Be the change you are waiting for

Pick up the phone. Talk with your Rep and Senators. Do they support the President’s sensible gun safety plans? If no then why the hell not? Maybe ask what kind of idiot needs a thirty round magazine to bag a deer. Whatever you do, make sure that the people who represent you know how you feel. The Federalist Papers make quite clear that the Constitution intends for Representatives to represent the people who contact them. If you don’t phone in then your Rep will represent the people who do.

We need to know which Reps and Senators are on the fence. If you get no firm response or a squishy response, please let us know in the comments so we can target them for more attention.

Q: My Republican is an idiot. Should I phone him or her?

A: Yes.

Q: Even Virginia Foxx?

A: Yes goddamit, even Virginia Foxx. Full court press. Now git.

Find your Congressperson here.

Switchboard: (202) 224-3121

Guide for first timers below the jump.

(1) Use a phone. Email has nigh on zero impact. Trust me on this. Letter mail gets read and in fact has the most impact of all, but you don’t have time. Reach the House switchboard at (202) 224-3121 .

(2) Remember, this person works for you. You pay his or her salary and you voted for them. You’re the boss here, or at least one of them, and it’s they who should worry about what you think of them.

(3) Identify your name and the town or neighborhood where you live zip code. If you are not a constituent don’t bother. Since you guys never listen to me, at least google a zip code in the appropriate district before you call.

(4) State the issue. This is easy: pass the Senate bill or the party gets it. We can (and certainly will) fix the shortcomings later. Talking points above.

(5) How strongly do you feel? Don’t apologize about feeling passionate or pissed off. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. However, keep in mind that teabaggers threaten the apocalypse over everything. Interns get jaded pretty fast when call volume is high. Polite but firm is the way to go.

75 replies
  1. 1

    My Senators are McConnell and Rand Paul. The more they know I want gun control, the more they will be determined to stop it. Should I still call?

  2. 2
    jibeaux says:

    Got a no position response from brand new rep. George Holding, 13th district NC, R, former AUSA.

  3. 3
    TooManyJens says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    The more they know I want gun control, the more they will be determined to stop it.

    What, you personally? Just call and say you’re a constituent who supports the President’s plan. They don’t have to know that you’re one of those soshalists they love to piss off. (My former Rep’s staff seemed to relish being opposed by liberals, which was why I would just call instead of going in with liberal groups to meet with them.)

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    Belafon (formerly anonevent) says:

    I wonder if it would also help to start your conversation with “I’m a gun owner…”

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    Nora says:

    Hardly have to do anything; my rep, Nita Lowey, has already gone on record in favor of the President’s plan, and I’m fortunate enough to have Gillibrand (very strong on gun control) and Schumer as my senators.

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    RedDirtGirl says:

    Called Yvette Clark in Brooklyn, Schumer and Gillibrand, and their spokespeople were all more mealimouthed than I expected, saying they support gun control in general, but hadn’t made official statements yet. Maybe that’s par for the course…..

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent): It couldn’t hurt. Unless it gets to be too much. I would say that if one is a gun owner and can credibly talk about what you own, go for it.

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    amk says:

    Excellent post, Tim.

    Use your voice for calling, not for whining.

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    JCT says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent): I always do — and tell them what I own. And then I make it clear that I have no problem with what the President wants to do because I am a responsible gun owner. I usually add that most of the guys in my family hunt and consider it a point of pride that they don’t need hi-capacity magazines to bring down a deer. It’s pretty hopeless because my senators are Gramps McCain and the aptly named Flake, but I did make the call.

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    Jerome says:

    Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D OR-3) is on the fence; “in general supports the President” was the wishy-washy response. It was rather disappointing to hear, so any Portlandians out there, seems like we need to make ourselves heard.

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    Forum Transmitted Disease says:

    Fucking call or write. I have pre-written templates in Word for both my asshole local Rep and my two senators, including their local, state, and Washington offices. Cut, paste, mail. Takes me less time than calling, and they ALWAYS write back, so you get the additional joy of wasting a staffer’s time as well.

