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Not dead, just otherwise occupied. Yesterday was pretty much a total loss as I accidentally took a tylenol PM at 10 am thinking I was taking a regular tylenol (pro-tip: Wear your glasses when taking pills out of the cabinet). I was just dragging all day.

Had some other personal stuff to deal with today, so that is why I disappeared for 48 hours.

Looking like we are going to do the site rebuild the second week of February, FYI. Also, I have a special treat coming to the front page shortly.

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132 replies
  1. 1
    RobertDSC-iMac G5 says:

    How are the pets? Can we see them?

  2. 2
    Ohmmade says:

    I thought you’d gone galt.

  3. 3
    La Caterina (Mrs. Johannes) says:

    Needs moar Tunch.

  4. 4
    Loneoak says:

    Site rebuild?! Finally, something to complain about.

  5. 5
    handy says:

    Site rebuild? Oh brother.

  6. 6
    handy says:

    At least it will be the weekend AFTER Superbowl Sunday. Can’t come in here and gloat when my Niners when if the site’s broken.

  7. 7
    Loneoak says:

    @handy: lol, I got your number on that one.

  8. 8
    yutsano says:

    So you are gonna fix the mobile site in the rebuild, amirite? AMIRITE??

  9. 9
    Alison says:

    Also, I have a special treat coming to the front page shortly.

    Tits or GTFO.

  10. 10
    Brachiator says:

    Not dead, just otherwise occupied. Yesterday was pretty much a total loss as I accidentally took a tylenol PM at 10 am thinking I was taking a regular tylenol (pro-tip: Wear your glasses when taking pills out of the cabinet). I was just dragging all day.

    Wow. You are worse than Mister Magoo.

    Take care of yourself, man. I can just see a news story of Lily trying to drag your ass out of the house after you have got yourself into some jam. And Tunch laughing, just laughing.

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    Maude says:

    @yutsano:
    Maybe the rebuild after this next one.

  12. 12
    gogol's wife says:

    I hope the special treat isn’t Ted & Hellen.

  13. 13
    Spaghetti Lee says:

    I accidentally took a tylenol PM at 10 am thinking I was taking a regular tylenol

    *wacky sitcom music*

    I have a special treat coming to the front page shortly.

    “Ladies and gentlemen, your new front-page poster…ex-congressman Allen West.”

  14. 14
    UncommonSense says:

    There’s a story on Salon about these three neo-Nazis who killed some guy in Boone County, KY.

    One of the suspects listed on a forum the things he hates:

    “race traders [sic], greed, ignorance, drugs, jews, niggers, spikes, gooks and chinks and anybody that hates National Socialism.”

    “Spikes.” He hates spikes.

    Neo-Nazis are so smart. I guess that’s why they become neo-Nazis.

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    NotMax says:

    The operative term seems to be rebuild, not repair.

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    Alison says:

    @UncommonSense: “ignorance”

    Do I cry? Or laugh? Or cry while laughing? I mean, good lord.

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    handy says:

    @Alison:

    Your ideas intrigue me…

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    Brachiator says:

    @UncommonSense:

    “Spikes.” He hates spikes.

    But Spike was so cool in Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel.

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    Roger Moore says:

    Also, I have a special treat coming to the front page shortly.

    You’ve lured TBogg away from FDL?

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    NotMax says:

    @UncommonSense

    Neo-Nazis are so smart. I guess that’s why they become neo-Nazis.

    Yup.

  21. 21
    handy says:

    @UncommonSense:

    You know who else hated spikes?

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    Cassidy says:

    Also, I have a special treat coming to the front page shortly.

    Tbogg?

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Brachiator:

    But Spike was so cool in Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel.

    Blargh. Spike started out cool, but he went into classic villain decay until he was a total joke.

  24. 24
    SFAW says:

    Also, I have a special treat coming to the front page shortly.

    I hope the special treat isn’t Ted & Hellen.

    Nah, it’ll be “Political Observer” in one of his innumerable personae.

    Suck it, libtards!

