Friday Evening Open Thread: Do NOT Try This At Home…


… or, as they say among my people: The six most dangerous words in the Redneck vocabulary are “Hold my beer, and watch this.”

Apart from stupid human tricks, what’s on the agenda for the start of the weekend?

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    redshirt says:

    How does one first learn such a skill? Surely, there’s not a lot of room for error.

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    Chilly 27 degrees here in the Queen City. Under the blankets and scanning the tube.

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    Alison says:

    Hey, do we have any folks in the BJ community with knowledge of our tax laws? Federal and I suppose also CA laws, but either/or would be good, too. I would reeeeally love not to have to call the IRS and wait on hold until Kingdom come.

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    Violet says:

    This clip has been cracking me up all day: Goat head-butts reporter.

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    Balmy 60 degrees here in Miami. Just back from a nice dinner with friends, settling in to watch the teevee and Bill Maher.

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    Hawes says:

    I don’t want to be a killjoy, but the one of the Rays player snatching a ball out of the air before it hits a reporter? I think that’s staged.

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    Ronnie P says:

    The last one was the best.

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    Got some Who on BBC America.

    Doctor, not The.

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    eemom says:

    Cold as a mofo and snowing in teh nation’s capital.

    One sick teenager in bed upstairs, 1×3 — boys, age 14 — downstairs. About to call Giant and order all their remaining stock.

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    srv says:

    Let John know that the liberal PBS has a show on Teh Dronez!

    And the series on The Abolitionists has finished, you can watch it at PBS (website) also.

    Oh, and Archer Season 4 started last week. Many references you ancient farts will like.

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    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    This video proudly sponsored by the American Osteopathic Association.

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    eemom says:


    You have Burnsy who’s a tax lawyer and Yutsy who works for the IRS.

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    MikeJ says:

    @redshirt: Some of those (the baseballer talking to the reporter) are faked. That one was for a commercial. Many of them like kicking a soccer ball into a frisbee is pretty low risk.

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    Roger Moore says:


    How does one first learn such a skill?

    I think you start from simpler human tricks and work your way up.

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    Alison says:

    @efgoldman: Oh, my question is extremely basic.

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    Alison says:

    @eemom: Right, I knew there was someone(s). I assume one or both will turn up eventually :P

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    henrythefifth says:

    Some of that is so CGI, it’s ridiculous and obvious. Just so you know.

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    redshirt says:

    Perspective! Right now it’s 9 degrees and I’m all like “yeah, warming up!”. Cuz it’s true. Also, the forecast is for a 43 degree day next week, and I’m wicked excited. For 43 degrees!

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    srv says:

    @eemom: And I worked for the IRS during the slacker era.

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    feebog says:

    But the dude in the wheelchair was teh awesum.

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    srv says:

    @Alison: Well then throw it out there and just say “I have a friend…” if it’s embarrassing.

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    Randy P says:

    I have always had a fondness for circus acrobats, so when I get a chance to see Cirque de Soleil it’s like I’ve died and gone to heaven. The whole show is stupid human tricks like these, really imaginative use of equipment, amazingly beautiful and all of it seems impossible.

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    ruemara says:

    5 dozen cookies for charity. I hope they are enjoyed. I have an article to finish on the perfect ecumenical feast for March and other than working of all the cookie ‘testing’, I’m thinking doing some voiceover work and prepping for another animation.

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    redshirt says:

    Parkour, specifically. I assume there’s classes one can take these days, but how do you start practicing something like that on the streets? Broken bones surely await.

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    Baud says:


    I’m happy to give you advice as long as you don’t care whether it’s accurate.

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    MikeJ says:

    In the Glee v Jonathon Coulton wars, here’s why he suspects they may have listened to his version:

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    Violet says:

    @redshirt: If you live in France, where Parkour originated, you don’t worry about medical care. Maybe that makes the parkour folks a little bolder.

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    RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    This weekend? It’s been planned and changed 5 times this week. Not going to Mexico, Kokomo or Knoxville. Guess I’ll be at home cleaning the aquarium and reorganizing the basement.

    I’ve been wanting to comment that the concealed firearm** carry fans remind me of the Loud Pipes Save Lives boosters among motorcyclists* They reserve the right to frighten, annoy and disturb the people around them in order to feel marginally safer themselves.

    *I have over 50K miles logged on motorcycles
    **And I’ve owned and enjoyed firearms.

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    Culture of Truth says:

    @Violet: Public option frees us up to try parkour!!

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    Alison says:

    @Baud: LOL, well…I’ll trust but verify maybe.

