Monday Evening Open Thread: “Remember, Jobs Come First”

Or, as Mr. Charles P. Pierce would phrase the argument: “People got no jobs, people got no money. Fuck the deficit.”


Apart from resisting the austerity bombers, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

123 replies
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    Maude says:

    Boehner wants to extend Bush Tax Cut. Obama says no.
    How’s that lower the deficit, to keep the cut?

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    jo6pac says:

    Waiting fo a phone call on what the cost of solar is, it’s pretty cheap if you install it yourself. Then hire a contractor to do the final wiring. Other than that I got notten.

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    burnspbesq says:

    The one and only time in my entire existence on this mortal coil that I will root for the UConn women’s basketball team.

    Why, yes, they are playing Maryland. Why do you ask?

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    dmsilev says:

    More cat-herding in preparation for our department’s open house this weekend. In the course of soliciting volunteers, I felt like a Mormon missionary: “Knock, knock, can I have a moment of your time to talk about the open house, and no I’m not leaving your office until you give me an answer…”

    Next step: Get 70 or 80 graduate students to actually show up on a Saturday morning the way they all say they will. This will involve food as bait.

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    burnspbesq says:

    Also looking forward to seeing Jason Pierre-Paul do unspeakable things to RG3.

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    Yutsano says:

    Currently at home trying to keep a cold from getting worse. At least for once I was smart enough to not even try going in to work.

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    burnspbesq says:


    Please tell me you didn’t really think the Republicans cared about the deficit.

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    Ben Franklin says:

    How about a Federal tax on marijuana? Oh, yeah…that would cost those Prison Guard unions lost overtime and maybe even be downsized….

    “Holder. I’m holdin you responsible for those jobs.”

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    Walker says:

    Looks like the new Republican proposal increases the payroll tax.

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    Yutsano says:

    @burnspbesq: They totes care about the deficit! Until a Republican gains the White House again. Then it’s what’s a deficit? RUN UP THE CREDIT CARD AND START A FEW MORE WARS!!

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Free food will always get college students to show up.

    I still have another three hours to go before my evening starts. :-( I know other West Coasters feel my pain.

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    burnspbesq says:

    While we’re on the subject of breathtakingly stupid Republican ideas, here’s another one.

    This has nothing at all to do with tax policy (Republican dudes and dudettes, what part of “a tax on net income” are you struggling to undrstand?), and everything to do with fucking the residents of blue states.

    Take this idea and shove it.

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    red dog says:

    In regard to the earlier postings about songs of the 70s. That period drove me to country music and then they enjoyed their heydey which abruptly ended with Billy Ray Cyrus and mullets so now the only music is good blues…again forever and ever.

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    Here is a hilarious pic from the weekend’s xmas decorating.

    I’m going to go through horrible holiday stories that people are submitting to our blog tonight. Also, blogwhoring.

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    RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    I’m unexpectedly 200 miles from home and contemplating a Holiday Inn dinner and early bed. May get home tomorrow, maybe not.
    I assume the republic didn’t fall apart because I haven’t see a blog or news site all day. I’ll catch up on as much more as I can. Gotta get my Monday snark fix.

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    J. Michael Neal says:

    “Living After Noon” won an honorable mention in the November 2012 Center for Writing Excellence genre fiction contest.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @J. Michael Neal:


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    RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    @J. Michael Neal:

    No kidding! Well done, and congrats!!

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    Maude says:

    Well, they said they cared, didn’t they?

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    Origuy says:

    Here’s a page to put in your bookmarks: Wikipedia’s Book Sources page. Enter an ISBN and get links to the online catalogs of hundreds of libraries to search for that book.
    Or is this one of those things that everyone knew about but me?

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    Liberty60 says:

    I’m enjoying a reading of a Wall Street Journal article on California’s debt-

    Bottom line, apparently The Marketplace likes governments that raise taxes to pay for stuff.

    Who knew?