  25. 25
    efgoldman says:

    @Fearless Leader Cole

    Yesterday was pretty much a total loss as I accidentally took a tylenol PM at 10 am thinking I was taking a regular tylenol (pro-tip: Wear your glasses when taking pills out of the cabinet).

    I take a dozen or more Rx meds (mostly for blood pressure) as well as a bunch of non-Rx meds. I carefully dole them out before supper, into four medicine cups, to take at supper, bedtime, morning and breakfast. Once I got the cups in the wrong order, and ended up taking my breakfast pills at bedtime. I take a strong diuretic at breakfast. It was a very bad, very long night.

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    SFAW says:

    @handy:

    You know who else hated Spikes?

    Brandon, or Takeo?

  27. 27
    General Stuck says:

    Maybe hilzoy is ready to unretire from blogging.

  28. 28
    John says:

    Ha! I went for a ride with a new friend last week, he crashed, and when we got home I gave him what I thought was an Aleve. I didn’t figure out until close to midnight that I had actually given him a combination Aleve/sleeping pill.

    How do you tell someone you just met that you accidentally drugged him? I chose to lie.

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    efgoldman says:

    @UncommonSense:

    “race traders [sic], greed, ignorance, drugs, jews, niggers, spikes, gooks and chinks and anybody that hates National Socialism.”

    Obviously self-hate is a big part of their ethos.

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    Mark S. says:

    I heard Fox didn’t renew Sarah Palin’s contract, so maybe she’s the special treat.

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    Valdivia says:

    @UncommonSense:

    ok I can tell you I was called a spike once (spic and kike, voila). See they are lovely even in person.

  32. 32
    efgoldman says:

    @Valdivia:

    ok I can tell you I was called a spike once (spic and kike, voila).

    Are you, or was some a-hole making an assumption?

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    SFAW says:

    @efgoldman:

    Once I got the cups in the wrong order, and ended up taking my breakfast pills at bedtime.

    They make helpful items for problems like that. Maybe you already use one, but the “cups” comment made me think “maybe not.”

    Diuretic before bed would definitely bite. My sympathies.

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    NotMax says:

    @efgoldman

    Also reminded of the “Why the bicycle riders?” scene from Ship of Fools.

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    efgoldman says:

    Also, I have a special treat coming to the front page shortly.

    My buddy Emily Hauser?

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    Raven says:

    @SFAW: Lee and Jones.

  37. 37
    Loneoak says:

    @General Stuck: I was just reading some of hilzoy’s IRL work the other day and found myself wishing the same thing.

  38. 38
    SFAW says:

    I second (or “twelfth” by now) the wish for TBogg as an FP’er.

    Perhaps if you offered him a lifetime supply of pink Himalayan salt?

    hilzoy would be good, too.

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    Valdivia says:

    @efgoldman:

    oh I am, totally. And he could tell because my husband (I was married at the time) was super religious and wearing a kippah (yarmulke) and he heard me speaking spanish. A lot of people down south (where I was living at the time) couldn’t quite make up their minds about the whole jewish latino thing. Hard to pick on what they wanted to be racist about.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Valdivia:

    ok I can tell you I was called a spike once (spic and kike, voila).

    Before this thread, I have only ever come across “spike” as a slightly derogatory, but also kind of affectionate, term for Anglo Catholics or very very high-church Episcopalians.

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    NotMax says:

    Also, I have a special treat coming to the front page shortly.

    Folding the blog into the Sully web empire?

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    SFAW says:

    @Raven:

    Don’t forget Jonze.

    Jones is difficult to appreciate, unless Cole turns his FP into a mini-YouTube. Actually, that’s probably true for all three of them.

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    muddy says:

    @efgoldman: Even taking the diuretics in the morning can be problematic. “You want me to show up where? At what time? No, sorry, I will be peeing then. Yes, for some hours, thanks.”

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    Chris says:

    @Mark S.:

    AHAHA!!!

    Even Fox News couldn’t handle her. God, that’s lame.

