This is straight up anti-Semitism:
Aside from being utter nonsense, this is akin to claiming Jews run the banking system. One of you all will have to follow this degenerate scumbags twitter feed to see if he starts quoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
jl
Why are Aussie billionaire magnates such jackasses?
Edit: I don’t mean to pry, but previous post brought to mind question of whether Cole ever cooked while naked.
Edit edit: sorry, penultimate previous post. Somebody is stepping on their own posts.
Jewish Steel
To be fair, this commenting juggernaut is entirely J owned and operated.
redshirt
What is “the Jewish owned press”?
As opposed to the partially Saudi owned Fox, yeah?
mark
A RW Catholic is an antisemite? Has that ever happened in history?
ottercliff
Shut up you fat, bigoted, evil bloviator. Your publishing network is bottom of the pond biology in action.
Hypatia's Momma
If by “Jewish owned press” he means “newspapers (tv/radio) published by Jews in Israel”, then it’s probable that Mr. Murdoch simply doesn’t recognise a truly Free Press when he sees one. Which isn’t surprising.
Gin & Tonic
@ottercliff: Hold on just a second. I don’t think you can fairly call Rupert fat.
redshirt
Seriously. I find it hilarious/puzzling that the second largest shareholder at NewsCorpse is Saudi royalty. Talk about gaming the system.
Mark S.
Wow, usually saying something that anti-Semitic would turn the mainstream media against you, but Rupert pays half of these assholes’ salaries, so I’m not gonna hold my breath.
Howard Beale IV
Rupert left off a prefix in his tweet: he forgot the word(s) ‘non-zionist’ before the word Jewish.
Biff Longbotham
Nah, that would be the full monty example of bigotry. He has lots of ways of saying “Christ killers!!” more subtly.
cathyx
What newspaper(s) is he referring to?
Anton Sirius
What do you expect the Sausage King of Chicago to do about…
Oh, FOXman. Sorry. My bad.
scav
Yes, Rupie dearest, let’s discuss how you and you beloved son are firmly in control of, aware of and approve what each and every paper you own opines about and reports on in all their methods and technicalities and splendor and factual glory. Would you like some pie afterwards Rupie or are you full up?
Biggest future possible conumdrum: Rupie and Thatcher die on the same day. decisions, decision — as even with copious amounts of beer there is only so much throughput.
Chris
Fucking Rupert Murdoch.
I can’t believe this guy actually inspired a Bond villain. The villain was equally evil yet so much cooler than the real thing.
cathyx
@Chris: He’s ugly enough to be a villain.
akaka
Um, I think he is trying to accuse NYT of beibg a liberal pro-Palesrinian rag.
SRW1
I am starting to think somebody must have invented a dumbray weapon that can be tuned to selectively hit conservatives and that somebody is blasting Fox at max setting.
beltane
The most likely response from Abe Foxman will be to partially concur with Rupert Murdoch, excoriating these imaginary media moguls for being self-hating Jews. Or maybe I have become too cynical.
Roger Moore
@SRW1:
I’ve they’ve created a dumb-ray, the more likely explanation is that it turns people into Conservatives.
DH
As a reader of the Ny Times and, unfortunately, the Washington Post, I can assure Murdoch they are not anti-Israel. Heck, Ethan Bronner of the Times has a son in the Israeli Army, or at least he used to( by the way, for that reason, he shouldn’t be covering the Middle East, but I digress). Murdoch is just hoping he can get readers for his NY Post, which is truly a right wing rag of the worst sort-Nepotism J. Pod, anyone?
Fuck off Rupert
Keith G
Maybe it’s that I had several too many pints while watching a few games, but how is the quote in question showing “hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group”.
I would not be surprised if RM is antisemitic since he seems to be completely objectionable in so many ways, but I don’t see this statement as prima facie evidence of antisemitism
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FlipYrWhig
You guys seem to have focused on the Jewish-owned press bullshit. But what about the anti-Israel bullshit? Is there a single media outlet that ever sides with the Palestinians?
John T
There’s an add-on for Firefox and Chrome browsers called Murdoch Block. Should you inadvertently click on a link to Fox News or to the Daily Mail (or one of many other propaganda outlets owned by NewsCorp) it will prevent your browser from loading the page and driving up their pageview count and ad revenues.
FlipYrWhig
@Keith G: Um, “Jewish-owned press.” I.e., Jews control the media.
Alison
If Jews really were as powerful as people seem to think we are, I wouldn’t have such a damn hard time finding Hanukkah candles in my town. It’s the Bay Area, FFS.
kindness
But it is true to Murdoch’s principles. Win or leave your opposition a burning wreckage and if you can light the fire and then point at your opponent all the better.
