If You Voted for Obama, You Probable Are On Food Stamps and Like Free Stuff

20121115-111736.jpgThe bizarre fantasies that conservatives will concoct in order to ignore the fact that We the You People rejected their Randian utopia has officially reached Level Ridiculous, with this gem from some fresh-faced assclown who writes for CNS News and calls himself Ron Meyer:

If all 47 million food stamp recipients voted for President Obama, it would account for 75.4 percent of Obama’s 62.3 million votes.

~snip~

Not everyone on food stamps votes or votes Democrat (and no one polls this subset of the population), and I don’t want to overstate the effects of the growth in welfare.

If citizens vote in their own personal, short-term interests, with 49 percent of the population receiving some sort of federal aid, Republicans will never win another election. Thankfully many of those 49 percent are elderly voters who want a bright, debt-free future for their children.

In fact, conservatives should take heart that this election was as close as it turned out. It means that at least some of those receiving federal aid are open to conservative anti-poverty ideas.

While liberals throw federal money at voters, conservatives must offer them something more substantial. It’s tough to beat politicians handing out free stuff, but we have to hope that careers and purposeful opportunity will appeal to American’s ethos.

Got it? In pursuit of his dream to plant his Randian flag into the sweet earth somewhere in the “every man for himself” land of milk and honey, Meyer laments that if all the hapless assholes who receive some sort of federal aid continue to vote what’s in their short-term interest, instead of what might be good for them in the never-gonna-happen event that they somehow move from the 47 percent to the 1 percent, then Republicans are never going to win another election. Ever!

But it’s not the GOP’s fault! And it wasn’t Mitt Romney’s fault either! Blame the moochers. Blame the 47 percent. Blame the sewage-dwelling swine-lords who shuffle through the underbelly of our society trading stamps for low-grade high-fructose food and foraging for scraps left for them by their Galtian betters.

But most of all, blame Obama and those damn dirty fascist Demonrats who bribed uppity youngsters with promises of government-subsidized book learnin’; bribed unmarried sluts with promises of guilt-free contraception-laden whoredom; and bribed Mexican anchor babies with promises of a fair opportunity to not get rounded up and deported.

Republicans didn’t lose, you see — they were tricked. They got cheated out of what is rightfully theirs. Nothing is their fault — it’s the fault of Democrats, liberals, and progressives, all of whom are nothing but communists handing out free stuff to poor bastards. What were these poor bastards to do in the face of such socialist charity? The temptation of “free stuff” is too much to bear when one spends one’s life eating Doritos Locos Tacos and trying desperately not to shit oneself.

Of course they were going to vote for The Black Socialist.

Which brings me to the following:

WHERE’S MY FREE SHIT, MR. PRESIDENT?

According to Mitt Romney, you were reelected only because you gave “big gifts” to young voters, blacks, browns, and bitches. At all times, I am at least half of those things — AND YET I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FREE SHIT.

So, Mr. President — IF THAT’S YOUR REAL NAME — I want my free shit, and I want it now.

kthx.

[cross-posted at ABLC]

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113 replies
  1. 1
    Josh G. says:

    I hate to tell you this, Mr. Meyer, but 100 percent of the population receives “some sort of federal aid”.

    Who do you think built the interstate highways you drive on? Who makes sure that mail is delivered regularly? Who provides a legal system that ensures disputes between people and/or businesses can be handled in the courts, rather than with gun battles in the street?

  2. 2
    g says:

    On NPR today I heard a clip of Haley Barbour saying that the reason Romney lost was that Obama ran ads portraying him as an out-of-touch rich guy.

    So apparently, that’s the problem right there. Romney lost because Obama had the bad form to actually campaign.

  3. 3
    JustRuss says:

    …you gave “big gifts” to young voters, blacks, browns, and bitches.

    Crap, and here I am being none of those. Can I get my vote back?

  4. 4
    Calouste says:

    Ron Meyer is the press secretary for American Majority Action. He’s appeared on Fox News, CNN, GBTV, The Mike Huckabee Show, and the Sean Hannity Radio Show, and his work appears frequently in the New York Post, Washington Times, Fox News Nation, CNS News, Christian Science Monitor, Yahoo! News, Human Events, Townhall, and the Daily Caller.
    __
    Before joining the team, Ron was the spokesman for Young America’s Foundation (YAF), which saved the Reagan Ranch in 1998. While at YAF, Ron created the Youth Misery Index with scholar Nathan Harden. Ron began his conservative activism at Principia College in Elsah, Illinois, as the conservative columnist for the Principia Pilot and host of We the People Show on Principia Internet Radio.

    http://americanmajorityaction......ron-meyer/

    Right-wing shill is right-wing shill on wingnut welfare. Anyone surprised?

  5. 5
    Z. Mulls says:

    I think it’s important to point out that three of the last seven losing Presidential Candidates were from Massachussetts.

    It’s quite a percentage.

  6. 6
    Comrade Javamanphil says:

    It’s a good thing nobody below the voting age of 18 receives any federal assistance like food stamps otherwise this idiot’s viewpoint would be even more ridiculous.

  7. 7
    ant says:

    Bush sent out checks to everybody.

    Does that count as “free shit”?

  8. 8
    dantoujours says:

    In a a few months time someone will be asking “How’s that ‘Denigrating those you’ll need to vote for you if you want to win’ thing working out?”

