BCS Championship Open Thread

Made a big batch of turkey chili and settling in to root against Notre Dame.


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    mathguy says:

    Rooting for both teams to lose. Impossible, yes, but one can hope….

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    Just Some Fuckhead says:

    meatballs with rotini in mushroom sauce with lots of cheese.

    no turkey. i can’t tolerate it anyway except right off the turkey.

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    electricgrendel says:

    At home in Alabama watching the game with my dad, eating chili, drinking beer and hoping for a win!

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    Raven says:

    Need the Tide to win big so the Dawgs keep moving up. It hurts a great deal to have been so close but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.

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    Rammer jammer! Yellowhammer! Give ’em hell, Ala-bammer!

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    Linnaeus says:

    Can’t say I’m cheering for either team.

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    dr. bloor says:

    @mathguy: Two words: Meteor strike.

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    Wally - SU '76 says:

    A hold your nose cheer for the Irish. Too much SEC snobbery here in Florida.

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    We made a white turkey chili last night as an experiment. It was a good change up from our standard chili. Gonna keep it in the rotation.

    Notre Dame fans are insufferable.

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    Jim C. says:

    I can’t figure out which team I want to lose more so I’m going to go sulk and pout about the unfairness of Boise State not being in one of the big conferences.

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    Raven says:

    I found the recipe for Cuban Garlic Chicken from the Versailles in LA. It’s a sour orange marinade that makes it unique.

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    Keith says:

    @dr. bloor: May it strike down Lee Corso.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @dr. bloor: Kraken attack?

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    John O says:

    It’s easier for me to work up fatigue and disdain for AL these days. So, just a little grudgingly since they’ve been pretty absent for a quarter century, go Irish.

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    bleh says:

    @mathguy: Verily. A pox on both their houses.

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    Alexandra says:

    Don’t do sports. But since it’s an open thread:

    ‘Gun Appreciation Day’ Is Jan. 19, Conservative Groups Declare’

    Obama’s Inauguration Day.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Alexandra: Coincidence, right?

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    rikyrah says:

    rooting against Notre Dame..LOL

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    Maude says:

    I read the Jan Scruggs post. I will be following the blog.
    He said it so well.

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    Dee Loralei says:

    Asteroid. But if I have to pick, Notre Dame. I hate both teams, but the SEC and Nick Saban more.

    My moms Bday today so I made broiled scollops with an orange peel and fennel seed crust on top of a spinach salad with oranges and fennel and an orange and tarragon dressing. Main course was crab cakes with a romesco sauce. Served with a Pinot Grigio and I made a chocolate mousse pie for dessert.

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    agorabum says:

    Nick Saban is one of the most joyless coaches in college football. When he won the last championship with ‘bama, the sourpuss look on his face when he got hit with gatorade was enough to make me not want him to win again.
    Irish may be insufferable of old, but they’ve been down in the dumps long enough to root for them here. Especially against Saban and the SEC. The Irish just haven’t been worth enough to hate in the new millennia.
    C’mon America. Let’s root against Alabama. It’s not hard to do.

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    Raven says:

    @Maude: Cool, I posted a pic of me and the boys at the wall and then deleted it.

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    Scott says:


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    Raven says:

    Two fucking yards.

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    Linnaeus says:


    I was gonna link that too. There’s also a longer article that Zirin links in his most recent piece that goes into a lot more detail about Lizzy Seeburg and others. It’s frightening.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Betty Cracker: For thee and Bnut, I say Roll Tide. That and can’t in good conscience root for the Papists.

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    Joel says:

    Never gave two shits (good or bad) about Notre Dame, myself.

    But then again, that probably applies to all of college football.

    The only game that I’ve ever been sucked into was the Boise State victory in the Fiesta Bowl.

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    Jim C. says:


    If Notre Dame wasn’t a Catholic institution this would be so much easier to figure out who to root against.

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    JPL says:

    Well since I can’t stream the game, I am just going to bed and read. bah humbug or something.

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    Paddy says:


    Notre Dame fans are insufferable.

    Imagine being smack dab in the middle of Irish country (Michiana) with all of them. Can’t turn on a teevee or go to a store without being bombarded.

    Big pot of mustard greens with scads of garlic, mebbe a pork chop on the side, but just the mustard greens make me happy.

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    The Dangerman says:

    I can’t root for an SEC team, which is too bad, as I expect the SEC team to crush the non-SEC team (I see this as a remake of Bambi vs Godzilla; hope I’m wrong).

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    Raven says:

    @Paddy: Your handle is Paddy and you don’t like the Irish. That’s like Gomer not. . .

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    Spaghetti Lee says:

    Rooting for ND all the way. What everyone thinks ND is, the SEC in general and Nick Saban’s Bama teams in particular actually are: smug, self-absorbed, and generally insufferable. Someone needs to usurp the SEC’s college football monarchy and drop a turd in that Ratface Saban’s punchbowl. I’d rather it be a Big 10 team, but I’d love to see ND do it as well.

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    Raven says:

    “They get those big back on our safety’s and we’re in trouble”. He’s a better coach than I thought he was.

