Karl Rove Unironically Accuses Obama of ‘Suppressing the Vote’

Karl Rove cannot accept that he poured 300 million dollars into the election and has fuck-all to show for it. Instead of admitting he done screwed it all up, he’s blaming President Obama for suppressing the vote.

Yes, seriously.

His evidence of such nefarious shenanigans? That President Obama (accurately) characterized Romney as a rich douchebag***:

Karl Rove insisted that Barack Obama won re-election by “suppressing the vote,” during an appearance on Fox News Thursday, even though the president secured more popular and electoral votes than challenger Mitt Romney and grew his margins within certain voting blocks.

ROVE: I think the Republicans lost in this election because of two things. One is that the Obama campaign was very effective in keeping roughly 92 percent of the people who voted for President Obama before to vote for him again. But they didn’t do a good job of growing the electorate…The Democrats, the the only group that they got more votes this time around than they got four years ago were among Latinos. About 700,000 more Latinos voted Democratic this year than the year before. But the president succeed by suppressing the vote, by saying to people, ‘you may not like who I am and I know you can’t bring yourself to vote for me, but I’m going to paint this other guy as simply a rich guy who only cares about himself.


Setting aside all of Rove’s failed efforts at actual voter suppression — from voter ID laws to crackdowns on early voting to wonky voting machines — Rove is essentially claiming that Obama suppressed the vote by campaigning.

Also, too, his statement doesn’t even make sense! Rove says Obama kept 92% of the vote, and then in the next breath, says that Obama knew people couldn’t stomach voting for him, so Obama characterized Romney as a rich selfish vulture capitalist (thank you, Rick Perry), which, by the way, was how all of the Republican candidates characterized Romney during the primary.

The fail is strong with Turd Blossom.

***The WSJ, by the way, has a must-read article about Messina’s strategy to spend money early on to characterize Romney as a douche before Romney had the money to counter that characterization. Brilliant.

[via Think Progress]

[cross-posted at ABLC]

102 replies
  1. 1
    KG says:

    Obama was so effective at suppressing the vote that he lost 8.5 million votes from his own total 4 years ago! 11 dimensional chess!

  2. 2
    Felanius Kootea says:

    Hahahahahahahahah bye bye Karl Rove – you are so irrelevant.

  3. 3
    horatius says:

    Romney made his staffers pay their own cab fare home. Compassionate conservatives.


  4. 4
    Handy says:

    Kkkarl is un-Roveling.

  5. 5
    KG says:

    Jesse Ventura says he’d run in 2016 if there’s a grassroots campaign to get him ballot access in all states and if he can get into the debates… This makes me think there is a god, and that she loves me.

  6. 6
    David Koch says:

    Rove is right.

    Nate Silver’s propaganda polls suppressed the turnout of hard working white people. He kept saying Obama was an overwhelming favorite which demoralized and dissuaded romney voters from showing up. “why bother standing in line for hours when our guy can’t win”, they said.

    it was nothing less than a hi-tech lynching perpetrated by Nate, PPP, and MSNBC.

  7. 7
    YellowJournalism says:

    From the article:

    The idea, explained to the president in a PowerPoint presentation in the Roosevelt Room

    Somewhere, upon hearing that part, Paul Ryan is crying against his gym equipment.

  8. 8
    ericblair says:


    Romney made his staffers pay their own cab fare home. Compassionate conservatives.

    Romney enjoys firing people.

  9. 9
    Waldo says:

    Eh, that’s classic Rovian projection. Might be the only thing he’s still good at.

  10. 10
    lamh35 says:

    Ok, I’m at work now, but when did I miss this.

    They called Florida for Obama!

    So damn Mittens really got shellacked! Jeez.

  11. 11

    Let’s just see what he did there: he equated “suppressing the vote,” an actual, real thing Republicans are doing with their Voter ID laws and other shenanigans (some of them illegal), with “framing.”

    Voter suppression is not “framing.”

    Karl Rove and his partners in slime “framed” Obama as a Soshulist-Moooslim-Kenyan-usurper. It didn’t work. The Obama campaign “framed” Romney as a vulture capitalist out of touch rich douchebag. It did. This is not voter suppression. This is called MARKETING.

    And I wonder, by incorrectly defining “voter suppression,” if Rove isn’t purposely trying to confuse their base? Then again, I’m starting to wonder if Rove is even that smart. He probably truly doesn’t know what the fuck it means.

  12. 12
    LanceThruster says:

    In fairness to Rove, nobody from OFA offered the other side sammiches for their vote…ergo, SUPPRESION!