  9. 9
    FlipYrWhig says:

    Matt Taibbi’s iconic image of old people on Medicare-funded mobility scooters ranting about out of control spending on benefits needs to be ground into this Fozzie Bear-lookin’ motherfucker’s chinfuzz. Because those are the shock troops of the Republican Dumbass Insurgency. Powered by generous spending by the big bad gummint.

  10. 10
    Chris says:

    According to Mitt Romney, you were reelected only because you gave “big gifts” to young voters, blacks, browns, and bitches. At all times, I am at least half of those things—AND YET I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY FREE SHIT.

    They’ll say that you were tricked, and that of course he wasn’t ACTUALLY going to give you free shit, but he won by SAYING that he would give you free shit.

  11. 11
    tjmn says:

    The bubble, it is strong in him.

  12. 12
    fuddmain says:

    Republicans have been giving free shit to the rich for some time now, so fuck this guy with a hellfire missile (paid for with my fucking tax money).

  13. 13
    Suffern ACE says:

    Yes. Because all those minor dependents lined up in droves.

  14. 14

    Yeah, turns out if you’re health care plan is “Just go to the Emergency room if you’re sick”, as opposed to “Let’s try and expand the insurance market to cover more people and make it all more affordable” that people realize you’re not that fucking serious about running the government.

    You’re just there to use it to funnel lots of ‘free stuff’ to the financiers who backed your colostomy bag residue of a campaign.

    Now kindly take the free education this nation provided you with and fuck off.

  15. 15
    Chris says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    The sentence “the average Tea Partier is sincerely against government spending, with the exception of the money spent on THEM. In fact, their lack of embarrassment when it comes to collecting government largesse is key to understanding what the movement is all about” is still, to me, one of the best phrases ever written about the movement, or about politics in the age of Obama.

    (Yes, that was two sentences. Bite me).

  16. 16
    Woodrowfan says:

    most of the comments on the original article are as bad as the article.

  17. 17
    FlipYrWhig says:

    I love, for a certain definition of “love,” how the party that stands above all else for tax cuts, i.e. _free money_, is all in a dither about how the other guys are the self-interested cynical ones dishing out no-strings-attached cash.

  18. 18
    JCJ says:

    This is just appalling. As a person who received survivor benefits from Social Security to pay for college and later medical school who is now a 1%er (not Mitt Romney type 1%, but just over the threshold) I find this shit inexcusable. I work with wingnuts who bemoan “Obamacare,” but I recently treated the father-in-law of one of them for laryngeal cancer. He is on Medicaid. A current patient I am treating for rectal cancer was grousing about the health care law – he delayed starting his treatment for nearly a month until he was able to get Medicaid.
    Oh well, as a rich white guy I just want to thank all of the African Americans, Hispanics, single women and all of the other “moochers” for saving the country from the rest of my ilk. It is truly painful to listen so many people I work with when they express their stupidity.

  19. 19
    Yutsano says:

    Is it just me or is the gaydar going into overdrive on this fartknocker?

  20. 20
    lacp says:

    Isn’t there a public restroom somewhere that young Ron should be trolling?

  21. 21

    @ant: No.

    Taking your tax dollars and sending it back to you is simply returning to you what is rightfully yours.

    Taking your tax dollars and providing you with a highly useful service that otherwise wouldn’t be provided to you (like, say… health care coverage for a pre-existing condition) is communist soshalism of the highest order that only a Islamo-nazi Kenyan usurper would do to trick good, God-fearing Americans (who should otherwise know that the proper response to being denied health care coverage is to take up your rifle and go out to die fighing Injuns) into voting for him.

  22. 22
    Brachiator says:

    @g:

    On NPR today I heard a clip of Haley Barbour saying that the reason Romney lost was that Obama ran ads portraying him as an out-of-touch rich guy.

    Because it’s not like Newt or Rick Perry or Santorum ever portrayed Romney as an out-of-touch rich guy.

    And it’s not like the media remarked on stuff like Romney offering to bet Perry a little pocket change, $10,000, over some issue or other.

    Nope. It was that devilish Kenyan and his promises of free stuff that did it.

  23. 23
    pk says:

    Is this some new version of the Southern strategy? Moochers and takers vs the job creators. I wish someone would actually do an analysis of the percentage of republican voters who receive govt assistance. Not that facts will matter to these losers.

  24. 24
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @JCJ: That’s because “Obamacare” doesn’t really mean the actual program, it means “free doctor visits for Negroes and illegals who didn’t earn it with a lifetime of hard work like I did.”

  25. 25
    unspiek says:

    If President Obama’s campaign promised me any “stuff”, I must have missed it. They wanted contributions from me, and got them.

  26. 26
    John Weiss says:

    @Chris: Ahem. The proper name for those morons is ‘Teabagger’. They said so.

  27. 27
    Turgidson says:

    We’ll see how their “the lazy stupid electorate who all want something for nothing disappointed us patriotic hard working Republicans by voting against us because freedom” thing works out in persuading voters over to their point of view.

    And the cognitivie dissonance is pretty amazing too. The party arguing, against all available evidence, that tax cuts create a utopia of prosperity while also closing the deficit – in other words, give us all something for nothing, ranting on about free stuff and gifts. Laughable, man. HAAA HAAA.

