Stop the things you do….watch out!

I’m sure Marcus was very upset about this:

Michelle Bachmann’s high-profile debate coach, Brett O’Donnell, developed an “unnatural” and “Rasputin-like” relationship with his candidate during her failed 2012 presidential campaign, another former aide told BuzzFeed, a charge O’Donnell denies.

Peter Waldron, an evangelical organizer who served as Iowa field coordinator for Bachmann and helped her win the Ames straw poll said O’Donnell exercised an “unusual power over Mrs. Bachmann.” Waldron and other former Bachmann staff also currently say the Congresswoman has yet to pay them for debts owned from her short-lived campaign.

“He prohibited her husband, Dr. Marcus Bachmann, from sleeping in the same room with wife while on the campaign trail,” Waldron said in an email to BuzzFeed.






136 replies
  1. 1
    Roger Moore says:

    He prohibited her husband, Dr. Marcus Bachmann, from sleeping in the same room with wife while on the campaign trail

    Are we sure Marcus didn’t pay him to say that?

  2. 2
    japa21 says:

    Do we have any evidence that they sleep together when not on the campaign trail?

  3. 3
    kindness says:

    I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop.

    I bet BJers could make that really funny…..

  4. 4

    Sorry to go OT so soon (in my defense we haven’t had an open thread in what seems like weeks) If it floats your boat please go and sign this petition at Whitehouse.gov.

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/mandate-ag-seek-sanctions-costs-and-attorneys-fees-recover-taxpayer-funds-used-defend-birther/qB6gkrBv

    Mandate the AG to seek sanctions, costs, and attorneys’ fees to recover taxpayer funds used to defend birther lawsuits.

    Hundreds of repetitious and frivolous lawsuits have been filed challenging President Obama’s status as a natural born citizen. These lawsuits have clogged up the courts and cost the taxpayers millions of dollars in court costs and attorneys’ fees.

    We, the taxpayers, respectfully petition for an Executive Order or directive to the Attorney General to seek to recover taxpayer funds expended in defending frivolous Birther lawsuits by requesting sanctions, costs, and attorneys’ fees in each and every pending or future case.

    Kthnxbai

  5. 5
    Robin G. says:

    Oh, please, let there be an investigation. Please.

  6. 6
    PurpleGirl says:

    So Bachmann is another Republican who doesn’t seem to like paying her bills.

  7. 7
    Keith says:

    Maybe it was a “Rasmussin-like” hold, where he led Bachmann to believe she was a better debater than she really was.

  8. 8
    Todd says:

    Nookie weakens legs. Everyone knows this.

  9. 9
    taylormattd says:

    LMAO

  10. 10
    Jay in Oregon says:

    @Robin G.:
    An investigation into birther lawsuits or the Bachmann thing?

    If it’s the latter, personally I don’t give a flying fuck where Marcus slept while Michelle was on the campaign trail. If she wants to surround herself with grifters and charlatans to make herself even more of a laughingstock, more power to her.

    (Just resign from Congress first, mkay?)

  11. 11
    Alexandra says:

    Gold.

  12. 12
    Hal says:

    “He prohibited her husband, Dr. Marcus Bachmann, from sleeping in the same room with wife while on the campaign trail,” Waldron said in an email to BuzzFeed.

    The jokes, they write themselves.

  13. 13
    MikeJ says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: That’s an incredibly bad idea. The gov could make a motion for sanctions under rule 11 in each case, and maybe you can argue they should. Going back and doing it retroactively is bad politics in that it looks like the Obama admin is going after people “trying to get at the truth” blah blah.

    I’m not saying Taitz isn’t nuts, or that her suits aren’t frivolous.

  14. 14
    Raven says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Plus, Gex is waiting for an open thread to update us.

  15. 15
    The Dangerman says:

    He prohibited her husband, Dr. Marcus Bachmann, from sleeping in the same room with wife while on the campaign trail…

    So, was Brett O’Donnell sleeping with Michelle (ewww) or Marcus (ewww)?

    ETA: Since the key verb in there is “sleeping”, it could have been a threesome (EWWWWWWWWW)

  16. 16

    He did put a spell on her … So which version of the song is your fave DougJ? CCR version was OK, but I prefer the original Screamin’ Jay and this one by Nina Simone.

  17. 17
    Cassidy says:

    @Todd: Old cornerman’s tale. Nookie increases testosterone.

  18. 18
    mai naem says:

    How much does this idiot owe anyway? She’s got to have a fat stash in her kitty. Why can’t she figure out a way of using that to pay her old debts? It should not be that hard. I saw the piece around the holidays on Bill Clinton emailing supporters offering to have them spend a day with him in exhange in helping retire Hillary Clinton’s $50,000 campaign debt. And I didn’t read the number wrong – it was $50K. Bill Clinton gets paid more than that for a speech. Why can’t he just give a speech for $50K and be done with the debt?