El Cid
This is the equivalent of when right wingers scream that any publication or broadcast is somehow not 100% absolute through and through raging ultra-right wing, it’s “liberal”.
For the New York Times to cover everything through the lens of Israeli “security”, but to occasionally mention that Palestinians are humans and it’s something other than optimum to kill lots of them, well, that’s “anti-Israel”.
Poopyman
@FlipYrWhig:
Al Jazeera maybe, in the sense that they seem to be on the side of the injured and killed children and women non-combatants.
Southern Beale
Well, according to this Rupert Murdoch is “technically” Jewish on his mother’s side. So I guess this makes him part of the “Jewish-owned press.”
Alison
@Southern Beale: UGH, that’s worse than Cantor.
(BTW, if the Jewish ancestry is on the mother’s side, there’s no “technically” about it – if your mom is Jewish, you are, whether you practice or not, call yourself a Jew or not, etc. Not that I *want* him in the tribe, but just saying…)
The Pale Scot
Well, by jewish law/tradition? Rups is jewish, his momma was and he used her family’s nut to start his business career in publishing.
The Pale Scot
Opps!, Ms.B beat me to it.
DPS
Technically, when you’re trying to shout down opposition to Likud policies, it is by definition impossible for anything you say to be anti-Semitic.
For instance, “Jews killed God and eat gentile babies and are running a secret world government while sitting in bathtubs full of money, now leave Bibi alone!!!” is not an anti-Semitic statement. A lot of people wouldn’t realize that.
TexasMango
I’m sure Bill Kristol will resign from FOX in protest.
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LCaution
I think it can be read 3 ways.
1. Your interpretation.
2. Israel’s acts so despicable, even the press owned by Jews opposes them.
3. Ironic. Haven’t you anti-Semites who believe the media is owned by Jews asked yourselves why, if that is the case, there is no support for Israel’s policies.
I don’t know Murdoch except for his media empire so I have no idea which interpretation is correct but tone is hard to convey in 140 characters. And I have no idea what prompted that particular tweet.
Redhand
It seems to me that the tags to John’s post offer an apt commentary all their own: “Posted in Assholes, Our Failed Media Experiment, Sociopaths.”
Roy G.
One irony is that while dumbasses like David Gregory proclaim that Bibi Netenyahoo is the ‘leader of the Jewish people,’ results show that a large majority of American Jews voted for Obama, against Bibi’s wishes. Not only that, but a large percentage of them don’t want anything to do with the Zionist project and ‘greater’ Israel.
What’s worse than being called an anti-semite? Being called a ‘self-hating Jew.’ As I recall, there was even a Holocaust survivor or two in CA who were spit on for supporting the Mavi Mamara and the fight against the Israeli blockade around the Gaza Ghetto.
Bruce S
You don’t have to quote the Protocols of the Elders of Zion when you’ve got a media empire that’s aka The Protocols of the Elders of Crazytown.
Bruce S
@FlipYrWhig:
“Is there a single media outlet that ever sides with the Palestinians?”
Uh…Democracy Now!?!?!? Actually, Haaretz is more balanced than the US mass media on Palestinian issues.
beltane
@Bruce S: Protocols of the Elders of Crazytown is a good one, much better than Jon Stewart’s “Bullshit Mountain”.
Keith G
@FlipYrWhig: I guess that is a view. Earlier in the day I was scanning actually Jewish owned publications that were less than enthusiastic about IDF actions, some downright critical.
I was supposing they were the focus.
Howard Beale IV
I am stunned that Rupert hasn’t called the WSJ editor on the carpet for this tasty morsel:
Villago Delenda Est
The Jews do not dominate the banking system.
Asshole WASPs do. It’s in the interest of asshole WASPs to keep the peasants focused on the Christ-Killers as the ones running the banking system, though.
It amazes me that Murdoch, who owns a bunch of press, isn’t Jewish himself.
? Martin
@cathyx: The Joo York Times
Villago Delenda Est
@Roy G.:
Holocaust survivors have seen the results of Israel’s Gaza policy up close.
Villago Delenda Est
Murdoch’s mother was a Jew?
That makes Murdoch a Jew, by tradition. Because matrilineal descent is kinda needed when you’re being raped by Cossacks repeatedly.
Keith G
Anyway, Murdock is a side show…who cares? Fuck him.
What I find interesting is that Iran is openly the supply source of the rockets used by Hamas to attack Israel. Even though Israel’s action toward Gaza has been fought with stupidity and ill motives, doesn’t Israel have a clear and unobjectionable right to attack Iran in self defense?
some guy
@Roy G.:
Her name is Hedy Epstein
some guy
@Keith G:
have you been promoted to “Research Officer” yet?