    This isn’t hard, but you people DON’T FUCKING DO IT. I know you don’t. If you did, we wouldn’t even need to be having this conversation, because if you did the Repukes would be more terrified of you than the TeaBaggers. They are not. Case closed.

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    Citizen_X says:

    @TooManyJens:

    My former Rep’s staff seemed to relish being opposed by liberals

    Seriously? Holy cats, what a bunch of children. It really is “Whatever liberals are against, updated daily.”

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    handsmile says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    Yes, most definitely, if you can. I admit it requires rather a bit more spine than I must muster when calling my three supportive Congressional representatives, but your call will demonstrate to these Confederate Party leaders that not all of their constituents abide their barbarous views on gun safety. Your/our side may be in the minority on this particular tally sheet, but each mark may discomfit the smug certainty of the likes of Paul and McConnell.

    (And please know that when Chuck Schumer seeks to weaken Wall Street/financial industry regulations and oversight, he hears from a civil but disapproving me.)

    Good luck!

    ETA: If Belafon’s comment above (#4) describes you, absolutely mention it!

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    JLowery says:

    Done. AZ-1 (DEM) Rep. Kirkpatrick’s office says she hasn’t decided yet. We’re a purple district in a red state, so not a suprise. Obviously, I told them I strongly support all of the president’s proposals.

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    Belafon (formerly anonevent) says:

    @Forum Transmitted Disease: As much as your rant is mostly true, the right constantly tells their people to call. It never ever hurts to remind people to pick up the phone/mail.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Forum Transmitted Disease: My guess is that a lot of people who read this and other political blogs do indeed do it.

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    Jude says:

    WI Sen Ron Johnson’s (R) position appears to be very open to the president’s proposals. Of course, calls like mine help push him further towards sanity. I didn’t call Sen. Tammy Baldwin.

    My Congresscritter Petri, one of the no votes for Sandy, ‘has no current position’. A coward through and through. I withheld speaking my position that he is an accomplice in murder, but later may tell him I feel that way when he publicly joins lockstep with the NRA.

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    Maude says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:
    They are hearing from the side that doesn’t want any type of gun control. Put your voice in there.

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    TooManyJens says:

    @Citizen_X: It wasn’t the whole staff; I shouldn’t have put it that way. But there were at least a couple of guys in the local office who were really unprofessional and contemptuous when asked to consider the opinions of liberal constituents. Maybe they figured we were never going to vote for their guy anyway, so we didn’t count.

    I’d add, for all the people whose Congresspeople are already supportive; call them anyway and thank them for being supportive! It’ll give their staffers a nice break from being called un-American freedom-hating dupes of the Kenyomuslim usurper, anyway.

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    Kip the Wonder Rat says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    It never ever hurts to remind people to pick up the phone/mail.

    FTFY

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    JPL says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: I wrote letters a few weeks back to my Senators. Like you I’m in an area where the status quo is just fine but I’m going to call again. This time I’m going to ask whether or not they support universal back ground checks and if not, why not. It’s easier for mine to say blah, blah, blah assault guns don’t kill, people do. So I’m going to do just part of the plan. Baby steps if you will.

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    Forum Transmitted Disease says:

    My Senators are McConnell and Rand Paul. The more they know I want gun control, the more they will be determined to stop it. Should I still call?

    @Frankensteinbeck: Hell yes, and spend as much time on the phone with the staffer as you can. Talk slowly. Say everything you want. Be very nice. Sound old if you can pull it off.

    The payoff is this: every second you’re on the phone with the staffer is a second they’re not on the phone with some insane maniac demanding his rights to own an MG42 machine gun without any of that “damned gubbmint interference”.

  23. 23
    Chris says:

    Sam Axe: “Senator? Senator, I’m one of your constituents!”
    Senator: “Yeah, but only one.”
    /Burn Notice

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    gogol's wife says:

    Thanks for keeping up the pressure on this. I have good reps but they need to know we support them.