    So, I’m currently on SSDI, and in 2012 that was the sole source of my income. I got a form from the SSA with my total payments and a little worksheet to see if the income taxable. It says to take half your total amount, and if you’re single like me, and that half is less than $25,000, it’s not taxable. Well, mine is way less (in fact, the whole amount was less, lolsob).

    But my question is – even though none of my income is taxable, do I still need to file anything with the IRS/Franchise Tax Board (in CA)? Like, just a form saying “I owe you nothing and you owe me nothing”? Or if you have no taxable income can you skip filing anything altogether?

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    Violet says:

    @RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist: Why do “Loud Pipes Save Lives”? I don’t get it–is it supposed to let other people know the loud motorcycle is there?

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    gogol's wife says:

    I got all excited today because Gawker said Shirley Temple was on Twitter. But I’ve looked at the tweets and I’m not sure it’s really her. HuffPo says her people haven’t responded to requests to authenticate it. I hope it’s true — 84-year-old child star is technologically advanced.

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    The Dangerman says:


    …happy to give you advice as long as you don’t care whether it’s accurate.

    Rotating tag!

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    Raven says:

    The Microcar Museum is closing and this is the last weekend to see it!

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    gogol's wife says:


    Why is it closing? That’s so cute.

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    JasonF says:

    Has there been any discussion of the fact that the D.C. Court of Appeals blew up the whole concept of recess appointments today?

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    Linda Featheringill says:


    2 degrees colder in Philly. We have 1.5 – 2.0 inches snow. Not expecting much more, if any.

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    Raven says:

    @Violet: Because the brain dead fucking public knows you are there!

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    I like to thank which one of you, who recommended, the TV series Outrageous Fortune. I have enjoyed that show and hope that Netflix will show more episodes. Saw For Greater Glory starring Andy Garcia, about the Chistero War in Mexico, a bit of a Catholic Propaganda piece but it I liked it anyway.

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    Raven says:

    @gogol’s wife: The dude is going to auction off the cars, here a story from DG’s old rag.

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    RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:


    Why do “Loud Pipes Save Lives”? I don’t get it–is it supposed to let other people know the loud motorcycle is there?

    That’s what they say. Broadcast your presence to three city blocks and you’ll be safer. The interruption to everyone else’s daily life is their problem.
    A couple of problems with this:
    1) the noise is directed mostly at people directly behind, who can already see you.
    2) Noise pisses people off and angry humans often do unpredictable or emotional things, to the detriment of order and safety.

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    Raven says:

    @Mr Stagger Lee: Check out Shameless and The Story of Film: An Odyssey.

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    Jerzy Russian says:


    How does one first learn such a skill? Surely, there’s not a lot of room for error.

    My thoughts exactly. Once you know how to do 6 flips on your bike after riding off a cliff, I can see how you could land safely. How many trials of executing 5.5 flips were there before the skill was perfected?

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    Baud says:


    Well, shit. Now I feel responsible for keeping you out of jail. Try here for guidance. I think it depends on your total income, not necessarily how much tax you owe.

    ETA: Oh. And, fyi, you cannot — repeat, CANNOT — claim your pets as dependents.

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    srv says:

    @Alison: Technically, I don’t think you have to file Federal, but CA is a bit whiney when they don’t see a return. I never filed for 2007 (but paid all my taxes), and still get a letter from them every year.

    The Feds are actually happy to take any overage and run with it, so usually less bothersome unless Underreporter (salary/1099 reconciliation by computer) spits something out.

    Here’s the rules per FTB:

    But it’s worth the price of a post-stamp usually to make their computers happy.

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    Raven says:

    @RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist: Bah, fuck em. My chevy has “Smithy’s” steelpacks and you can here me comin blocks away when I get on it. Check it out!

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    Alison says:

    @Baud: Hm, well that’s weird. That thing tells me my income is taxable and I do need to file. But the form I got says it isn’t and I don’t.


    Maybe I’ll tag along with my parents on their next visit to their tax person and mooch a little advice.

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    dexwood says:

    “Hold my beer, and watch this.”
    Damn, what you got there is a million dollar bumper sticker.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Alison: The IRS? Short answer: no, you would not be expected to file a return. FTB I know zip about however.

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @Raven: Thanks I will check that out.

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    Raven says:

    Loud pipes and taxes, what a joynt!

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    RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:


    Pretty entertaining. A video of my rides over the years could be sold as a sleep aid. Pinto, LeCar, GLC, Golf, Rabbit, Scirocco, 200SX, another 200SX,


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    Baud says:


    Maybe you should just move to that new Citadel commune in Idaho and then you wouldn’t have to pay the IRS anything.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Baud: Why do you hate Alison?

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    Baud says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    She knows what she did.