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    @Paddy: Mmmmmmmm garlicky mustard greens in the shadow of touchdown Jeebus’ upraised arms.
    My condolences for your choice of residence.

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    Predictions? 35-9 ‘Bama.

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    JPL says:

    What are the odds of RGIII playing again? The reports are confusing because 4 weeks ago the mri’s were conclusive and now they are concerned about old injuries… hmmm

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    Raven says:

    Uh huh.

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    salsify says:

    Conflicted. If you have ever visited, the ND campus is not a place of diversity except for the sport teams’ members and the servers at the various cafes and gift stores. And, the self adoration is palpable. But love the Manti Te’o story. Bama…can’t abide the SEC yet in my mind’s eye I still see Bear Bryant from games long ago and I kinda smile.

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    Raven says:

    @salsify: I was at his last game.

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    Pooh says:

    The cointoss will prove to be the highlight of the night for ND

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    Spaghetti Lee says:

    There are a lot of ND haters out there and I guess I understand why, in an abstract sort of way. (I’m too young to remember ND football ever being any good.) But I also think all the familiar ND complaints apply to Bama. Too much media hype? Yeah, like no ESPN jocko has ever slurped about “THAT SEC SPEED” or all the TRADITION in Tuscaloosa. The fans’ obsessive regional/ethnic identity? Somehow, even after turning at least half its schools into merciless football machines, it seems to me like the SEC still suckers a lot of people with that “we’re just humble Southern guys” stuff, like it’s still 1924 and a southern school beating the northern football ‘establishment’ is some sort of shocking upset. Every complaint about ND’s media/fanbase crap goes double for Alabama, especially in the Saban era. Go Irish.

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    Raven says:

    Like takin candy from a baby.

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    Linnaeus says:

    Defense is supposed to be ND’s strength. Gonna be a long night for them if this keeps up.

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    Raven says:

    @Spaghetti Lee: Any self-respecting Big Ten fan should hate Notre Dame.

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    Pooh says:

    @Spaghetti Lee: Except that SEC teams are actually good at football, and ND hasn’t been forever with no diminution in the entitlement complex of their fanbase.

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    Raven says:

    @Linnaeus: Shit, all this Teo bullshit, he’s not as good as Jarvis Jones and our defense, overall, is way better. They ran through us like crap through a tin horn.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    Well that did not take very long.

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    Linnaeus says:


    Any self-respecting Big Ten fan should hate Notre Dame.

    Yep. I’ve got a longer history of cheering against Notre Dame than I do against SEC schools, to be completely honest.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    By the way, is it just me, or does Lou Holtz look and sound more and more like a leprechaun each year?

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    ET says:

    ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Linnaeus says:


    Agreed. My boys lost to ND, but helped them out greatly with 6 turnovers.

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    I suppose that I should Broder up my previous statement and note that Alabama fans are pretty insufferable themselves. You have the dude poisoning the trees at Auburn and the Alabama Teabagger leading the way. http://deadspin.com/troll-tide/

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    Spaghetti Lee says:


    I’m not exactly an ND fan, but I despise the SEC so much more that it’s not really a conflict for me.

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    Raven says:

    @Linnaeus: They deserve to be there but they just are not that good.

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    Raven says:

    @Spaghetti Lee: You wouldn’t despise it if you lived down here.

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    Face says:

    Ive seen abortions that looked better than this Irish offense.

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    Spaghetti Lee says:


    It’s weird to see the word ‘teabagger’ used in the original, non-political sense.


    Well, my Mizzou Tigers are supposedly a part of the SEC family now (deal with the devil, that one: yeah, more TV exposure, the exposure being of us going 2-6 in conference every year and never playing in any post-Christmas bowl game again. BRILLIANT IDEA!), and if anything, it’s intensified my hate.

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    Linnaeus says:

    Huge break for Bama there.

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    The Dangerman says:

    Did the Bama cheerleaders visit the Ref’s Locker Room prior to the game? That call was brutal. At least the juggling ball was arguable.

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    dexwood says:

    Having a neat Irish whiskey at the moment. It in no way should be interpreted as a team endorsement. I didn’t know a game was on until I got here.

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    @Spaghetti Lee: I know. I wonder if the Alabama Teabagger is watching his beloved Crimson Tide from the confines of jail this evening.

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    Todd says:


    C’mon America. Let’s root against Alabama. It’s not hard to do.

    So hard for me to properly prioritize my hate here.

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    Raven says:

    The call on the punt was correct. Fuck moosburger.

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    Raven says:

    @Spaghetti Lee: At least you won’t be thumping my Illini every year.

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    RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    I had eggplant fries with parmesan and marinara sauce as an appetizer with dinner. Do bars come up with all the best Americanized versions on European food? This was brilliant.
    And the prettiest damn bartender in the whole state of Connecticut. Half my age and just a doll.
    I may get home to MI this week. More likely I’ll get jetted somewhere even colder and less familiar on some obscure errand.
    No football on my schedule. I’ve been up since 3:00 am & hitting the sack.

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    Todd says:

    It will be a blowout.

