Open Thread: That’s SENATOR Warren to You, Dear

In the midst of the turmoil, let us take a moment to gloat. Glen Johnson at the Boston Globe:

When Elizabeth Warren was sworn in today as a US senator, it was not only the culmination of an election campaign she launched in September 2011, but also the completion of a political turnabout started the previous May.

In May 2011, 44 Republican senators signed a letter to President Obama, vowing to block his nominee to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau without changes to the consumer watchdog agency created by the Dodd-Frank financial regulatory act…

“This is about accountability,” said a statement issued on May 5, 2011, by [Alabama Senator Richard] Shelby, the top Republican on the Senate Banking Committee….

…[W]hen today’s festivities conclude and the work of the 113th Congress begins, Warren will take a seat alongside Shelby not just in the Senate chamber, but as a member of the Senate Banking Committee.


Apart from hoping that ‘Shakedown’ Shelby chokes on his own tongue, what’s on the agenda for this evening?

182 replies
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    aimai says:

    I couldn’t be prouder of my new Senator. I really expect great things from her. And they must be as horrified as Strom Thurmond was by Carol Mosely Braun. Warren is one tough cookie and if Shelby tries singing “Dixie” to her in the elevator I think she’ll kick him the balls.


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    Violet says:

    I just looooove that Reid gave Warren a spot on the Banking Committee.

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    gene108 says:

    As the old Obi-wan Kenobi saw goes, “strike me down and I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine”

    Hahahahahahahahaha @ Shelby.

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    SFAW says:

    The best (?) part is that she’ll be the senior Senator from MA in a few months.

    Well, “best” if the junior Senator has a “D” after his/her name.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    Richard Shelby is human sewage that needs to be flushed.

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    Forum Transmitted Disease says:

    I just looooove that Reid gave Warren a spot on the Banking Committee.

    @Violet: One of the things I like about Reid is that he’s more than willing to rub someone’s face in their own shit if it’s called for. Which this was.

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    Richard Shelby is Jesse Helms without the charm.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    AL, it’s Glen Johnson. Not Glenn.

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    Violet says:

    @Forum Transmitted Disease: Yep. I’ve developed a huge amount of respect for Harry Reid. He comes across as a milquetoast, but he’s tough. Like a few days ago, when everyone was focused on the fiscal cliff and what the House would do, he pushed through a bunch of nominations that had been held up in the Senate. Here’s a GOS diary about it, with a video of Lawrence O’Donnell talking about it. Transcript of some of that:

    “Harry Reid, who every day does much more than most people in the news media realize, and definitely accomplishes much more than the news media ever reports, pushed through pages and pages of nominations for President Obama yesterday when everyone was focused on what the House would do on the fiscal cliff vote. And Harry Reid did that with the active but invisible help of Mitch McConnell who did his part to make sure that no Republicans would vote against any of those nominations. And what did the United States Senate do today, that dysfunctional United States Senate? According to the news media, absolutely nothing.”

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    Corner Stone says:

    what’s on the agenda for this evening?

    I plan to slip the word “Django” into really inappropriate spots in otherwise normal conversation.

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    arguingwithsignposts says:

    Since this is an open thread, I have suggested before that we have a trollopedia, where we could find distinguishing characteristics of the various troll fauna that seem to pop up here (wrong again Cole, UNLIMITED VICTORY CASH!, the pedo, etc.). Now, I’m thinking a better way to mock them would be to come up with some game of Troll Bingo. I don’t know how the rules would work, but that’s a new idea I’m putting out there.

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    👽 Martin says:

    @Forum Transmitted Disease:

    One of the things I like about Reid is that he’s more than willing to rub someone’s face in their own shit if it’s called for. Which this was.

    Well, let’s be honest here. There’s few more qualified people in this nation to sit on that committee than she is, including every single person sitting on the committee currently.

    Rubbing people’s faces in it might have helped the decision, but the decision should have been clear regardless of that.

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    Brachiator says:

    Just a little bit of the confusion that might have been unleashed had some of the fiscal cliff mess not been settled (from tax and accounting sites):

    The IRS released withholding tables in IR-2012-105 and Notice 1036 (December 31, 2012). However, those withholding tables are based on the now obsolete tax rates, revised in the recent tax legislation. We understand the IRS will review the tables and update them. The notice does contain correct information on the return to the 6.2% rate for FICA.

    Oh, well.

    @Corner Stone:

    I plan to slip the word “Django” into really inappropriate spots in otherwise normal conversation.

    Just got an image in my head of Warren Unchained.

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    Maude says:

    I like the way you think.

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    ding dong says:

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha to every dumbass signer of that pledge.

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    Steeplejack says:

    On the agenda?

    Had one of those flat, what’s-the-point days that hit us all occasionally, but then the UPS guy just now delivered the new 24" monitor that will allow me to get my desktop computer up and running again. Yee-haw.