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    El Cid says:

    These people can’t imagine doing anything for any reason for other than the most direct, selfish, immediate reward, in the crassest of terms, and doing and saying whatever they need to do to get it.

    Thus they can’t imagine anyone doing anything for any other reason.

    It’s why they vote. It’s how they vote. It’s why they run for office. It’s how they choose who to support.

    But since they deserve anything they can manage to get, no matter how they get it, then it sickens them to imagine that people unlike them who don’t deserve all the stuff which should be theirs might be acting like themselves and voting in order to satisfy their naked greed.

    Romney saw this whole thing as no more than the bullshit sales job he had to give to the intended victims before managing to get approval for a leveraged buyout, and then intended to use his new position as CEO of the USA to reward himself, his funders, and his peers with the ‘stuff’ and ‘things’ he could now get his hands on.

    This is how these people act, this is how they think about things, and therefore it is how they view other people as acting, and how other people think about things, it’s just that those other people are disgusting and inferior and don’t deserve anything. And they think they do.

  29. 29
    Chris says:

    @pk:

    Is this some new version of the Southern strategy? Moochers and takers vs the job creators.

    No. This IS the Southern Strategy. Recall Reagan whining about fictional Cadillac-driving welfare queens in Chicago. Everyone knew who he was talking about.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Comrade Dread:

    Taking your tax dollars and providing you with a highly useful service that otherwise wouldn’t be provided to you (like, say… health care coverage for a pre-existing condition) is communist soshalism of the highest order

    No, taking your tax dollars and providing _you_ with a service is grudgingly acceptable.

    Taking _your_ tax dollars and providing _someone else_ with a service is communism.

    Taking _someone else’s_ tax dollars and providing _you_ with a service is, um, well, in their minds, that apparently never happens.

  31. 31
    gelfling545 says:

    @unspiek: Well, they sent me a bumper sticker. Does that count?

  32. 32
    LanceThruster says:

    I’ll have to admit…trickle down does work! I’m getting so much free shit, I’m pretty much forced to pass some of it along. I’m feeding my cats steak, and once I’m sick of the lobster, I’ll toss a few tails their way.

    I’ve started puttting the surplus plasma TV’s in closets and cupboards so that I don’t miss a moment of my Kenyan socialist field directives coming in over the free satellite.

    The mail carriers (thanks Big Brother!) divert checks and merchandise that would have otherwise gone to Republicans (we know who you are) to me although some of their merchandise is so gaudy I wouldn’t own it on a bet. Not even in kitschy sort of way (their porn is not too bad, but a little too twisted even for my tastes – who knew the market for chicken fucking vids was so vast?).

    Finally! A bubble that will never, ever burst!

  33. 33
    Woodrowfan says:

    of course it’s the Southern Strategy. Read the comments on the site with the original story—the racism is alive and kicking and not at all disguised.

  34. 34
    AA+ Bonds says:

    .
    .
    Owner of 40 Denny’s restaurants to impose 5% surcharge for ObamaCare on customers’ bills

    A Florida restaurateur who operates roughly 40 Denny’s locations and five Hurricane Grill & Wings franchises in Florida, Virginia and Georgia intends to add a 5 percent surcharge to customers’ bills to offset costs from ObamaCare . . . .
    __
    “People are trying to find ways to avoid the penalties and to avoid having to pay for ObamaCare,” John Metz told FoxNews.com. “Everyone’s looking for a way to not have to provide insurance for their employees. It’s essentially a huge tax on all us business people. . . .”
    __
    To further offset the costs, Metz, who oversees roughly 1,200 employees as president and CEO of RREMC Restaurants, LLC, said he also will slash most of the staff’s time to fewer than 30 hours per week. That change will be announced to employees next month, he said.
    __
    “It’s going to be a big issue for all of us — for my employees and for me,” said Metz, who has been in the industry since 1975. “The ones that are working more than 28 hours, they’re going to act as if I’m cutting their hours and they’ll have to find another job.”

  35. 35
    Billy says:

    What has these idiots in a lather is that they have been definitively told, you have to have more than just money to buy an election, you actually have to have some ideas.

    They are not so good on the idea thingie, unless it’s the perpetual gem “tax cuts for the rich create jobs”.

    Which even dumbasses are starting to question.

  36. 36
    Mike G says:

    @Calouste:

    Before joining the team, Ron was the spokesman for Young America’s Foundation (YAF), which saved the Reagan Ranch in 1998.

    YAF have a heavily-funded office near the waterfront in Santa Barbara, where they run creepy tours to the Reagan Ranch for rubes on a pilgrimage to a man who never was the image they project onto him now. Authoritarian-followers love their idolatry.

    They also have a cozy arrangement with the billionaire owner of the local newspaper, where YAF interns work for free as ‘journalists’ and in return the foundation gets lavish front-page articles every time a rightard hack speaks at the foundation or it’s the anniversary of Reagan’s barber’s birthday or somesuch.

  37. 37
    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    According to the USDA, the ten states with the greatest percentage of their populations using food stamps are (In order):
    1. Mississippi
    2. Oregon
    3. Tennessee
    4. New Mexico
    5. Michigan
    6. Louisiana
    7. Kentucky
    8. West Virginia
    9. Maine
    10. South Carolina

    Source

    If all 47 million food stamp recipients voted for President Obama, it would account for 75.4 percent of Obama’s 62.3 million votes.