    Congressional Rethuglicans are looking to pass a non-binding resolution to declare a Mulligan.

  13. 13
    ppcli says:

    This is calculated. Rove knows what he’s going to need in coming elections is more, and more determined chicanery from Republican secretaries of state like the Ohio guy. So he anticipates lots of talk about “voter suppression”. He’s trying to a) cloud the debate, so that people will hear of vote suppression and think “well, I guess both sides do it”. b) throw fog around just what vote suppression is: persuading people not to go out to vote for the other guy is not vote suppression, even if it is negative. But if he clouds up the terms of the debate, it will be harder to fight back. He’s starting the 2014 midterm election campaign early.

  14. 14
    smith says:


    The rumor(s) going around is that the Romney campaign is either broke or in serious debt.

    No matter, even so, Romney could have waited a day or two and at least let the staffers get home before cancelling the credit cards.

    Romney has always been a heartless bastard, so no shocker.

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    quannlace says:

    Looks like everybody’s gotten the memo. It’s the victimhood/excuse du jour.
    Michael Medved over on Fox radio began his show with the exact same thing, and made it sound like he came up with all on his lonesome.
    Negative ads=Voter suppression! Supposedly, people get so fed up with the ads they say, ‘Ah screw it. I’m not voting for either of them.’
    Thought #1, So why wouldn’t it have kept down Obama’s numbers as well?
    Thought #2. If you supposedly care about the election and the direction the country’s going, and you let some stupid tv ads decide whether you’ll vote or not, well, you’re an idiot. GOP, these are the folks you want to claim as your own? If so, next campaign season, you might want to remind people that there’s a little thing on their tv remote. It’s called a mute button.

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    Chris says:

    I wonder if this will become a generally accepted wingnut meme – like Obama’s birth certificate, but even more so.

    They were all utterly convinced, until the last hour of the election, that they would win (polling be damned), and they’re still utterly convinced that there’s nothing wrong with them and they shouldn’t change. Believing this would assuage their current freakout by giving them an ideologically acceptable reason to go on believing all that they want to believe.

  17. 17
    Anoniminous says:

    Stages of Grief:

    1. denial
    2. anger
    3. bargaining
    4. depression
    5. acceptance

    Rovie-poo is in Stage 1. Going to be fun when he moves to Stage 2.

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    YellowJournalism says:

    What the pundits will never get through those pudding-filled heads of theirs is that, yes, Obama launched a massive attack on Romney’s character and leadership qualities (or lack thereof). The only reason it worked is that not only was it all true, but Romney himself proved it further in his actions! The “47 Percent” video, his lies about Obama not calling Benghazi a terrorist act, the Jeep fiasco, his lack of a specific plan for the economy…most of all, his actions during a major crisis and natural disaster where he ran a canned foods drive and tried to get a governor who was busy managing the aftermath to come campaign for him! The man probably saved Obama thousands in ads!

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    Surreal American says:

    His evidence of such nefarious shenanigans? That President Obama (accurately) characterized Romney as a rich douchebag.

    Rove objected only because he didn’t want to be out of the running:


  20. 20
    Ash Can says:

    Yo, Republicans. Seven words. I know seven is a lot, but try really, really hard to follow me. OK? Ready? Repeat after me: “The voters preferred the other guy’s policies.”

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    PurpleGirl says:

    That sure is a novel and creative spin. I wonder how long it took him to think it up. Karl Rove you most certainly are a turd blossom.

  22. 22
    gogol's wife says:



  23. 23
    SatanicPanic says:

    I wonder what the rich dudes he fleeced are going to do to him. Lawsuits? Cement shoes?

  24. 24
    Anoniminous says:


    I hope so. The GOP is facing a demographic problem, a base problem (they are insane,) and an organization problem. To fix these they need to deal with reality. The longer they refuse to acknowledge reality, the better for us.

  25. 25

    None of this matters. It all boils down to one thing, Republicans did not get it. They’re still blaming everyone and every thing except themselves. Rachel Maddow hit the nail on the head last night, if you missed the final 3 minutes of her show, I’ve embedded the video here.

  26. 26
    Jay in Oregon says:

    “For the last time, WHERE’S MY GODDAMN MONEY!?”

  27. 27
    ding dong says:

    i heard some nbc reporter talking this morning. they estimate 800000 votes obama lost in the ne due to sandy so fock off karl. you lucke3d out that sandy came because obamas votes would have embarrassed you.