    Thinking about celebrating with Thai takeout, then it’ll be a quiet evening with the housecat, possibly culminating in the Oregon-Kansas State game, if it’s any good. Otherwise new episodes of Person of Interest and Elementary (I wanted to hate it, but it’s winning me over, damn it) and hours of other stuff clogging the DVR.

    And yay, Senator Warren!

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    beltane says:

    @arguingwithsignposts: A new troll appeared today who is obviously an old troll (the wrong again Cole subspecies of troll)but I can’t think of its original name. Some sort of Linnaean taxonomy of trolls is in order.

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    WereBear says:

    Pie filter for Chrome works for me, troll wise. I really loved having that available to me… alas, since I’m on a CHROMEBOOK 90% of the time, I cannot shift browser gears.

    I do, however, ignore them, because they will just say something else infuriating… ’tis pointless.

    In other news, we got a new health plan at my place of employment, and it has a $500 deductable… after which, everything is covered 100%. I was so pleased to inform my young, apolitical co-workers, that this gloriousness was because of President Obama.

    I call it Obamacare. Because he does.

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    KG says:

    @Violet: one the one hand, I am not a fan of giving people credit for doing what they were supposed to do. on the other hand, the fact that the Senate has been a runny shitshow the last four years makes this rather impressive.

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    Violet says:

    @KG: Watching Harry Reid on that video just read page after page of the nominations/confirmations is kind of amazing. I know it’s what they are supposed to do, but the Senate is beyond dysfunctional and it’s kind of amazing to see it happened.

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    Rex Everything says:

    Ms Warren is sort of the embodiment of why I’m hopeful about national politics right now. Shelby looks more like an anachronism each day.

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    Trooptrap Tripetrope says:

    I’m looking forward to voting for Warren for President.

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    Roger Moore says:


    I’ve developed a huge amount of respect for Harry Reid. He comes across as a milquetoast, but he’s tough.

    I think he’s gotten a bad reputation because he’s been working within very confining Senate rules that have made it a lot tougher to get anything passed. Reid deserves some blame for not doing more to eliminate the filibuster, but within that constraint, he’s been a very tough fighter. He knows the rules and how to use them.

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    gogol's wife says:


    I wanted to hate Elementary too, since Sherlock is so good, so I haven’t even seen it yet. It’s good, really? Jonny Lee Miller is a good actor, I know.

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    General Stuck says:

    From our Cabbage Patch TeaTard Doll Division

    “We now have 85 members of the House who have shunned their noses at us,” said Dustin Stockton, a Texas- and Nevada-based operative and the chief strategist of The Tea “Our job now is to recruit and inspire and motivate people to run against those Republicans who did it.”

    Attica!! Attica!! Attica!!

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    Baud says:

    Speaking of the Senate, McConnell said today that the GOP would not raise the debt limit until — get this — the Democrats put forward a plan to reduce the deficit solely through non-defense spending cuts.

    Profiles in courage.

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    “This is about accountability”

    WTF would today’s GOP know about ‘accountability’?

    That said, ‘Senator Warren’ does have a rather nice ring to it. I was definitely in the ‘snowball’s chance in hell’ camp when she started out. (And, believe it or not, it was the obvious enthusiasm of AL and so many other BJers here that convinced me that my first impression might have been wrong– which it clearly was, praise the Cosmos).

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    Rex Everything says:

    @Trooptrap Tripetrope: A big Hell Yes to that.

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    gogol's wife says:

    @General Stuck:

    “shunned their noses”?

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    Hill Dweller says:

    I’m thrilled Warren became a Senator and now sits on the Banking Committee, but let’s not forget about Richard Cordray, who is doing a great job running the CFPB.

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    scav says:

    @KG: One does rather expect tennis at Wimbledon, but there’s still room for appreciation of a good backhand or a well placed serve, even (especially?) when the other side of the net is sashaying about playing Calvinball and blue-ribbon blue-faced pouting relays.

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    MattR says:

    @Violet: Unfortuantely, I think Reid’s reaction to the O’Donnell piece was “Shut up. McConnell isn’t gonna be able to help get this done in the future if the mouth breathers find out about it.”

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    Corner Stone says:


    possibly culminating in the Oregon-Kansas State game, if it’s any good

    I can’t wait to watch Oregon run like scared deer, all over the damn place.
    May be my fav bowl game of this extendedly shitty bowl blitz of a season.
    At least, I hope so anyway.

    The NC game is bound to be a snooze fest. My prediction 9-6 or 12-6 for Bama.

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    Baud says:

    Obama also nominated 33 new judges today (some or all of which were previously filibustered). I think we’ll see more activity on that front this term.

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    beltane says:

    @General Stuck: I am intrigued by the “shunned their noses” thing. Can anyone show us how this is done?

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    General Stuck says:

    @gogol’s wife:

    LOL, I missed that. Poor dears seem to be a bit on the emo side and it’s affecting their literacy, which was nothing to brag about to begin with.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Hill Dweller:

    I’m thrilled Warren became a Senator and now sits on the Banking Committee, but let’s not forget about Richard Cordray, who is doing a great job running the CFPB.