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    MomSense says:

    I want to put in a plug for calling their local offices in addition to their DC offices.

    If you are close enough to an office to visit, that is great too. They are really receptive at the local offices and will spend time talking with you.

    And please, even if you don’t like your Congressperson, try to be kind and respectful with their staff. It makes our anti-violence argument more persuasive.

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    BAtFFP says:

    Tim, thank you for the continued reminders! I wrote a couple weeks ago and actually got back a decent letter from Patty Murray — she’s awesome.

    Called everyone today. Maria Cantwell’s office says she’s in full support of what Obama does. Jim McDermott’s office said “check his website for positions; there’s no statement about yesterday yet.” I found nothing on his website, however, but it’s Jim McDermott. I’m not terrible concerned. I told Patty Murray’s answering machine to support Obama’s policies. The White House gave me a busy signal.

    This is fun. I shall call again soon.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @MomSense: I always call the local office. I find it easier to get through.

  28. 28
    Houstonian says:

    Just called my Rep., Sheila Jackson Lee. Her staffer said she supports the President’s legislation and has legislation she’s planning to promote as well. (No idea what that might be). He got me off the phone quickly. Sounded busy.

    Called Senator John Cornyn’s offices. National office: “I Have not had a chance to discuss it with the Senator”. Tried several ways to get more info, but hit a brick wall.

    Local office: Got a bit more of a chatty staffer, but still the same info. Cornyn hasn’t given them any directives. He’s Minority Whip, so his stance will be illustrative.

    Called Senator Ted Cruz’s office. National office only allowed callers to leave messages–no “talk to a staffer option”. Left a message.

    Called Cruz’s local office. Staffer was very nice, but completely befuddled when I asked. “Does the Senator support universal background checks on gun purchases?” No idea what the answer was. Kept saying, “The Senator strongly supports all existing laws.” When I asked if that meant he supported universal background checks, the staffer didn’t know. I guess Cruz is a new Senator and doesn’t have his staff memo system up to speed yet.

    All staffers I talked to said they had been getting a lot of calls. Wouldn’t tell me which way the calls were leaning, but I’m in Texas, so it’s not too hard to guess.

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    👽 Martin says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    The more they know I want gun control, the more they will be determined to stop it. Should I still call?

    Yes. What they’ll actually be thinking is that if they’re getting calls like yours in Kentucky, then the Republican senators from places like Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nevada, Florida must really be feeling it.

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    MomSense says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Awesome!

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    Svensker says:

    @Nora:

    Hardly have to do anything; my rep, Nita Lowey, has already gone on record in favor of the President’s plan, and I’m fortunate enough to have Gillibrand (very strong on gun control) and Schumer as my senators.

    A call to ask them to stand strong can’t go amiss. They’re surely getting calls from all the antis.

  32. 32
    Robin G. says:

    Called Sens. Franken and Klobuchar and Rep. McCollum. Said I was really worried about how Franken seemed ambivalent on the subject (I know he’s walked it back, but I wanted to be firm with them) and said I had a freezer full of venison that didn’t need an assault rifle to take down. Both offices sounded tired and gave the general “I’ll pass it on” message. McCollum’s office was a little better, asking for my name and promising to do whatever could be done given the state of the House, but, yeah.

    Gotta pay the bills today, so will probably jot down some handwritten letters on nice stationary. I’m guessing a real signature leaves an impact.

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    patrick II says:

    You goaded me into calling my representative — Scott Rigell, Virginia Dist 2. After standing in the voting line for about an hour last fall and talking to my fellow district 2 voters I figure I changed his calls to about 99 nra calls to 2 rational calls.

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    janeform says:

    Reposting my comment from yesterday (sorry — don’t know how to block quote):

    “Just called Rep. Dingell’s DC office. He supports reasonable measures but doesn’t have a statement on specifics, must take 2nd amendment into account blah blah blah. Staffer said they’re getting a lot of calls and they’re running 50/50.”

    I think Dingell’s a good target — a lot of his constituents are pro-gun.