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    burnspbesq says:


    Yeah, shocking, ain’t it?

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    Felonius Monk says:

    @burnspbesq: YES-YES-YES!

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    arguingwithsignposts says:

    @J. Michael Neal: congratulations!

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    PeakVT says:

    @Origuy: I go to WorldCat directly when I’m looking for library copies. I believe most of the individual library catalogs listed are contained in WorldCat, though WC is less up-to-date.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Felonius Monk:

    You’re going to make me guess which of my six prior comments in this thread that relates to, aren’t you?

    ETA: Or are you re-enacting the deli scene from When Harry Met Sally?

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    cathyx says:

    My 9th grader just finished the first trimester with all pre-AP classes and got straight A’s, along with making varsity jazz band beating out seniors. I’m so proud. (I’m knocking on wood that I’m not jinxing her by typing this)

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    General Stuck says:

    We have simply had paradise grade weather here in the high desert for this time of year, and they say it won’t change much in December. 65 to 70, zero wind and humidity, and pristine air. Great place to live, if you can deal with boredom. Luckily, if I want some drama, BJ is there to bait a firebagger or two, and we’re off to the funny farm.

    And since I bought my counter top distiller, the taste of sweet water, and nothing but water, is a cherry on top.

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    Steeplejack says:


    Congrats to the spawn! What’s her instrument?

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    Felonius Monk says:

    @burnspbesq: I am also looking forward to a little JP-P whoop-ass on RG3. :)

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    cathyx says:

    @Steeplejack: Thanks. Alto sax.

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    RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist says:

    @General Stuck:

    Temps in the 60s for the last few days here in southern MI. It’s warm and foggy, shirt sleeves weather here several hours after dark. You’d almost think the climate….nah…

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    @J. Michael Neal: Oh, hell yeah!
    As to what I’m doing this evening: I’m trying to put an e-portfolio together with several of the pieces missing. Fun!
    BTW, in regard to JC’s cut of sales thru the Amazon link on this page: Is this something you have to go through that link each time to ensure, or do you do it once and the website remembers?

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    PeakVT says:

    Another awesome selfie from Curiosity. Also, too: nothing earth-shattering or record-breaking has been found (contrary to reports from a few weeks ago).

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    MikeJ says:

    @PeakVT: +1 for no duckface.

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    burnspbesq says:


    Alto sax.

    Someday she’s going to discover Ornette Coleman, and that’ll be the end of domestic tranquility at your house. ;-)

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I’m guessing they link into WorldCat, which is what I usually use.

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    👽 Martin says:

    @burnspbesq: Fail in sentence 1:

    [I]t means that Americans who choose live in low-tax states have to effectively subsidize those who choose to live in high-tax states.

    In theory.

    High-tax states have been subsidizing low-tax states for ages. Eliminating that deduction would make it even worse.

    How about we implement 20 year chargeback of 5% of income against every advanced degree to the state where that degree was earned? The IRS can collect it and send it back to the taxpayers that subsidized that education. CA and MA would have their state budgets repaired in an instant. Might even be able to lower our taxes as a result.

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    IowaOldLady says:

    @J. Michael Neal: Congrats! Excellence is always a good thing. We need more of that in the world.

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    Violet says:

    I’m exhausted. Christmas stress has already gotten to me. I used to enjoy Christmas. It was fun and festive. These days somehow that’s not allowed in my household and only stress and anger is allowed. I HATE IT. I want my Christmas back–the one that is easy and not so stressful. Where you get to enjoy things like putting up a tree and lights and then have some eggnog or a hot toddy. Just fun and easy. No more. Ugh.

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    Raven says:

    Any natural history people out there?

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    cathyx says:

    @burnspbesq: I won’t mind that a bit. I haven’t had domestic tranquility for 7 years when she started with the recorder.

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    @Raven: Is that a woodpecker in your box, or are you just glad to see me?