    Could it be that the voting and polling that props up ND is all bullshit? ;D

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    Comrade Jake says:

    Somewhere Mike Golic is crying in his old jersey.

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    Punchy says:

    Its like a NFL team against a HS team. Quickest “game over” call Ive ever made..

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    Raven says:

    @Punchy: Georgia will have as many as nine defensive players drafted and they ran over us just like this.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    It’s almost like the ND defense consists of lots of sideline prayers that the Alabama players will trip and fall over their own feet.

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    Co-worker of mine is at this game rooting for ND.

    She’s gotta be bummed.

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    The Dangerman says:


    The call on the punt was correct.

    I dunno; I saw a block in the back, let alone who hit the player.

    I figured this game wouldn’t last much longer than the coin flip. This could get really ugly.

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    JPL says:

    so anyway to stream online???

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    Raven says:

    @The Dangerman: The supervisor of officials was on. There does not have to be contact.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Comrade Jake:

    By the way, is it just me, or does Lou Holtz look and sound more and more like a leprechaun each year?

    I’ll buy “looks.” But “sounds”? Never a chance. The draawwllll and the speech impediment are both getting worse as he ages, which is typical in many people.

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    Todd says:

    That was a struggle. The oddsmakers appear to have been over optimistic for ND.

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    Punchy says:

    @Raven: Dont get me wrong, I hate both teams. But the smug righteousness that ND fans carry around makes me want them to get pounded. Nick Saban will be knighted, given keys to Tuscy, and blown by every cheerleader if he wins this…

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    Raven says:

    He’s down

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    Comrade Jake says:

    @efgoldman: Right. I’m just wondering how unintelligible he can get before ESPN pulls the plug.

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    Todd says:

    Shit, what else is on? This is a fucking snore, BCS.

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    Raven says:

    @Punchy: I’m only saying that Alabama is far superior.

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    JPL says:

    @Raven: only for cable subscribers and uverse is not listed. I say uverse cuz my son sometimes gives me his app..

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    Violet says:

    Just checked out the score. What’s happened to Notre Dame?

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    Pooh says:



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    Todd says:

    There’s a gift.

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    Raven says:

    @JPL: Yea, I see that now. Sorry.

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    The Dangerman says:


    There does not have to be contact.

    OK, but there was an active block (in the back no less), so I’m still saying bad call.

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    Seems like the refs are rooting against Notre Dame too.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    @Violet: They’re getting steamrolled, basically, on both sides of the ball.

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    Raven says:

    @Violet: What was always going to happen. Both Bama lines are so much better than ND it’s not even funny.

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    Punchy says:

    @Raven: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay superior. Agreed

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    Raven says:

    If it was a fight they’d stop it.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    Fairly creepee there by Brent.

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @JPL: Daniel Snyder needs to get his ass kicked for that piss poor condition of the field.
    Looks like old Municipal Stadium in Cleveland. Anyway as much I can’t stand Alabama, I hate Notre Dame worse, I am hardly sick of those who push ND in my face and if you don’t cheer them you might as well cheer for Al Qaida. I want Alabama to kick the Irish ass so bad that Mike Golic cries like a little girl, I want a Confederate Battle Flag above the Golden Dome, ok maybe that is a little much, but that how I feel. One more thing AJ McCarron’s girlfriend is HAWT!!!

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    Dork2013 says:

    ND got 1 first down. So theres that. Progress or something.

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    JPL says:

    @Raven: odd that they don’t have uverse..

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    JPL says:

    @Raven: odd that they don’t have uverse..

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    J. Michael Neal says:

    It’s bad enough that Notre Dame is in the national title game but I deeply resent rooting for them. And if I’m going to root for them, I even more deeply resent them getting crushed.

    Same thing’s going to happen to their hockey team tomorrow.

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    Raven says:

    @JPL: They don’t have Charter on their iPad app either. It’s goofy.

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    Raven says:

    This is like Georgia Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl. All that Haka shit was about as valuable as the Irish Jig.

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    Belafon (formerly anonevent) says:

    @Alexandra: May they all fire straight up into the air.

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    Punchy says:

    Good thing ND has a other-wordly defense. Or so I was told. Maybe the ND LB will change his name to Manti T’D

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    efgoldman says:

    Fucking SEC
    Hate them the way I hate the Yankees and Les Canadiens.

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    RareSanity says:

    Man…where is that hellacious Notre Dame defense I’ve been hearing about all freaking year?

    Never mind, that’s a trick question, they never actually had that. LOL

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    Raven says:

    @RareSanity: Hey mon!

    Two fucking yards!

    How bout them Jackets takin it to Tommy Trojan!

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    some guy says:

    SEC Football

    taste it, mofos

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    @Mr Stagger Lee: McCarron’s girlfriend also went to Auburn. I wonder if their families disowned them?

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    RareSanity says:


    What’s up Raven? I knew you’d be in here. LOL

    I didn’t even think it would get this ugly tonight. I knew ND would lose…but not like this.

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    The Dangerman says:

    I hope ND fans at the game took ample beer money, or snuck in the hard stuff; anything approximating sobriety is no way to go through this game.