  35. 35
    handsmile says:

    @MomSense:

    “…even if you don’t like your Congressperson, try to be kind and respectful with their staff.”

    This! In BLOCK CAPS and underlined! (if I knew how) Congressional staff members get a lot of abuse and those who answer the office telephones endure the most (and the least of it over the phone). Respect costs nothing and is often rewarded.

    On the matter of “receptiv[ity] at the local office,” however, my own experience has been that it depends largely on whether each of you is singing from the same page of the hymnal. Still, face-to-face encounters with local staff may be very effective, often crucial in developing advocacy relationships.

    Also, MomSense, as you are blessed to be a Mainer, iirc: do you know Angus King’s positions on issues of gun safety and whether he is likely to be supportive of Obama’s call to legislative action in the Senate?

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    Robin G. says:

    Small child was eating an apple while I talked to the Klobuchar office (I used speakerphone so to make it a civics lesson); my point about guns may have been undercut when child demanded the President order all the seeds out of all the apples. (ENTITLEMENTS!)

  37. 37
    elspi says:

    OH COME ON
    Virginia Foxx is a communist compared to lunatic that supposedly represents me. The only contact I could stand to have with him is ripping his lung out through his throat.

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    TooManyJens says:

    I called Sen. Durbin, Sen. Kirk, and Rep. Rodney Davis.

    I left voice mail at Kirk’s office saying that I supported the President and Vice President’s proposals, and stressed the importance of universal background checks. Davis’s staffer said he was on a retreat with House Republicans and couldn’t offer a specific response to the President’s proposals. He took down my message. Durbin has publicly come out in favor of sensible gun legislation, so I just said thanks. I didn’t get any impression from Davis’ or Durbin’s staffers that they were particularly tired or getting flooded, though I didn’t think to ask.

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    karen marie says:

    I called Grijalva and Salmon’s offices, encouraging them to support the president’s proposals but also to go one step further and propose an insurance scheme for weapons that would impose mandatory jail sentence and fines for anyone found to be in possession of an uninsured weapon. The reaction to that suggestion has been “wow! what a great idea!”

    Now I’m going to call McCain’s office. I left that for last because I tend to spit teeth when talking to those idjits.

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    Anna in PDX says:

    @Jerome: I got an email response from him saying he supports the president and also some bill that is already in the house. I will try to call him today just to add to the volume.

  41. 41

    Well, based on the prodding from my favorite website, I decided to call my congresscritter for the first time ever. You see, I live in Speaker Boehner’s district – one neighborhood over from him in fact, and always figured it to be a waste of time to call that nutbag.

    However, I did call and I feel better for having done it. I was as respectful as I could be, even referred to him as “The Speaker” the entire time.

    Said my piece and that was about it. The guy answering the phone took my name and city and was actually nice. I was surprised.

    Anyway – thanks BJ Front pagers – your cajoling paid off in a small way today.

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    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice says:

    My rep is Pelosi (long may she reign!). Where should I pretend to be from so I can call someone else’s rep and possibly counteract a bit of the gunnuttery?

  43. 43

    Went ahead and called Senators Brown and Portman. Unsurprisingly, Portman’s office talked about how he’s an unabashed supporter of the 2nd amendment and blah, blah, blah. Told the person I hoped he’d support the president and left it at that.

    Ain’t democracy grand?

  44. 44
    Marc says:

    Robert Gibbs is on the same page:

    “The president has the most exciting campaign apparatus ever built. It’s time to turn that loose,” Obama adviser Robert Gibbs said on MSNBC. “If the NRA has a list, then Obama for America has a bigger list.”

    I feel like I have just been schooled by Jimmy Malone. Maybe Republicans were onto something with all that “Chicago way” BS after all.

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    Xecky Gilchrist says:

    Done – Rep. Stewart, Utah. Staffer was polite, as was I. I don’t think Stewart is a teabagger per se but as a Utah Republican he’s likely far to the right of them. (I don’t know him well, I just got shuffled into his district in the latest round of gerrymandering.)

