College Football Open Thread

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115 replies
  1. 1
    quannlace says:

    When I saw the word ‘football’ in the title, knew it had to be Cole’s thread.

  2. 2
    Mark S. says:

    One of the top four unbeatens is going to lose today. Either Kansas St. or Notre Dame.

  3. 3
    Corner Stone says:

    Oh and BTW…
    COCKS!!

  4. 4
    Mark S. says:

    @Corner Stone:

    C’mon, this is a football thread.

  5. 5
    The Dangerman says:

    @Mark S.:

    Either Kansas St. or Notre Dame.

    I think we can all agree to be Boston College fans today. If ND wins, I figure USC will take them down (Kiffin’s seat is getting quite warm).

    Also, Oregon, if it comes out flat after trashing the Trojans (well done, lads), could have problems at Cal.

  6. 6
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    My fighting fashion nightmares had better not be flat down in Berkeley. No looking ahead. One thing they’ve done well so far this season.

    The local fishwrap should be banned in the locker room, lest the Ducks start believing that shit and set themselves up for a fall.

  7. 7
    Corner Stone says:

    @Mark S.: What do you mean? Like football isn’t always the symbolic manifestation of the homoerotic struggle for acceptance where gaining territory equals visibility and points scored are legislative victories gained after strategic execution of an overarching gameplan?
    Or…is that just me?

  8. 8
    Corner Stone says:

    Oh, and not for nothing but Bieber is single again and all you shrill harpies stay the fuck outta my way!

  9. 9
    John O says:

    Always nice to see MI go down in the Big House. Go ‘Cats! The little school that could and often does.

  10. 10
    cathyx says:

    @Corner Stone: And the chance to wear tight form fitting clothes.

  11. 11
    blingee says:

    HaHa!

    Arija Meiers ‏@arijameiers
    @JamesCarville Excellent! Churchill paraphrase -Never have so few, Spent so much, to affect so little. #GOP #FAIL

  12. 12
    phantomist says:

    @John O:

    Uh oh!

  13. 13
    srv says:

    Obama wins FL. 332 to 206.

    Smells like a MANDATE this morning.

  14. 14
    Yutsano says:

    Well number 9 is down. Who’s next?

  15. 15
    Ben W says:

    58-50 Georgia Tech ahead of NC starting the 4th. Not much defense. Go Jackets!

  16. 16
    Corner Stone says:

    @Ben W:

    Not much defense.

    To make that kind of understatement, you sir, must have a solid English familial history.

  17. 17
    dww44 says:

    @srv: Perhaps a mandate to impeach, as this from that Ace of Spaces guy’s blog that everyone’s linked to re the ORCA fail seems to be supporting.

    November 10, 2012
    FBI Agents “Outraged” That Compromised CIA Director Was Left In Place For Months, To Avoid Political Problems Impeachment is a matter of time. I realize that will be unsuccessful, as far as removal from office. But at some point you have to make the point.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334839.php

    Didn’t take long, did it?

  18. 18
    Corner Stone says:

    @Yutsano:

    Well number 9 is down. Who’s next?

    Number 6?

  19. 19
    blingee says:

    @srv: Or as Dick Morris would say. It was a ‘squeaker’.

  20. 20
    blingee says:

    @dww44: Get used to it. Next time Obama is seen asking for Dijon on his burger they will be calling for impeachment. That’s all they got left.

  21. 21
    Ben Franklin says:

    Marcy Wheeler on Petraeus….

    Many have said there is more to this story than the emails. Could it have something to do with Benghazi?

    http://www.emptywheel.net/

  22. 22
    Ben W says:

    @Corner Stone: I’m shooting for Hemingwayesque.

  23. 23
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @dww44:

    Oh, it’s pure fucking BS. Coverup, my ass. If you want a coverup, you need go no further than the total lack of outrage on the right at the treatment of Valerie Plame.

    The hypocrisy of the wingtards. We’re soaking in it.

  24. 24
    Maude says:

    @Ben Franklin:
    Ah, many have said. That sounds familiar.

  25. 25
    Xan Miller says:

    My first post here…I couldn’t resist the temptation to vent.

