncles. Scandalous.
I also like the Left is capitalized. That’s right, motherfuckers, we are a proper noun. Respect.
Paul in KY
@Capri: They know they would lose the House if they did that.
SteveM
Oh, they’ll patch this up in time to get Marco Dreamboat elected president in 2016.
Ash Can
crunchmunchmunchmunchmunch
crunchmunchmunchmunch
::waves pennant that reads “GO INJURIES!”::
jibeaux
I might have demanded his firing for having used the word “like” unnecessarily three times in one short sentence. I’m guessing that having a guy who does that plus says “hater”, though, represents their youth outreach, and they can’t afford to let him go.
RobertDSC-iPhone 4
Rooting for injuries has never felt so good.
Fuck you, GOP.
MikeJ
@Capri:
Gerrymandering actually makes it harder for any individual Republican to win, but maximizes the number of Republicans.
jibeaux
@Alex: it’s like the violent bizarro world of that hymn “let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me.”
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: I also have uncles. Respect me.
Ash Can
@SteveM:
I see a wisp of something in my crystal ball, something along the lines of Obama sweet-talking Rubio into helping out with immigration reform efforts, maybe giving him a prominent platform for contributing to the drafting of new policies, engaging him to the extent that when reform is passed, Rubio is so delighted with the success of the effort and all the congratulatory phone calls his office is getting from happy Hispanic constituents that he gives the Prez a big ol’ hug as the cameras roll…
Now, my crystal ball can be plenty goofy sometimes. But then again, so can the Republicans.
Higgs Boson's Mate
@MikeJ:
Here in CA some of the Gerrymandered districts were so deep red that Republicans didn’t have to worry about a challenge from the Left, but they damn’ sure had to worry about a challenge from the right.
Cassidy
Any Cali residents have an update on the one man insurgency?
? Martin
Man, what a mess going on out here in SoCal. Two people dead, one cop dead, two other cops shot, police have shot at two sets of innocent people thinking they were the suspect, and a military base now locked down because they think they may have him there, but who the fuck knows.
Higgs Boson's Mate
@Cassidy:
So far they suspect him of killing two civilians and one police officer. They also suspect him of wounding two other officers.
Corner Stone
@? Martin: Well, shit. Let me pack a couple things and head West so I can see about cleaning this mess up.
Cassidy
@Higgs Boson’s Mate: I read his manifesto Raven linked to and all I could think was “wow”. If even half of that is true, and this guy is half as good as he thinks he is, there might be some dead cops for a little while. That’s just one of those einformation overload things where you don’t really know what to think.
schrodinger's cat
@SteveM: Can’t be dreamboat with a receding hairline.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
Always.
Baud
@SteveM:
I thought Christie was the GOP savior. It’s so confusing.
Raven
@Cassidy: I’m watching the LA news online. Dudes are on high alert.
? Martin
Twitter says that the guy at Point Loma isn’t Dorner, so this may not be over yet.
Raven
Just a taste for thosen who missed it:
? Martin
@Raven: The couple that was killed in Irvine, one was the daughter of an LAPD officer and apparently killed in revenge, along with her boyfriend.
So yeah, high alert. This sounds like Lethal Weapon movie playing out.
Raven
My mom lived in Torrance right next to the Del Amo Mall.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Ash Can: Someone needs to sell that. Be able to buy all sorts of sporting stuff with “Injuries” printed on them. I want the foam finger version.
? Martin
Yeah, news just broke in and said that Dorner isn’t at Point Loma. They don’t have him yet.
Ben Franklin
@? Martin:
Sounds like another graduate of our excellent mental health facilities.
Cassidy
@? Martin: She was the daughter of the retired Captain who “represented” him at his hearing.
Corner Stone
@Raven: “We are the ones we have been waiting for.”
Or is that more of a slogan and not a manifesto?
Roger Moore
@? Martin:
If only the police had been armed and properly trained, none of this would have happened./NRA
Cassidy
@Ben Franklin: Nope. Former LAPD. Claims he was terminated unjustly because he reported another officer for excessive force, career as a police officer and anvy career ended over it, and has declared war on the LAPD.
Ben Franklin
Another confrontation in Corona. Officer grazed by shoulder-fired weapon (no doubt it’s ‘select’ fire)
Higgs Boson's Mate
@Raven:
Oh, shit. If those Barretts are firing full-house .50 cal BMG rounds the max range is 6800 meters and the max effective range is between 1800 and 2000 meters.