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    General Stuck says:


    Downy, I think

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    Violet says:

    @Raven: Very cool picture. I’m getting lots of birds at the birdbath I can see from my kitchen window. The blue jays are fun to watch and sometimes I get red bellied woodpeckers. They’re interesting because they stand very differently than the other birds. Their feet/claws are designed for gripping the sides of things so to perch on the edge of a birdbath is an odd position for them.

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    Raven says:

    @Violet: This dude seems to have drilled through the bluebird house and made a home. I hadn’t seen him until today.

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    Downpuppy says:

    I’ve been pondering Gunsmoke, & not getting too far. It’s a really big subject, but not taken seriously – unlike say, Star Trek, a crappy Gunsmoke ripoff that only ran for a seventh of the time.

  52. 52

    I need some help from the medical professionals around here. I was in court this morning waiting for our motions to be heard and there was a motion ahead of us (motion to compel) which involved a med mal case whereby a mental health person (possibly psychiatrist) prescribed some sort of medication “off label” for a woman who had basically tried everything else which had not worked for her mental health issues. She then suffered the most horrific side effects which resulted in her basically suffering what amounted to first degree burns all over her body (although she was never near any fire), and she died, two months later, after all her skin basically melted away.

    From what I heard during the motion hearing the drug was something like “Lipitril” (I have already googled that and it is not the case but I know it began with an L) and the condition which resulted was not specified by counsel for plaintiff, except the woman basically burned to death over the course of two months.

    I did another google and found that the condition was perhaps “Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis” but it did not look as bad as the photos that plaintiff’s counsel said “our expert witnesses said were the worst they have ever seen”.

    Can anyone help me out here? I just want to know more because it sounded utterly horrific and I cannot imagine that a person would think that a side effect as horrifying as that would be worth it.

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    Schlemizel says:

    @red dog:

    I was deeply disappointed in that thread. I mentioned KAAY, Little Rock and the Saturday midnight show Beaker Street & Beaker THeater. I figured somebody would remember Clive Clifford and those radio dramas. Its the first time ever on BJ that I mentioned something obscure & not had a bunch of people chime in about how they remembered it.

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    Schlemizel says:

    @J. Michael Neal:


    It reminds me that I owe you a report on your manuscript. Sorry I didn’t do that already

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    Schlemizel says:


    Good on her! Not too many parents bragging on their 9th grade daughter making through her first trimester 8-{D

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    aimai says:


    Why is it getting worse? My Thanksgiving was like that, this year, hell in a roasting pan. We aren’t doing Christmas this year because we are going to see my husband’s parents. I usually like it, more or less, but get jammed up because Channukah (eight presents times two kids), Youngest daughter’s birthday (set of presents on December 9th) followed by Christmas (bunches of presents).


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    piratedan says:

    sorry Burnsy, rooting for RG III and my ‘Skins…. especially versus that hypocritical POS Mara….

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    General Stuck says:


    All I know is there are rare side effects for all sorts of medications, that are very rare and nasty. Off label is done all the time for certain meds. If we didn’t approve medicines with a risk of possible but rare devastating adverse reactions, then few medicines would be approved. You always roll the dice starting any new med that alters physiology, especially.

    Dr Stuck

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    Violet says:

    @aimai: I don’t think it’s getting worse. It’s just the same every year and for some reason this year I’m just DONE. I’m sick of it. I want it to stop. I want to enjoy Christmas again and I don’t want other people’s self-inflicted stress and misery about Christmas to ruin my enjoyment of it. I’m just done. But don’t know how to truly stay happy while others are miserable.

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    tavella says:


    Could it have been Luminal? That’s a trade name for phenobarbital, which is known to cause TEN. Or possibly Lamictal? Also used off brand for depression treatment.

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    Violet says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Is the medication Lamictal? It’s prescribed for bipolar patients, but is sometimes used for people suffering from depression that won’t respond to other treatment. I’m not sure if that’s truly off-label, but it might be.