Keith G
@some guy: It’s late. You’ve lost me.
SatanicPanic
Maybe he’s being ironic. Even if he’s not, it’s not like his media empire doesn’t say worse stuff every damn day. I would expect nothing less from the head guy.
Peter Murphy
@Villago Delenda Est: Not his mother, Dame Elisabeth Murdoch, (still kicking around at 103), but supposedly his dad’s dad’s mum.
I’m a little surprised, because his father, Keith Murdoch (the first ‘dad’, and thus supposedly at least one quarter Jewish) tried to get Australia’s first ever Jewish general – Sir John Monash – deposed from his post. Not for incompetence – Sir John would probably be one of the few competent generals of WWI – but for racial reasons.
catclub
So Sheldon Adelson, is jewish, and owns a newspaper in Israel.
So this is aimed at him. Huh! I am a bit surprised.
Full Metal Wingnut
The press? Anti-Israel? Why didn’t anyone tell me about Opposite Day!
Howard Beale IV
@Keith G: Israel has the right to respond to an initial Iranian attack. But Iran has not preemptively attacked Israel now has it? And some can argue that Fatah is responding to illegal Isreali actions in the Gaza strip. Now if you want to make the case that Fatah is Iran’s proxy, then by extention you would also have to agree that Israel is a proxy for the US (although I think its really the other way around i.e., the US is Israel’s bitch, much like GOP congressmen are Grover Norquist’s bitches-but I digress….)
? Martin
@Keith G:
No. We supply weapons to damn near everyone on earth.
I’m not saying that’s a great thing, but that’s the convention. Doesn’t mean Israel can’t be pissed at Iran though. Also doesn’t mean the rest of the world can’t be pissed at us.
aussie sheila
aussie billionaires are less numerous than their US counterparts, but are indeed, assholes. Perhaps because in this country extremely wealthy people garner less deference and more overall hostility here than in the US, and so they feel a little ‘unloved’ :).
I believe I speak for 99.9% of australians when I say that we are glad he has renounced his australian citizenship, because that means that we don’t have to explain or apologise! He is widely despised in his country of birth, both for his politics, and for the fact that he renounced his citizenship simply in order to make more money. HIs son has been an utter failure as a media mogul wannabee in ozland, and his flagship newspaper here, The Australian, is a loss making vanity enterprise appealing to rich, cranky, old, white men.
I would just love for the US media to go after him and have a very close look at the corproate governance of his flagship company.
Rupert Murdoch? Your welcome-sorry for the worst export australia has ever made to the US-but better you than us!
redshirt
@aussie sheila: I don’t know. Yahoo Serious?
Tim C.
@redshirt: @redshirt:
Okay… I was in middle school I admit, but I kinda liked Yahoo Serious. Splitting the beer atom? Come on… it was a little funny.
Chris
@Villago Delenda Est:
As I recall, Asshole WASPs actively colluded to keep the Jews out of banking back in the day, during the height of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion type craze. (Even as assholes blamed the Jews for banking crises).
Suffern ACE
@aussie sheila: the media will never go after him. He pushes back hard.
Anyway, it’s just a shrewd business move pretending that the New York Times isn’t sufficiently pro Israeli so you got to get your news from the one true channel.
dedc79
isn’t he just saying that the press is not jewish-owned?
redshirt
@Tim C.: “Yahoo Serious Film Festival?”
Top Ten Australian exports:
10. That weird rain stick
9. Kangaroos and Joeies.
8. Midnight Oil
7. Feral child from The Road Warrior who threw the razor boomerang
6. Russel Crowe
5. Crocodile Hunter
4. Mohawk dude from The Road Warrior
3. Crocodile Dundee
2. Mel Gibson
1. Shrimp on barbie
FlipYrWhig
@redshirt: 0. Didgeridoos.
CW in LA
@FlipYrWhig: Didgeridoos rule. The rest… meh.
redshirt
I kid, because I love Australia. AC/DC is a national treasure.
LD50
@Keith G: Well, Netanyahu was counting on President Romney to do that.
Keith G
@? Martin: @Howard Beale IV:
Is it that clear cut?
Hamas is a non-state actor whose purposeful actions (attacking the state of Israel with rockets) take the lives of Israeli citizens.
Hamas is a designated terrorist organization.
Iran is purposefully supplying Hamas with the military weaponry that Hamas uses to attack Israel and kill Israeli citizens.
Was the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2002 a just and legal action?
Does Israel has the right to use military action against Iran?