    Still, it is true that you have to call about stuff no matter how much your rep has stated they take the trog view.

  46. 46
    👽 Martin says:

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: I wouldn’t do this, but if you do really want to, check the CA district map and find the purple district closest to you with a GOP rep. Getting Dems on board isn’t that important here, because the challenge will be just getting it to the floor – and the GOP does that. We need some scared GOPs working for us – the equivalent of the NY/NJ GOPs that went ballistic when Sandy aid wasn’t taken up.

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    MaryJane says:

    I just called both the D.C. and local offices of my new teatard rep, Gary Miller. Said I was a gun-owner (not since I had kids) who supported the President’s very reasonable plan and wanted to know if the Congressman did too. Staffers were very polite, both said he is still studying the proposal. The D.C. rep took my name and address and said I would receive a reply. Not that I don’t already know what his position will be.

    My Senators are Boxer and Feinstein. I’ll call to thank them for their support, as TooManyJens did with Durbin.

  48. 48
    karen marie says:

    @RedDirtGirl: I long ago gave up asking what any congresscritter’s position is on anything — you always get a mealy-mouthed response, the phone-answerers are never given solid information that, yes, so-and-so supports or opposes anything.

    I just tell them which side I’m on and ask that the congresscritter take my position.

  49. 49
    RoonieRoo says:

    I called my rep. – Michael McCaul I want to thank everyone for their encouragement in that last thread. Aimee your advice was spot on. I was shaking like a leaf and I know my voice was too. But the person I talked to was very professional, kind and she listened. I am so glad y’all encouraged me to make the call.

    I told them that have guns in my house and I am glad I do. I support our right to own guns. We have a rifle and my husband’s grandfathers service revolver from when he was a deputy sheriff. More of a family heirloom, if you know what I mean.

    I then told my story about my husband’s death, ease of buying a gun even though he was a diagnosed schizophrenic with multiple hospitalizations. I told her that if he had not changed his mind about killing others that day (he had a list), he was prepared to kill me and many others. But somewhere inside of him, the good remained and he only ended his life instead of taking others with him. I don’t know what type of gun he bought since his boss found him after my husband talked me into leaving the house before he killed himself. His boss told me that I did not need those details. I just know it wasn’t simply a handgun.

    I told them that I support the initiatives that the President calls for and I need him to know that as his constituent where I stand and why.

    She was polite and nice and took my zip code and my name. I was shaking and had a hard time with the emotion but I’m glad I called.

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    TooManyJens says:

    @RoonieRoo: You are amazing. Thank you.

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    Elie says:

    I called Susan DelBene from WA state (new Representative). Not only voiced my support for the President’s proposed gun regulation, but also added two cents of my own related to mental health and how we can help that component of that issue. I sent a great article that the facilitator at the Northern VA National Alliance for the Mentally Ill – a support group for families and those with illness. I had a great conversation and sent the person the article and contact information for NAMI, so hopefully we can start talking about not just regulating guns and ammo, but providing more support and services for those who know someone who has mental illness…How ironic it would be if this horrible violence ended up the way to get better mental health services for all who need it —

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    jibeaux says:

    @RoonieRoo: That took tremendous guts and I really want to thank you too.

  53. 53
    Elie says:

    @RoonieRoo:

    Wow RoonieRoo!

    I just read your comment AFTER I posted mine related to the article written by the facilitator at the NAMI chapter that I attend. You have been through quite a bit and I send you a heart felt hug. There are NAMI chapters in many states and localities. Mine has helped me tremendously — my husband is bi-polar and we have had some hard times. They have given me enormous support — kindness, information — and friendship along the way. I encourage you to find one and possibly attend a meeting if you can. I was a skeptic until I did… I am not alone with this anymore…

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    Anna in PDX says:

    @RoonieRoo: Gosh that took a lot of bravery – thanks! I can’t imagine how much worse my life would have been if my husband, who was never diagnosed because he never would accept that mental health was even a thing, had managed to buy one (thank god we lived in a country that had very strict gun control at that time) or my son, who is PTSD and often gets unreasonably angry, had access to guns while living with me. I still hope my son does not go off and buy a gun on some whim, because it is so easy here. If he were on a list as mentally ill, that would save me a world of worrying. Maybe when I call I should bring that up. It is hard to talk about personal stuff to strangers on the phone. You have put an idea in my head though.