    You don’t know what kind of reactions people will have to medications. I took a medication for a short while that should have been fine. Turns out one of the inactive compounding ingredients was from a substance I’m allergic to. Over the three weeks I took it I got more and more miserable to the point where I wanted to claw my skin from the inside. Switched to another version of the medication that didn’t have that compound in it and I was fine the first day.

    I had to dig and dig to find out what was wrong with that medication. The doctor was stumped. I informed the doctor what was going on so he could know for his other patients. It’s not listed as a side effect and most people wouldn’t know about it.

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    redshirt says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Wow. I want to know this now too.

    I’ve been fascinated by cases of “spontaneous consumption” since my Grandmother burned up in a bath tub, cause not really known. Further adding to this charming tale was the first firefighter on the scene to discover her was her son, my Uncle. Good times.

    The theory goes she was a heavy, heavy drinker, so had a lot of alcohol in her body, maybe spilled on her as well. She goes to take a bath to wash it off, but has a cigarette first. She falls asleep in the bathtub than blam. Fire and she burns. Half crispified from what I’ve gathered, though no one has ever gone into detail about it and I would not ask my Uncle about it.

    So, regarding your case, I can’t imagine a drug alone could do that to a body, but rather some combination of alcohol and cigarettes. It seems to explain most “spontaneous combustion” incidents.

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    calabi-yeow says:

    RE: # 52

    possibly Lamictal which can cause Stevens-Johnson Syndrome

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    redshirt says:

    @Violet: Roll it back. Start new Xmas traditions. Talk with other family members and see if they’ll agree – I bet most are just as fed up as you. I think many folks put up a brave face over Xmas, but few enjoy it. Even the children.

    My family has scaled back gift giving enormously. No adult to adult gifts in large settings (no problem in smaller), gifts for kids only.

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    Thank you that sounds like it. Luminal. I cannot imagine that the woman’s psychological problems were to the extent that she would have preferred to burn to death.

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    danimal says:

    @calabi-yeow: I seem to remember being warned to look out for skin rashes when my daughter started Lamictal for seizures.

    I’m glad she is currently going off the med, assuming the med in question is Lamictal.

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    Raven says:

    @redshirt:We get to go to Virginia, stay in a motel and drive back and forth to my bride’s sibs houses for three days. The saving grace has been the drive on the Blue Ridge Parkway from Lynchburg to Roanoke on xmas morning on the way to a killer buffet at the Hotel Roanoke

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    Josie says:

    @Violet: Sometimes a change of scenery is helpful in changing your feelings about a holiday. After my husband died (years ago), I couldn’t face Thanksgiving at our dining room table. The boys and I spent Thanksgiving away from home for several years in different settings until I could do a home cooked meal again. It helped to do that. After three years, we were able to come back to the old dining table and enjoy it. Try to think outside the box in finding ways to make your days more enjoyable. I hope it gets better.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Hmm. It’s a little hard to give advice without specifics, but I understand you may not want to put specifics on the public intertubes. It’s a little easier to ignore the tribulations of others if they don’t live in the same household, especially if they’ll let you get away with just making sympathetic noises and not demand that you pick sides and/or FIX SOMETHING. If they do live in the same household, maybe you need headphones and to claim that you have a lot of work you had to bring home from the office. And then watch Christmas movies on your computer.

    If you can, see if you can do something holidayish where you’ll be away from the stress-producers for the day — a play, a movie, a museum, whatever. Something like volunteering at the YMCA or Boys & Girls Club holiday party might cheer you up since you get to see all the little tots getting excited about Christmas.

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    Violet says:

    @redshirt: I’ve tried. It doesn’t seem to get through. For some reason they are addicted to the stress that comes with having to find gifts for everyone, including adults. It’s ridiculous. I’m tired of it and just want to enjoy Christmas, but somehow the stress seems to take precedence and the things I enjoy doing like decorating the tree or making cookies are met with indifference, resignation or complaints. Ugh.