Heaven help the cops on this one.
Ben Franklin
@Cassidy:
Sounds mental, to me. Brain tumor? He was depressed. Psychotropic drugs or anti-depressants. You make it sound like this is a labor dispute.
Raven
@Corner Stone: Here’s the whole document, have fun.
Raven
@Ben Franklin: You need to read up on this, there’s plenty of information. Start with what HE said.
Ben Franklin
@Roger Moore:
Yes. No need to worry about our police being armed to the teeth. They are highly trained, after all. :)
replicnt6
Is this what they mean by “crying uncle”?
Seanly
Me loves some internecine squabbling on the right. I’m rooting for both sides to step it up a notch (or several).
Cassidy
@Ben Franklin: Not saying he didn’t crack. I’m saying chalking it up to a “mental health patient” gone wild ignores significant portions of the story. The sad part is that in this day and age, we don’t know how much of it is true, yet his whole version sounds entirely plausible.
Ben Franklin
@Raven:
Well, I would kill the daughter of my former Captain and her fiance, then I would go kill a couple more cops.
Yep, that would take care of y reputation.
patroclus
My uncles actually did fight for liberty – one was a Naval officer who served in a tanker off Okinawa during WWII and the other was an Air Force pilot for something like 30 years. Neither were right-wing blowhards who grifted off the media for decades though…
peach flavored shampoo
Come again?
The Dangerman
Turns out that the poor Asian women this morning were approaching a high value target in the wrong color vehicle and with the headlights turned off. Wonder if they even speak English if the Cops were ordering them to stop?
At any rate, KACHING! for them, there should be a nice settlement in their future.
ETA: Anyone else having flashbacks to the SLA shootouot back in the 70’s? Last time I can recall anything quite like this matter. Probably will have a similar outcome.
Ben Franklin
@peach flavored shampoo:
OK, officer grazed by bullet fired from a shouldered weapon….
But that was from TeeVee News, so there it is.
Higgs Boson's Mate
@Cassidy:
Isn’t chalking it up to mental illness something that the NRA does whenever there’s a horrific shooting?
Paul in KY
@Cassidy: He’s probably not as good as he thinks he is.
I read the manifesto (not all of it, started skimming a bit after word 1,000). This guy seems like one of those avuncular seeming individuals who bottles it all up…until it goes.
Paul in KY
@Higgs Boson’s Mate: It is hard to hide one of those.
Ben Franklin
@Higgs Boson’s Mate:
I am not a member. How could this guy’s behavior, not represent a breakdown?
Corner Stone
@The Dangerman: “Anyone who runs…”
the Conster
@Raven:
Not to diminish the scope of this situation, but I saw this whole thing go down on episode of Luther.
Paul in KY
@The Dangerman: For a few hours, the armoured nuts who tried to reprise Ned Kelly had the LAPD whigging out.
JPL
If I lived in CA and drove a dark colored Nissan truck, I would consider leaving it parked.
trollhattan
They finally got to the bottom of the mystery money source of last fall’s no-on-Prop-30 campaign in California–engineers who want to privatize all state engineering. They sure went through a lot of hoops to hide their role and intentions.
Corporations are people, my friends.
http://www.sacbee.com/2013/02/05/5165855/private-engineers-group-gave-400k.html#storylink=cpy
handy
@JPL:
A dark-colored Nissan is not required..
MomSense
From the article.
“Collegio went on WMAL in Washington, D.C. Wednesday morning and said Bozell is a “hater” for opposing American Crossroads’ new offshoot, the Conservative Victory Project, a super PAC aiming to back disciplined Republican candidates to win back a majority in the Senate.”
“disciplined Republican candidates” ????
Is that another way of saying candidates who keep their wingnut on the down low?
trollhattan
@Raven:
Ugh, ugh, ugh. More 2nd Amendment remedies to personal demons. Not unlike the airline pilot in the Sierra Foothills last weekend, except for the shooting-himself-afterwards thing.
No more bodies, please.
The Red Pen
They have a point.
The divisive language of the right would be more like “usurper” or “Communist” or “pervert” or “traitor” or really any number of completely delusional accusations. The mild, and completely subjective, epithet “hater” is something a non-deranged person — like those on the left — might choose.
I really have to hand them this point.
MikeJ
@MomSense:
All I can think of is Full Metal Jacket.
Anyone who runs for office is a teabagger. Anyone who doesn’t run is a well disciplined teabagger.