  28. 28
    Gravenstone says:

    Karl Rove has an eminently punchable face. Just saying…

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    David Koch says:

    It comes down to numbers. And in the final days of this presidential race, from polling data to early voting, they favor Mitt Romney. In addition to the data, the anecdotal and intangible evidence—from crowd sizes to each side’s closing arguments—give the sense that the odds favor Mr. Romney. They do. My prediction: Sometime after the cock crows on the morning of Nov. 7, Mitt Romney will be declared America’s 45th president. Let’s call it 51%-48%, with Mr. Romney carrying at least 279 Electoral College votes, probably more. Karl Rove 11/1/12

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    Lurking Canadian says:

    It is well known that Democrats are cheating any time they do not roll over and show their bellies.

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    Gindy51 says:

    @Ash Can: Partially because no one knew what the rich guy’s policies were (other than pocket more cash for himself and the rest of the 1%). (I bet even if he had won, he’d have canceled the credit cards.)

    Rove’s channeling Palin is just him trying not to get fitted for a pair of cement over shoes by Koch and Adelson.

  32. 32
    Jay in Oregon says:

    How many ways does Karl Rove plan to be wrong about this election?

    His original prediction was off, his analysis of Ohio was off, and now his charges of “voter suppression” are delusional.

  33. 33
    Gex says:

    I saw many righties bemoaning the fact that we’ve reached a tipping point. IOW white men don’t get to deide everything by themselves. This country now accepts brown people, women, and gays as citizens. We are real Americans, they can keep their “real Merikans” if they don’t want to come along.

  34. 34
    ericblair says:

    @Anoniminous: Stages of Grief:

    Wingnut Stages of Grief:

    1. Denial
    2. Anger
    3. GOTO 1

  35. 35
    Surreal American says:

    @Jay in Oregon:


    */didn’t originate with me, but the moment called for it.

  36. 36
    Comrade Jake says:

    If Rove’s job over the next few decades is to mostly waste billionaire conservatives’ money, I’m OK with that. That seems like a just world to me.

  37. 37
    Ken says:

    @KG: Yep, ‘suppressed’ his own vote total by 8.5MM and still rolled up a huge win. That is just toying with the GOP.

    Is this the gist of the explanation that TurdBlossom will give to Sheldon Adelson? Hardy-har-har.

  38. 38
    JoyceH says:

    Has this already been discussed?

    “Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) suggested Thursday that he will no longer push to repeal healthcare reform, calling it “the law of the land.” ”


    I’m all BOGGLE!

  39. 39
    Jay in Oregon says:

    @Surreal American:
    Republicans believe in wealth redistribution, as long as it’s election season and you’re a consultant.

  40. 40
    jl says:

    I have negative free time to follow the fun, but seriously? That is what Rove has, Obama, and the other Democrats said mean things in a campaign.

    Brightens my extremely busy day.

    Thanks, TL.

  41. 41
    katie5 says:

    @Lurking Canadian: That’s how I know my cat is cheating me.

  42. 42
    Strontium 90 says:

    @Ken: 2012 was a Milton Berle election for Obama.

  43. 43
    Felonius Monk says:

    Karl shit the bed, but he’s not man enough to own up to it. Anyway this is just a stalling tactic until his plane tickets to an undisclosed location arrive. He’s trying to get away before the hitmen get there.

  44. 44
    EconWatcher says:


    My advice to Boehner is, start drinking heavily. (Even more than usual.)

    That dude is in a bad spot. He’s got the Bush tax cuts expiring, the tea party enraged, Cantor eyeing the spot between his shoulder blades, and Obama ready to make him an offer he can’t refuse for targeted middle-class tax cuts that leave out the rich.

    He can’t possibly win. I don’t see how he keeps his spot.

    I think that’s a shame, because I like him way better than the alternatives in his party (no snark). He’s old school, maybe slightly corrupt, but in the end probably does care about the country and his legacy.

    This won’t end well for him.

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    dmsilev says:


    Romney made his staffers pay their own cab fare home.

    I read about that. What boggles the mind is that canceling those credit cards was apparently high up on someone’s Election Night to-do list.

    1) Write concession speech for Governor Romney
    2) Get shit-faced drunk at hotel bar
    3) Release confetti
    4) Cancel campaign Mastercard.

    (nb: Romney’s campaign would make an awesome Mastercard commercial. “There are some things money can’t buy–cut to image of Obama taking oath of office–for everything else, there’s Mastercard…”)

  47. 47
    joes527 says:

    @smith: From the comments at the linked article:

    Cab rides are for closers.