    When will you let it go that Obama didn’t fight to install Warren at the CFPB? I’m just tired of your firebagging bullshit nonsense.

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    sharl says:

    @beltane: That could be one of several trolls, including the creature once known as ‘Fred’, then ‘Derf’, followed by several other nyms after each banning. In its early days, its use of the creepy phrase ‘little furry groupie’ in response to its critics (e.g.) was a positive identifier, but it later ditched that. I was absurdly fascinated with that creature, because I could never figure out what it got out of being here.

    And no, it is/was not Tim/T&H/etc., since on the Obot-Firebagger scale, the former is/was much closer to the Obot end of that continuum.

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    Sly says:

    It was Jesse Helms who sang Dixie to Braun in that elevator, if memory serves. It was after Braun led the effort to deny an extension of the Federal patent on the logo of the United Daughters of the Confederacy.

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    gogol's wife says:



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    Laertes says:

    @General Stuck:

    Good heavens. Did this clown really say “shunned their noses?”

    I hope, if worse comes to worse, that instead of flaunting the rules they’ll tow the line.

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    gogol's wife says:


    They have a tough road to hoe.

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    On the agenda for this evening was settling down in front of the computer with a glass of wine and following the reports on The Fogbow from Orly Taitz’s latest failure of a hearing from California. Unfortunately the deluge of traffic to the site has crashed it so I am wandering around the intertubes trying to find the refugee page. It is frustrating to say the least.

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    MattR says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Have you seen this link yet?

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    Machine-Gun Preacher (formerly Ben Franklin) says:

    You be the judge….elaborate hoax or?

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    gogol's wife says:

    A friend just alerted me to the new senator from Hawaii:

    “The new senator from Hawaii may come from a laid-back state, but he’s not very chill when it comes to climate change. Brian Schatz (D), the former lieutenant governor, said this week that climate change will top his legislative agenda as he joins the Senate as a replacement for the late Sen. Daniel Inouye (D).” Sounds good.

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    vheidi says:

    I hate Marketplace- they’re playing the “sad” music because the Dow lost …
    20 points.

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    Phylllis says:

    @jeffreyw: We had navy bean soup and cornbread. Yours looks pretty yummy.

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    vheidi says:

    @WereBear: how do you like the chromebook? My pos Acer netbook won’t boot

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    “Apart from hoping that ‘Shakedown’ Shelby chokes on his own tongue, what’s on the agenda for this evening“

    I’d say that’d be a tough agenda item to top, but then after reading that The Turtlenator is exhorting the Dem-held senate to come up with the draconian cost cuts that will prove highly unpopular (to stave off the Republican-led charge to blow up the economy in order to save it) so the Republicans can campaign on “oh, those Medicare cuts didn’t originate from US,” I wouldn’t mind if McConnell choked on Shelby’s tongue, as well.

    Elsewise, it’s mah birfday (49 years and now officially In The Shadow Of Fifty), which means I’ll go home, nap, pick up the Mrs. from work, and then Photoshop till I fall asleep. In other words, another typical night with the Pantloads (of the non-Doughy type, that is).

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    Yeah I have that one open as well as Doc Conspiracy’s site open too. We have a Fogbow member boots on the ground reporting from the court room so I am giddy with excitement waiting for updates.

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    dr. bloor says:

    @KG: Try running a marathon with an overgrown, oppositional two-year old chained to your ankle, and you’ve got an idea of what Reid must feel like when he’s actually trying to govern. I don’t know how the man suppresses the urge to slip an AK47 into the Senate chambers.

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    Hill Dweller says:

    @Corner Stone: It ain’t easy out here for a ‘bagger.

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    dr. bloor says:

    @vheidi: In the perfect Hell, Kai Ryssdal will be granted wisdom and insight, and then be forced to spend eternity listening to reruns of his shows.

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    scav says:

    @dr. bloor:

    I don’t know how the man suppresses the urge to slip an AK47 into the Senate Chambers.

    pleasure would be over too soon?

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    KG says:

    don’t get me wrong, I appreciate what Reid has managed to do, and with a sense of decorum that I probably wouldn’t have been able to replicate. It just still amazes me that the party of “my country right or wrong” and “country first” and all the other bullshit would have a slow motion four year long freak out like this.

    I’m still inclined to give them Texas and maybe a couple of neighboring states not named Louisiana (sorry, we get to keep New Orleans), if they’ll agree to leave the rest of us alone.

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    MattR says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Looks like Fogbow is back up. Hve not poked around to get an update on today’s shenanigans.

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    burnspbesq says:


    A little context, s’il vous plait? What is this hearing about? It surely can’t be a State Bar disciplinary hearing, more’s the pity, as I would know about that through lawgeek blogs.

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    @MattR: Fogbow back up, TRO denied, order to follow, testy judge apparently, I can’t wait for the boots on the ground report.

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    MattR says:

    @burnspbesq: Grinois v Electoral College. (EDIT: This link has a decent summary of the case.) This hearing was for a TRO to prevent California from certifying the votes that they certified last week and I believe to enjoin Congress from counting the votes.