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    joel hanes says:

    @General Stuck:

    Confirming downy woodpecker.

    Hang a wire cage of suet (beef fat) chunks from a branch
    close to and visible from a big window and enjoy the acrobatics. If you have any other ladderback woodpeckers in the neighborhood, they’ll show up shortly.

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    redshirt says:

    @Violet: Any chance you could go on a vacation as Xmas? Say, to Hawaii or someplace warm and nice?

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    rikyrah says:

    Or, as Mr. Charles P. Pierce would phrase the argument: “People got no jobs, people got no money. Fuck the deficit

    That’s how I feel.

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    brettvk says:

    @Schlemizel: Late to it, but growing up in the Missouri Ozarks in the 70’s I occasionally could catch the KAAY signal late at night. Programming was of course much cooler than anything local. I heard “Beaker” as “Bleeker” at the time. The thing I really remember from them was the Jamie Brockett talking blues song about the Titanic.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Okay, now I’m horrified just from looking at the pictures in Wikipedia. It sounds like it’s a very, very rare side effect, though, so I’m not sure how much traction they’re going to get by suing the original prescriber. I suspect the ball got dropped several times by a whole bunch of medical professionals before they got to the end, unfortunately. And I’m guessing the fact that she was a known mental patient means that her complaints were not taken seriously until it was too late.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Then you know what? Do the things you like to do, with or without them, and enjoy yourself. If they try to freak out about gifts, say, “Well, everyone likes an Amazon gift card. Cookie?”

    I’m just grateful that my family has mostly given up exchanging gifts among adults, and that my Aspie niece was happy to tell me up front that if I make her a hat this year, it needs to be purple, not yellow. (She didn’t tell me to put dragons on it, but that’s what I’m going to do because she’s obsessed with dragons right now.)

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    Steeplejack says:

    @The Very Reverend Crimson Fire of compassion:

    I think you have to arrive at Amazon from that link when you want to buy something and give Cole some vig.

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    Raven says:

    @brettvk: Legend of the USS Titanic. Jamie Brockett. I’ve posted it at least five times here and no one has ever said a word. Fucking squares.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Violet: Ugh. Sorry to hear that. I am so glad that my family isn’t big on gifts; makes the holidays oh so much easier. At this point, I’m down to buying a selection of candies and sweets for the adults and toys/books for my niece and nephew.

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    Raven says:

    @Mnemosyne: A buddy of mine was like that. Crazy shit with gifts every year and I hated it. I was talking about it with his widow and she said, “some of the guys in his platoon got nothing for xmas and he never forgot it. He just loved giving Xmas presents.” I won’t be bringing it up again.

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    brettvk says:

    @Raven: Maybe they’re just too young, or maybe my stuff just wasn’t that good. It seems to me that the cultural products of my youth have markedly aged, much more so than the equivalents of my parents’ generation; i.e., big bands versus the Rolling Stones.

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    Raven says:

    @brettvk: There is NOTHING like the Legend of the USS Titanic!

    Fare thee well Titanic
    Fare thee well

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    I just want to know how a drug with a potential side effect like that get approved by the FDA? I mean what the fuck?

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Could the drug have been Lipitor? I don’t know if they note side effects for off-label uses. Lipitor is prescribed for high cholesterol.

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    joel hanes says:


    Back in the Pleistocene, we used to listen to Brockett’s Titanic on 1090 AM KAAY Little Rock, Clyde Clifford’s “Beaker Street” program starting at 12:00 PM with 100,000 Watts clear-channel.

    I own the CD; I present my bona fides thus:

    “four hundred ninety-seven and a half feet of rope”

    I commend also to your attention the song “Talkin’ Green Beret New Super Yellow Hydraulic Banana Teeny Bopper Blues” which contains the verse:

    Turned on my radio today
    To see what Spiro Agnew had to say
    He said, “If you don’t like The Ballad of the Green Berets
    You must be one o’ them long-haired, dope-smoking, filthy, living-in-a-commune hippy Marxists!”