    ETA: I been there; SC/UCLA, 2003 or 4, I forget, and it was over by the end of the first quarter. I’m not sure the Rose Bowl had enough beer for that crowd.

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    Raven says:

    I love seeing Notre Dame fans wearing stupid ass costumes!!!!!

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    Should’ve been Stanford or Oregon.

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    eclare says:

    I went to TN but I always cheer for the family. Now if only a meteor could take out Brent…..Roll Tide!

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    RareSanity says:


    How bout them Jackets takin it to Tommy Trojan!


    Not even that can make look favorably upon Paul Johnson. I’m glad they won, but I’ve had it with that guy.

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    cintibud says:

    I’m starting to recall an old Bill Cosby story when his pathetic Temple team played a then powerful Buffalo

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    Steeplejack says:

    Can we all agree to hate Brent Musburger?

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    Yutsano says:

    @Betty Cracker: Maybe it’s me, but I don’t think AJ is all that hot. Then again I have my own biases.

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    Raven says:

    @RareSanity: I just didn’t think there was any way they could match up. I mean we have a pretty good defense and they mauled us on the ground. And as for the Irish offense, nebah hoppin GI.

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    Linnaeus says:

    @Bob In Portland:

    Should’ve been Stanford or Oregon.

    Well, Stanford should have beaten Notre Dame. And Oregon should have beaten Stanford.

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @Betty Cracker: Have you seen the ESPN Documentary Roll Tide/War Eagle? That is one of the best sports documentary I have seen, I would like to hear one of those radio shows in Alabama. Man that is some serious hate down there.

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    Raven says:

    @Bob In Portland: Shoulda been the DAWGS!!!

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    Yutsano says:

    @Steeplejack: Seconded.

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    RareSanity says:

    ND better be careful here, this is where the bad starts happening. You start trying to force the issue and make poor decisions.

    They let ‘Bama have another short field because of a turnover, it’s lights out.

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    JPL says:

    my son is giving a play by play and I guess n.d. got a first down.. nice

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    Comrade Jake says:

    I knew God was upset with the Catholics, just not quite this much.

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    RareSanity says:


    USC had the same let down UGA had in that Liberty Bowl a few years ago.

    They were pissed off they weren’t playing in a bigger bowl game and just phoned it in.

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    Raven says:

    @Mr Stagger Lee: We were driving back from the beach the Monday after the Bama-Auburn game and listened most of the way. It was actually pretty tame because Auburn is soooo bad. My boss has to buy me lunch this week for the 9th time in 10 years. Auburn fans are strange, the place is a shit hole but they love it.

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    Raven says:

    @RareSanity: Speaking of that game, did you see some of the catches Chris Durham had for the Lions?

    Plus, Kiffin is a fucking moron.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    Chuck Todd’s take:

    About only reason to stay watching this game is to see if Brent makes a career-ending comment about McCarron’s girlfriend

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    pseudonymous in nc says:

    Somewhere in Tuscaloosa, an academic department is looking at its budget, looking at Nick Saban’s salary, and weeping. Again.

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    JPL says:

    My son is giving a play by play and when I said I felt bad for notre dame, his response was
    dont feel bad for them!………………………………
    if we had a playoff sysstem then they would have been let down much sooner……………………………………
    and not had to endure such a championship ass kicking

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    Raven says:

    @JPL: I’m pretty sure it’s on 680.

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    RareSanity says:


    Yeah…dude is awesome.

    Just as solid as he was between the hedges. He may not be flashy, but damn if he don’t have super glue painted on his hands.

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    Raven says:

    @RareSanity: I just remember him crying like a baby after that Liberty Bowl. I said earlier, I was at that bowl for the Bear’s last game when Jeremiah Castille Sr willed Bama over the Illini.

    eta I’m not being critical of Chris, he wanted to win badly.

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    Eric says:

    As a Washington fan it pains me to say this, but should have been Oregon, Notre Dame is the luckiest undefeated team I can remember, should have 2 or 3 losses, they shouldn’t be top 5, let alone #1

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    Moonbatting Average says:

    @Eric: As an Oregon fan, I appreciate that. Shoulda been Duck U.

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    Eric says:


    Stanford did beat ND, they got hosed on pass interference to set up NDs TD let alone the Taylor TD

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    Punchy says:

    ND QB rattled and too inexperienced. Runs OB a yard from 1st down marker. Cant win with punts, yo

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    Anya says:

    @Comrade Jake: It must be because of all the abortions and birth control pills catholic women are using. I blame Obama.

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    The Dangerman says:


    …Notre Dame is the luckiest undefeated team I can remember…

    UCLA deserves a thank you for knocking Barkeley out; with MB, I think SC beats ND in LA (Senior Day, knocking off #1, etc.)

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    Linnaeus says:


    Agreed, but what we think doesn’t go into the record books.

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    Lead pipe says:

    @The Dangerman: Maybe McCarron’s girlfreind did.

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    Eric says:

    @Moonbatting Average:

    If Thomas had simply turned around to block on Mariotta’s long run they would have been there. Total bone head play, there is no reason to run side by side with a guy into the end zone, look for someone to block

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    Eric U. says:

    @Comrade Jake: never understood why they keep Mussberger around anyway. I wonder if that slobbering comment might be problematic for him given his lack of talent.

