Holy Shit

Dunno if this is a repeat I missed, but TNC is going to be on Colbert.

62 replies
  1. 1
    Hill Dweller says:

    It’s not a repeat.

  2. 2
    MikeJ says:

    Maybe we can get you on Chris Gethard.

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    Comrade Mary says:

    So much for getting back on a sane sleep schedule …

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    SarahT says:

    And Justice Sotomayor was just on the Daily Show

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    Anya says:

    TNC never does a good interview. He’s a thoughtful author and his style does not translate into good teevee. Maybe the masterful Colbert will bring out the best in him.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    I hope TNC doesn’t wear the same outfit as last time I saw him. It made him look like he had man boobies and the color was too dark for the set.

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    Alison says:

    @Anya: Really? I;ve seen him on Chris Hayes’ show and thought he did just fine. It is a somewhat different format than a traditional one-on-one interview, but I’d be surprised if he was somehow awful at the latter…

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    Elizabelle says:

    TDS rebroadcast with Justice Sotomayor at 1:00 a Eastern; TNC with Colbert at 1:30 a.

    Settling in to watch C-Span of inauguration. Did not see closeups before; couldn’t hear inaugural speech well.

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    eemom says:

    The flame wars will ignite themselves.

  10. 10
    eemom says:


    hey, I’m sorry about the confusion re the aborted meet up yesterday. Hope we can do it right next time, in Feb, when the Big Man comes to town. (No not you, Cole.)

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    Punchy says:

    Whos TNC and why should I care?

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    sharl says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: I’d never noticed that! Probably because his giant purple sequined hat always interacts with the bright studio lights in a way that damn near gives me seizures. He needs a wardrobe adviser.

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    Elizabelle says:


    Look forward to meeting you all over a beverage.

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    @Punchy: There’s a link in Cole’s post that will tell you who he is. I’m sure you know how to click on it.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    TNC doesn’t appear to realize Colbert is spoof.

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    General Stuck says:

    Holy Shit!! of another stripe. Okay, who slipped Erick the Erickson the brown acid?

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    Well, it’s over now and I am glad Colbert had as a guest a person of color on this historical day. But that outfit TNC wore was hideous. A couple of food stains on his teeshirt and he could have been the panhandler outside the Salvation Army. Just disgusting.

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    mai naem says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: They realize it but they can’t reconcile the real Colbert with the show Colbert. Colbert’s said that himself. He said he tells them himself before they tape that the show Colbert is a moron. Even Josh Marshall said it was hard dealing with the two Colberts.

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    wasabi gasp says:

    Taco is right there on the table.

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    boss bitch says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead: You seem nice

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    sb says:

    @General Stuck: If you put up that post and asked which conservative/wingnut blogger wrote it, Erick Erickson is emphatically not the first name that would pop into my head.

    I can’t believe he wrote that.

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    trollhattan says:

    Holy canoli, I’ll finally learn how his name is pronounced!

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    eemom says:

    @Just Some Fuckhead:
    @mai naem:

    I don’t think it is as simple as not realizing show Colbert is a spoof, certainly not that show Colbert is a “moron.” It’s that show/spoof Colbert is NOT, in fact, a moron — but has the quick wit and retort of the real Colbert, in the guise of the “conservative” character — and the guests are taken aback at having to respond to that.

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    Jay C says:


    It’s pronounced “ta-na-HAH-see”, and belongs to one of the cleverer/most intellectual writers on the Internet (or at least The Atlantic). Unfortunately, having an overage of smarts rather than video-philia, he doesn’t vid well. Though if you listen to what he says, it’s usually pretty cool….

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    👽 Martin says:

    @General Stuck: The comments are awesome. There is nothing which is not tyranny. Everything is a catastrophe.

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    freelancer says:


    It’s Tah-neh-HAH-see Coats

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Jay C: @freelancer: I never expected a pronunciation that was like Tallahassee and Ashkenazi had a baby.

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    General Stuck says:

    @👽 Martin:

    I’m going to splurge, and consider it a kind of Canary in the right wing coal mine. Maybe Erick is getting that the game is up on unfettered wingnuttery. So this time, Instead of red meat, he throws out a wall with some writing on it. The natives of course, promptly stomp it to smithereens.

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    Liberty60 says:

    @General Stuck:
    Yeah I saw that.

    To see Erick getting eaten alive by his own commenters is a bit like watching the end of the movie Willard.

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    GregB says:

    The GOP had their little pow-wow this weekend.

    The word has gone out and they need to start to sideline their moronic base or at least keep them from shitting in the parlor every two minutes.

    Erickson has his marching orders, turn the speakers down from 11.

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    @👽 Martin: shoppe girl is almost brilliant.

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    Ted & Hellen says:


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    Suffern ACE says:

    @GregB: I have a Vision. That someday, AM radio will be adult contemporary with interruptions for weather alerts and the local high school basketball game across the land.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Jay C: @freelancer:

    Merci. I like reading him, just could never suss out how to pronounce it and have something quite off, stuck in my head.