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    Valdivia says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I have to confess that when I heard it I thought the guy had just made it up on the spot (so what you are both a spic and a kike? a Spike!) so when I read it now it sort of blew my mind. I am not sure the jewish hispanic version is a widely used derogatory term.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @efgoldman:

    I would LOVE to see Emily Hauser return to Balloon Juice. As a front-pager would be wonderful, but I’d be thrilled just to see her come back as a commenter.

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    muddy says:

    @General Stuck: I’d like that.

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    The Dangerman says:

    @Alison:

    Tits or GTFO.

    Moobs don’t count.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @The Dangerman:

    Moobs don’t count.

    Too bad, because that’s the only kind Cole is qualified to provide.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Valdivia:

    Well, just knowing that it has the alternative, really offensive portmanteau meaning, will ensure that I never use it again to refer to a human being. Although back in the day when I was a practicing Anglican I was pretty high-church and often referred to myself as a “spike.”

  52. 52
    Spaghetti Lee says:

    @Valdivia:

    Wouldn’t it mostly apply to that guy from Welcome Back Kotter?

  53. 53
    Raven says:

    @SFAW:

    Now me and my mate were back at the shack
    We had Spike Jones on the box
    She said, “I can’t take the way he sings
    But I love to hear him talk”
    Now that just gave my heart a throb
    To the bottom of my feet
    And I swore as I took another pull
    My Bessie can’t be beat

  54. 54
    efgoldman says:

    @Valdivia:

    …couldn’t quite make up their minds about the whole jewish latino thing.

    Don’t know nothin’ ’bout history, particularly Spanish medieval history, do they?

  55. 55
    NotMax says:

    @SiubhanDuinne

    Do people still use “mackerel snapper?”

    Or has that gone the way of acetylene lighting?

  56. 56
    Comrade Luke says:

    Looks like gun buyback programs are working!

    Surface-to-air missile tube shows up at Seattle gun buyback event.

  57. 57
    efgoldman says:

    @muddy:

    Even taking the diuretics in the morning can be problematic.

    I’ve learned to deal with it. Also years ago I took 4x the daily dose I take now. My docs have decided I am no longer at serious risk for congestive heart failure.

  58. 58
    Garbo says:

    @Roger Moore: I gasped at the very thought. That would be glorious.

    I’m guessing it will be a pic of Tunch, Liy and Rosie. Bedlam will ensue.

  59. 59
    Raven says:

    @NotMax: I do I do!

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    eemom says:

    Not dead, just otherwise occupied.

    You’ve been gone?

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    Valdivia says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I have to say that I thought it was interesting how this guy was trying to square the circle of his own racial prejudices. I had a laugh at it at the time but yes, like you, I find it representative of a truly ugly feeling so can’t hear the word without cringing.

    @efgoldman:
    I know, jewish migration because of persecution, how does it work?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @NotMax: I think that’s reserved for the Church of Rome exclusively. But I’m no expert. Charlie Pierce would probably know.

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    max says:

    Also, I have a special treat coming to the front page shortly.

    You’re going to manfully and valiantly step in and save Ted Tancredo’s bacon by flying to Colorado and smoking the joint Tancredo bailed on inhaling. Thus sparing Tancredo from being relentlessly derided as a chickenshit whose word is utterly worthless, like most Republicans/”conservatives”. Because you’re a good guy like that.

    Yesterday was pretty much a total loss as I accidentally took a tylenol PM at 10 am thinking I was taking a regular tylenol

    Are you sick? (I just finished up 2 months of all kinds of exciting respiratory illnesses!) You really need to get like a giant-sized label maker for almost blind people because you’re going to kill yourself with the bizarro medication mixups you’re prone to.

    max
    [‘No, wait! I know! You’ve joined Al-Queda, because, eh, why not?’]

  64. 64
    SFAW says:

    @Raven:

    “Up on Physically-Challenged Creek”

    You old fart.

  65. 65
    Raven says:

    @SFAW:
    Deep in heart of a lonely kid
    sufferin so much for what he did. . .