  55. 55
    jibeaux says:

    @Anna in PDX: You don’t have to go into any more detail than you want to, but just mention that the issue of mental health and access to firearms is one that hits very close to home for you followed by however much information you want to provide, and so you support these reasonable measures and feel like you could personally benefit from them. I think forming a personal link, if you can, to the legislation and your life is nice, and if nothing else it makes your call a little more memorable to that staffer.

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    Snarki, child of Loki says:

    Just called the local office of my GOP (non-teahadist, probably soon to be tagged as a RINO) congressman.

    Good interaction; he’s in favor of strong background checks, close the gun show loophole, other issues are “still looking at” (no ‘bad’ responses in the bunch, all good/undecided).

    So, I didn’t get a chance to use my canned question of “how many more kids have to be slaughtered before you’ll reconsider your position?”

    But feel free to use it on more appropriate targets. Think of it as an armor-piercing round.

  57. 57
    Elie says:

    @Anna in PDX:

    Not to intrude, Anna, but please look up NAMI in your area. There is lots of support (like critical information on what to do, key specialists, your rights, your son’s rights, what to look out for, avoid,etc) . Just google it.

    I’ll butt out now…

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    handsmile says:

    @RoonieRoo:

    So glad you wrote back to update us; I was hoping you would! Congratulations and thanks!

    I’m sure others who might be reading these posts and wavering will now be inspired and encouraged to make calls by your example.

    Also, I’d like to second, emphatically, Elie’s recommendation above (#51) on the magnificent work done by NAMI. For more than ten years, I’ve been a volunteer for activities of its NYC chapter. As Elie wrote, it’s a national organization with far-flung programs and affiliates. Perhaps it might be of interest to you.

    http://www.nami.org/Template.c.....Finder.cfm

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    gogol's wife says:

    @karen marie:

    That’s my strategy as well. Whenever I ask them to tell me something I come up pretty empty, beyond generalities.

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    gogol's wife says:

    @RoonieRoo:

    Good for you. Thank you.

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    MomSense says:

    @handsmile:

    I do think he will be and we will work to make sure he is!

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    Lizzy L says:

    Blue Californian here: my Senators are Boxer and Feinstein, both of whom are strong supporters of the President’s policies, and my Congressman is George Miller, same. I’m calling all 3 offices to thank them for their support.

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    Anna in PDX says:

    Thanks Elie, one of my cousins (who just passed away – inflammatory breast cancer – she was 62) has a 30 something schizophrenic son and is a NAMI activist, I think she was maybe the chapter president or something in her area. I have used their website for looking up info, I should become more active in the organization. My son is grown and does not live with me and is not currently in therapy, but I keep hoping he will eventually realize that he needs treatment.

    At any rate I can sure remember when my ex was pursuing getting a gun in his country and the idea of him having a gun was seriously scary. I was so relieved that no matter how many strings he pulled the answer was still no. Now I am also considering a hand written letter.

    Living in OR of course all my reps/sens are pretty liberal but it will help them to see that it is not just about the NRA but about people who have mental illness in their family especially when the mental illness is sharing a brain with a person who is very angry. That guy in Connecticut might never have done what he did if his mom had not had those guns, and she might very well be alive today.

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    Flitterbic says:

    Just laid it on some poor staff member of Price (R) – Ga. The sniveling wimp of a man posted his “perspective” in response to Obama’s gun control proposal: it’s the mental health care system’s fault. Despicable.

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    gogol's wife says:

    The Coalition To Stop Gun Violence is running an ad asking people to call Rep. Barrow (D-Ga). It features excerpts from his disgusting campaign ad with him fondling his weapons, intercut with the news from Newtown:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....Xuu7GSTDiQ

    The ad is heavy-handed but that’s what we need right now.