    This game is a travesty, as time goes on the reasons to have a playoff system become more and more obvious

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    Raven says:

    You left-coasters are delusional. Oregon is fast compared to who they play. The top level SEC teams have every bit as much speed and they are bigger.

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    RareSanity says:

    Good grief…

    Why am I getting the feeling that a safety, pick-six, or fumble recovered for touchdown is about to happen?

    I want the game to at least be competitive…this is just lame.

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    efgoldman says:


    Temple team played a then powerful Buffalo

    It was Temple vs Hofstra.

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    Moonbatting Average says:

    “If” is sometimes the longest word in the English language. Ah well, maybe we both make it into the NCAA basketball tournament?

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    JPL says:

    Espn is streaming but on radio..

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    raven says:

    @efgoldman: Georgia played Buffalo this year.

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    efgoldman says:


    Can we all agree to hate Brent Musburger?

    Well we could, and do. But Raven doesn’t like it when we bitch about announcers.

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    raven says:

    @efgoldman: He’s not an announcer he’s a fossil.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Raven: The team speed of Oregon is simply undeniable. I saw a white weakside LB who has to run a flat 4.4 40yd in full pads. The guys on special teams for Oregon swarm everything.
    Bama may, may, have better overall athletes but there is simply no way to escape that Oregon has around 40 people who run 4.4 or better.

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    @JPL: Smart youngling you got there.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Somebody needs to educate that ND QB during halftime.

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    raven says:

    @Corner Stone: I didn’t deny it did I. I just said the top level SEC teams are on par and bigger,

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    RareSanity says:


    I woulda thought they learned that against Auburn…PAC-12 fans…it’s not about your starters, it’s the depth.

    The teams in the SEC are so good because they have NFL talent two levels deep. When a substitute comes in, he’s just as good as the guy he’s replacing, there’s no drop off. They just beat teams up and wear them down.

    The offensive and defensive lines of those “fast-break” offenses out West, are just too small. The offense dictates that they be smaller and more “mobile”. They’re worn out by the middle of the 3rd quarter. The SEC lineman are just as fast as the PAC-12 linemen, but they’re bigger, stronger, and they’re two deep at every position.

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    Punchy says:

    Bama not even trying anymore

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    raven says:

    The last time they played an SEC team

    2011/09/03 Oregon 27 – LSU 40

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    Comrade Jake says:

    Didn’t a couple of SEC teams lose fairly convincingly this bowl season?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @raven: C’mon. You know better.

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    efgoldman says:


    He’s not an announcer he’s a fossil.

    And I’ve been bitching about him for as long as I remember football threads on this blog (before 2008, at least).
    As somebody who did major market radio (never sports, alas) for 20 years, I find him personally embarrassing.

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    raven says:

    @RareSanity: Well, they get to the championship game so seldom it’s easy to forget. Sort of reminds me of the Vick Hokie team against FSU in the National Championship. Tech could sorta keep up for a while but FSU was way too deep.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Not that I was invited or anything, but I would not eat turkey chili.

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    @JPL: thank you. No more Mooseburger tonight.

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    raven says:

    @efgoldman: I’ve been bitching about him a lot longer than that!

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    mainmati says:

    ND is getting killed in the 1st half. No chance they will win. They may not even score at all. I don’t like either team.

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    eclare says:

    This is showing my age, but in college I had to put up with the team of Lesley Visser and Brent. It’s 25 years later, and I still have to put up with his ass. He just stopped talking about Notre Dame’s missed tackles. I’m shocked!

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    @Mr Stagger Lee: Never saw it, but it sounds good. I’ve got dozens of cousins in AL, mostly ‘Bama fans but with a few Auburn people. It is a serious hate indeed.

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    Todd says:

    I’m actually getting drowsy.


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    RareSanity says:

    @Comrade Jake:

    Up to now, conference bowl standings:

    SEC: 5 – 3 (about to be 6-3)

    ACC: 4 – 2

    Pac-12: 4 – 4

    B1G Ten: 2 – 5

    Big Twelve: 4 – 5

    Big East: 3 – 2

    Mountain West: 1 – 4

    Mid-American: 2 – 5

    C-USA: 4 – 1

    Western Athletic: 2 – 0

    Independent: 1 – 1

    Sun Belt: 2 – 3

    The two SEC loses were Florida losing to Louisville 33-23 and Miss St. losing to Northwestern 34-20. Upsets for sure. The only embarrassment was Miss St, Louisville has a helluva team.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Bru. Tal.

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    efgoldman says:


    I’ve been bitching about him a lot longer than that!

    Oh, me too. But that’s as long as I remember doing it here.

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    raven says:

    This is a DVR game from here. I’ll catch it at 5am. Peace out.

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    Moonbatting Average says:

    So was Lacy crossing himself genuine, or was he trolling Notre Dame?

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    Seanly says:

    @Comrade Jake:

    Yes, my Clemson Tigers beat LSU. We came from behind to win on a last minute kick. I wouldn’t call it a convincing win though they were favored by 7.