  66. 66
    Raven says:

    Anyone got a good slur for a fucking Canadian born Cuban fucking asshole?

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    muddy says:

    @efgoldman: That’s great! I’ve always had low blood pressure (basement low) and got CHF as a result of a winter virus. I just recently got a defibrillator installed in my chest, now I’m paranoid about when it’s going to shock me.

    I said to the doc, what if it goes off when I’m driving? He said, what if your heart stopped while you are driving? allrightythen

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    eemom says:

    @Raven:

    Interesting, because that song always reminds me of a Vietnam vet my husband (actually, then still my bf) and I met in a bar in Portland, Maine, on a rainy day during a vacation in a summer back before time began (1990).

    He was a heavily tattooed, kind of scary looking guy, and we
    –being strangers — were standing around drinking beers watching, a little intimidatedly, while he and his buds played pool. I put some tunes on the jukebox, including that one, and he started singing along to it, so then eebf whispered, “Well, at least they like your music.”

    A few beers later, eebf got into the game…..and the outcome was the Vietnam vet took us on the ferry to this totally cool place called Chebeague Island where he lived, which had a lovely inn on it where we spent the night….the experience of which was vastly enhanced by a killer joint he shared with us during the ferry ride.

    There was a dark side to that though, we later learned, when he told us about his PTSD and some of the experiences underlying it. He said he got suicidal without the weed.

    Have always wondered what happened to him.

  69. 69
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Raven: is that Ted Cruz? Just call him “Cruzz,” which my friend coined in 1988.

  70. 70
    Raven says:

    @eemom: I hope he pulled through. Music and herb went a long way for many, the booze is the great killer.

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    SFAW says:

    @Raven:

    OK, that one I had to look up.

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    SFAW says:

    @Raven:

    “Gordo”? (Seen a picture of him lately?)

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    SFAW says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    You’re overthinking it, amigo.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @SFAW: Canadian bacon plus Cuban pork?

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    Brachiator says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Blargh. Spike started out cool, but he went into classic villain decay until he was a total joke.

    Classic villain decay. Is that anything like nuclear decay, and would that make Spike a beta particle?

    I don’t agree that Spike ended up a total joke, but agree that he was a lesser baddie than he was in the beginning. But this may be the nature of tv, all characters tend to have their edge blunted as their tenure on a show lengthens, especially if audiences like them. Or, as you note, they become less dangerous and more ridiculous.

    And as a matter of practical dramatics, view actors want to play a total baddie for the entire long run of a show. They want to find and to be able to show, a softer side of the villain.

  77. 77
    Raven says:

    @SFAW: Oh, you gotta hear Rick sing it.

    and then

    I Makes No Difference but keep the kleenex near.

    It makes no diff’rence where I turn
    I can’t get over you and the flame still burns
    It makes no diff’rence, night or day
    The shadow never seems to fade away

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    SFAW says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    I can’t tell if you’re playin’ with me, or really need more of a hint.

    [In case it’s the latter: it all ties into the music Raven was mentioning.]

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    Raven says:

    @SFAW: I never heard of the motherfucker till a couple of weeks ago.

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    Maude says:

    @max:
    Another item to put on the list. We have mop…

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    Raven says:

    Captains Courageous on TCM at 8.

  82. 82
    Raven says:

    Captains Courageous on TCM at 8.

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    SFAW says:

    @Raven:

    Thanks for the link. Nice to hear/see him again.

  84. 84
    Raven says:

    Captains Courageous at 8 on TCM.

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    YellowJournalism says:

    This dog could show Mitt Romney’s pooch a thing or two:

    Patient Puppeh

  86. 86
    Raven says:

    @SFAW: Wow, I’d never heard about this and they are local boys!

    The Drive-By Truckers’ song “Danko/Manuel” was released on their album The Dirty South in 2004. “Originally [guitarist/vocalist Jason] Isbell tried to tell the story of Rick Danko, Richard Manuel, and The Band’s demise, but found the scope of the concept too difficult to actually do justice to their story, and instead shifted the concept to a telling of life of a musician through the eyes and actions of Danko and Manuel. Isbell stated that the horn parts for the song came to him in a dream.”