    @Litlebritdifrnt: I am not a member of Fogbow so will have to wait til the BOTG details leak over to other sites, like Doc C’s.

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    Orly filed a lawsuit asking for a Temporary Restraining Order to stop the Electoral College voting for the Kenyan Indonesian Usurperer in Chief. There was a hearing today.

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    karen marie says:

    @Baud: I only wish a journalist would ask him where his plan is.

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    Baud says:



    Tell me there wasn’t suspense about the outcome.

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    La Caterina (Mrs. Johannes) says:

    @jeffreyw: thread no longer needz moar kittehs!

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    burnspbesq says:

    Federal court? Can we hope that the judge will smite her with the two-by-four of Rule 11 sanctions?

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    Haydnseek says:

    @gogol’s wife: Beat me to it…..

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    Baud says:

    @karen marie:

    But such a question wouldn’t suggest that Obama is to blame. You see the dilemma journalists have.

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    ETA she subpoenaed the entire world, including all the members of congress to come and testify. It was hilarious.

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    MattR says:


    Tell me there wasn’t suspense about the outcome.

    The only suspense in the outcome was if the TRO would be denied, the entire case dismissed and possibly sanctions issued against Taitz. There was also some suspense about Tatiz’s performance.

    @La Caterina (Mrs. Johannes):

    thread no longer needz moar kittehs!

    Not that moar kittehs would be a bad thing.

    @Litlebritdifrnt: And she did fun things like sue the President in a personal capacity but then serve him via the US Attorney’s office. Though my favorite is her asking her readers for help figure out case law

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    karen marie says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: What’s it about? Did she ever pay that $10,000 fine?

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    @karen marie:
    Same bullshit that she has been filing (and losing) for 4 years. Yeah she paid it, either out of her own pocket or she sucked it out of her Flying Monkey’s gullible pockets.

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    Rex Everything says:

    @gogol’s wife: It begs the question, how will they get enervated enough to hone in on the penultimate goal?

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    I worry that if she ever gets that service thing figured out she could be mildly dangerous but seeing as she won’t I feel better. :)

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    MINUTES (Text Only) for proceedings held before Chief Judge Morrison C. England, Jr.: After hearing argument from counsel the Court denied Plaintiffs’ Motion for Temporary Restraining Order 12 . A formal, written order will be issued shortly and will be the controlling ruling on Plaintiffs’ Motion. Plaintiffs’ Counsel present: Orly Taitz. Defendants’ Counsel present: Edward Olsen and George Waters. Court Reporter: Kelly O’Halloran. Interpreter none present. (Deutsch, S) (Entered: 01/03/2013)

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    dr. bloor says:


    There was also some suspense about Tatiz’s performance.

    Sometimes I wish the judges would try to switch things up and have a little fun with her.

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    MattR says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: That’s kinda how I feel about birthers in general. They are an odious group of people, but they are so incomptent and cluelessly wrong that I find them a source of amusement.

    BTW – there is a comment on the main Fogbow thread indicating there is an update on the BOTG thread (if you are a member and have access)

    EDIT: I can see the update on the Fogbow BOTG thread.

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    Machine-Gun Preacher (formerly Ben Franklin) says:

    Oh, them cukes…….

    Genital baldness? So? What’s the problem?

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    scav says:

    Please, Please, share details on any snippyness of the judge. When some of them get going . . .

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    MattR says:

    @Machine-Gun Preacher (formerly Ben Franklin): The chafing. Or maybe the bed wetting

    EDIT: Sadly, it took until the final line before I realized it was satire.

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    Corner Stone says:


    (sorry, we get to keep New Orleans

    This comment tells me you’ve probably never been there except for when you were blazingly shitfaced drunk as an underage teen and have no idea what’s actually there.

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    Violet says:

    @Machine-Gun Preacher (formerly Ben Franklin): Saves money on waxing! What’s the problem with that?

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    Hee Hee

    She argued with the Judge each time he denied her witnesses.

    O:But I flew them in at great expense…
    J:Ma’am, as I wrote (in an email? an order? not sure) last night, no witnesses allowed.
    J:I told you last night.

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    the Conster says:

    On my agenda tonight is what’s been on my agenda for the past few days – marathon sessions of Breaking Bad to get caught up for the last season ever. Holy shit what a show. What does it say about me that the only shows I’ve ever actually loved are The Wire and Breaking Bad? Both make Homeland look like Dick van Dyke show reruns.

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    Machine-Gun Preacher (formerly Ben Franklin) says:


    I hadn’t thought of that. It’s a feature, not a bug.

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    sharl says:

    @Machine-Gun Preacher (formerly Ben Franklin): That’s hilarious – and immediately credible on its surface, given Monsanto’s past behavior – but is apparently a spoof article by “Canada’s answer to ‘The Onion’.”

    Might have been of interest to the porn industry, had it been true…

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    A little more

    The Judge was very well versed on this case…and all of Orly’s others. He let her know that. He stated that each side would get 20 minutes…”but first, I have a few questions”. BOTG says the questions and answers made it clear where he was headed.