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    MikeJ says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Many, many drugs have side effects that are horrendous. You’d be surprised how many have suddenly falling over dead with no warning as a side effect.

    Generally, the rarer a side effect, the worse it can be. Also, presumably there’s a reason why you’re being prescribed a drug, and the worse that cause is, the more acceptable severe side effects are.

    Add to that, you what you heard was an argument in court, not a scientific study. That doesn’t mean that horrible things didn’t happen, but we don;t know what happened.

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    Schlemizel says:


    I heard Bleeker too & thought it was a ref to the street in NYC where, it was rumored, hookers hung out! I actually just went & looked that song up, I heard it as “Jack Johnson and the Titanic” but the great gazoogle tells me it is “The Story Of the USS Titanic” and there is a version of it on youtube.

    The cherry on this FUNdae is that that song was originally written by leadbelly! That just blew me away

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    General Stuck says:


    Doesn’t start with L, but sounds like Valproic acid, that is off label for bi polar disorder. And known for some nasty side effects. The TEN is an extreme variation of Stevens-Johnson Syndromw, that can be triggered by all sort of meds, especially antibiotics.

    Lipitor is a cholesterol drug, that can have its own horrible side effect, that I believe attacks muscle tissue.

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    Raven says:

    @joel hanes: He was quite the joker! I remember the song but haven’t thought of it in years.

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    Schlemizel says:

    So I just had an interesting experience. The old cat 18+ that never makes a meow made the most pitiful noise & stumbled/dragged herself into the room, wobbled badly, curled up & collapsed on the floor. She laid there trembling in a heap. I laid down next to her and petted her and coo’ed. The episode went on for a good two minutes then she was calm, just purring.

    We laid there together while the missus blubbered for maybe another 5 minute & then the cat got up & walked away as if nothing happened.

    Not sure if it was a stroke (I doubt it since there seems to be no after affect) or a seizure of some kind.

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    Raven says:

    @Schlemizel: I linked it above. The other one that is great is the full version of Long John Baldry’s “Don’t try to lay no boogie woogie on the king of rock and roll“.

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    Anne Laurie says:


    I’m tired of it and just want to enjoy Christmas, but somehow the stress seems to take precedence and the things I enjoy doing like decorating the tree or making cookies are met with indifference, resignation or complaints. Ugh.

    Any chance you can harden your heart, announce that this year it’s gift cards all round? And then you can say that tree-decorating, or cookie-baking, will take place on Day X at Time Y — anybody, especially kids, welcome to show up, but if it’s not convenient at least you know you have a couple hours of peaceful enjoyment on her schedule.

    Of course if you have a ton of little kids in the extended family you risk getting stuck supervising alone while the parents go stress out at the mall, but even that’s probably less annoying for you. (Having a selection of holiday DVDs from the local library on hand can’t hurt, either.)

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I just want to know how a drug with a potential side effect like that get approved by the FDA? I mean what the fuck?

    Antibiotics can potentially have that exact same side effect. According to Wikipedia, so can NSAIDs, which you can buy over the counter. Technically, you’re risking having the exact same thing happen to you every time you take an aspirin or ibuprofen. It’s just that it’s, you know, very rare. I think the article said it was something like 300 people a year.

    I’m not sure her family is suing the right doctor, but there was definitely a medical fuckup somewhere along the line in that they didn’t realize she was experiencing this very serious (albeit rare) side effect and needed to be taken off the drug immediately.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I love giving gifts and, fortunately, I’m pretty good at it. I do usually try to keep it within bounds so as not to embarrass the other person, though. These days, I lean more towards handmade or “hey, here’s this cool thing I found for you in a thrift shop.”

    I have something for one of my co-workers that I need to give him that I found in a thrift shop — it’s a spoon rest with an alligator that says “New Orleans” on it. He’s going to love it because he loves kitsch, he loves alligators, and he’s from NOLA. Win-win-win, and it only cost me $5 plus tax.