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    YellowJournalism says:

    @YellowJournalism: can’t get the link to work. Mobile site won’t let me edit.

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    SFAW says:

    @Raven:

    Silly me, I thought you wuz talking about Robbie @ 65. Guess I screwed up that one.

    Again

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    General Stuck says:

    @NotMax:

    Do people still use “mackerel snapper?”

    I think the feminists kilt that one a while ago.

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    quannlace says:

    Tomorrow our daytime temps might get above freezing. Yay!

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    Raven says:

    @SFAW: Ha! I have a buddy that was very close to Levon and he is a full time Robbie hater.

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    TaMara (BHF) says:

    Also, I have a special treat coming to the front page shortly.

    Is this some ploy to keep us coming back over and over tonight? Listen, have a life to live here buddy. It’s Saturday night. Got a hot date. Places to go, people to see.

    Yeah, right. I’ll see everyone back here in an hour.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Bacon plus pork?

    Bork.

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    SFAW says:

    @Raven:

    Looks like they’re in NOLA tomorrow. Don’t know how far you are from there. If you’re in northern Alabama, might be a tad far.

    Or are you in GA? (I can never remember, sorry.) If so, they’re in Asheville in 3 weeks. Road trip!

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @hilzoy:

    Hilzoy, you are subtle.

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    General Stuck says:

    @hilzoy:

    Well drat, back to the drawing board. I been a fan since you broke Greenwald’s proggy little heart after throwing in with the Obots. Oh well.

    irresponsible to not speculate further. Such as Maybe Cole and Carrie announce their engagement. Beauty and the Beast retold. Fuckhead as best man, cough cough.

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    SFAW says:

    @Raven:

    and he is a full time Robbie hater.

    Yeah, lot of that going around. For years.

    So did you mean Cruz?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Raven:
    @Raven:
    @Raven:

    Do you happen to know if Captains Courageous is going to be on anytime soon. If so, what time? What channel?

    OKFYWPTHXBAI

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    Raven says:

    @SFAW: The live here in Athens,they played last week and their road manager,Craig Lieske, died suddenly. The someone swiped Patterson’s axe.

    http://www.drivebytruckers.com/craig.html

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    hilzoy says:

    Did you know that not only Nancy Sinatra but *Davy Jones* covered that song? The things one finds while googling. Mercy prevents me from linking.

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    Ash Can says:

    Re the site rebuild, I have a suggestion. Charles Johnson has a “new comments” button at the end of his comment threads that reveals new comments without having to refresh the page — just hit the button and they pop down into view. I don’t know if that would be feasible on this system, but it sure is handy.

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    General Stuck says:

    @Raven:

    I don’t think he ever forgave a Canadian writing “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” Even after Levon went with Robbie to the library for some Civil War lessons, to make sure Robertson did right by General Lee. They been at war against each other ever since, with Levon claiming credits for part of the lyrics. I suspect the world view friction was what you’d expect between a Canadian lad , and an Alabama native.

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    Evolving Deep Southerner says:

    If Cole’s surprise is TBogg, it will shake the girders of bloggerdom.

    Or not. But God damn, it would be sweet.

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    Xecky Gilchrist says:

    @General Stuck: Do people still use “mackerel snapper?”

    My dad says that, but he’s over 80.

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    eemom says:

    dunno, guess I’m the only one who thinks of Erik the whoever, Freddie de boob and Bernard Finel and gets something less than all goose-bumply with anticipation when Cole promises a FP surprise.

    ETA: I’ll be the first to admit I’m wrong if Cole somehow proves capable of prying TBogg’s head out of Hamsher’s ass. Not gonna hold my breath, tho.

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    Yutsano says:

    @eemom: Well we also got Soonergrunt, so it might not be all bad.

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    The Sailor says:

    @SFAW: “Diuretic before bed would definitely bite.”