    I’m rooting for Alabama if for no other reason than to hear the lamentations of Brent Musberger. He’s a terrible, terrible announcer and may be a worse fanboi for Notre Dame then Dick Vitale is for Duke.

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    Cassidy says:

    Yup, that’s one overrated SEC team.

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    raven says:

    @RareSanity: See ya round, don’t be too scarce.

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    eclare says:

    The commentary is awful, AL is not Pitt.

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    raven says:

    @Seanly: See you, in September. . .

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    RareSanity says:


    Oops…I forgot LSU losing to Clemson 25-24.

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    gene108 says:

    Notre Dame is so totally outclassed it is painful to watch this game.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Betty Cracker: I feel out of place. I’ve never even BEEN to Alabammy!

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    efgoldman says:

    New thread time?

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    RareSanity says:


    Guess it’s time for some PS3. LOL

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    @eclare: Right there with you.

    And there’s the half.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    Someone once defined an atheist as someone who can watch a game between Notre Dame & Southern Methodist & not care who wins.

    They were wrong. That’s the definition of an agnostic. An atheist would be calling for the meteor.

    Poisonally I root against any entity associated with the One Holy Catholic & Apostolic Church, arguably the most sordid, corrupt, mendacious & inhumane institution to slouch & slither more or less intact into the third millennium of the Common Era. To the extent that they get their genuflecting arses handed to them, I say bully!

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    danielx says:

    Looking like Notre Dame has only two chances left, slim and none…and naturally Slim is out of town, along with Touchdown Jesus.

    On the other hand both teams have more than their share of hypocritical suckage, so who gives a shit?

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    Did I say 35-9 ‘Bama? I meant 49-3.

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    Cacti says:

    Notre Dame vs. Alabama is a root for injuries matchup for me.

    As for the game itself, this looks like the biggest title game mismatch since the 1996 Fiesta Bowl.

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    Steeplejack says:

    Credit the N.D. coach for not sugar-coating things in his leaving-the-field interview snippet. Shorter: “We suck.”

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    Yutsano says:

    @Betty Cracker: I’m thinking even at this point the 3 is being a bit generous. ND better do some massive adjusting at halftime or this is pretty much ovah.

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    efgoldman says:


    This is showing my age, but in college I had to put up with the team of Lesley Visser and Brent.

    Hell, I remember when Visser was one of the first women (maybe the first?) to work for the Globe sports section.
    Brent is so far over the hill, he’s halfway up the next one.

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    Todd says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    Count me in with Yutsano. The 3 is pushing it.

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    Cacti says:

    And before anyone says Alabama could beat an NFL team…

    Nick Saban had trouble beating NFL teams when he coached an NFL team.

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    Cassidy says:

    If only there were a group of people, a group of fans maybe, who said this was going to happen. But I imagine those people would have been dismissed as arrogant fans who only knows what ESPN tells them. If only…

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    Comrade Jake says:


    ND better do some massive adjusting at halftime or this is pretty much ovah.

    Short of swapping out their entire squad with Oklahoma’s, not sure there’s much they can do.

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    Comrade Bob says:

    Applebee’s chicken is pretty tasty.

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    Cassidy says:

    Well Bob, Notre Dame needs to come out in the second half and score and run and pass and defend better.

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    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q) says:

    @Yutsano: I thought it was ovah half an hour ago, but what do I know? I’ll be quite surprised to be proven wrong in this case though.

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    Moonbatting Average says:

    @Comrade Jake: You mean TAMU’s squad, right?

    (pains me to say it, as a Texas fan)

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    JPL says:

    @Cacti: With this team?

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    Todd says:


    Lighten up, Francis. Bama is just selling ESPN and the BCS rope to hang themselves with with. Destruction of ND was a necessary precursor…

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    Yutsano says:

    @Cassidy: U kan haz analyst job naow?

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    Jager says:


    A million years ago when I was in rock and roll radio we called guys like him “Pukers”

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    The Dangerman says:


    Count me in with Yutsano. The 3 is pushing it.

    I’m there, too; short a Pick 6 or a safety, it’s a shutout.

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    Todd says:


    Well Bob, Notre Dame needs to come out in the second half and score and run and pass and defend better.

    Shit, you’re ready for a six figure salary plus wardrobe allowance as a smiling sports commentator.

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    eclare says:

    @Steeplejack: Yes, when asked what would help, he said something like AL not showing up for the second half.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Todd: Don Cherry suits and ties. I shall demand nothing less from our dear Cassidy. Not to mention what his kids will say. :)

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    Cassidy says:

    @Todd: The best thing about this is another reason to force a playoff system.

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    Oltrol says:

    That was some Hellacious chili you made Cole!

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    efgoldman says:


    Don Cherry suits and ties.

    After his yapping about the lockout yesterday, his next fashion accessory should be sequined, flower-patterned duct tape.

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    scav says:

    OT, I don’t think SP&T has been posting enough, the site seems to think I’d be interested in xian dating — even lost the simultaneously PETA and gun loving ad niche. Do we need to organize a flash expletive thread and reset the google or something? I’d almost rather the three-armed (or was it treble-breasted?) woman.