    The Republicans had best square away those stealth-bastard Obama voters in Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, and South Carolina ASAP.

  38. 38
    AA+ Bonds says:

    I am still SMH that Democrats completely missed the entire ascent of this narrative to dominance on the right – creeping Communism through people who are nefariously satisfied with government services – until it was advanced by the Republican presidential candidate

    None of these people are echoing Romney; Romney was trying desperately to echo them, and much of Republican politics since 2009 at least has been built around this idea, which means that Democrats haven’t done a great job of grasping the reality of Republican politics for years

    Y’all are still absolutely ruled by the mainstream media and you need to lift yourself off your 2012 laurels

  39. 39
    Paul in KY says:

    @g: I kept calling Rmoney ‘Scrooge McDuck’. I don’t think he could sue me for libel either.

  40. 40
    AA+ Bonds says:

    FWIW I remember coming on here in 2010 and talking about that narrative in the context of Phyllis Schafly and everyone barely took time out of hand-wringing about the election that they were about to lose to tell me that it totally didn’t matter what Republicans had to say to the people who then went into the booth and voted the Democrats out

  41. 41
    Paul in KY says:

    @FlipYrWhig: Around Central KY, I see 3 or 4 big fat slobs (look to be in late 40s – early 50s) riding around on those things daily. I just shake my head.

    I’m talking 5’7″ and north of 330 lbs.

  42. 42
    Cassidy says:

    @AA+ Bonds: It’s so cute when you think you’re the only person who gets something like you have some sort of special insight….like all the folks who crowd FOX News conspiracy theory boards and think they are privy to super secwet knowledge.

  43. 43
    AA+ Bonds says:

    @Cassidy:

    It’s not particularly cute when you don’t go to those places to figure out what the opposition is doing and as a result, look stupid compared to me of all people

    Your problem may be that you have trouble relating to your fellow human beings, who also populate those message boards; it takes a level of empathy to understand how their messaging works and I would hope that liberals view empathy as a potential (if unrealized) strength of theirs

  44. 44
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @AA+ Bonds: What exactly are you congratulating yourself about now? Republicans have been saying that Democrats are a bunch of negro-loving commies for about 50 years. Everyone knows this. Nobody missed it. It’s 96% of what drives their party. The remainder is Baybeez (3%) and Rich People (1%).

  45. 45
    Paul in KY says:

    @AA+ Bonds: That should get them flocking into Dennys. Hee hee!

  46. 46
    lacp says:

    @AA+ Bonds: You mean the Republicans actually won the election we just had? I’ll be damned.

  47. 47
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @AA+ Bonds: Your sooper-seekrit insight appears to be that you realized — in the year two thousand and fucking nine — that Republicans think Democrats are on welfare. Psst, here’s a hot tip for next time. In 2015, some Republican is going to imply that French people are wussies.

  48. 48
    LAC says:

    He looks like he glued his pube hair to his face.

  49. 49
    IowaOldLady says:

    Wow. They open their mouths, words fall out, and it turns out they are exactly who we thought they were.

  50. 50
    LAC says:

    @AA+ Bonds: And you need to lift up your hindquarters and give your brain a chance to breathe. Or go on “mastermind” specializing in the bleedin’ obvious.

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    I noted at the time (2010) that this was a notable and racially-tinged shift in the Republican message: it wasn’t that government programs were inefficient, and the argument wasn’t even that they fooled people into becoming dependent on government – this was replaced by the message that the government is very good at giving very bad people what they want and thus very bad people would vote in Democrats eternally if we reached a point of majority Democratic support, which would then collapse the country; the implications about who should breed and who shouldn’t were no longer implications but stated positions

    It had a lot of “welfare queen” overtones but it was notably different in its ardent “tipping point” chiliasm, the sort of Randist prophesying about America’s imminent doom that used to stay behind the scenes – it signified important Republicans abandoning any and all hope of appealing to Democratic-leaning groups and began the production of new language of quasi-materialist, even pseudo-Marxist critique of social democracy

  52. 52
    Chris says:

    @AA+ Bonds:

    Yep… I’ve been reading this meme, right down to the now-obsolete 47% number, for years on right-wing blogs. It is, indeed, him echoing his base and not the other way around.

  53. 53
    Cassidy says:

    @AA+ Bonds: So, since you have such special knowledge, tell me Sifu, do the Republicans still venerate Reagan? Are women who use birth control still sluts? Are gay people still evil and icky? Are blah people less than white people? Are only rural Americans the “Real Americans”? Do they still want their country back? Is bat boy still alive? Has Elvis appearred on a cheezy poof yet?

    Please tell us.

  54. 54
    AA+ Bonds says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    That’s not what I said, though – it just makes you feel better because what you said is something you already knew and it feels better to think that you knew about this all along

    Trust me, I know the feeling, but you have to get over it

  55. 55
    AA+ Bonds says:

    @Cassidy:

    And this is the problem: you think that you already know everything because it is more comfortable to believe that any subtle variation, any hard-to-detect but important shift in circumstances can be easily reduced to things you already know

    This doesn’t help you learn

  56. 56
    AA+ Bonds says:

    @Chris:

    Yep… I’ve been reading this meme, right down to the now-obsolete 47% number, for years on right-wing blogs. It is, indeed, him echoing his base and not the other way around.