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    srv says:

    @RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist: Scirocco was a fun car when souped up

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    realbtl says:

    Damn, if I had $30-40k sitting around I would love one of the Isetta 300s. I learned to drive in one of those.

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    Maude says:

    No, you don’t have to file.
    I’m on SSDI. It can be confusing.
    If you have other income and it goes above the limit, then you file.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Baud: Oh well, that’s alright then.

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    Violet says:

    @RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist: Yeah, it’s always hard to tell where that noise is coming from–especially if you’re in an urban area where the sound echoes. And yes, it just ticks people off. I always end up thinking that people who have loud pipes on their motorcycles are compensating for lacks elsewhere.

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    RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    @srv: My Scirocco was tragically un-souped. We stripped the nice wheels off of it for the Golf and traded the rest for a new cylinder head for the Rabbit.

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    realbtl says:

    Strange little beasts, 300cc BMW motor, 4 speed tranny shifted with the left hand, top speed of about 50.

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist: Did you ever drive an AMC Gremlin? I would love to see one of those again before I die. Ugly car but cool logo.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @efgoldman: Which time?

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    Raven says:

    @efgoldman: GMC trucks were badass. Mine was a shortbed unlike my current 66 Chev.

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    RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    @Mr Stagger Lee:

    Did you ever drive an AMC Gremlin? I would love to see one of those again before I die. Ugly car but cool logo.

    YES! My high school girlfriend and later first wife was given a red one for her 16th B-day.

    It was terrible.

    ETA: I have driven or owned all of the really terrible cars: Chevette, Pinto, LeCar, Citation, etc.

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    Mike E says:

    It never got above 27° here and it did nothing but rain and sleet.

    Shit’s fucked up and bullshit.

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    Alison says:

    @Yutsano: Thanks, Yutsy :)

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    Baud says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    There was that one time…in band camp…

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    Raven says:

    @efgoldman: Go to the home page of that site and poke around, there are some incredible variations.

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    Alison says:

    @Baud: I think I’d prefer jail.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist: My aunt had a Gremlin when I was in High School and she would occasionally lend it to me for a weekend. I liked the fact that the parts rattled; it let me know they were still attached.

    @Baud: Never went to band camp; I was an orchestra guy.

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    RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    This Gremlin developed a one-way front seat. The driver’s door only opened from the outside and the passenger door only opened from the inside.

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    Raven says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I was banned from camp!

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    @Alison: Have you checked online, they have a pretty good and informative website.

    ETA : They : IRS

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    Baud says:


    What did you do this time?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Raven: Why am I not surprised?

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    Raven says:

    @Baud: Well it was 45+ years ago.

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    Maude says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    She got the answer.
    She doesn’t need to file. Her income isn’t high enough.

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    Raven says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Hey, I’m a respectable member of the academic community now!

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    RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:


    My mother-in-law owned a Gremlin also too, when I met mrs efgoldman in 1976.

    My current MIL just turned 80, drives a teal blue Camaro and owns a bar. The G6 just didn’t have enough ballz.

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    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    @Mr Stagger Lee:

    There’s a bit of demand for the Gremlin these days. You can drop a Chevy crate motor into one and have yourself a 12 second drag machine for cheap.

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    Baud says:


    Until you get banned…

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    Raven says:

    @ruemara: Lobo looks like my Bohdi cept with freckles. You know you can link to flickr images with a blind url?

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    Violet says:

    @efgoldman: Family friends had a Pacer. I loved that car. Looked like a bubble. They used to fit their family of seven into it to go to church. Yes, seven people and the youngest was about twelve.

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    Raven says:

    @Baud: You live long enough none of that shit matters anymore, I’m local color!

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    RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate:

    There’s a bit of demand for the Gremlin these days. You can drop a Chevy crate motor into one and have yourself a 12 second drag machine for cheap.

    Cheap plus all of your self respect.
    It was a good design that was made like crap. I blame Mitt’s dad.

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    Raven says:

    @ruemara: See, here’s your pup but not your whole account

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    Baud says:


    Damn straight!

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Raven: Are you allowed to go to camp?

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    Raven says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Our annual computing conference is at Rock Eagle, I go but since I don’t drink (it’s a big party after hours) I drive home at night. I don’t need no fucking bunk bed shit.

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    RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    On the car thing: wait until you see the new Caddy variant of the Chevy Volt. This is cool. I saw the engineering prototypes being made and was really impressed.

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @efgoldman: Lavender Gremlin, now that is an image from the 1970’s, complete with some Jim Croce music.(or some Seals and Croft)

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Raven: So you go to day camp, but not a sleepaway?