  19. 19
    Napoleon says:

    “Rasputin-like” relationship

    Awesome – I wonder if anyone tryied to kill him?

  20. 20
    Bulworth says:

    Peter Waldron, an evangelical organizer

    Wait, is that like a community organizer?

  21. 21
    Raven says:

    @The Ancient Randonneur: In American Hot Wax Jay pops out of a coffin on stage complete with a bone through his nose to sing it!

    like dis

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VHqS.....kinsn1.jpg

  22. 22
    J. Michael Neal says:

    Are there any browsers that actually fucking work? I had to give up on Firefox because it kept crashing. Now Chrome has locked up my whole computer three times today.

    Gah!

  23. 23
    J. Michael Neal says:

    @mai naem:

    She’s got to have a fat stash in her kitty.

    I didn’t need that image.

  24. 24
    MattR says:

    @MikeJ:

    Going back and doing it retroactively is bad politics in that it looks like the Obama admin is going after people “trying to get at the truth” blah blah.

    I thought that was why the petition limited itself to “each and every pending or future case.”

  25. 25
    Cassidy says:

    @The Dangerman:

    She’s got to have a fat stash stache in on her kitty

    Take that.

  26. 26
    gene108 says:

    @mai naem:

    It should not be that hard. I saw the piece around the holidays on Bill Clinton emailing supporters offering to have them spend a day with him in exhange in helping retire Hillary Clinton’s $50,000 campaign debt.

    One doesn’t become filthy rich by using their own money to pay things like their bills or debts.

    That’s for the little people.

  27. 27
    Joel says:

    Was Santorum involved?

  28. 28
    MikeJ says:

    @Raven: Screamin’ Jay was also awesome in Mystery Train.

  29. 29
    Raven says:

    @MikeJ: Yup, hotel clerk!

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  31. 31
    Punchy says:

    OT:

    Gotta say, this is some sick disgusting shit. I had no idea this conspiracy theory was out there, but holy jesus at a luau, this is fucked up.

  32. 32
    MikeJ says:

    @MattR: You’re right.

  33. 33
    quannlace says:

    Repub candidates are really racking up the reputation for being major dead-beats. Wonder who’s gonna rush to work for the in 2016?

  34. 34
    jibeaux says:

    “He prohibited her husband, Dr. Marcus Bachmann, from sleeping in the same room with wife while on the campaign trail,”

    Seems like that’s the kind of meddling that would get your ass very quickly fired — unless of course neither party particularly objects to it.

  35. 35

    Who stays home with the 23 foster children?

  36. 36
    Aaron Baker says:

    You’ve given me a mental picture of Michelle Bachmann WITH Rasputin. Thanks.

  37. 37
    Trinity says:

    Creepy.

    We dodged soooo many bullets.

  38. 38
    Ash Can says:

    Um…green balloons?

  39. 39
    General Stuck says:

    No one could have stopped that level of bleeding.

  40. 40
    Patricia Kayden says:

    Bachmann is such a laughingstock. How do Minnesotans justify foisting her on the American public?

    And no one can put a spell on Crazy Eyes. She chose to delude herself into thinking that Americans would put someone like her anywhere near the White House.

  41. 41
    Raven says:

    @Raven: Check him gettin out of the limo in this great scene Don’t Know Why I Love You

  42. 42
    peach flavored shampoo says:

    @Punchy: If you’re going off-topic with some sick dispicable shit, let’s please include this.

  43. 43
    Napoleon says:

    @Aaron Baker:

    You’ve given me a mental picture of Michelle Bachmann WITH Rasputin.

    The real question is which one of those two is the crazier?

  44. 44
    replicnt6 says:

    Since it’s come up, best lip sync ever:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0exXGfzivJ8

  45. 45
    roc says:

    @gene108:

    One doesn’t become filthy rich by using their own money to pay things like their bills or debts.

    Sadly, this.
    Debt can be discharged. And her campaign is almost certainly structured to insulate her own money from any bankruptcy or civil proceedings.

    So why in the world would she pay up? “The campaign” is a fiction with no assets. Who cares what happens to it?

  46. 46
    Maude says:

    Gex, you don’t need an open thread to tell us about how you are doing. We have been waiting to hear.

  47. 47
    Face says:

    Maybe O’Donnell was HPV vaxxed and became somewhat retarded during her campaign. At least they would have made a very good match for each other.

  48. 48
    Chyron HR says:

    @quannlace:

    Repub candidates are really racking up the reputation for being major dead-beats. Wonder who’s gonna rush to work for the in 2016?

    UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH!

    ONLY 199 WEEKS UNTIL PRESIDENT-ELECT [insert Republican’s name here]!

  49. 49
    Another Halocene Human says:

    Okay, now I’ve really heard it all.

  50. 50
    Tonal Crow says:

    @J. Michael Neal:

    Are there any browsers that actually fucking work? I had to give up on Firefox because it kept crashing. Now Chrome has locked up my whole computer three times today.

    [ETA: I bet malware is causing your problems. Firefox works reasonably well for millions of users. So:]

    1. Scan your computer for malware using something good, e.g., Avast. Download it on a trustworthy computer, check the digital signature, then burn it to a CD-R (NOT CD-RW). Use that to scan your suspect computer.

    2. Avoid using extensions unless you really really need them. Don’t install extensions (or anything else!) lacking valid digital signatures.

    3. Run your browser in a limited user account, not in an administrator account.

  51. 51
    Another Halocene Human says:

    @japa21: Do we have any evidence that they sleep together when not on the campaign trail?

    Oh, I can just see it: Michele with her hot migraine mask, Marcus with his mud mask to keep that youthful glow and his feet propped up and slathered in lotion, with light classical music emitting tastefully from the bedside alarm clock/CD player as Marcus catches up on the latest psychology fashion mags.

    The only thing marring the soft, tasteful ambiance are the childproof bottles of Imitrex and nasal decongestant on Michele’s bedside table.

  52. 52
    Linda Featheringill says:

    @replicnt6:

    Great sync! Not my favorite song anyway and that little show certainly put the tune in it’s proper place!

  53. 53
    Woodrowfan says:

    @mai naem:

    there are campaign laws still that limit the amount one person, even the candidate’s spouse, can give to the campaign.

  54. 54
    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Keith: Hahahaha, genius!

  55. 55
    Another Halocene Human says:

    @mai naem: It’s the Clintons. Accept it and move on. I wasn’t looking forward to voting another one in and I’m grateful I didn’t have to.

    /Team Barack

  56. 56
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @roc: Why anybody would work for any political campaign without being paid regularly and frequently, and cashing the checks immediately, is beyond me.

    And any contractors or service providers who do anything for any campaign for any consideration other than cash on delivery need their head examined.

  57. 57
    Cluttered Mind says:

    The comparisons really started flying when the campaign staff stabbed, poisoned, and shot O’Donnell without any real effect.

  58. 58
    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    @jibeaux:

    Seems like that’s the kind of meddling that would get your ass very quickly fired — unless of course neither party particularly objects to it.

    Hell, he was banging on her like a gypsy banging on a tambourine – to help her win the debates of course.

  59. 59
    ChrisNYC says:

    Bachmann’s campaign isn’t broke. They have like $2 mill in the bank. They’re not paying these Iowa people because they wouldn’t sign NDAs. The campaign asked them to sign NDAs because there is an actual criminal investigation(!) going on into whether Bachmann’s campaign stole a mailing list from one of her volunteers — very bad form. SO the campaign said, sign the NDA and agree to advise OUR lawyers if and when you’re going to talk to the cops and THEN we’ll pay you. Crazy nonsense.

  60. 60
    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Woodrowfan: You can’t do a speech as a fundraiser? Serious question, b/c I do some 501c work on the side.

  61. 61
    Raven says:

    Schumer said in a press release, “Based on several key assurances provided by Senator Hagel, I am currently prepared to vote for his confirmation. I encourage my Senate colleagues who have shared my previous concerns to also support him.”

  62. 62
    Tonal Crow says:

    @ChrisNYC: Got a source for that? It gives my feather-roots a distinct obstruction-of-justice tremor.

  63. 63
    J. Michael Neal says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    How do Minnesotans justify foisting her on the American public?

    I blame St. Cloud.

  64. 64
    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Gin & Tonic: You know what they say about doing business with someone who goes on and on about how religious they are.

    @ChrisNYC: Whoa, I did not know this dirt. Linkie please? I thought there were some pretty strict rules about ‘sharing’ mailing lists, never mind stealing(?) them.

    How does that work, anyway? I mean, didn’t walk into a campaign boiler room with a mailing list in hand… Not my mailing list. I was using theirs when volunteering. And I didn’t walk out of their boiler room with theirs. So weird.

  65. 65
    Napoleon says:

    @ChrisNYC:

    Is that even remotely legal for them to do that?

  66. 66
    Tonal Crow says:

    @Napoleon: No. If such a thing were done, I’m quite sure it would constitute obstruction of justice.

  67. 67
    Mandalay says:

    @Tonal Crow:

    I bet malware is causing your problems.