Steve Crickmore
The Interior Minister of Israel, Eli Yishal admits, the real reason for Israel’s operation in Gaza…”The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages (and acquire more land). Only then will Israel be calm for forty years.” an operation with the encouragement, wink, nod and heavy, military and financial support of the winner of the Nobel Peace prize of 2009. There is your cynicism for you. Yes, Obama, according to the White House press secretary, has “urged Prime Minister Netanyahu to make every effort to avoid civilian casualties.”…. well, every effort, except firing a ton of missiles into cities and crowded refugee camps.
Donald
@Keith G:
You really want to go there? Israel or the US or somebody has been assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists. The US supplies Israel with weapons it has used on civilians and supports Israel as it expands its settlements, a policy which amounts to apartheid in the West Bank. Most of the civilians who’ve died over the years in the I/P conflict have been Palestinians killed by Israelis, sometimes with US weapons.
And as Martin said, we’ve supplied weapons to groups all over the world in the past several decades, often used to kill civilians. I really don’t get this–do you think that the logic you apply to justify an Israeli attack on Iran couldn’t be used to justify an attack on the US? Some Americans are utterly inconsistent on this. Most often they tend to vote Republican, but there seem to be quite a few who are Democrats.
Donald
@Keith G:
You really want to go there? Israel or the US or somebody has been assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists. The US supplies Israel with weapons it has used on civilians and supports Israel as it expands its settlements, a policy which amounts to apartheid in the West Bank. Most of the civilians who’ve died over the years in the I/P conflict have been Palestinians killed by Israelis, sometimes with US weapons.
And as Martin said, we’ve supplied weapons to groups all over the world in the past several decades, often used to kill civilians. I really don’t get this–do you think that the logic you apply to justify an Israeli attack on Iran couldn’t be used to justify an attack on the US? Some Americans are utterly inconsistent on this. Most often they tend to vote Republican, but there seem to be quite a few who are Democrats.
Viva BrisVegas
@redshirt:
Acka Dacka died in 1980.
And just because it can’t be said often enough, Rupert Murdoch is a United States citizen.
As to whether he is any more Jewish than the rest of us gentiles, I would say it is extremely unlikely. His father was Keith Murdoch, a pillar of the WASP establishment. Both of Keith’s grandfathers and his father were Presbyterian/Church of Scotland ministers.
His mother is still going strong at 104, so that should give you an idea of how long Rupert is likely to be around.
Enjoy Rupert while you can, he’s all yours.
LanceThruster
Commented at Mondoweiss was this. Seems to make sense as Israel has been shown to play fast and loose with the facts time and again. I remember seeing an official Israeli photo of “Palestinian” militants carrying out a rocket attack. They were like ten feet from the chain link fence between armed guard towers in addition to the remote control machine guns placed at key location, yet this team of rocket launchers looked as if they might as well have been laying out a picnic blanket in the park.
SimoHurtta says:
November 17, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Israel claims constantly Hamas firing Fajr-3 and Fajr-5 artillery rockets. Both are very long (5 – 7 meters) and heavy (400 – 900 kg) artillery rockets. To put these rockets to a firing position demands manpower, machines and special launching platforms. They are not like these light and mobile Qassams which can be moved by a couple a men, do not demand launching tubes and can be prepared to launch in a very short time (some tens of seconds). It is impossible to believe that Hamas could use same hidden launching tubes for these giant artillery rockets more than one time. Even more difficult is to believe that Israel would not know about these hidden launching platforms.
The list of Iranian weapons in use of Hamas is “amusing”. Why would Iran smuggle to Gaza basic weapons like mortar shells, Grad rockets etc which could be easily bought from Egyptian black markets? It would be much easier to give a suitcase full of dollars and say to Pals buy what you need. Why (and how) would Iran smuggle to Gaza long and heavy artillery rockets which demand special launching systems are almost impossible to be used in the tactical situation Hamas soldiers are (small area + complete Israeli air superiority and extremely developed spying systems).
By claiming constantly Iranian weapons to exist in hands of Hamas and those few successful long rage rocket launchings (which I doubt come from Gaza and are fired by Palestinians) is aimed to get needed excuse to act against Iran.
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Jonothan Cook also posted a great piece there on identifying responsible parties in the escalation of the violence.
Brantl
Why is Jewish owned press so consistently anti-Israel? Maybe they are actually paying attention to the facts, and recognize that Israel is the Goliath in this story and Palastine the David, with Goliath’s foot on David’s neck for 30 + years. Go figure.
Keith G
@Donald: Good golly Don. Where am I going?
I am asking a few questions about an issue I am wondering about. I detest Bibi and I hate that so much death and destruction is caused by idiots arguing over bronze age (and newer) mythologies. So stow your sermon and understand that I am just curious about the ways this might escalate.