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    the shooters weren’t criminals. It’s not about the criminals. It’s about seemingly normal people being normal right up until they slip over some edge we don’t see. And guns all around. And violence both heightened and downgraded at the same time. So we either learn how to see who”s “normal”, on a continuing basis, or we decide that the choices available to “normal” people are perhaps too broad.

    Many gun fans point out that Britain, without guns, has a higher crime rate. Our gun homicide rate is 90 times higher. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.....death_rate) Our crimes must be special – maybe guns? And much of that so-called crime – pickpockets and street fights- I don’t care about. Heck, I don’t care about our gang shootings; I consider them all volunteers.

    I care about crazed people that desire public punishment and subsequent notoriety. I’ll be magnanimous here and say that gun owners and crazy aren’t the same thing, but we, as a society, can’t let them overlap. So the availability, the trade and commerce of guns deemed dangerous must be difficult. For seemingly normal people. Reaching out for these guns MUST attract notice in proper areas.

    By outlawing all sales of certain guns, we freeze the market. Owners own, but are stuck with what they have. Since I don’t believe pasty-white young gameBOYS have good links to an underground gun market, they will not be able to find many guns. I bet we can identify misfits through their efforts to find theses guns – since they start as misfits within a secure society and try to delve into the hastily created underground.

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    Elie says:

    @Anna in PDX:

    Thanks Anna —

    Actually, I found that NAMI helped ME before it helped me help my husband. He was (and still is, to some extent)fighting denial about his illness and has ambivalence about taking control of it. I personally, however, feel solidly planted in comparison to before where a mixture of extreme anxiety and loneliness over his/our prospects was just terribly demoralizing. And the the inability to talk to anyone who I could divulge all the ugly stuff to.. certainly not my mother or relatives — not even my very best friends — With NAMI I could plan with good information given without judgement but by people who care. They also weren’t given to being swayed by BS.
    They have family support groups and education as well as peer support groups for recovering folks. They also bring in special guests and experts (like an expert on drugs, etc) to help people figure out their options and oversee their own or family member’s treatment. They also have a lot of knowledge about the legal issues —

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    ruemara says:

    @RoonieRoo: Wow, bless you.

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    coredump says:

    My congresscritter is Tim Walberg (R) – MI CD 7. Called and let his office know how I feel. Afraid that it will not make too much of a difference.

    -C-

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    WaterGirl says:

    Just called my new sleazy “I’ll lie and say anything about my opponent in order to get elected” Republican congressman’s office. Rodney Davis, IL-13. I didn’t even want to call because that means coming to terms that this lying shitbag is really our congressman. But I called anyway.

    He’s on retreat and hasn’t had a chance to look at what the president has proposed. They said he is “pro 2nd amendment” and I said the president is, too, and that nothing the president proposed is anti-2nd amendment.

    I will call again tomorrow.

    *Damn, you, Tim, now I’m all upset again that this lying scumbag is my rep.

    :: deep breath ::

    Edit: I mean that in the nicest possible way. So grateful that you are still here poking us with sticks to make us get off our collective butts. Speaking of still here, where’s Max?

    I think everybody who makes a call should get a photo of Max.

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    CatHairEverywhere says:

    My Congressman is Whip/Young Gun Kevin Mc Carthy. Should I even bother? He is in the safest of all safe districts in the crazy red middle of the state and doesn’t ever seem very interested in his constituents. Would my efforts be better spent pretending to live somewhere else?

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    gogol's wife says:

    @WaterGirl:

    Autographed.

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    gogol's wife says:

    @CatHairEverywhere:

    Call. You can be sure the NRA people call liberals all the time.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @CatHairEverywhere: If you and others like you call him, then he can no longer say 95% of my calls are in favor of / against [whatever].

    That’s how it helps if you call.

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    MomSense says:

    @RoonieRoo:

    (((RonnieRoo))) You are amazing and brave!!

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