    Me too. I was about to suggest an approach pretty similar to yours…download the free version of AVG and run it from a thumb drive, and optionally delete/reinstall the broken browser(s) as an added precaution. And run AVG all the time so it doesn’t happen again.

  68. 68
    trollhattan says:

    @J. Michael Neal:

    That one stopped me dead, also, too.

  69. 69
    ChrisNYC says:

    @Tonal Crow:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....ign-staff/

    The evangelical put out a press release (!) on a Christian PR service. Too wingnutty fantastic.

  70. 70
    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Raven: Aaaaaand the biggest dildoes in Congress decide to attend the DC J/O party after all.

    Do they still advertise in the Washington Blade?

  71. 71
    J. Michael Neal says:

    @Mandalay: Is AVG like all of the other antivirus software I’ve tried other than the free Microsoft stuff? I.e. it clogs up the computer to the point where you might as well have the malware.

  72. 72
    Mandalay says:

    @Raven:

    Schumer said in a press release, “Based on several key assurances provided by Senator Hagel, I am currently prepared to vote for his confirmation

    I wonder how long it will take for someone to ask “Why does Schumer hate Israel?”.

  73. 73
    Raven says:

    @Another Halocene Human: Is there an e in dildos?

  74. 74
    ChrisNYC says:

    @Another Halocene Human: I remember it vaguely coming up during the primaries. The way I remember it, the volunteer had a pro-life email list on her pc and then those people started to get solicitations from the Bachmann campaign and she was pissed and said the campaign stole it from her pc. But the recent links say it was a homeschooling list.

  75. 75
    Ash Can says:

    @Punchy: Good fucking grief. There’s no depth to which these people won’t go.

  76. 76
    Maude says:

    @J. Michael Neal:
    Stay away from AVG. Don’t install anything.
    Do you have the most recent version of FF? It’s 18.
    You can disable all extensions by running FF in safe mode.
    I doubt it’s anything like malware, you’d get different symptoms than that.
    I would also uninstall FF and then install it again. That worked for me a long time ago.

  77. 77
    Cain says:

    That’s because Mr. O’Donnell wants Marcus all for himself!
    Cuz for ol Marcus it was campaign of a lifetime. Mwahahaha!

  78. 78
    AA+ Bonds says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Are we sure Marcus didn’t pay him to say that?

    Yeah, first thing I thought of . . . this guy may have instead been dealing with the hairy problem of explaining exactly why the (ever-so-hetero!) Marcus doesn’t sleep in the same bed as his wife, and this may have been how he jumped on the grenade.

    Pretty deft way to cover for the Gay Husband.

  79. 79
    Another Halocene Human says:

    @ChrisNYC: Hahaha, apparently xtian homeschoolers’ association is Newspeak for ‘suckers!’

  80. 80
    Suffern ACE says:

    My guess on the sleeping arrangements? Marcus probably snores, keeping her awake at night and without sleep, she becomes incoherent and comes off as crabby. The speechwriter knows that crabby incoherent people don’t really inspire voters outside of gerrymandered districts.

  81. 81
    artem1s says:

    @Woodrowfan:

    It took John Glenn about 20 years to settle his campaign debt from the 80s. The last couple thousand were the worst too.

  82. 82
    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Raven: Apparently spellcheck doesn’t think so. But traditionally words ending in “o” get an “es” plural ending. (Perhaps because some Greek loanword singular forms end in “os”, or perhaps it was phonetic.) I realize that newer words ending in “o” usually don’t. The singular of “cookies” used to be “cooky”. I suppose I am doomed to be behind the times.

  83. 83
    AA+ Bonds says:

    It’s always funny to go back and look at the “problems” the 2012 Republican candidates had:

    Cain: multiple extramarital affairs, charges of sexual assault

    Perry: nonstop gay-and-in-the-closet rumors

    Bachmann: nonstop gay-and-in-the-closet rumors concerning her husband

    Gingrich: three marriages with multiple adulterous relationships

    You begin to see why Rove wanted Romney for all his flaws . . .

  84. 84
    imonlylurking says:

    @Maude: The best way to keep your computer safe is to have a good antivirus AND good antispyware. (I picked up a bit of spyware that crashed my antivirus software until I managed to get it removed.)

    I use Malwarebytes and Super Anti Spyware. I’ve got the free versions so there isn’t real-time protection but these two have removed anything I’ve managed to get.

    That’s not to say you have a virus or spyware. Try the uninstalling/reinstalling FF first-you can get an app to save your bookmarks or download them to a separate file. If you do have something sticky, you may need to alternate running the Spyware scan and the antivirus scan. If all else fails, there are forums where you can post the problem and somebody can walk you through the fix. Just google something like ‘need help removing virus’ and they will come up.