    God-damned Northwestern! If the games were 58 minutes long, they’d be undefeated.

    Beating Michigan at Michigan would have capped a perfect week. Oh well, at least my political team won.

  26. 26
    M31 says:

    This is very fun: go to Mitt Romney’s facebook page:

    https://www.facebook.com/mittromney?fref=ts

    and every time you refresh he’s lost 10s or 100s of followers.

    It’s awesome, because as far as I can tell you have to actively click ‘unlike’ to defriend the page. HAHAHAHAHA

  27. 27
    MikeJ says:

    @M31: most of those friends were probably paid for, just like his twitter followers.

  28. 28
    Evolving Deep Southerner says:

    Holy shit, TAMU’s taking it to the mighty Crimson Tide. 14-0 with eight minutes left in the first quarter.

    I really should not be cheering for TAMU as a UGA fan. It would be better for my team if the Tide was undefeated in the SEC Championship Game (yes, I’m looking past Auburn) but DAMN, it’s hard not to cheer for them. Even if I am good and sick of hearing about Manziel.

  29. 29
    Thlayli says:

    Eers defense not looking good against Oklahoma State.

  30. 30
    Evolving Deep Southerner says:

    @MikeJ: If they were paid for, though, they’d stick around. Unless they decided to give Mitt the same treatment he gave his aides on cab fare right after the concession speech.

  31. 31
    MikeJ says:

    @Evolving Deep Southerner: Indeed, this is central to my point.

  32. 32
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Evolving Deep Southerner:

    Oh please, please, please.

    Coupled with losses by Kstate and that disgusting school in South Bend.

  33. 33
    jwb says:

    @Evolving Deep Southerner: I thought they were mostly bots, in which case it means the bots are revolting.

  34. 34
    The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik says:

    God. After starting so fast, WVU isn’t even bowl eligible, and it looks like they won’t be this week either. Jesus, guys…

  35. 35
    Yutsano says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: GO HORNED FROGS!!

    I was offered a near full ride to TCU, which I was fine with until I read they had an Honour Code. Yeah, no Christian schools for me!

  36. 36
    Ben Franklin says:

    @Maude:

    Ah, many have said

    Heh. I realize how that sounds, now. No I’m not talking about the Benghazi Squeegees mopping up their saliva. I’m sorry I couldn’t find a link, but it’s not contra-Obama. It’s more about CIA.

  37. 37
    John O says:

    Go Texas A&M? Weird day.

  38. 38
    Corner Stone says:

    Damn. TAMU doing their best to stick it into Bama early.

  39. 39
    Mark S. says:

    @Mark S.:

    One of the top four unbeatens is going to lose today. Either Kansas St. or Notre Dame. It might even be Alabama.

    Comment edited to take into account events on the ground.

  40. 40
    MikeJ says:

    @jwb:

    I thought they were mostly bots, in which case it means the bots are revolting.

    According to Wired,

    The company found that 31.7 percent of Romney’s followers were fake accounts, called bots, that were created by software programs. For Obama, the percentage is 42.6 percent.

    However, Obama has 22M followers and Romney has 1.7M. Which puts Obama at 13M humans and Romeny at 1.2M.

    However, the bots that follow Obama aren’t paid bots. They’re commercial enterprises that follow everyone in hopes of getting followed back. We know that at least 100k of Romney’s were paid for.

  41. 41
    Corner Stone says:

    I love how the announcers before TAMU v Bama were talking about no INTs for McCarron is xyz span.
    It’s kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy because after you reach a point, the announcers make note of it every game. So, eventually the QB is going to toss one or more INTs.
    But anytime they start whacking it to the no INT stat I start expecting a multiple INT game.

  42. 42
    Corner Stone says:

    Johnny Football for TAMU is about 5’8″ and 140lb.
    If he’s 6’1″ I will eat Bear Bryant’s fucking hat.

  43. 43
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Maude:

    I actually wouldn’t be surprised if the CIA screwed up and is now desperately spinning to try and cover their asses. It’s kind of what they do. But I’m also very sure that Darrell Issa isn’t going to be the one to figure out what actually happened.