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    WereBear says:

    @vheidi: I ADORE my Chromebook.

    Light enough to carry in my bag every day, 6 hours of battery life, responsive keyboard and trackpad.

    As long as I have a WiFi signal, I can do blog, stream video, have 20 tabs open. If I don’t have WiFi, I can still do email and write.

    But I have WiFi at home, three stories down to my porch in summer (it was -21 last night, so that’s out at the moment) at the work cafeteria on my lunch hour, and at all 3 of my favorite restaurants.

    It’s turned out to be not a problem.

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    Cassidy says:

    Fuck the NRA. Fuck the little paid hack who’s been dropping by. Fuck condescending pile of shit “artist” who couldn’t think his way out of a science room. Fuck all these people who’s been pissing me off the last few days.

    Good things do happen and this makes me smile.

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @the Conster: We sorta marathoned (over the course of 3 – 4 weeks) all the previous seasons of BB to get caught up before the new shows that aired this last summer. Seems the Mrs.’s coworkers shamed her into making the commitment to do so.

    All that awesome in a relatively short period of time kinda made it worth not having seen any of the eps, before.

    “Holy shit what a show”

    Yep. We don’t even call it “Breaking Bad,” we call it just that, “Holy Shit!”, because we’re almost guaranteed to say that at some point in each ep.

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    Roger Moore says:


    Interpreter none present.

    No wonder the judge wasn’t buying any of Orly’s arguments.

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    WereBear says:

    @Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn: I have heard such accolades… at some point I will be watching it. Now that we have Hulu Plus and Amazon Prime (Christmas presents, both) I will have a lot more variety on tap.

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    lamh35 says:

    Obama First Since Eisenhower to Win 51% of Vote Twice

    A revised vote count eight weeks after the presidential election finds President Obama nationally won 65.9 million votes — or 51.1% of the vote — against challenger Mitt Romney, who took 60.9 million votes and 47.2% of the total, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
    Obama is the first president to achieve that level of support in two elections since President Dwight D. Eisenhower was re-elected in 1956.

    Oh and of course Romney’s percent of the vote: 47%%% BWHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @WereBear: The show gets cuaght up in excesses here and there (as did my all-time fave drama, St. Elsewhere), but it’s still wildly entertaining.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Corrected, thanks!

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    scav says:

    @Roger Moore: You noticed too!

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    JWL says:

    God grant that Warren possesses a mean streak.

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    Hilarious this was just posted on Free Republic

    To: SvenMagnussen
    realist at posted …

    MINUTES (Text Only) for proceedings held before Chief Judge Morrison C. England, Jr.: After hearing argument from counsel the Court denied Plaintiffs’ Motion for Temporary Restraining Order 12 . A formal, written order will be issued shortly and will be the controlling ruling on Plaintiffs’ Motion. Plaintiffs’ Counsel present: Orly Taitz. Defendants’ Counsel present: Edward Olsen and George Waters. Court Reporter: Kelly O’Halloran. Interpreter none present. (Deutsch, S) (Entered: 01/03/2013)

    3 posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:36:54 PM by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
    [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

    Quickly followed by

    This thread has been pulled.
    Pulled on 01/03/2013 4:43:35 PM PST by Admin Moderator, reason:
    No thanks.

    They can’t handle the truth!

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    vheidi says:

    @WereBear: most interested in keyboard action, thanks for replying. Yes, Wi-Fi access not much of a prob now (except for -20!)

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @Darkrose: Thanx! I’m practicing yelling at clouds, as I’m given to understand it will become a bit of a pasttime for me before long…

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn: Do you have an onion for your belt? Happy b-day.

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    General Stuck says:

    In Other News From Planet Wingnut

    Jen Rubin

    The question remains whether, after two failed attempts and much bad blood spilled, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) will insist on the same fruitless one-on-one meetings with the president. Frankly, it would be far more productive to meet, if he insists on meeting with the White House, with Vice President Biden.

    That’s right. We will only deal with the white guy who is second in command.

    As the stupid turns.

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    Evolving Deep Southerner says:

    @beltane: Fred, a.k.a. Derf.

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    vheidi says:

    @Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn: speaking from experience, it’s kids you’ll be yelling at- clouds you gaze at dreamily…
    Happy birthday!

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Cassidy: I, for one, had hoped you’d drown in that piss pool you fucking fascist piece of shit.

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    Roger Moore says:


    I’m just imagining Barbara Billingsley standing up and saying, “Oh, Judge! I speak wing nut.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @General Stuck: yep. I’m sure Biden doesn’t have a way to communicate with the president. They aren’t even on speaking terms I hear.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn: If you morph into the clone of Grandpa Wanuts I shall never forgive thee.

    And Happy B-Day. And stuff.

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    Cassidy says:

    @Corner Stone: Of course you did you little ball of ignorant sunshine. Why don’t you go back to furiously masturbating to lynchings you bigoted pile of shit.