  85. 85
    Brachiator says:

    @Roger Moore:

    He prohibited her husband, Dr. Marcus Bachmann, from sleeping in the same room with wife while on the campaign trail

    The political slash fiction almost writes itself. Or a BDSM novel, Fifty Shades of Marcus, or I Like to Watch.

    @kindness:

    I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop.

    That’s not a shoe…

  86. 86
    Tonal Crow says:

    @Maude:

    I doubt it’s anything like malware, you’d get different symptoms than that.

    Malware can cause a huge variety of symptoms. Crashing and lockups (of both programs and an entire system) are very typical.

  87. 87
    Mandalay says:

    @Maude:

    Stay away from AVG.

    Because?….

  88. 88
    Steeplejack says:

    @J. Michael Neal:

    In my experience, AVG is pretty good, doesn’t have an onerous footprint, but I switched over to Microsoft Security Essentials about a year ago and haven’t had any problems. (Didn’t have any problems with AVG either.) I’m running Windows XP and using Firefox.

  89. 89
    Warren Terra says:

    .
    .
    O O O’Donnell
    Lover of the moron queen
    There was a cat that really was gone
    O O O’Donnell
    Right wing’s greatest love machine
    It was a shame how he carried on

    (source)

  90. 90
    AA+ Bonds says:

    The sort of sad part is that from what we know of the Bachmanns’ beliefs, if Marcus is gay, then Michele Bachmann is probably getting the same line that I heard related second-hand by many Southern women seeking assistance and dependent on their churches:

    “The preacher says it’s my duty as a wife and Christian to stick with him.”

    I heard this from women regarding not only abuse and hetero adultery but, yes, clear evidence that their husbands were engaging in homosexual affairs.

    Bachmann doesn’t have the excuse those women did – she doesn’t depend on a church pantry to feed her kids – but if she’s in the same boat, everyone from Marcus on down in her patriarchal sect is telling her that the burden of living in a loveless marriage is on her, the wife.

    And in her sect, Marcus is her master, as she admitted when describing how he told her what job to take.

  91. 91
    imonlylurking says:

    @imonlylurking: This was supposed to be a response to J Michael Neal, not Maude.

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    Mandalay says:

    @J. Michael Neal:

    Is AVG like all of the other antivirus software I’ve tried other than the free Microsoft stuff? I.e. it clogs up the computer to the point where you might as well have the malware.

    All I know is that it is free and has worked for me for years with no issues at all, and every now and again I click a link and AVG jumps in and prevents bad things happening. Only one person’s experience of course, but I think AVG is great.

    I also have it set to perform a daily scan, but since that runs at 4 a.m. I have no idea how resource intensive it is.

  93. 93
    johnny aquitard says:

    @Punchy: They’re desperate to avoid facing the truth: That the slaughter of an entire classroom of kindergarteners was made possible by the widespread availability of assault and other high-cap weapons.

    And that means regulation if not outright ban.

    And they can’t deal with that. They don’t want to accept it. So they insist it never happened. And attack people whose actions make it difficult for them to maintain that denial. With the result that a mensch like Rosen gets harassed and threatened for his act of compassion.

    These freaks make me want to vomit. They’ve just demonstrated they’re mentally unfit to own any sort of firearm.

  94. 94
    kindness says:

    @J. Michael Neal:

    it clogs up the computer to the point where you might as well have the malware

    Not if you have a Mac my friend.

  95. 95
    NotMax says:

    @Mandalay

    Several other things which may prove helpful.

    1) While for the longest time I was a strong proponent of free AVG, Avast or Avira, they all have become bloated over time. Frankly, enabling Microsoft Security Essentials* to run works just as well, IMHO.

    *cannot be used with Windows 8

    2) If by any chance you are using a router and also have a firewall application installed and running – turn off that application. Your router IS your firewall. Having 2 firewalls simultaneously can cause glitches, burps and crashes.

    3) Download and run a scan with Malwarebytes. If you cannot access the Malwarebytes site or if you cannot install or run it, then your computer is very, very seriously compromised and needs to be taken to a professional.

    I do also have Super Anti-spyware installed and run a scan using that from time to time to see if there is anything that might have sneaked through. To the present day, nothing has.

    4) Check if there have been released any updates of drivers for your graphics card or graphics chip and if so, update.

  96. 96
    AA+ Bonds says:

    @NotMax:

    I know at least three large universities that have dropped contracts with Symantec in favor of Security Essentials. For better or for worse, it seems to be the new normal.

  97. 97
    kindness says:

    @AA+ Bonds:

    You begin to see why Rove wanted Romney for all his money flaws . . .

    fify

  98. 98
    aretino says:

    @Ash Can: Look up “Green Balloon Juice” in the lexicon … good times.