  44. 44
    efgoldman says:

    @Mark S.:

    One of the top four unbeatens is going to lose today. Either Kansas St. or Notre Dame.

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Coupled with losses by Kstate and that disgusting school in South Bend.

    Y’all do know, don’t you, that BC is 2-7, and the wins were against a bad Maryland team, and 1AA Maine, right? And I have no rooting interest.
    Thing I can’t figure out: Why is this game the feature of the evening on ABC? Or is it just regional in New England.

    Also too: Texas A&M just missed a PAT, but is still 20-0 over ‘Bama.

  45. 45
    The Dangerman says:

    Has Crimson Tide been reading too much press? LSU letdown? Aggie QB is lighting up Alabama. 20-0, wow.

    Sweet justice since they should have lost last week.

  46. 46
    Ben Franklin says:

    @Maude:

    Petraeus to take the fall.

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroo.....-benghazi/

  47. 47
    efgoldman says:

    @The Dangerman:

    Aggie QB is lighting up Alabama. 20-0

    A&M keeps trying that arm-tackling shit on D, not for long.

  48. 48
    JPL says:

    @Ben Franklin: Who calls the FBI because they are fearful for their life? link

    It actually might not have anything to do with Libya although that does sound like a CIA mess up…

  49. 49
    Maude says:

    @Ben Franklin:
    Oops, sorry. I don’t often get out of the boat. Marcy is usually good. She was great during the Bush years.
    Will read the wired.
    My excuse is that I had a bad queasy time on the bus and am…no, that won’t work.
    A Martian came down and…

  50. 50
    Felonius Monk says:

    @Ben Franklin: The nutjobs on the right are already pissing a steady stream of conspiracy theories on Petraeus’ resignation and now we have to have them coming from the firebaggers on the left also?

  51. 51
    Ben Franklin says:

    @JPL:

    I feel badly for Petraeus. Even though he got too much credit for Petraeus Doctrine, a flawed strategy arising out of an even greater Cluster, he is an honorable man.

  52. 52
    Hill Dweller says:

    @Ben Franklin:

    I feel badly for Petraeus. Even though he got too much credit for Petraeus Doctrine, a flawed strategy arising out of an even greater Cluster, he is an honorable man.

    Assumes facts not in evidence.

  53. 53
    Maude says:

    @Ben Franklin:
    I read it. I read about Blue Mountain.
    This isn’t about Bengazi. It’s about emails being read on his computer when he wasn’t there. I say it’s about poor judgement.
    DIA is usually at State places abroad.

  54. 54
    efgoldman says:

    @Felonius Monk:

    The nutjobs on the right are already pissing a steady stream of conspiracy theories on Petraeus’ resignation….

    What kind of “conspiracy” is a powerful man having a little something on the side?
    Unless its the unspoken conspiracy of powerful men who forget what part is supposed to do the thinking.

  55. 55
    Mnemosyne says:

    @JPL:

    Who calls the FBI because they are fearful for their life?

    If you’re getting death threats via e-mail, the FBI is in charge of investigating that — your local cops don’t have the jurisdiction.

    It’s starting to sound like the reason Petraeus had to resign is not that he was cheating on his wife, but that he was cheating on his mistress, too.

    ETA: Who was that buddy of Giuliani’s who went to jail for corruption because he was skimming 9/11 funds? He got busted for that because his mistress was pissed off that he had a second girlfriend at the same time, so she turned him in. I can’t remember if Judith Regan was the mistress or the second GF, but she was definitely screwing him.

  56. 56
    Ben Franklin says:

    @Felonius Monk:

    As you know, POTUS has little control over daily operations of CIA. It’s about them.

    The emails may have been the linchpin, as it is serious from the standpoint of extortion and blackmail, but as was said above, why was FBI called in?

  57. 57
    JPL says:

    @Mnemosyne: So is his other mistress in Benghazi?
    Sorry I just had to go there.

  58. 58
    Maude says:

    @Ben Franklin:
    lamb35 has a bit on it in the nog thread.