    Thank you for taking the time to do the reading – no sarcasm, it really helps everyone when that happens.

    In 2011, I think it was . . . maybe a Bill Flax column? that seemed to get everyone on the specific percentage of “46.4%” as distorted from a Tax Policy Center report.

  57. 57
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @AA+ Bonds: “Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people’s money.”

    Margaret Thatcher, 1976.

    “Two centuries ago, a somewhat obscure Scotsman named Tytler made this profound observation: ‘A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.'”

    Daily Oklahoman, 1951.

  58. 58
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @AA+ Bonds: You are one weird dude.

  59. 59
    Cassidy says:

    @AA+ Bonds: These people aren’t hard to grasp. You didn’t say anything in 2010 that no one else didn’t realize. Maybe it wasn’t as important to them as it was to you, but if you really think you’re some sort of poltical Nostradamus ebcause you didn’t want to talk about the same topic as everyone else, then your ego is directly inverse to your self awareness.

  60. 60
    ciotog says:

    I was an election judge last week. The Republican election judge I worked next to was unemployed, with a disabled child, and on food stamps. She was heading to an election party that night. I’m assuming she was disappointed, though the results were certainly better for her personal situation.

  61. 61
    Lurking Canadian says:

    I think I’ve finally figured out the whining. Since 1980, the Republicans have been running, and winning, on Reagan’s statement that government is always the problem and always makes things worse.

    Then, here comes Obama, who had the cast-iron balls to run on the idea that sometimes, the government can do goo stuff. And it worked. The wingnuts just can’t wrap their heads around te thought that the US just repudiated Reagan. Hence te freakout.

  62. 62
    shortstop says:

    If citizens vote in their own personal, short-term interests, with 49 percent of the population receiving some sort of federal aid, Republicans will never win another election. Thankfully many of those 49 percent are elderly voters who want a bright, debt-free future for their children.

    And recognition of the pure and really unbelievably moving selflessness of elderly voters is what inspired the GOP to propose turning Medicare into a voucher system right here, right now, instead of exempting the old fol…wait, what?

  63. 63
    roc says:

    And so the right continues it’s fight within itself, over whether it wants to abet the hate caucus or actually win elections.

    I’m absolutely certain that the Tea Party side of the GOP is pushing this “Obama won with urbans and gifts” meme explicitly to counter the grumblings among their own party about whether or not they should let up on hating the browns, gays, poors, etc.

    On the plus side, this has definitively answered the question of whether Romney was a Tea Party guy all along, or pandering. Because he doesn’t need their votes anymore, or ever again, but he’s still carrying their water.

  64. 64
    gwangung says:

    You know….Asian Americans have never been accused of wanting “stuff.”

    Funny, though. They broke for Obama in slightly higher numbers than Hispanics.

    Kinda hard to call Asian Americans moochers or takers. But they HAVE called them smart.

    Draw your own conclusions.

  65. 65
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Cassidy: That’s not fair. Personally, I remember telling everyone in earshot in 2011 that Republicans didn’t like it when they had to push “1” for English. I mean, wow, how did y’all miss that?

  66. 66
    Cassidy says:

    @FlipYrWhig: I was too busy talking about the new Nickelback album.

    Don’t look at me like that. You can all claim to hate Nickelback as much as you want, but there is not one single person here who doesn’t sing along when it comes on in your car.

  67. 67
    LanceThruster says:

    @JCJ:

    I just want to thank all of the African Americans, Hispanics, single women and all of the other “moochers” for saving the country from the rest of my ilk. It is truly painful to listen so many people I work with when they express their stupidity.

    I love the way you phrased this and fully agree with the sense of gratitude. I’m of the white guy block not in the 1% that doesn’t by into the melanin separatist movement trying to con me into voting aginst my own interest.

    It’s like that old labor maxim, “An injury to one…” I don’t see it as a bad thing when other of my countrymen do well, it gives me greater confidence based on our mutual prosperity. But that is in no way the attitude of “I’ve got mine.” That’s pretty much the opposite.

    How do we start a “Hug a Hero of the Republic” campaign?

  68. 68
    flukebucket says:

    Poor Mitt found himself in a common conundrum. What do you give to the people who already have everything?

  69. 69
    danimal says:

    I’m white, male, middle-aged and employed. And I don’t get, nor want, much “stuff” from the federal goverment.

    But, damn, I want first dibs on one of those ‘death panels’ slots the Kenyan Usurper is forming.

  70. 70
    LanceThruster says:

    @flukebucket:

    What do you give to the people who already have everything?

    And besides, you can’t have everything…where would you put it?

    (h/t Stephen Wright)

  71. 71
    Chris says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    “Two centuries ago, a somewhat obscure Scotsman named Tytler made this profound observation: ‘A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.’”

    The awesome thing about that quote is that it’s essentially conservatives telling you “we don’t believe in democracy, either in the sense that it’s morally right or that it’s technically possible.”

    The subtext “and it’s really time we got rid of that silly system and went back to one where You Fucking Peons Do What Your Betters Tell You To For Your Own Good” isn’t even much of a subtext when it’s blared as loudly as that.