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    Comrade Jake says:

    @Moonbatting Average: Yes, thank you. I get my redneck schools confused sometimes.

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    danielx says:

    Got a name that ought to branded on Brian Kelly’s and the ever-so-reverend Fr. John Jenkins’ asses…Lizzy Seeberg.

    Reap what you sow, motherfuckers.

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    Cassidy says:

    @efgoldman: I don’t think I said anything about the lockout. Hell, I didn’t even know hockey was a professional sport. ;)

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    eclare says:


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    Haydnseek says:

    @Corner Stone: @Corner Stone: Wouldn’t that be overkill? He’s been getting schooled for the whole game……

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    JPL says:

    Gotta say Notre Dame is moving the ball.
    also, too.. NEVERMIND

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    Oh well it was good while it lasted for the Irish.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Mr Stagger Lee: A bunch of good Catholic boys in South Beach? Those per thangs!

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Haydnseek: True. But he doesn’t seem to be learning.

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    Haydnseek says:

    @Corner Stone: LOL!

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    efgoldman says:


    I don’t think I said anything about the lockout.

    No, but @Yutsano: mentioned Don Cherry. I done replied to him.

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    Spaghetti Lee says:

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    Atheists actively root for the violent deaths of non-atheists? News to me.

    I personally think people who need to vicariously live out their political/religious hang-ups through football need help, but whatever: If you’ve gotta do that, is rooting for Alabama really the more progressive, secular option? There’s one state of those two that has the Ten Commandments on the courthouse floor, and it ain’t Indiana.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Bama seems bored of this now.

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    Todd says:

    Is Honey Boo Boo on? It might be more interesting.

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    Ben Cisco says:

    And yet again, BOOM!

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    Yutsano says:

    @efgoldman: Did he give Bettman a nice sloppy suck job? He seems just douchey enough to do that.

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    Fluke bucket says:

    My God boys. Have some damn pride at least.

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    The Dangerman says:

    So, will Bama pull starters before they drop 49+ on the Irish?

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    Joel says:

    Celtics beat the Knicks tonight. Good game, lots of feistiness.

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    efgoldman says:


    Did he give Bettman a nice sloppy suck job?

    Dunno’. I heard about it third hand. On a blog, of course.

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    Haydnseek says:

    @Todd: Slap a gold helmet on her. Maybe she can make a tackle…….

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    Yutsano says:

    @Haydnseek: Her mother certainly could. Wow.

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    Punchy says:

    Good to see ND was ranked #1 before this game. Certainly the best team in college football 3 hours ago.

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    Belafon (formerly anonevent) says:

    So, another reason to hate Notre Dame. This ESPN article, describes the playoff/bowl system being planned for 2015. In the middle is this:

    In the upcoming college football playoff, the top four teams — as determined by the selection committee — will meet in the semifinals. After those four teams are selected, the league champion or top available team from the Pac-12 and Big Ten will play in the Rose Bowl, SEC and Big 12 teams in the Sugar Bowl and ACC in the Orange Bowl.

    The ACC’s Orange Bowl opponent will be the highest-ranked team of either Notre Dame, an SEC team not in the national semifinals or the Sugar Bowl or a Big Ten team not in the semifinals or the Rose Bowl. However, in the years the Rose and Sugar bowls host the national semifinals, the BCS commissioners have agreed that the Big Ten or SEC champion will not be placed in the Orange Bowl, sources said. Instead it will be placed in one of the three other access bowls, which will be part of the national semifinal rotation.

    Also, the highest-rated champion from the Group of Five conferences (Big East, Conference USA, Mid-American, Mountain West and Sun Belt) will earn a berth in one of the six major bowls but will never be eligible for the Sugar or Rose bowls.

    Could someone explain Notre Dames explicit name in the rules?

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    Corner Stone says:

    Where’s the talent on ND?

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    A question from the cheap seats, are there any African Americans in Alabama, other than the football team? You wouldn’t know that watching the broadcast

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    efgoldman says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    Could someone explain Notre Dames explicit name in the rules?


    ETA: There was a similar provision in the first basic BCS agreements, wherein 60-something schools basically declared themselves the Kings of Collitch F’bawl, to the specific disadvantage and exclusion of everybody else. Thus the term “BCS buster.”

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    Moonbatting Average says:

    Looks like Notre Dame is trying to SNAP defeat from the jaws of defeat


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    Yutsano says:

    @efgoldman: Gelt, even.

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    Punchy says:

    That roughing the QB call had to be the most phantom bullshit call Ive ever seen. Good lord the refs will do anything to keep Irish eyes on the broadcast

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    Corner Stone says:

    TD ND. Now we’ve got a ballgame!

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    Linnaeus says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    That’s the benefit they get by not being in a conference.

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    Elizabelle says:

    A mercy touchdown.

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    Yutsano says:


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    The Dangerman says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    Could someone explain Notre Dames explicit name in the rules?

    Along with the Franklins, it’s also because ND doesn’t get the conference tie-ins to the bowls (I can’t think of another Independent that’s worth a damn).

    ETA: Or what Linnaeus said.