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    Schlemizel says:


    It was midnight on the sea, the band was playing “Nearer My God To Thee”. Fare thee well Titanic, fare thee well.

    I KNEW I couldn’t be the only BJ low life who remembered that song!

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    Raven says:

    @Mnemosyne: My wife had a spinal cortisone injection today and we’re hoping for the best. It’s hard to be a gardening fanatic when you can’t do shit.

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    Raven says:

    @Schlemizel: There are so many memorable lines.

    he look at the ticket
    he look at Jack,
    he look at the ticket
    he look at Jack,
    he look at the ticket
    he look at Jack,
    he look at the ticket
    he look at Jack,
    He says “sorry baby wrong color.”
    He says “me or the ticket?”
    n’ he says “you.”

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    Schlemizel says:


    OH God I still remember that stupid song too! I didn’t remember the name but I know the words. Thanks!

    I still can here the constable pronouncing BOO-Gee WOO-Gee

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    Schlemizel says:

    But you gotta let it OUT captain!

    It didn’t hurt that this was the summer I discovered “Mexican rope” myself

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    Ruckus says:

    I’ve done the no gifts thing for about 5 years now. Just haven’t had the spare change to purchase gifts that no one will use nor see among all the rest of the nic nacks on the shelves. I’ve told everyone not to get me stuff either because it then becomes more stuff that I have to store or carry around when I move.
    It makes for a much calmer xmas.

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    Bunker says:

    “By all accounts, the past month has been hard on Romney’s wife, Ann, who friends said believed up until the end that ascending to the White House was their destiny. They said she had been crying in private and trying to get back to riding her horses.”

    That’s how simple “Faith” is embraced.

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    Utah hunters distressed to discover the state’s free market voucher system for issuing hunting licenses favors the rich and powerful. Shocking!

    Here is how it works: The state has enticed ranchers with an allotment of vouchers for lucrative hunting licenses that they can sell for thousands of dollars as part of a private hunt on their land. Many used to complain bitterly to state officials about elk and other game eating forage meant for their cattle.
    The vouchers for hunting licenses, handed out for more than 10 years now, give them ample economic incentive to nurture big game on their land and not get frustrated with ranching and sell their land to developers.
    Another program, smaller in scope but much more controversial, allows private nonprofit groups to auction off a few hundred licenses to the highest bidder or run their own drawing in exchange for supporting conservation projects. State wildlife managers say that with species like elk, the system is working to produce more game for all.
    “We want the most wildlife we can have,” said Greg Sheehan, the director of the State Division of Wildlife Resources. “The question is how we do that.”
    This new approach, some say, violates a century-old American ethic, articulated by Theodore Roosevelt, himself an avid hunter, that wildlife belongs to all, and not just to those with land or wealth.
    “Money has definitely infiltrated our American hunting system,” said David Allen, the president of the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, based in Montana. “Some of it’s totally ethical and legal and aboveboard. But is it all good? Maybe, maybe not.”

    Verrrry interesting …

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    I read she spends her days “crying softly.” We people, on the other hand, have had a different reaction.

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    Raven says:

    @Schlemizel: I saw Long John on the JVC Blues Tour,. This is him with Kathi McDonald. She did backup with Claudia (Brown Sugar) Lanier with both Mad Dogs and Englishmen and Leon Russell. Check them on on Honky Tonk Woman and pay attention to the baby. I wonder what that kid is up to today?

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    AA+ Bonds says:


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    Raven says:

    @Bunker: xin loi

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    Schlemizel says:


    This is Cindi’s Crying which I have never hear anywhere other than Beaker Street.

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    Lamictal is actually well-regarded for having very few side effects in most patients. Among known side effects in some people, however, is skin rashes. And not everyone’s the same — hell, peanuts seem to be as lethal as sarin to some folks. George likes his Kung Pao lethal.