    One of my BP meds contains a diuretic. It took one night, combined with a sleeping pill, to realize this is not a good combination.

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    gogol's wife says:

    @YellowJournalism:

    Hey fellow Shirley fan! I left you a message on the thread below, the DougJ one.

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    efgoldman says:

    @The Sailor:

    It took one night, combined with a sleeping pill, to realize this is not a good combination.

    Oh, my. Sympathetic wan smile.

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    The Sailor says:

    @eemom: Cole’s been gone? I thought he was just pinin’ for the fjords.

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    handy says:

    @Raven:

    Don’t you live in So. Illinois or is that a nymjacker?

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    efgoldman says:

    @The Sailor:

    I thought he was just pinin’ for the fjords.

    Poinin’! Singin’ in the bleedin’ choir invisible!

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    mclaren says:

    A special treat coming to the front page, huh?

    What, editorials by Antonin Scalia? You’ll replace Anti-Liberal Black Lady with posts by her handler and paymaster, Karl Rove?

    Or maybe you’ll just replace Soonergrunt with Jeb Bush?

    Can’t wait.

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    Johannes says:

    @NotMax: I’m an Anglican, and am pretty high church (I run a blog called Anglocat on the Prowl). Well, there’s a magnificent old bookshop in Hoosick, NY called Dog Ears Books, run by a retired philosophy jock (Jeffery) in a two story barn. He greets customers by showing them to their areas of interest. On the day he had treed a long lusted after copy of Lux Mundi (the manifesto of liberal Anglo-Catholicism) for me, he greeted me, “You’re a mackerel snapper. Or near enough. This interest yeh?”

    It did. Yes, Jeffrey is about 80.

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    SFAW says:

    @efgoldman:

    Poinin’! Singin’ in the bleedin’ choir invisible!

    Well, Cole certainly doesn’t have beautiful plumage.

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    muddy says:

    @SFAW: But he could muscle up to those bars, bend ’em apart with his beak, and…zoooom!

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    mainmati says:

    Did you get a lot of snow up there in West Varginny?

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    SFAW says:

    @muddy:
    Not if his feet are nailed to the perch.

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    NotMax says:

    @Johannes

    You’re a mackerel snapper. Or near enough.

    Good chortle from that.

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    Raven says:

    @handy: I’m from Champaign-Urbana via LA and have lived in Athens longer than most of the dopes on this blog have been alive!

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    The Sailor says:

    @Raven:

    have lived in Athens longer than most of the dopes on this blog have been alive!

    So, do you get a lot of REM sleep?

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    efgoldman says:

    @Raven:

    …and have lived in Athens longer than most of the dopes on this blog have been alive!

    Must be tough with the Greek economy going to shit.
    Oh. Athens GA! Greece would probably be better.

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    PNW_WarriorWoman says:

    While you were otherwise occupied husband and I popped over to the local Home & Garden show here and picked up a couple of things for your yard! They’re so classy! We know you’ll love ’em.

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    Original Lee says:

    19 signatures so far on the FOIA request for hospital investigation reports petition over at We the People.

    Thanks to the BJers who went over and signed it already!

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    Yutsano says:

    @PNW_WarriorWoman: The mermaid is awesome! But I’m sorry, there are no Sasquatch in West Virginny.

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    NotMax says:

    @Yutsano

    Beware the full moon and the Tunchsquatch.

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    Yutsano says:

    @NotMax: If you think about it though, Tunch is more of a Shmoo.

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    Forum Transmitted Disease says:

    Looking like we are going to do the site rebuild the second week of February, FYI.

    Please in the name of all that’s good get this fucking thing off WordPress and onto vBulletin or some other similar platform that actually works and has useful user features.

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    Ramalama says:

    @Forum Transmitted Disease: What’s so good about vBulletin versus WordPress? I love WordPress…but don’t have any traffic so don’t have the headaches BJ does….

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    Closeted epistemic (formerly Lojasmo) says:

    @muddy:

    Yeah, getting defibbed hurts, but it beats dying by a long shot.

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