  59. 59
    burnspbesq says:

    @The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik:

    WVU isn’t even bowl eligible

    And Duke is. How does that feel?

  60. 60
    JPL says:

    @Ben Franklin: Look at Mnemosyne’s response to me at 55.. The person could have called local police first…

  61. 61
    Ben Franklin says:

    @Hill Dweller:

    JMHO, FWIW.

  62. 62
    Ben Franklin says:

    @Maude:

    THX. I’ll look

  63. 63
    Maude says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    I’m going with State Department on this.
    The security of Blue Mountain was bad. They are a small contractor. State contracted them
    All in all, I think Obama wasn’t told about the messages from Libya about security. He would have increased it right away and quietly.

  64. 64
    efgoldman says:

    @The Dangerman: @efgoldman:

    Sweet justice since they should have lost last week.

    I think Saban spotted A&M the 20 points on purpose, just to make it interesting. A&M D hasn’t got a prayer, and Bama’s D is getting serious. Bama just scored at the end of the half, will get the ball to start 3rd quarter.

    Meanwhile, Oregon State was trailing Stanford 14-0, have scored 17 straight.

  65. 65
    Ben Franklin says:

    @Maude:

    lamb35 has a good point. FBI ‘stumbled’ on it after investigating the original complaint.
    Seems plausible.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11.....&_r=0

  66. 66
    Felonius Monk says:

    @efgoldman:

    What kind of “conspiracy” is a powerful man having a little something on the side?

    That is not what I meant. There has been a whole lot of crap put forth by the righties, after this resignation was announced yesterday, that his resignation is all part of the Obama cover-up on Benghazi. Their crap is bad enough, but it seems to me after reading Marcy Wheeler’s piece that she is also trying to spin some kind of conspiracy theory.

    I believe, until I see otherwise, that Petraeus got caught “with his pants down” because of Broadwell’s threatening e-mails. Since this was going to become public as a result of the FBI investigation, he did the correct and honorable thing — resign. His indiscretion by itself wasn’t the problem, but he is an able enough leader to know that his leadership position as Director of the CIA would be undermined if he continued in that post. It’s too bad, i think, because, in spite of his obvious ego, he is a pretty gifted leader.

  67. 67
    Hill Dweller says:

    @JPL: FWIW, Richard Engel(on Maddow’s show) suggested someone in the CIA dropped the dime on Petraeus because he had ruffled a lot of feathers in the Agency since becoming Director.

    That said, Engel, who is a good reporter, looked very uncomfortable making those comments.

  68. 68
    Mnemosyne says:

    So, fellas, I think the life lesson to learn from Gen. Petraeus is that you can cheat on your wife and get away with it, but you can’t simultaneously cheat on your mistress and not get caught.

  69. 69
    Felonius Monk says:

    @Ben Franklin: I think Hill Dweller at #67 puts forth a plausible reason. I saw that interview also and concur.

  70. 70
    efgoldman says:

    @Felonius Monk:

    Since this was going to become public as a result of the FBI investigation, he did the correct and honorable thing—resign.

    No choice. The spooks (not just the CIA) have had a visceral fear of sexual blackmail since before the cold war. The Soviets did it, and we probably did, too. That’s the reason (besides basic prejudice) for their total rejection of homosexuality: what if the bad guys found out.
    He could possibly have survived in the military (as long as the woman wasn’t also in the service, and therefore a subordinate) and as we’ve seen, infidelity has a mixed result for politicians. But not in a major intelligence job.

  71. 71
    Maude says:

    @Hill Dweller:
    It says someone not in government.
    Engels shouldn’t be speculating on this.
    It is going to be interesting.

    @Ben Franklin:
    I get NYT email headlines. I had read the article.
    It’s the emails that bother me. Not the affair.

  72. 72
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Hill Dweller:

    If there is a Benghazi connection, my guess would be that people inside the CIA blamed Petraeus and his policies for the way it turned into a clusterfuck, especially since (as far as I can tell) it appears that 2 of the 4 killed were CIA.

  73. 73
    Ben Franklin says:

    @Maude:

    It’s the emails that bother me. Not the affair

    Me too.