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    kay says:

    @General Stuck:

    She should turn her pundit card in. She is bad at politics.
    I was in Fulton County OH today and the Republicans were talking about the Romney campaign. They said Romney OH staffers were rude and patronizing to the locals. It was particularly amusing because there is one woman who is a local GOP power broker. She was pissed.

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @General Stuck: Actually, don’t knock it.

    A) Biden’s been getting shit done, including in working with the Congress (to the extent that it’s possible, these days). I’m sure he has Obama’s full faith in dealing with these loons.

    B) Obama’s time is too important to deal directly with said loons one minute longer than necessary.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Corner Stone:

    You mean you aren’t on tenterhooks for the Kent State-Arkansas State matchup in the GoDaddy Bowl Sunday night?! Good God, man.

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @Yutsano: Thanks!

    Gotta love how, uh, vital and diverse this board is. Well wishes and kitteh pix posted amid the Joe-Pesci-level flame wars.
    =o )

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Cassidy: Ha! You sick little monkey.
    Not only do you insist on stalking a commenter here you disagree with, and making clearly unfounded allegations, you’re on record as not only wanting to commit physical violence against me but to make sure you did it in front of my kids. So you could collectively punish them and teach them the lesson of something something argle bargle.
    Go fuck yourself you fascist joke clownshoe.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @General Stuck:

    That’s right. We will only deal with the white guy who is second in command

    Rubin’s feeling nostalgic for the Cheney Regency.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Steeplejack: Anything with GoDaddy attached to it just reeks of class. So, yes. That’s a must have in my book.

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    General Stuck says:

    @Suffern ACE:

    You can’t really blame her, Rubin confusing the current dem party and her republican party. A republican party filled with palace intrigue, double dealing, and half baked power plays. What they can’t conceive is Biden damn near worships the ground Obama walks on, and the feeling seems mutual between them.

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    sharl says:

    @kay: Kay, if you’re comfortable doing so, would you be willing to offer a recommendation of the Ohio Democratic Party – or other OH-based advocacy organizations (political or social/health/economic/education/enfranchisement-oriented) – as entities that are worthy of financial support?

    While I agree with the general point made by Cole last night, I agree more with some of the commenters that more effort is needed to support state and local initiatives, as a longer term investment. In looking at swing states, the FL Dems seem too eff’d up at the moment, but maybe OH, PA, MI, and WI (and even TX) would be more promising.

    I’m not forgetting 2014, but I think we need to build beyond that, especially up through the 2020 election which will determine how the next redistricting goes.

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    Violet says:


    I was in Fulton County OH today and the Republicans were talking about the Romney campaign. They said Romney OH staffers were rude and patronizing to the locals. It was particularly amusing because there is one woman who is a local GOP power broker. She was pissed.

    Excellent. I hope you can find a spare minute to post a bit about it. Hearing how the Romney campaign insulted GOPers in Ohio would be an excellent read.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn:

    Happy Birthday, SP,teuu! Welcome to, ah, maturity. Yeah, that’s it.

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    Cassidy says:

    @Corner Stone: I never denied it and would do it right now you cowardly bigot. Joyfully with great enthusiasm.

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    Hey, y’all see this? Maggie Gallagher terminated her syndicated column. Score another victory for the gay agenda.

  129. 129
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Why do my Facebook “friends” post two-year-old news articles and flag them breathlessly as “breaking news”? Why is that?

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    kay says:


    I can. Progress Ohio. Google it because I cant get off the couch. I could but I wont.
    They run these grass roits trainings and candidate schools that are great. There is one this month. Progress Ohio Progressive Ohio along those lines. If yiu cant find it email me.

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    sharl says:

    Great! Thanks.

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Because if it’s on the Internet, that by default means it’s Breaking, brand new, totes fresh, never-before-seen-by-human-eyes News. I mean, c’mon — it’s the INTERNET. Duh-doi.

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    trollhattan says:

    Also, too, I suspect Reid really did/does have the goods on Mitten’s tax returns.

  134. 134
    Violet says:

    @trollhattan: Yep. Mittens panicked. A sure tell.

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    @General Stuck: Yeah, fuck that noise.

    Fuck Jen Rubin, NeoConfederate ante(cere)bellum ignoramus.

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    @General Stuck: Yeah, fuck that noise.

    Fuck Jen Rubin, NeoConfederate ante(cere)bellum ignoramus.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Cassidy: It’s interesting you stalk a commenter here who has flaunted your norms and also gleefully said you’d commit violence against another commenter who you’ll never meet.
    Oh, wait, that’s not interesting at all. It’s a pattern of pathological sickness.
    You are one sick fuck.

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:


    Yep. Mittens panicked. A sure tell.


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    kay says:


    Thats all I got. The Romney people were rude to Sandy Barber, who was the county recorder and is married to a judge. Sandy strikes fear in tge hearts of local Republicans. Shes like 6 feet tall and ruthless. I wouldnt piss her off, but apparently “Boston” did.
    I was appropriately sympathetic :)

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    Cassidy says:

    @Corner Stone: You are projecting your own inadequacy and cherry picking. Go fuck yourself.