  99. 99
    AA+ Bonds says:

    @kindness:

    I could believe that Romney isn’t gay. The French houseboy thing was a bit much. I think it’s pretty clear that Santorum is satisfied with his wife.

  100. 100
    Maude says:

    @Mandalay:
    AVG installs extras on a computer. It isn’t good.
    If you don’t know what is wrong, don’t install anything.
    These free anti virus programs are not what they are cracked up to be.
    I tested them on a clean Windows install and got readings of tons of viruses. False.
    The Microsoft anti virus program is safe.
    @imonlylurking:
    I was a volunteer computer tech for years. I set up machines, implemented a system of networking and also refurbished machines.
    I had 3 different operating systems in use. I managed the computers as well.
    I don’t care what anyone does with their computer. It’s their problem.
    When I suggest something, it is because It has worked.
    The only freeware antivirus that was good was Ad Aware by Lavasoft. It is no longer free.
    I usually don’t comment on tech issues.
    I think I’ll go back to that.

  101. 101
    Tonal Crow says:

    @NotMax:

    2) If by any chance you are using a router and also have a firewall application installed and running – turn off that application. Your router IS your firewall. Having 2 firewalls simultaneously can cause glitches, burps and crashes.

    This is a bad idea. If you’re using WiFi, you need a firewall program in your computer, period, because attacks can occur through that vector irrespective of whether the intended other end of the connection is a firewalled router. If you’re using only ethernet, you need a firewall program in your computer if there are circumstances in which the other end of the ethernet cable does not go to a trustworthy firewalled router, such as if you use a laptop on the road and connect it directly to, say, a library’s public network.

    Also, please explain how using both a hardware firewall and a software firewall can cause “crashes”.

  102. 102
    Maude says:

    @imonlylurking:
    I responded to you, sorry.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    I understand the sentiment, but keep a couple of things in mind:

    (a) as the number one repeat player in the U.S. District Courts, it’s in DOJ’s interest that district judges not run around willy-nilly imposing sanctions on every litigant or counsel that pisses them off. Under such a regime, DOJ could very well end up as a net payor.

    (b) the bigger issue is, do you really want the White House micro-managing DOJ? We had a taste of that under the Bush regime, and I don’t remember being especially happy about it.

  104. 104
    Mandalay says:

    @AA+ Bonds:

    Bachmann doesn’t have the excuse those women did – she doesn’t depend on a church pantry to feed her kids – but if she’s in the same boat, everyone from Marcus on down in her patriarchal sect is telling her that the burden of living in a loveless marriage is on her, the wife.

    A few things…
    – There is no solid evidence that her husband is gay.
    – Even if he is gay, that does not mean that they do not have sex.
    – Regardless of whether he is gay, and whether they have sex, there is no evidence that they have a “loveless marriage”. It is perfectly possible to have a loving marriage without sex. There are literally millions of couples in that situation for a variety of reasons.
    – Buzzfeed is unreliable drivel, on a par with Tucker Carlson and Drudge.

    I find it disappointing that so many are going after Bachmann for her choice of husband rather than her failure to pay her bills.

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    johnny aquitard says:

    @jibeaux:

    unless of course neither party particularly objects to it.

    Precisely.

    And it doesn’t have to be O’Donnell’s meddling. It could have been very convenient for Crazy Eyes and Marcus to let it be known that it was at O’Donnell’s insistence.

    Ah, religious hypocrites. As long as they give the rubes even the thinnest thread of propriety to weave an entire wardrobe out of, they will.

  106. 106
    Bill Arnold says:

    @J. Michael Neal:
    Probably not related, I had some Firefox lockup problems in the last week with firefox that didn’t go away until I disabled all the realplayer plugins. (Not sure how they got installed).
    You could try starting without add ons. (This is an item off the help menu in my FF).

  107. 107
    AA+ Bonds says:

    @Mandalay:

    I’m pretty sure I wasn’t going after her at all. I have nothing but sympathy for her as a woman married to a gay man, if, deferring to you, that’s the case.

  108. 108
    AA+ Bonds says:

    I suppose it’s possible that they’re both gay. I know a couple people who did that.

  109. 109
    NotMax says:

    @Toanl Crow

    If one is using Wi-Fi and doesn’t have it locked down, that’s an open invitation.

    Note I did not say “uninstall” – the firewall application is still there to be enabled for away from home use.

    Explanation: personal experience with those problems which were 100% resolved by disabling the independent firewall, plus a 2 thumbs up for doing so from a close friend whose business (for over 20 years now) is fixing computers.

  110. 110
    Maude says:

    @NotMax:
    Yup.
    I don’t understand why people don’t secure their routers.