  72. 72
    flukebucket says:

    Take a look at the guy and tell me he does not look like a child molesting youth minister.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Chris:

    No. This IS the Southern Strategy. Recall Reagan whining about fictional Cadillac-driving welfare queens in Chicago. Everyone knew who he was talking about.

    It’s no longer particularly Southern, and it is certainly not much of a strategy.

    Trying to connect dots to Reagan or Lee Atwater doesn’t really get you anywhere.

    Asian Americans, for example, overwhelmingly voted for Obama. Maybe this was Asian solidarity with Obama’s Indonesian roots.

    Obama got around 70 percent of the Asian American vote. Not a lot of Cadillac driving welfare queens here, no matter how the wingnuts try to bend stereotypes around this.

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    graves007 says:

    Let these losers stay in their bubble of delusion. As long as they keep whining and crying away about who’s fault it is that they lost instead of respecting the democracy that fed them a juicy shit sandwich with a side of haha you assholes, they will continue to lose more and more ground until their delusional nonsense is relegated to the shitter of history where it belongs.

    America voted for reason over delusion. Deal with it you fucking whiners. You can start by getting all 2nd amendment on each other.

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    ...now I try to be amused says:

    @Chris:
    Shorter wingnuts:

    “Obama fooled his base better than we fooled ours! How dare he?”

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    Chris says:

    @Brachiator:

    Nitpick:

    It’s no longer particularly Southern

    It never was, as I and someone else discussed just yesterday or the day before – Irish, Italian, Polish, Greek and other traditionally Democratic “ethnic white” voters in New York, Boston, Chicago, Detroit and elsewhere were just as much a target as Dixiecrats for Nixon and Reagan.

    Anyways – it’s certainly not much of a strategy anymore, but it’s what they’ve always gone for. “Democrats promise too much to These People.”

    And I’d say Asians and other constituencies have drifted away largely because that message has risen to a deafening roar that makes them all fairly worried that even if conservatives are focusing on blacks and Mexicans, anyone “other” can be next. Like, say, Muslim Americans, who despite their many years of loyally voting Republican were run out of the party on a rail after 9/11 made Islamophobic populism convenient for the right.

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    Kristin says:

    @AA+ Bonds: Now, no one can afford to eat out. These idiots are the worst business people ever.

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    Tone in DC says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    (spews moar soda, ruining monitor)
    Dammit.

    Fozzie Bear?? More like Doogie Howser.

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    wenchacha says:

    I want some motherfucking ice tea.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    Thank goodness Romneybot lost. Can you imagine the gloating we moochers, Blacks, Browns, women folks, etc., would be enduring had he won?

    All that racism, sexism, homophobia would have triumphed.

    Let the Rethugs sit down for the next 4 years and figure out how they’re going to get enough votes now that their White Racist base is shrinking.

    Wonder when they’ll turn to violence as they realize that they’re not going to win again.

    They’re idiots and don’t deserve to be anywhere near the White House.

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    Woodrowfan says:

    @AA+ Bonds: @Kristin:

    And he’ll probably lose his most experience people who’ll go work for other restaurants. Was it Circuit City that decided to cut costs by firing all of their experienced workers, then wondered why their sales dropped to the point that they went belly up?

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    hitchhiker says:

    Here’s his problem right here:

    In fact, conservatives should take heart that this election was as close as it turned out. It means that at least some of those receiving federal aid are open to conservative anti-poverty ideas.

    There aren’t any conservative anti-poverty ideas. Conservatives don’t have to bother with anti-poverty ideas because it’s their deep conviction that poverty is just a manifestation of laziness. Therefore shame and contempt are their standard response to poverty.

    I don’t think they should take heart at all. I think they’re fucked, and I say that while doing the happy dance at my desk.

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    Woodrowfan says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Wonder when they’ll turn to violence as they realize that they’re not going to win again.

    I’m surprised they haven’t already, aside from some drunker frat boys in Mississippi and Virginia.

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    Greyjoy says:

    So Obama’s campaign strategy was to tell everyone Mitt Romney’s an out-of-touch rich guy, and Mitt’s campaign strategy was to tell everyone Obama’s a black guy. And yet Mitt’s surprised that HIS message was the loser.

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    ...now I try to be amused says:

    @Woodrowfan:

    Was it Circuit City that decided to cut costs by firing all of their experienced workers, then wondered why their sales dropped to the point that they went belly up?

    Yep.

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    johnny aquitard says:

    @Woodrowfan: Shit attracts flies. Here’s another proboscis on that shit pile, regurgitating as it feeds:

    “Simple, amend the Constitution. You may only vote if you own land or a business. Why do we allow worthless welfare people to raid the candy store every two years? If you do not contribute to the GNP, you shall not vote. Retired workers would of course be exempt because they have earned it. People in the armed forces, police and fire shall get two votes each, other government workers will be allowed 1/2 vote each.”

    These people do not want a democracy.

    I’d wager that asshat is retired since he gave retirees a moral exemption to receiving free stuff, and he probably worked in government, since he allowed even parasites like postal workers half a vote. (I’d bet $10,000 he doesn’t consider public school teachers to be government workers). All in all I’d say he’s a retired vet, since he’s so generous with giving those groups extra slices of the pie. That fits with his handle of remington223. That’s the commercial designation for the NATO 5.56mm cartridge — he’s civilian 5.56mm. Dude is likely one of those AR gun nuts and secessionist — those go together like, well, flies and shit. Also too, I recall the confederates had this tendency to treat certain kinds of people as worth fractional votes.