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    Face says:

    @Mr Stagger Lee: pretty sure they were last seen fleeing the state in 1865-ish. Absolutley no reason to go back, natch

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    Ben Cisco says:

    @Mr Stagger Lee: My folks are old, my brother’s on the road.

    Also, the crowd is rather large…

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    Yutsano says:

    @Ben Cisco: There’s a few. I’ve spoken to some of them. I’d much rather deal with them than the crackers down there I tell you what. Every one has been really decent folk.

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    hueyplong says:

    Karl Rove just said, “I don’t know what the outcome is gonna be, but you shouldn’t, you gotta be careful about calling things when you’ve got only something like 991 points separating the two teams and a quarter of the game left to be played,” he said. “Even if they had made it on the basis of select precincts, I’d be very cautious about intruding in this process.”

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    RareSanity says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    Well, let’s get money out of the way. The secondary reason is that they don’t have a conference affiliation in football.

    They just joined the ACC for all sports…except football.

    As you can see, they don’t need a conference, all they have to do is not suck and they have a chance to play in the most lucrative bowls games every year. Plus they don’t have to share the money with anyone else.

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    Haydnseek says:

    @Ben Cisco: Ya know, those aren’t half bad song lyrics…

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    Ben Cisco says:

    @Yutsano: Know how you feel, and thanks for that.

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    gene108 says:


    Well, Notre Dame to its credit has a rabid enough fan base to have an exclusive deal with NBC to broadcast their football games and make it worth while for NBC.

    Until the NBC deal goes belly up, Notre Dame will never need to join a conference in football.

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    OT, I don’t think SP&T has been posting enough….

    I’ll splash some boobs across the front page later in the week and see if that helps…

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    Ash Can says:

    What a boring game. Northwestern vs. MS St. was definitely the highlight for our household (M-80’s a Northwestern grad, and I didn’t go to any US football schools myself).

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    RareSanity says:



    I never said that they weren’t capable of going solo…obviously they are.

    What I don’t like is the constant felicitating, and preferential treatment they receive because of their fan base, by people that are supposed to be judging them based on their performance on the field.

    Doesn’t so much apply this year, because they did go undefeated. But almost every year of the past 10-15 years has just been ridiculous.

    Brent Musburger is really horrible. Also, too.

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    The Dangerman says:

    Apparently, Ms. Alabama is good (no doubt) for Mr. McCarron’s ability to throw the ball.

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    Ben Cisco says:

    @Haydnseek: Spent half my childhood in the Heart of Dixie, the influence seeps in sometimes. :)

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    RareSanity says:

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall:

    They always garner my attention…that’s for sure.

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    Face says:

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: It will. I await. Will they be yours?

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    “Will they be yours?”

    We want to reset the ads, not break the entire blog.

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    scav says:

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: My udder gratitude.

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    pseudonymous in nc says:

    @Mr Stagger Lee:

    are there any African Americans in Alabama, other than the football team? You wouldn’t know that watching the broadcast

    82% white institution in a 69% white state. Yeah, that’s the south for you.

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    Jamey says:

    @Spaghetti Lee: Dame and that whole “Catholics vs. convicts” thing would like to have a word with your screed.

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    Odie Hugh Manatee says:

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall:

    Boobs are good. Moobs? Not so much.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @Spaghetti Lee:

    Atheists actively root for the violent deaths of non-atheists? News to me.

    Need a refresher course in Hyperbole For Effect? In fact I root for what I always used to root for in Redskins-Cowboys (& currently in Stealers-Pats) games: a double forfeit. “The meteor” is just a euphemism for same.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    Damn, what’s the beef between the ‘Bama center and QB? And Saban is the biggest goddamn wet blanket in college FB. Minutes away from winning a another championship, and he’s stalking the sideline in a tizzy. He’s a bigger asshole than Spurrier. That said, Roll Tide!

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    Eric U. says:

    that was a nice display of class for Alabama both on and off the field.

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    Evolving Deep Southerner says:

    Christ. I didn’t get to see any of this game until the second half. Damn. I think I just saw the best part – and the highlight for all the shows – which will be the line-of-scrimmage tiff and the kiss-and-make-up afterwards. At this point, everyone has forgotten that Notre Dame is on the field.

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    Chuck says:


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    dead existentialist says:

    Where’s your Pope now, Norte Dame?

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    Bnut says:

    Guess I’m closing out this thread. ROLL TIDE!!!!! +1 bottle of bourbon

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    Yutsano says:


    ROLL TIDE!!!!! +1 bottle of bourbon

    Lightweight. :)

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    Bnut says:

    @Yutsano: Plus a shot of the Kraken to open the game and halftime, and 2 glasses of champagne after. The liver has been bad and must be punished. Much like ND’s defense.

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    scav says:

    @Yutsano: but consider the size of a bottle of bourbon big enough to be warped by the gravitational pull of the moon. . .

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    Yutsano says:


    Plus a shot of the Kraken

    You had me until the rum. Never have been able to stand that stuff although my palate may have matured some.

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    ET says:


    (deep breath)

    Today is going to be a GOOD day.

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