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    Raven says:

    @Mr Stagger Lee: How bout Brewer and Shipley?

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    RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    @Mr Stagger Lee:

    Lavender Gremlin, now that is an image from the 1970′s, complete with some Jim Croce music.(or some Seals and Croft)

    They made a ‘denim’ Levis version. I’ll just let you imagine that rather than linking to a photo that might make someone queasy.

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    Raven says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yea, that’s the deal. I don’t room with other people or sleep in any fucking barracks. That ship sailed.

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    ruemara says:

    @Raven:Meh, I careth not. If I didn’t want people to look, I wouldn’t put shite on the internet. But I do thank you for the information. That is one of my assistants, the other is Man Ray the dog. Who is less floofy, but they are both walking mountains of fur and tongues.

    Cannot believe some of you are fond of gremlins. When it’s all about the 1960’s MiniCooper.

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    Alison says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: Well sure, but I was still not clear about it, which is why I wanted to ask around. They may have a lot of information but they still manage to make things just murky enough that you never feel satisfied you know what to do.

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    Raven says:

    @ruemara: No prob, me too but some folks aren’t aware that you can limit access.

    Davis huh, my brother went to Sac State and McGeorge.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @ruemara: Minis are cool. Gremlins suck – I just have a fondish memory of my aunt’s Grem because it gave me mobility…. My parents had a thought that I might a bit reckless and seldom gave me Volvo keys.

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    samkeller says:


    like Elvis and cliff diving…

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    Raven says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Band camp, vovlo’s? No wonder you were an officer! :)

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    RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    I learned to drive in a Fiat 128. Bring that thing back and the teen birth rate would drop like McDonald’s stock after an E-Coli outbreak.

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist: I read in the Wikipedia article on the Gremlin, George W. Bush drove that version while in college. The Gremlin was Bill Clinton’s ride during his first campaign.

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    ruemara says:

    I have to confess. I have an affection for the Pacer.

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    YellowJournalism says:

    @gogol’s wife: it better be true, or at least a really good spoof. I would follow both.

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    Yutsano says:

    Oh and I know this is way late in the thread but I PASSED!! I am now officially an instructor for the IRS. My condo in Hell just got a mortgage. :)

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    Maude says:

    The first year I saw the worksheet, I got confused. It’s easy to be confused with that.

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    Raven says:

    @RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist: My first marriage we flew to LA and picked up me ex’s best friends Fiat 124 sports coupe and drove it from there to San Fran and back to Illinois. It didn’t have cruise but it had a manual throttle control and we buried that mofo across Utah!

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    Raven says:

    @Yutsano: Yes! Way to go.

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    Alison says:

    @Maude: The worksheet itself was super simple, actually. It’s just that it doesn’t tell you what to do next if your income isn’t taxable. Not that I saw, at least.

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    RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    Been up for 18 hours. Cheers until tomorrow.

    And congrats, Yutsano. Well done.

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    srv says:

    @Yutsano: They must be lowering standards.

    JK, in what?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Yutsano: Congrats.

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    Maude says:

    That’s the confusion I had.

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    ruemara says:

    @Yutsano: CHEERS! I’m downing this Kahlua just for you.

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    Higgs Boson's Mate says:


    Congratulations! Is it mo money?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    Chilly, rainy day in So Cal, with more to come tomorrow. G and I are hoping this weather system passes and we get nice weather for his mom’s visit in a couple of weeks.


    Congratulations! Just in time for you to answer all of our tax season questions, too. ;-)

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Yutsano: Congratulations!

    As the parochial-school nuns always said, if you do end up in Hell at least you’ll have plenty of old friends to talk with.

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    freelancer says:

    I went out for a bit and had happy hour drinks with friends. It was nice.

    Came home and because I apparently am a glutton for self-punishment, checked the Madison, WI news again. I feel sick to my stomach and my heart is breaking for my family.

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    Anne Laurie says:


    Some of that is so CGI, it’s ridiculous and obvious. Just so you know.

    If you don’t think idiots have seriously injured themselves attempting to replicate CGI stunts IRL, you don’t remember what teenage males are like in groups. And that’s even without the aid of alcohol or other intoxicants. Testosterone is one helluva drug, apparently.

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    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason says:

    @RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist:

    all of the really terrible cars: Chevette, Pinto, LeCar, Citation, etc.

    Wow, that’s a pretty impressive lineup! I learned to drive on a Nash Metropolitan, but since then it’s been a little more classy: Bugeye Sprite, 66 Mustang, Alfa Duetto, TR-3, Datsun 510, Miata, Jetta. And to be honest, now it’s my Mom’s Mercury Sable if I actually want to arrive at my destination.