Roger Moore
@MikeJ:
And all I can think of is a Republican candidate hiring a dominatrix to discipline him.
Omnes Omnibus
@MikeJ: My mind went straight to BDSM. Two wet suits and a gimp mask territory, if you ask me.
drew42
Bullshit. There’s no conflict.
This is all just more chest thumping self-promotion on both “sides” of the GOP. There’s no disagreement in ideas or policy, just in how they want to brand themselves. And it’s not really even a conflict of branding — they’re just throwing it all out there to see which type of branding makes them more money.
It’s hollower than Coke vs. Pepsi. It’s more like Diet Dr. Pepper vs. Dr. Pepper 10.
maurinsky
Why am I reminded of the West Coast rap vs. East Coast rap wars of the 90s? Those last two lines are indeed the ones that made me laugh the most. Circular firing squad, assemble!
Roger Moore
@maurinsky:
With the rap wars, though, the firing squads were no joke.
? Martin
@Cassidy: And the story right under the lead story at LATimes is:
So, yeah. His story is hardly implausible. But that little rant quoted above sounds as much like a former neighbor of mine who was schizophrenic. That’s how he’d talk just as he went off his meds. Another day later he’d be completely incoherent, so that was our warning.
MomSense
@? Martin:
What???
? Martin
@Paul in KY:
They never are.
But the LAPD response tells you something about how good they think he is. They’re actively guarding police stations. They’re not taking any chances with this guy.
TG Chicago
I agree with those who said that you need to read the full letter. From the implication of Conservative Royalty to the explicit inclusion of “establishment Republicans” into “the Left”, it’s just amazing.
To me, the most preposterous part of the excerpt in the post was the notion than Brent Bozell — head of the Parents Television Council — is dedicated to “advancing the cause of liberty”. Liberty through repression! Freedom can only come through censorship!
Tonal Crow
@maya:
Gitmo sounds like a good option.
Cassidy
@? Martin: Ugh. Someone had to know this was not going to end well.
On another note altogether, my apartment manager wants to conduct a meeting between the downstairs neighbor and I. I’m really not interested in anything more than an apology, but she’s a nice lady who has made a genuine attempt to resolve this and consider all aprties involved, so I said yes. We shall see what happens.
trollhattan
@? Martin:
Buddy of mine was a small city manager in LA county, and his city contracted with LA County Sheriffs for police services. He got to know both departments quite well and his tales comparing the sheriffs with their LAPD counterparts were hair-raising, to say the least.
Roger Moore
@? Martin:
Of course there’s no reason to assume that it’s an either/or situation. It’s entirely possible that he was wrongly terminated for exposing another cop’s improper use of force and that he’s a paranoid loon who’s doing something crazy that’s all out of proportion to the harm he suffered.
Tonal Crow
@? Martin:
Where’s the NRA Klown Kar Posse Force?
? Martin
@Ben Franklin:
Maybe he’s just really pissed off. Just because someone does something outside of our cultural norms doesn’t mean they have a mental health issue. Not every criminal is crazy. Most of them are just criminals.
Dave
Oh hey nice artwork; is it yours?
Cassidy
@Dave: It’s not really art. it’s pixels on a conputer screen.
Another Halocene Human
Test.
trollhattan
@? Martin:
Here, in comments, when Sandy Hook was still unfolding, a gun fondler confidently proclaimed, “I guarantee he got his weapons illegally.”
Take nothing to the bank and draw no conclusions on this LA savagery while it’s still occurring, other than the dead are yet more senseless gunfire victims.
Tonal Crow
@? Martin: Well said. Defining every murderer (or even every mass murderer) as “mentally ill” perverts the term and cedes vital territory to the NRA.
? Martin
@Tonal Crow:
Hiding, as usual.
The Moar You Know
@Ben Franklin: He’s not crazy.
He’s been pushed beyond his breaking point, but he is not crazy.
A problem is that they let current and retired LE buy any kind of weapon they can afford in this country. Class 3, full-auto, “destructive device”, you name it, they can get it legally. We might want to change that in light of what’s going on here today.
Fucking glad I sold my dark blue Nissan pickup two years ago. This is a bad day to be driving a pickup truck around SoCal.
bemused
LAPD on the manhunt shot and injured two women who were delivering newspapers in a blue pickup. The pickup was riddled with bullet shots.
I think I would not want to be driving or outside at all anywhere in the area if police are this edgy/panicky.