  74. 74
    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    I hope BC kicks Notre Dame’s ass, I am passed sick and tired of the media ballwashing of them, granted they may be tired of the Crimson Tide dominating(Gig’em Aggies!!!)but FU Mike Golic,the Fighting Irish are not America’s Team!

  75. 75
    Felonius Monk says:

    From a news report I heard a few minutes ago, it sounds like the FBI was called in because the threatening e-mails were sent to someone (the other other woman) who worked at the CIA. In this situation the FBI has the jurisdiction.

  76. 76
    JPL says:

    @Felonius Monk: The Washington Post article does suggest a different scenario. It appears another woman was involved. We don’t know if that woman was another mistress or what but Paula felt threatened by her. It appears they tapped into Paula’s computer first.

  77. 77
    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @burnspbesq: Speaking of Duke College basketball is back, will anybody beat the NBA #1 farm club Team Justified(Kentucky Wildcats) and their coach Boyd Crowder(John Calipari) this year?

  78. 78
    JPL says:

    @Felonius Monk: Was she working on the Benghazi cover-up? ..I’m kidding…btw..

  79. 79
    stratplayer says:

    Did anyone catch lowly Syracuse beating the crap out of #9 Louisville by a score of 45-26? ‘Twas a thing of beauty.

  80. 80
    Hill Dweller says:

    @Maude: Having watched his reporting for a few years now, Engel doesn’t strike me as a gossip monger. I don’t think he says it on national TV(especially on a credible show like Maddow’s) without having some reliable sources.

  81. 81
    Felonius Monk says:

    @JPL: Back at ya’,:-)

  82. 82
    JPL says:

    hmm Alabama better start playing.

  83. 83
    Corner Stone says:

    Somebody should tell the TAMU kicker that the election’s over, and no one’s going right anymore.

  84. 84
    Corner Stone says:

    Somebody should tell the TAMU kicker that the election’s over, and no one’s going right anymore.

  85. 85
    Corner Stone says:

    Can’t wait to watch Oregon tonight. If I don’t pass out first, of course.
    Nothing better than falling asleep to a left coast game.

  86. 86
    Corner Stone says:

    Can’t wait to watch Oregon tonight. If I don’t pass out first, of course.
    Nothing better than falling asleep to a left coast game.

  87. 87
    Corner Stone says:

    Somebody should tell the Eer’s to play defense. Just sayin’.

    Someone should also say FYWP.

  88. 88
    Maude says:

    @Hill Dweller:
    He is a reporter and he knows better than to go on tv and say things that are not facts. I know all about his work. I wish he wouldn’t talk about this.
    This is not a situation for gossip and guessing. It is serious because of the security issues.
    We don’t know what happened except for a few things.
    The other thing is that the type of talk that Engels was doing plays into the Republicans hands. They don’t care about Petraeus, they want to destroy Obama.
    The odd thing is that the Republicans have left Hillary CLinton out of all this. I find that interesting.

  89. 89
    Corner Stone says:

    Somebody should tell the Eer’s to play defense. Just sayin’.

    Someone should also say FYWP.

  90. 90
    Corner Stone says:

    Damn. I really need to go buy fresh asparagus for dinner tonight but this TAMU v Bama game has me by the balls.

  91. 91
    Corner Stone says:

    Damn. I really need to go buy fresh asparagus for dinner tonight but this TAMU v Bama game has me by the balls.

  92. 92
    General Stuck says:

    Tonight, we are all corner stone corner stone corner stone corner stone.

  93. 93
    General Stuck says:

    Tonight, we are all corner stone corner stone corner stone corner stone.

  94. 94
    Corner Stone says:

    @General Stuck: Don’t be hatin’ just because FYWP loves me more than you.

  95. 95
    Thlayli says:

    Dear Texas A&M: there’s this thing called “pass defense”. You should look into it.

  96. 96
    Thlayli says:

    Like that.

  97. 97
    Corner Stone says:

    @Thlayli: I think they found the dictionary they were looking for.

  98. 98
    JPL says:

    @Thlayli: Well wow.. just wow..