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    Bob h says:

    I want a top rate of 15% on my income, and the freedom to reduce it to zero using abusive avoidance schemes.

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    Woodrowfan says:

    @johnny aquitard: I saw that one. And it wasn’t even the worst of the lot!!! For people who obsessively go on and on about how much they love freedom, they sure don’t like it in practice.

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    burnspbesq says:

    “Well, you can’t have that, but if you’re an American citizen you are entitled to …”

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    Chris says:

    @johnny aquitard:

    Simple, amend the Constitution. You may only vote if you own land or a business.

    Give them their due, they really DO want to go back to the time of the Founding Fathers. (Well, at least in that respect. I doubt if they’d pay any attention to their admonitions against mixing church and state, or against “going overseas in search of monsters to destroy.” Or the meaning of the phrase “well regulated militia.” Or the fourth, fifth, sixth, eighth or ninth amendments).

    This is also why the cult of the Founding Fathers in our culture so tiresome and why the Deep Space Nine phrase “the Founders are not gods” comes to mind at least once a week when reading politics.

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    Felonius Monk says:

    Free shit for thee and free shit for me. Is it time to march on Washington for our free shit? I think so.

    I really do not understand these ass-clown statements that people (and I use the term loosely) like this Meyer character make. On the one hand they are horrified that the “moochers” are breeding like rabbits; and on the other hand are adamantly opposed to abortion and contraception. These are kind of mutually exclusive outcomes. When they finally wake up to this fact, watch out — they will probably demand forced sterilization of anyone applying for food stamps and other benefits.

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    Greyjoy says:

    @Woodrowfan: Yes, it was Circuit City, and not only did they fire their top performing salespeople as a ‘cost-cutting measure’, but they gave the same amount of cash that they ostensibly saved as an extra bonus to their outgoing CFO. Brilliant, right?

    The problem with these business types is that they think they’re entitled to our money and patronage. They think we’re a captive audience and that we *must* spend our money there, so that if they jack up prices for some stupid reason, then we have no choice but to fall in line. They can’t conceive that we can simultaneously vote for Obamacare AND not eat their pancakes. Dear business-owners: You need to convince us, the population, why we should go to your place. You do not tell us what hoops *we* have to jump through to be granted the privilege of your business.

    I mean, seriously…Denny’s? That’s what we’re supposed to care about? In Florida, as if there aren’t Waffle Houses, Dunkin Donuts and other breakfast-food purveyors on almost literally every corner? Which means that not only could the customers go anywhere for the same quality of food, but the employees could go anywhere for the same job. Is this guy trying to go out of business on purpose?

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    Hungry Joe says:

    So this is how they’re going to entice voters to their side — with more of the same?

    One of my favorite lines EVER was uttered by a guy in the school-bus-driver certification class I took many (many) years ago. Teacher was a Calif. Highway Patrol officer, who on Day One explained that school bus drivers have to be CHP certified. One guy said, “But I already have a job driving for a private school, and I don’t have a certificate.” The officer said, “Well, all I can tell you is, cease and desist.” The guy said, “Is there any way I could I get in trouble for this?” And the guy behind him said, “Keep talkin’, chump.”

    That’s kind of how I’m feeling about the GOP: Keep talkin’, chumps.

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    LanceThruster says:

    @wenchacha:

    Motherfucking win.

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    Greyjoy says:

    So this is how they’re going to entice voters to their side—with more of the same?

    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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    LanceThruster says:

    @Hungry Joe:

    That’s kind of how I’m feeling about the GOP: Keep talkin’, chumps.

    Please proceed.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    I’m sure this has already been said a million times, but I love how voting to continue food stamps is “short-term” thinking but voting to continue massive, unaffordable tax cuts somehow is not.

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    Chris says:

    @johnny aquitard:

    Also,

    These people do not want a democracy.

    This is why it’s SOOOOOO funny when you hear them scream like stuck pigs that “the people didn’t vote for Obamacare!” or “the South should’ve had a referendum on civil rights!” – or even when they complain about liberal elitists being out of touch with “mainstream America.”

    It’s so transparent.

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    cosima says:

    Will those of us who kept our 18-26 yr old children on our insurance be getting refunds? Because I’m missing the part where keeping our daughter on our insurance was free. The thought of her not having insurance is pretty awful vs. paying each month to add her to our family coverage through my husband’s employer, and we feel pretty fortunate to have that option.

    Next year we move to the UK where we will be covered on NHS,our youngest will be covered on NHS,and we will be paying $10,000+ annually for our daughter to be covered here. Sure will be glad when that free Obamacare kicks in, do we have to wait until 2014?

    How anyone can begrudge someone health care is beyond me. I am so sick of these GOP fu$%^rs. Socialism here I come!

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Cassidy:

    If Nickelback ever comes on in my car, I’m calling the cops, because somebody else has been driving it.

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    ...now I try to be amused says:

    @burnspbesq:

    “Well, you can’t have that, but if you’re an American citizen you are entitled to …”

    Ha! I suspect most of us will get only a baby’s arm holding an apple.