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    Maude says:

    Un friending is your friend.

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    Violet says:

    @Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn: He took a couple of days to respond to the allegations, then refused to release his tax returns. Smelled like panic to me. Lots of behind the scenes trying to figure out what to do.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Cassidy: Or, more appropriately, naming you for exactly who you are and what you have said and done here.
    Find a time when I’ve threatened anyone with physical violence.
    You have gleefully bought in to reinforce some really sick and twisted shit in just this thread.
    Or, as some might say, doubled down on stupid. But I’m pretty sure that isn’t enough to accurately describe you, you sick, twisted, fucking fascist piece of shit.

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    Violet says:

    @kay: Ha, that’s funny. Romney’s campaign was like a lesson in how not to run a campaign.

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @Violet: Ah. I hadn’t caught that at the time.

    But I knew Reid is no off-the-cuff nut, nor the type to accuse the guy of being a pigpoker solely to hear him deny he’s a pigpoker.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant):

    ante(cere)bellum ignoramus

    You may consider this officially stoled Emissary.

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    liberal says:

    @Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn:

    The Turtlenator is exhorting the Dem-held senate to come up with the draconian cost cuts that will prove highly unpopular

    Jesus Christ, this “and furthermore you’ll do our dirty work for us” shit is getting to be a bit much.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Romney’s percent of the vote: 47%%%

    I love that SO HARD

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    [Funny – I originally tried to post this using a euphemism towards the end, only to wind up in moderation purgatory, so I’ll try again without holding back]:

    @Violet: Ah. I hadn’t caught that at the time.

    But I knew Reid is no off-the-cuff nut, nor the type to accuse the guy of being a pig fucker solely to hear him deny he’s a pig fucker.

    [And, yes, FYWP.]

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    liberal says:


    Can we hope that the judge will smite her with the two-by-four of Rule 11 sanctions?

    No, the only person entitled to smite anyone with a 2×4 is Megan McCardle.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Corner Stone:

    You two go settle your differences behind the barn. We don’t need this shit in here. FWIW, CS, you are being the bigger douchebag.

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    WereBear says:

    @vheidi: Anytime. I had an old, beloved, aluminum Powerbook killed by the baby kitteh when his head hit a glass of wine while I was drinking it. (Husband’s reaction? You shoulda been drinking scotch!)

    I couldn’t afford a Mac Air. I could barely afford another used Mac laptop. I could afford a netbook or a Chromebook. I think I made the better bargain. I have the lightness and battery life of a Mac Air at the price of a netbook.

    Best of both worlds.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Do you have an onion for your belt?

    Jaysus, that’s straight out of Prufrock.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @burnspbesq: Well, lord high ESQ, thank you for your comment.
    I duly appreciate you deigning to chime in.
    I’m the db because I never stalked someone, never made false allegations with no proof (something you demonstratively HATE), and never threatened physical violence?
    That makes me the bad guy?
    Thanks BBQ.

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    Cassidy says:

    @Corner Stone: Been drinking again huh? Shouldn’t you be a little more controlled? You don’t want the little children around you to realize you’re a douchebag and have a substance abuse problem do you?

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    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    @WereBear: Yeah, my Sony Vaio’s creeping into it’s fourth year in actually pretty decent shape, save for some cracks along the screen housing and some keys that don’t work (also thanks to a wine spill), but I know I won’t be able to afford a straight-out replacement when it gives up the ghost. All I’ll need is for Photoshop Elements to become a subscription-based net app (which I suspect is in the works), and I’ll be set getting a more modestly priced Chromebook.

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    Cassidy says:

    Someone needs to learn some self control. Liquid courage only lasts as long as your liver allows.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Maude: Not worth it in this case. Just seemed a bit, well, anachronistic.

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    Yutsano says:

    @burnspbesq: Never roll in the mud with a pig. Everyone gets dirty and the pig likes it.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Cassidy: I’m pretty sure when they interview your little girls the day after they’ll have no problems describing all the problems daddy had with his life and how he used rage to communicate exactly how sad and disappointed he was with himself and his family.

  162. 162
    Cassidy says:

    @Yutsano: You are absolutely right and I shouldn’t have allowed myself to get baited.

    Corner Stone, whatever demons you feel the need to drown, I wish you good luck and hopefully you can find some peace before you end with all the really bad health problems that comes from alcohol abuse. Call a hotline, a 12 step, or whatever it takes. That’s an ugly way to die. I might think you’re kind of worthless, but I’m sure you have some people who would miss you. I’ll go back to pretending you don’t exist now.

    I feel sorry for you. I feel this absurd level of pity for you that you feel you have to do that to yourself. Get some help.