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    I’m taking Lamictal, and actually psychiatrists like it because it has so very, very few side effects and interactions. It has two known side effects. Both are very rare, around 1% of sufferers, both are terrifying – cognitive dysfunction or Stephen-Johnsons – and both are easily spotted before they do any real damage and stop as soon as you stop taking Lamictal. If you get a nasty rash on the palms or your hands or soles of your feet, stop taking it. That’ll happen during the first month or never. Otherwise, you’re good.

    It’s a very gentle drug, but it brings up an important fact of medicine: Every medication is a tradeoff, and not a predictable tradeoff. The human body is full of surprises, and everyone’s is different. ‘Very tiny chance of something horrible happening to you’ is the chance we take when we, oh, eat monosodium glutamate or fish for the first time.

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    joel hanes says:

    … on the third time around the wheelhouse …

    Doin’ the Eagle Rock up and down the pier …

    The other song that we heard first on Beaker Street was Emerson Lake and Palmer’s “Lucky Man”, during which I pretty much blew out the speakers on Dad’s Rambler wagon …

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    Or something like that.Suffern Ace says:

    Epidermal Necrolysis would be one thing. The Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis is “WTF why did we bother to evolve bodies like this” awful sounding.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Bunker: Damn. What IS it with these second-rate trolls around here?

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    Scott Alloway says:

    @Mnemosyne: Or as we use to say in the late 60s, early 70s, “Lets get cultured.” (As long as there was wine, also, too).

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    burnspbesq says:

    Good game so far.

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    burnspbesq says:

    Good game so far.

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    Joel says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: the ratio of dosing betwen effectiveness and lethal side effects (both a function of concentration) is expressed by the therapeutic index. the worst TI that I know of belongs to cardiac glycosides, which are last resort medications to make the heart pump harder. the TI is 2.

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    ruemara says:

    @J. Michael Neal: Congratulations!

    I think I’ll just double up on my meds, maybe pop a vicodin and go to bed early. I just want to be at work. I wish I could go to work every day of the week, but since I don’t have it like that, I’m building up to planning my relocation. Other than that, it’s pleasing the kittens and maybe a nice cup of tea.

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    I don’t know how high Lithium’s TI is, but I know it’s higher than 1 – because I was on it for awhile. They have to ease you up real slow-like!

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    Del says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: Hell, my lovely family gifted me with a complete intolance to morphine to the point where I’m afraid to use anyopioid drugs. The worst part? According to every doctor I’ve ever talked to my ‘side effect’ is so rare they’ve never heard of it. Basically since at least my grandmother (who probably died from it), through my father, and in me resides a wonderful bit of genetic code that says, “Morphine? Great, shut the lungs off ASAP”. We’re talking near total resperatory failure within 15 minutes of a standard dose. Not. Fun.

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    Violet says:

    Sorry I’m really late back to the thread. Got called away.
    @Josie: Thanks for the input. The change of scenery is a good idea. I just don’t know how to make it happen.

    The volunteering is a good suggestion. Maybe I’ll try that. Helping those less fortunate always reminds you how lucky you are.

    @redshirt: Well, I live in a hot climate, so going to heat during our cool time of year is never appealing. But even so, I can’t afford a vacation, nor can I leave at Christmas. But great idea!

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    Violet says:

    @Anne Laurie: I can only do it for some. Won’t work for others without buy-in from certain family members. So…left with stressing about gifts, cards, etc. I’ve removed myself as much as possible, but I still have to deal with the stressed out person who has chosen that stress.

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    El Cid says:

    Obama clearly is unwilling to seriously commit to fixing this economy and the debt and deficit which are killing us and driving us toward total cataclysm unless he cancels any law anywhere restricting where Americans can carry firearms, and he must ban any individual from suing a corporation for injury or negligence, and unless the President is willing to certify that a nice smile by a chief executive will count as sufficient pollution control on any industrial emissions by air or water or ground, then he’s just not serious on finding a solution.

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