  99. 99
    Steeplejack says:

    Damn, A&M is going to let Bama get the ball back again. WTF?!

  100. 100
    Corner Stone says:

    @Steeplejack: Nope.

  101. 101
    Corner Stone says:

    This is mindblowing.

  102. 102

    When it isn’t my beloved Buckeyes, I love it when the No. 1 ranked team loses.

  103. 103
    Corner Stone says:

    I wonder if Bama fans feel like the Romney team on election night?

    Too soon?

  104. 104
    Corner Stone says:

    Someone check on Bnut, stat.

  105. 105
    gwangung says:

    I wonder if Bama fans feel like the Romney team on election night?

    Nah. They KNEW they were getting their butts kicked throughout the game. And they actually had a chance at the end.

    Too soon?

    Nah.

  106. 106
    Capt. Seaweed says:

    Oooo now K State’s gotta puke up a dog.

    Don’t blow it tonight, webfooted aquatic fowl.

  107. 107
    sb says:

    If there’s only one undefeated team in the country, that team will be playing Alabama in the title game provided ‘Bama ends their season with this one loss.

    And if ‘Bama wins, I’m going to be ticked. Because only ‘Bama (or any other SEC team for that matter) can lose at home and still get a top-four or five ranking. Any other undefeated team in any other conference losing at home falls to 7th at least. God, I hate the SEC.

  108. 108
    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    I must confess I have a negative bias towards Texas except El Paso(loved El Paso), but I mus admit I was cheering for the Aggies! You gigged them good! Oh BTW it must have been double punch for White Alabama fans first a Blah President is re-elected now a Blah football coach beat their ‘Tide,. 12th man baby!

  109. 109
    Cassidy says:

    @sb: It’s the stronger conference. One loss there is not the same as a loss in the West Coast Peewee League Pac-10. If anything the press loves them some SEC losses.

  110. 110
    sb says:

    @Cassidy:

    One loss there is not the same as a loss in the West Coast Peewee League Pac-10.

    Um… nice dig.

    (grumbles, walks away muttering…)

  111. 111
    Raven says:

    Woof

  112. 112
    Raven says:

    “Auburn’s defense is putting them in a non-competitive situation” No shit.

  113. 113
    Evolving Deep Southerner says:

    @Raven: That’s right up there with “Well, obviously, the team that scores the most points in the game is gonna win.”

  114. 114
    Lex says:

    I have missed some of the weirdest college football games in history, including two just this weekend.

    I went to Davidson, where, as a member of the pep band, I missed only one home football game in four years. It turned out to be one in ’79, my sophomore year, in which Davidson lost 63-55 in a game that set a half-dozen NCAA records (many of them for futility) and got written about in Sports Illustrated. I don’t think Davidson football had been written about in Sports Illustrated since the ’69 Peach Bowl and it may never happen again.

    Then this weekend, because of schoolwork, I missed the UNC-Georgia Tech game mentioned above.

    But worst of all, I missed the game of my employer, Division III Greensboro College, which was played half a mile from my house. A dozen individual, team and conference records were set or tied, including a ridonkulous 38 completions on 59 attempts for 598 passing yards and 4 TDs by Greensboro QB Ryan Throndset.

  115. 115
    Lex says:

    I have missed some of the weirdest college football games in history, including two just this weekend.

    I went to Davidson, where, as a member of the pep band, I missed only one home football game in four years. It turned out to be one in ’79, my sophomore year, in which Davidson lost 63-55 in a game that set a half-dozen NCAA records (many of them for futility) and got written about in Sports Illustrated. I don’t think Davidson football had been written about in Sports Illustrated since the ’69 Peach Bowl and it may never happen again.

    Then this weekend, because of schoolwork, I missed the UNC-Georgia Tech game mentioned above.

    But worst of all, I missed the game of my employer, Division III Greensboro College, which was played half a mile from my house. A dozen individual, team and conference records were set or tied, including a ridonkulous 38 completions on 59 attempts for 598 passing yards and 4 TDs by Greensboro QB Ryan Throndset.

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