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    kay says:


    I thought it was interesting that they would tell me. They usually tell me how GREAT things are going :)
    Sandy usually wont speak to me. She diesn’t like Democrats. My husband used to be a prosecutor, and when he quit and went to the other side she told me “I used to LIKE Paul, when he wore a WHITE HAT”. He just laughed when I told him.
    She’s a force to be reckoned with :)

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    Machine-Gun Preacher (formerly Ben Franklin) says:


    Wise words, Yut; wise words, indeed.

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    IowaOldLady says:

    I spent a fair amount of time today trying to download an audio book from my library and put it on my Ipod Mini. I succeeded but I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to do it again. That should not have been as hard as it turned out to be.

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    Sly says:

    @General Stuck:
    The only role Biden played was to give political cover to McConnell so they could pass the agreement with only six Republicans voting no, which would in turn give ammunition to Boehner to go to his caucus and say “This isn’t such a bad deal… look, it got overwhelming Republican support in the Senate.” Then he could suspend the Hastert rule and let a sufficient number of wingnuts vote against it to maintain their Breitbart Cred while still holding off any mass defection on the vote for Speaker. Temporarily killing the Sandy Relief bill was likely part of this charade, whether or not Boehner let any in the House or Senate Democratic leadership in on it.

    The deal was made with Harry Reid, it just couldn’t look like it was made with him, a fact that Harry Reid doesn’t care about because he’s a boss.

    The fact that Rubin doesn’t get this speaks to the fact that 99% of political pundits view politics as a toddler does Sesame Street; they see Big Bird and don’t know it’s just a guy in a suit.

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    scav says:

    @kay: might this be rather a local example of the newest trend / technnique of criticizing fellow repubs? Seem to be enough of them doing it recently that it might be one of the ways to position oneself in an increasingly disfunctional disparate party with bad press. Lockstep obedience only works in favor of individuals if the overall brand is in good odor.

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    @Corner Stone: Did it ever occur to you that the rest of us don’t give a crap who stalked whom, who threatened whom, or who allegedly did what to whom?

    Same goes for you, Cassidy.

    Kee-ripes. Both of you need to go play on the freeway. Talk about ruining a nice conversation.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @redheadedfemme: Cassidy is a fascist sociopath. What would you like me to do? Not comment on your blog anymore?
    Oh… wait.

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    @Corner Stone: How about just ignoring her, taking the high road, and going on with your life?

    Your blood pressure would thank you, I’m sure. As would the rest of us.

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    Cassidy says:

    Corner Stone Says:

    Pie is the cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast.

    And all is right again.

    @redheadedfemme: I don’t disagree. I can be a hothead and Corner Stone is a mean drunk and serial goat blower. I apologize for the discomfort. ;)

    Seriously, though, you’re right. Sometimes you just get a hankerin’ for conflict.

    ETA: I’m a dude.

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    Machine-Gun Preacher (formerly Ben Franklin) says:


    Good on you. I have the honor of possessing a Samsung Galaxy III, of which my eldest says is the most current technology, but wasted on me.

    It’s discouraging when you have a smart phone, and you aren’t

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    Steeplejack says:

    @gogol’s wife:

    FYWP has resolutely prevented me from answering you, so I’ll try a short version:

    Elementary is okay. It picked up steam after a slow start and managed to dig itself out of its starting hole–that the concept is a complete rip of Sherlock.

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    kay says:


    Yeah, maybe. That doesn’t last, though. When the OH GOP collapsed in corruption in 2006 they all became “conservatives”. In 2010 they were all Tea Partiers. They just rebrand.

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    sharl says:

    @kay: I found the link for Progress Ohio. From your comments and the content at their site, they appear to be an active organization.

    They are associated with several umbrella organizations (see upper right corner of their site). The Progress Now organization lists about 21 state affiliates along the left side of the window, including Progress Ohio as well as the other states I suggested at my #124 comment.

    I’ve only looked at the site for Progress Florida. It suggests some lethargy to me, but I’ll try to check them out further (they’ve only been around since 2008, and maybe they’re still on the rebound from the 2010 national and state debacles).

    Thanks again for the suggestion; they’ll be getting a monthly contribution from me.

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    Librarian says:

    @Corner Stone: I agree. Lately I have become interested in somebody else named Django:

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    kay says:


    That’s them. They do “Rootscamp” which is the grassroots training I was talking about. My friend Dolores is going this year and she will probably run fir something eventually. I may go with her. If I do I’ll write about it and take pix.

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    scav says:

    @kay: exactly. it’s not like all of them are really going to disappear in a puff of smoke. I guess I’m just hoping it’ll take them a while to breed up a generation of leaders and admins that know how to manage churn and compromise.

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    Steeplejack says:


    One of my favorites: “Billets Doux.”

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    Scamp Dog says:

    @Machine-Gun Preacher (formerly Ben Franklin): How about “not so elaborate hoax”?

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    AHH onna Droid says:

    @sharl: If u want change in Florida give early and often to the AFL-CIO of Florida and its COPE fund.

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    Zach says:

    @Hill Dweller:

    Cordray for Treasury Secretary. Change the dynamic at Treasury.

    Cordray has already passed the Senate once, and now the senate has Warren, who thinks very highly of him.

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