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    The Sailor says:

    @Raven: “Because the brain dead fucking public knows you are there! ”

    You have a basic fail. open headers still point backwards.
    The people behind you aren’t the problem.

    I can’t believe asshole bikers still use this excuse.

    It’s just like those assholes who have bass thumpers in their cars, except asshole bikers try to make an excuse out of just liking loud sounds that annoy other people.

    Until you have some science, you are just annoying.

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    Origuy says:

    My sister had a Pacer for a while. With all that glass, the thing heated up like a greenhouse in the sun.

    Alison, if you apply for a loan in the next couple of years, they will probably ask for a copy of your 1040. Might be worth filing it just to have the paperwork.

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    Anne Laurie says:


    Came home and because I apparently am a glutton for self-punishment, checked the Madison, WI news again. I feel sick to my stomach and my heart is breaking for my family.

    Care to explain?

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    freelancer says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    Sorry, I mentioned it in an earlier thread, but I suppose clarity is in order.

    My cousin Adrian recently was admitted to the hospital for a ruptured appendix. After surgery he became septic, developed pneumonia, and has been slowly recovering, just being discharged yesterday.

    Today news broke that the woman that he had been seeing over the last few months was killed in Madison, Wi. She was my cousin Jen’s best friend and they had met through her ETA: a long time ago, but only recently over the summer becoming re-aquainted.

    I had started an online fundraiser (through a site that Gex had linked to for Kate) to help him with his bills, but this is a punch to the gut and I don’t know what to do or say to him.

    She came down to Phoenix last month and we watched the Big 10 Championship at a bar in Tempe, where she cheered on the Badgers as they routed my Huskers, but it was a very fun night and she was just a great person to be around.

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    Yutsano says:

    @freelancer: Oh damn dude. That just sucks. Hugz.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @freelancer: Goddess, that’s terrible. I’m so sorry.

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    ruemara says:

    @freelancer: I’m so sorry. Ain’t nothing to say, just be there for him. I wish I could do something for your cousin. Beyond just good wishes.

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    freelancer says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    Thanks. I’m trying to wrap my head around it and I only met her twice. My cousins are just devastated. Jen texted me back and said, it just wasn’t real to her yet. I wish there was more I could do. I mean, I started the fundraiser so that he could be able to recover without having to worry about how much the bills would cost. He makes only a little more than what I make, and I wanted to give him peace of mind. That’s kind of out the window now, as he knows that Jenny was planning on flying down today or tomorrow to stay with him, but she’s gone.

    No one saw this coming and there’s nothing anyone can do. It’s one of those, sometimes life gives you a full house, and sometimes life funnels dogshit into your mouth and there’s nothing anybody can do but say “Hey, so sorry. We love you.”

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    freelancer says:


    I’m so sorry. Ain’t nothing to say, just be there for him. I wish I could do something for your cousin. Beyond just good wishes.

    Thanks again for your kind thoughts. He lives and teaches in Page, AZ. It’s 5 hours from me, so it’s been difficult finding time to get up to see him for me. That’s one of the main reasons I started the giveforward page. I am hesitant to use my presence here to bleg, especially since when causes are mentioned here, they are urgent, or usually life threatening, or a way for the community to help out one another (See Gex or one of the many awesome Rescue Blegs).

    But if Juicers feel so inclined, here’s the page. You’d be helping out a really awesome human being through what could arguably be the hardest time in his life so far.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @freelancer: Jesus. My condolences and good thoughts.

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    Jager says:

    I just cannot grow up…I just ordered a Corsa system for my Jeep!

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    freelancer says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Thanks, Omnes. I was curious if you had seen any of the coverage at all? If you also maybe knew her in any six degrees kind of way.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @freelancer: The first I saw of it was after I read your post happy hour post on this thread. I looked up Madison news and saw the murder-suicide. I figured that must have been it. As far as I know, I do not have any connection to her in a six degrees way. I just fucking hate this shit. My marriage broke up. She called it; I recognized that it was real. We moved on. I don’t understand how people could…. Fuck it. You don’t either. I am sorry; the situation just sucks.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Anne Laurie:
    Yes it is. It is even more fun when mixed with some sort of intoxicating accelerant.

    The best thing is when you learn how to mix it with adrenaline.

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    Ruckus says:

    My post at 158 seems way way inappropriate right now.
    That’s a pretty big load to have to deal with, I hope I’m not out of line in suggesting your cousin may be helped by counseling.
    I really don’t have any more words.

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    No no no no no. You do not need to apologize for being funny. And yes your advice is sound. That’s one thing I hope to talk to him about, talking to a pro.

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