Gravenstone
@Tonal Crow: I imagine Chet will be along shortly to tout the merits of MANPADS and Barret .50 BMG rifles for home defense purposes.
trollhattan
@bemused:
A good question for LAPD is how they mistook two women for a very large blah man. Sheesh.
GregB
@Capri:
Actually these GOP redistricting morons did exactly what I figured they’d which was to bite off their nose to spite their faces.
In many states they made the Democrats’ districts more blue and watered down their districts to make more of them.
They didn’t figure in future demographic shifts it seems.
Idiots.
El Caganer
After reading (some, not all) of the California shooter’s manifesto, I don’t think he’s any crazier than the Unabomber. Make of that what you will.
Another Halocene Human
@El Caganer: The Unabomber was pretty deranged.
So was Lee Harvey Oswald.
OTOH, that Texas college shooter in the 60s was just butthurt, as I understand it.
omg, fywp
El Caganer
@Another Halocene Human: Whitman? He’s the one who had a brain tumor.
? Martin
@trollhattan: Well, truck matching description rolls up with lights off while its still dark out. It looks suspicious.
Would be nice if our local law enforcement knew that this was SOP for the folks that deliver the paper so they don’t wake everyone up shining their headlights in bedroom windows, though, and went the extra step to at least get a look at the driver. What a colossal fuckup.
Glad that we know a bit more about the murders here from the weekend, though. Homicides are unusual here and almost never random. We tend toward the dramatic, though. The bioweapons guy was still the high point.
Hob
@? Martin: Did you read the manifesto? That is not how someone who’s just righteously super-angry at injustice writes. That’s someone who’s lost all awareness of how human beings talk to each other and how they’re likely to respond to being shot at. For Christ’s sake, he even tells the children of the victims that they’ll get over it because their dad was a bad guy and anyway he’ll get a commemorative plaque. Not to mention that he seems totally obsessed with military acronyms.
Maude
BJ WP forgot my name again.
If this former LAPD officer killed people, doesn’t that make him a killer?
I don’t care why he did it. He’s a cold blooded murderer.
GxB
@schrodinger’s cat: An ex of mine would site Sean Connery (several years ago but yes even in his wrinkled state) as an exception.
Roger Moore
@Hob:
And he’s not behaving how somebody who’s just upset about injustice behaves. If you think somebody has wronged you, you go after that person, not their daughter and her fiance. In what universe does “the LAPD wronged me by ignoring my complaint about excessive force, so I’m going to murder their families to prove how wrong they were” make logical sense?
schrodinger's cat
@GxB: Rubio is no Connery or even Patrick Stewart for that matter. While there are some exceptions, receding hairline does not a dreamboat make.
Tone in DC
Somewhere, Carrot Top is smiling.
Tone in DC
Would be nice if our local law enforcement knew that this was SOP for the folks that deliver the paper so they don’t wake everyone up shining their headlights in bedroom windows, though, and went the extra step to at least get a look at the driver. What a colossal fuckup.
Hope this ends soon. It reminds me a bit of 2002 around here.
? Martin
@Hob:
Like I said farther up, he sounds like my schizophrenic former-neighbor. I was just trying to refute the assertion that all criminals like this are crazy. They aren’t necessarily. Doesn’t really matter in this case – he’s dangerous and has guns.
Now reporting he may be in Big Bear. They’re just grasping at straws here.
trollhattan
@? Martin:
Apparently the truck, or the same model truck, was found in flames. This is like a runaway “24” episode. Does he have a hovercraft hidden in the woods?
Ben Franklin
@The Moar You Know:
A problem is that they let current and retired LE buy any kind of weapon they can afford in this country. Class 3, full-auto, “destructive device”, you name it, they can get it legally. We might want to change that in light of what’s going on here today.
He was terminated in 2008, but his wallet and BADGE were found in Riverside(?)
No one on the news has asked a single question about the badge.
J R in W Va
How can any person or group fashion that sentence without having heads explode all around?
Not that I’m jumping to defend the subject, Bozo’ell – or perhaps Collegio, whoever he is….
polyorchnid octopunch
The long recitation of Bozell’s family members reveals that the writers are really into aristocracy, and hate democracy and America.
schrodinger's cat
@Tone in DC: To be a dreamboat
hair is a necessary, but not a sufficient condition.
A moocher
@trollhattan: hovercraft? That’s more “Neuromancer”….which would be cool. Except nothing about this situation is cool.