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    Steeplejack says:


    The worst are the guests who try to out-funny Colbert. They just don’t have the chops or the practice to keep up with him. Just be yourself, take your lumps, and if you get off one good line by accident it’s a good interview.

    Some of the worst offenders are academic celebrities pushing a book who are accustomed to the (forced) laughter in their lecture classes.

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    Maude says:

    @Suffern ACE:
    I only listen to Bloomberg and new radio. I can’t tolerate the stupid of the right wing. Not even for a few minutes.
    They are fading away. Not fast enough for me, but still losing listeners.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Steeplejack: I didn’t think those kinds of guests were trying to be funny — but instead they seem to show up on the show with a handful of things they Simply Must Say, which can lead to awkwardness when Colbert spins off something surprising and they’re left struggling to find the way back to planned material.

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    scav says:

    @👽 Martin: Some of them prayed and even fasted to win the election! I will never make fun of hackeysack as a political tactic again. yes shoppe girl indeedy.

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    Joel says:

    Coates was way too nervous. Too bad, missed opportunity. Wished Colbert brought up something awkward – like the Scientology advertorial. I mean, I like Ta-Nehisi, but he is the editor, after all.

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    Steeplejack says:


    The underlying point is the same: they’re not as quick-witted as they think they are.

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    Steeplejack says:


    He is one of a dozen senior editors. The editor in chief is James Bennet.

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    Mandalay says:

    @General Stuck:

    Holy shit indeed! Erickson, who tweeted “The nation loses the only goat fucking child molester to ever serve on the Supreme Court in David Souter’s retirement” now pontificates that “What I am finding is that among conservatives there is too much outrage, piss, and vinegar”.

    It’s a bit like Hitler whining about anti-Semitism in the Nazi Party.

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    Maude says:

    When people try to be clever, I wince.

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    eemom says:


    The best that I’ve ever seen — and I don’t watch regularly — was his Maurice Sendak interview. THAT, was a match between equals….in many respects.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Steeplejack: could be, but I’m sure it’s really hard to know how to roll with it as it’s happening. Because the harder you try to be serious, the more you’re going to come off as awkward, and the harder you try to be funny, the more you’re going to come off as… even more awkward.

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    Mike E says:

    Since I no longer have cable, please allow me to vent off topic. WTF is it with Debbie Downers like Ted Koppel, Tom Brokaw and Bob Woodward (let alone Charlie Rose and Neal Conan) who, when they’re not concern trolling, have a pathological need to twist any important subject into their own to particular “specialty.” For example:

    I’m sure I heard Koppel say today, out loud on npr, that PBO erred in not mentioning cyber war or Iran desiring a nuclear weapon in his inauguration speech…wait. What? Really? THAT’S what you’d single out as important. Huh. Miss your Nightline gig much?

    And just now I saw Woodward actual say Obama blew it by rebuking Repubs, when the smarter move would’ve been to (I am not shitting you) allow them to withdraw from the field with their dignity intact. Seriously. He then goes on to chastise the president for not managing his opponents and using them to his advantage.

    My question is real, please help me out here: how can someone this unaware of himself be allowed out in public? Other Charlie Rose panelists tactfully pointed out to him that this is exactly what he has done as president, in a tradition of similar actions done by other presidents. But, my gawd…

    Now it’s Tavis Smiley complaining about being criticized for bitching about Obama while being black…alright. Teevee is now off. Good night, fellow robots!

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    Mike E says:

    Obots. Jeebus.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Mike E: re: Koppel, I thought that whole part about talking to and engaging with other nations was implicitly about Iran. But “cyber war”? Maybe he should have outlined a clear policy in regard to dirigibles too.

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    Petorado says:

    @Mike E:

    I think that’s a big part the Beltway crowd’s shtick: mention some obscure BS at times like this so folks at home say, “Wow, this Koppel guy is really smart. I never would have thought of that in a million years.” It’s not like anyone will set the record straight for the viewers or anything.

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    sharl says:

    @Mike E: There’s a whole lot to unpack there. With the possible exception of Tavis Smiley – more on him below – all those folks you cited are classic DC Villagers. Up until recently – with the rise of folks like Nate Silver and (IMO) Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes – they have been in charge of the Self-Serving Reality Creation Machine. But their world is now dying, and they are now whistling past the graveyard, where – if they dare to take a look – they may see their freshly dug graves just waiting for their public personae.

    I’m sorry to see that Koppel still has access to public forums (fora?), but not surprised. In my naive days I used to admire Koppel. Since getting to know about the Villagers in greater detail, thanks to the innertoobz and blogs and whatnot, I’ve come to appreciate the following WaPo excerpt as provided by Bob Howler (aka the lunatic savant, h/t eemom):

    TED AND COLIN, SITTIN’ IN A TREE: Ted Koppel had purchased his latest fast car. And he wanted to show this new “baby” off. And then he had it! He knew what he’d do! He’d show it off to one of the world’s most powerful men—one of the men he allegedly “covers.” Indeed, we’ll let Colin Powell take the story from there. Powell was speaking at a roast Thursday night. His remarks were transcribed and presented in Saturday’s Post. Every American should read them and ponder their meaning:

    POWELL (10/14/04): Every couple of years, Ted will come by my house on the spur of the moment and we’ll sit in the back yard and have a cup of coffee. And he’s usually driving one of his hot cars. He always has a fast car of some kind. And so about, oh, four or five years ago, he came by the house and he had this real muscle car, and after we had a cup of coffee and chatted for a while, he says, “You’ve got to take it out and drive it, Colin. You’ve just got to drive this thing. I want you to feel that power…”

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Everyone laughed at the fatuous story, because the tale had been told by a powerful man. And by the way, in answer to Powell’s question, how much are they paying Koppel at ABC? They’re paying him millions of dollars—and he makes a joke of his responsibilities by driving around in his fast muscle cars, playing best buddy with the powerful people whom he allegedly “covers.”