  111. 111
    Tonal Crow says:

    @NotMax:

    @Toanl
    If one is using Wi-Fi and doesn’t have it locked down, that’s an open invitation.

    What do you mean by:”locked down”? Even if the WiFi hotspot device is using appropriate encryption, computers that connect to it are independently vulnerable to intrusions, and must also be firewalled.

    Note I did not say “uninstall” – the firewall application is still there to be enabled for away from home use.

    The problems there are (1) many people will forget to do that, leaving their systems entirely unprotected; and (2) if another computer on your LAN becomes infected, a software firewall will provide some defense against acquiring the infection.

    Explanation: personal experience with those problems which were 100% resolved by disabling the independent firewall, plus a 2 thumbs up for doing so from a close friend whose business (for over 20 years now) is fixing computers.

    Got any details? I’m very curious, because I work in computer security. This is the very first time I’ve heard of the combination of a hardware firewall and software firewall causing “crashes”. ETA: it could be that the software firewall is buggy, and would cause crashes whether or not the hardware firewall was also present.

  112. 112
    J. Michael Neal says:

    I use Microsoft Security Essentials. It is the *only* anti-virus software I’ve tried that didn’t cause problems.

  113. 113
    trollhattan says:

    @Maude:
    Wife.gov’s company installed an AVG suite on her computer, unbeknownst to her or me, and I thought I was battling malware until I had her ask. For one thing it semi took over her browsers, especially IE. Personally, I’d use something else based on my admittedly brief encounter.

    Malwarebytes occasionally snags things the MS security suite misses, so that’s my backup.

    Anybody having browser issues should determine whether it’s related to the Java kerfuffle and various stopgap actions the browser folks took over the weekend as they awaited a fix from Oracle. And think of this when you watch Larry’s boat in the next America’s Cup.

  114. 114
    NotMax says:

    @Tonal Crow

    It was so long ago that details are fuzzy, but it was a freezing problem rather than a full-on BSOD. Culprit was free ZoneAlarm.

    Reading back, I did state it clumsily, and see how it could be interpreted to say that having both is bad practice. That was not the intention – rather the intention was to troubleshoot by disabling the application.

    Should have said (and apologize for not doing so) that 1) it might be the culprit and if disabling the firewall application does not fix the problem, then go ahead and re-enable it. Or 2) use the Windows firewall instead.

    If you’re on a LAN, then having an independent firewall is absolutely a good thing. And no one should ever plug in a flash drive to an unprotected computer.

  115. 115
    Maude says:

    @J. Michael Neal:
    #112. I hope you solve this. It is truly annoying when a browser acts up.

  116. 116
    Mandalay says:

    @NotMax:

    Download and run a scan with Malwarebytes.

    I forgot to mention that, and agree completely.

  117. 117
    Maude says:

    @trollhattan:
    FF disabled Java in my plugins some time back. I checked my plugin list and it was disabled. JRE is also a problem and it has been said to uninstall it.
    I forgot about Java. THanks for talking about it.
    The Older Adobe acrobat was also disabled. I had a newer version, but FF disabled it. I left it that way.

  118. 118
    kindness says:

    @Mandalay:

    I find it disappointing that so many are going after Bachmann for her choice of husband rather than her failure to pay her bills.

    Stop being so serious. We are mocking Bachmann by talking about her so. Especially since she is such a sainted christian lady type, the hypocrisy makes the mock all the more delicious.

  119. 119
    grandpa john says:

    @Punchy: I agree but as to the guy not knowing what to do, I can give him a clue,first thing you do is change your phone number and get an unlisted one.

  120. 120
    Mandalay says:

    @AA+ Bonds:

    I’m pretty sure I wasn’t going after her at all.

    No, you weren’t, and if my post implied that I apologize.

    I guess I was using your post for a semi-related rant against how some on the left – those bold defenders of gay rights – sink to the gutter when discussing the Bachmanns.

    Nobody knows anything at all about their sex life, or the state of their marriage. Therefore it should not be a topic of discussion, especially when there is so much other low hanging fruit where Michelle Bachmann is concerned.

  121. 121
    Mandalay says:

    @kindness:

    We are mocking Bachmann by talking about her so. Especially since she is such a sainted christian lady type, the hypocrisy makes the mock all the more delicious.

    What exactly is the hypocrisy? What exactly is it that you know to be true which makes her a hypocrite?

  122. 122
    Maude says:

    @Mandalay:
    #120, I am very uncomfortable with anyone mentioning anything about people’s private lives like that. It’s none of our business.

  123. 123
    Mandalay says:

    I am very uncomfortable with anyone mentioning anything about people’s private lives like that. It’s none of our business.