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    LanceThruster says:

    @Chris:


    The awesome thing about that quote is that it’s essentially conservatives telling you “we don’t believe in democracy, either in the sense that it’s morally right or that it’s technically possible.”

    The subtext “and it’s really time we got rid of that silly system and went back to one where You Fucking Peons Do What Your Betters Tell You To For Your Own Good” isn’t even much of a subtext when it’s blared as loudly as that.

    King Arthur: I am your king.
    Woman: Well I didn’t vote for you.
    King Arthur: You don’t vote for kings.
    Woman: Well how’d you become king then?
    [Angelic music plays… ]
    King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king.
    Dennis: [interrupting] Listen, strange women lyin’ in ponds distributin’ swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

    Dennis: Oh, but you can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.

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    Svensker says:

    @wenchacha:

    You Harlem folks are all alike.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @…now I try to be amused:

    Rats! I wanted the solid gold Third Reich swizzle stick.

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    Greyjoy says:

    So…vote for Obama, get cool swag. Vote for Romney, waste billions of dollars on Karl Rove’s SuperPAC, which apparently wasn’t even properly registered and can’t explain what they spent the money on. Yeah, no wonder the Republicans are pissed.

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    johnny aquitard says:

    @Lurking Canadian:

    the government can do goo stuff

    Goo stuff, eh?

    1)Is that a canuckistan-only thing, and 2) is it free? ‘Cause I want free stuff, and I have to be able to find it at Walmarts here. I ain’t drivin all the way to Moose Jaw or fuckin’ Saskatchewan for it, free nor not.

    The wingnuts just can’t wrap their heads around te thought that the US just repudiated Reagan.

    They haven’t even got there yet, they’re heads are still asploding because a black guy is running their lives. But yeah, you’re right, a majority of the US finally buried Ronnie’s corpse.

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    johnny aquitard says:

    @Chris:

    Give them their due, they really DO want to go back to the time of the Founding Fathers. (Well, at least in that respect. I doubt if they’d pay any attention to their admonitions against mixing church and state, or against “going overseas in search of monsters to destroy.”

    I will not give them any due whatsoever, because they really DON’T want to go back to the time of the Founding Fathers. As you pointed out what they really want isn’t going to be found there.

    Edit: Sorry, you were being snarky about giving them their due, right? I hope so.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @AA+ Bonds: I’d bet that some of the customers wouldn’t mind the surcharge for health insurance for the employees. But cutting their hours is reprehensible. F***king prick.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Chris:

    And I’d say Asians and other constituencies have drifted away largely because that message has risen to a deafening roar that makes them all fairly worried that even if conservatives are focusing on blacks and Mexicans, anyone “other” can be next. Like, say, Muslim Americans, who despite their many years of loyally voting Republican were run out of the party on a rail after 9/11 made Islamophobic populism convenient for the right.

    This is going beyond focusing on the next group as “the other.” Bill O’Reilly spilled the racial anxiety beans.

    Fox News host Bill O’Reilly went on a solemn rant tonight as early election results started pouring in, and he sounded as if he was already ready to blame Republican Mitt Romney for a loss based on early returns and exit polls.
    __
    He also gave this explanation as to why he thought Obama would win:
    __
    “Obama wins because it’s not a traditional America anymore. The white establishment is the minority. People want things.”

    This is about more than phoney BS about makers vs takers. You have the explicit idea that only white people should be allowed to rule. To hell with the melting pot, or even assimilation. Nonwhites can be docile followers, but never leaders. And the preference is that the leader be a strong, Anglo Saxon male.

    You saw this with some of the Tea Party wet dreams of an America as it existed around 1850, before even dusky European immigrants and the crazy Irish began coming over in relatively huge numbers.

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    Brachiator says:

    It will be interesting to see if the GOP continues to cling to their stupidity. I know they hate numbers, but if you graph the Latino voter demographic demographic, the trend line looks very, very, very, bad:

    The [Latino] numbers we saw for Romney were really among the worst numbers for a Republican candidate. And the most important point is that if you compare it to 2004 – that was only eight years ago – George W. Bush got 40 percent. Then it went down to 31 percent for McCain, then it went down to 24 for Romney. So that means consecutive years of losing seven points, eight points, of the Latino vote. I think that’s the more worrisome trend for Republicans, because it wasn’t so long ago that we got 40 percent.

    But hey, the GOP can keep insulting Latinos and other groups, and continue their delusion that it’s just promising free shit that’s the problem.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Brachiator:

    “Obama wins because it’s not a traditional America anymore. The white establishment is the minority. People want things.”

    And that’s really the point, isn’t it? All of those scary minorities now expect to be treated the same as white people and be allowed to compete for college and jobs on an equal basis.

    Little Madison or Tyler can’t expect to get an automatic hand up just because they’re middle-class and white. Now they’re going to have to compete for it like everyone else, and some folks just can’t accept that.

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    Greyjoy says:

    I wouldn’t be including Little Madison in there, as long as the national argument is about why we need insurance to cover birth control, why we should have access to birth control and reproductive care in the first place, or whether we still need to define rape or have laws against domestic violence.

    Assuming Madison is the girl. It could just as easily be Tyler. *heh*

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