    Poor ol’ Bob Howler – who did me the courtesy of replying to my e-mails on a couple of occasions – actually has issues which go beyond the fun-&-games DC Villagers play, whether he acknowledges them or not. Specifically, once upon a time, a market developed for this kind of American aristocracy, and he should delve a little deeper into how that came about, rather than being continuously surprised and outraged that a certain percentage of gifted writers and talking heads would go over to the Dark Side. As it stands, I think these days, these Villagers are mostly talking to one another, and a dwindling demographic of aging socioeconomic privileged types.

    ~~~ TO BE CONTINUED (yeah, that’s a threat) ~~~

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    Joel says:

    @Mike E: Christ, no one makes you come here.

    No, I get it, you’re just trolling. Carry on.

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    Joel says:

    @Joel: Nevermind, I thought you were the other Mike.

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    Mike E says:

    @Joel: Joel B-J Commenter, I am for you…

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    sharl says:

    @Mike E: {PART 2}

    Tavis Smiley and Cornel West are folks I still don’t know quite what to make of; and I only mention both in the same sentence because they seem to be joined at the hip as far as their politics are concerned (there are actually differences, and I find West the more intriguing of the two, but too much stuff to go through here).

    Smiley is, as you noted, sad because he feels like his natural constituency has abandoned him for Obama. I try to catch his weekend radio program when it comes on during the weekend (first hour is all his, second hour is “Tavis and West”), and he has also complained/whined about this there on occasion. It is particularly strange when he does so with guest Amy Goodman, as he has on a couple occasions. Goodman has been sympathetic, but one thing I’ll wager Goodman NEVER would have done is take sponsorship money from notorious predatory lender Wells-Fargo, which Smiley did up until about the time the home real estate market collapsed (and did so doubly or more for struggling minority mortgage holders, who were often targeted by the sleaziest tactics that scumbag organizations like W-F could come up).

    A lot of folks in the Af-Am community clearly haven’t forgotten this. Smiley and West are currently doing something called (IIRC) the Poverty Must End tour, and they recently had a panel discussion/Q&A (it is probably archived on C-Span). I didn’t listen to it, but followed on Twitter, and if you follow the tweets via the hashtag #povertymustend, you’ll see a lot of support for those guys, but also a lot of mentions of W-F, and the fact that they have a book coming out, implying that this whole thing is just an attempt to gain book sales. And one other big suspicion/criticism is that Smiley has been all butt hurt ever since Obama chose not to show up (in 2007 or 2008, I think) at some big media event Smiley hosts annually.

    If you like your Smiley criticism extra spicy hot, prowl around in Imani/ABL’s blog and tweets, along with those of some of her co-bloggers (Allan, who occasionally comments here, was following that Poverty thing on Twitter that night). And of course, there are always parody accounts that arise in these situations, like this one.

    [And I just looked: that #povertymustend hashtag is still pretty active; I would have expected it to be dying embers by now.]

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    ulee says:

    Go Patriots!! *crickets* Um, is this room 404? I was told there was a Patriots win here.

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    @👽 Martin:

    I read those comments. I had to. They are filled with people trumpeting how much they supported George W Bush. They are not embarrassed by this.

    I’ve tried, several times, but I cannot fathom the right wing mind.

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    Ben Cisco says:

    @James E. Powell: Best not to look too deeply into the abyss…

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Now, about Mr. Coates’ surname… Liverpool FC have a defender named Sebastian Coates. He’s a South American of British ancestry who pronounces his surname “ko-ah-tes”.

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    Forum Transmitted Disease says:

    Okay, who slipped Erick the Erickson the brown acid?

    @General Stuck: I thought you were indulging in hyperbole.

    I gotta say, I think you nailed it. Brown acid indeed.

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    Forum Transmitted Disease says:

    The comments are awesome. There is nothing which is not tyranny. Everything is a catastrophe.

    @👽 Martin: I read the comments section. I am not a better man for it.

    But here’s what I want to know: Am I leftist vermin, to be purged with vinegar like the bacteria infesting our nation that I am, or am I an all-powerful unconquerable leftist God, who cackles as I visit ruin upon helpless God-fearin’ hard-workin’ Americans with a wave of my hand?

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    LanceThruster says:



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    Haydnseek says:

    @Ted & Hellen: Why, of course you are. Someone has to be in that shopping mall kiosk on a weekday.

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