    Right. There seems to be an massive double standard for gay tolerance on the left. Seeing John Heilemann giggling like a school boy after he called Lindsay Graham a girl was pathetic:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/1.....of-re-air/

    And here’s Roland Martin:
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.co.....glaad.html

    WTF is wrong with these people?

  124. 124
    West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.) says:

    @Patricia Kayden: I wonder about the voters of Minnesota’s Bachmann district, too. Is there something in the water that makes voters dumb? How can Minnesota give us Minnesota Public Radio and Garrison Keillor AND Michelle Bachmann? I’ve never been to the state, but it sounds like it’s got quite a blue/red divide goin’ on.

  125. 125
    West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.) says:

    @peach flavored shampoo: You know, Pat Robertson just recently admitted that the universe is not 6,000 years old, and just when I have the teeniest bit of hope that he might crawl out of the darkness towards something vaguely resembling enlightenment, he says something like this. (Okay, so I had no real hope whatsoever that Robertson was going to stop being a total putz, but wow.)

  126. 126
    J. Michael Neal says:

    @trollhattan: Does this mean I have to watch the America’s Cup?@West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.): Forget about it, West. It’s St. Cloud.

  127. 127
    West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.) says:

    @Another Halocene Human: Light classical music? I picture more something along the lines of Englebert Humperdink or Andy Williams.

  128. 128
    West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.) says:

    @Raven: Maybe dildo(e)s are like potatoes… someone get Dan Quayle on the line.

  129. 129
    sharl says:

    @J. Michael Neal: It looks like a number of folks far more knowledgeable than me provided some promising avenues for your browser problems. But as a regular Firefox user, I’ll note one thing I’ve encountered at work, is that it appears* that Microsoft Outlook somehow corrupts my PC on occasion, as primarily exhibited by my FF browser suddenly becoming sluggish and halting in its responsiveness. [It’s usually after I’ve had OUTLOOK open over two or more days, so yeah, my behavior can likely be implicated in causing this problem.]

    *Note that the “correlation does not equal causation” precaution applies here. However, when I see that FF has gone sluggish, and I go to restart my PC (running Win-7 OS with MSOffice-2007 and the latest version of FF), I’ve noticed on a number (=?) of occasions that the ‘OUTLOOK.exe’ app is still running even after I’ve quit OUTLOOK. At least once or twice I’ve been able to get FF to behave by manually terminating OUTLOOK.exe {in Windows Task Manager, going to ‘Process’ tab, highlighting OUTLOOK.exe and clicking on ‘End Process’}, then if necessary, restarting OUTLOOK.

    FYI, the use of OUTLOOK for e-mail is mandated From On High; ’tis not my choice. [Shuffles off, sadly mourning long-ago mandated parting from Eudora…]

  130. 130
    g says:

    He prohibited her husband, Dr. Marcus Bachmann, from sleeping in the same room with wife while on the campaign trail

    TMI

  131. 131
    kindness says:

    @sharl: Our work uses Lotus Notes. It’s an IBM product and thankfully does not mess with FF. They would prefer us to use IE but I have always hated all versions of IE for reasons I don’t quite understand.

  132. 132
    Doug Galt says:

    @The Ancient Randonneur:

    Screamin’ Jay is the man.

  133. 133
    Bill Arnold says:

    @sharl: @J. Michael Neal:
    Hm. If it’s Windows XP, you may want to look at the “GDI objects” in the Task Manager (sort largest to smallest), and stop one of the tasks near the top (that is safe to stop).

  134. 134
    barbequebob says:

    @Raven:

    Popping out of a coffin was Screamin Jay’s usual way to start a concert. Saw him open for the Stones in 1981 at MSG. The coffin was carried out by a groups of pallbearers and then out he popped.

  135. 135
    sharl says:

    @sharl: Just had a “system seizure” where FF first seized up, then OUTLOOK went to “Not Responding” status (per Windows Task Manager), then MSIE crashed. Somewhere in there, the Adobe Flash Plug-In stopped working.

    Don’t know what came first and/or started this cascade of fail – could be two web-based apps both using the Flash Plug-In simultaneously (?) – but thought I’d add this Info McNugget, since it just happened.

    Don’t know if it helps JMN any (I’m guessing ‘Not’), but if nothing else, it serves to illustrate there’s more than one way to mess up a browser. {/Capt. Obvious}

  136. 136
    nemesis says:

    O’Donnell forced Marcus in the arms of another. And another. And another.

    Additionally, it was learned that O’Donnell prohibited Marcus (campaign code name: Lumberjack) from donning high heels, suspenders and a bra.

    Hopefully, there are federal monies available for Marcus to tap that can aid in his rehabilitation and recovery.

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