  48. 48
    jl says:

    @Strontium 90:

    There is a clash between what is said in the ‘quiet back rooms’ and in public. I hope Rove is good at eleven dimensional double think and double talk. And that he has a version that works well on rich maniacs and the public.

    I will enjoy watching the unique genius of Karl Rove at work.

  49. 49
    feebog says:

    OK, so KKKarl spent 380 million and came up with almost nothing to show for it. My question is, will the suckers fall for his sthick in 2014 and beyond? I know 60 or 70 million is lunch money to Adelson on David Koch, but these are supposed to be smart businessmen, no? I know they will spend the money, but will they spend it through KKKarl anymore?

  50. 50
    SatanicPanic says:

    @JoyceH: Shorter Boehner- I am about to lose my job to that twerp Cantor

  51. 51
    PurpleGirl says:

    @lamh35: Miami-Dade finished counting the absentee ballots around noon. They were still looking at the provisional ballots. They had 31,500 absentee ballots (article at Google implies Miami-Dade.)

  52. 52
    joes527 says:

    @dmsilev: The whole Rove: “I don’t believe it is over, lets send Megyn down the hall to check” thing was nothing more than a pre-arranged stall while they canceled the cards before anyone could hit the street with them.

  53. 53
    Dan says:

    My gut reaction to this is that the advisers are lying and they had to know they had a good chance of losing. But maybe not?:http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-25.....8;tag=page

  54. 54
    Schlemizel says:

    Saw a youtube clip of that disgusting Todd person interviewing operatives, one from crossroads. Safe to say he really does not get it. If they follow through as he was suggesting we can expect very similar work & results in the future – thank Pasta these clowns are not very bright!

  55. 55
    Todd Dugdale says:

    The Republicans also called the supposedly ‘skewed’ polls “voter suppression”.

    They’ve spent nearly five years working overtime on slanders, Apocalyptic scenarios that never pan out, wildly contradictory narratives (“He’s a dictator!” “He leads from behind!”), ‘scandals’ that turn out to be nothing, while preventing action from being taken in Congress.

    Aside from that, didn’t we hear from every Republican how absolutely awesome Republican turnout was going to be? They’ve been saying that for over a year now. They even invented a whole “unskewed” narrative to account for the tremendous turnout advantage that the Republicans were going to have this election.

    Now, however, it’s ‘obvious’ that the Republican vote was “suppressed” by a narrative that dampened the enthusiasm of multitudes of imaginary Republican voters.

  56. 56
    Schlemizel says:

    BTW – Nate Silver has become a meme:
    A number is not absolute until Nate Silver predicts it.
    Han Solo lets Nate Silver tell him the odds.
    Nate Silver can recite Pi. Backwards.
    Nate Silver doesn’t think this song is about him. He’s 78.3% sure it is.
    Nate Silver knows how much wood a woodchuck can chuck, and corrects for whether or not the woodchuck can chuck wood.
    Nate Silver knows if Schrödinger’s cat is alive or dead.
    Nate Silver’s samples have only a median and a mode because no number would be mean to Nate Silver.
    Results ask Nate Silver if they’re significant.

  57. 57
    PeakVT says:

    @ericblair: Denial, Anger, Projection, GOTO 1

  58. 58
    Comrade Jake says:

    OT, but do any of you follow Larison on twitter? He’s hilarious.

  59. 59
    Mino says:

    All those Dems standing in line for 9 hours kept Republicans from voting!

  60. 60
    Higgs Boson's Mate says:

    @Southern Beale:

    None of this matters. It all boils down to one thing, Republicans did not get it. They’re still blaming everyone and every thing except themselves.

    Precisely. They’re America’s Cargo Cult; if building fake airplanes out of driftwood and palm fronds doesn’t pay off like it did for the legendary Chief Nik-son then it’s because they’re not using enough palm fronds.

  61. 61
    Felonius Monk says:

    Why is fat Karl allowed to fart in public?

  62. 62
    freelancer says:

    The Republicans’ concept of voter suppression is on par with their idea of free speech.

    Is he arguing that the “suppression” was that Republicans were all having a sad, so they weren’t motivated to get to the polls?

    Grow the fuck up.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @JoyceH: He already ran away from it, per HuffPo. If I were so gutless I was afraid of Eric Cantor, I’d at least have the decency to pretend to want to spend more time with my Merlot family.

  65. 65
    Keith G says:

    ::Blinks Rolls eyes::

    ABL. I really hope no one cares about this. The campaign for this election is fini and we won. Drop the “Omg, look what they said” posts for a while. We know they are feckless turds. Move on.

    Let’s leave the idiots on the other side to fixate on the past while we talk about the future.

    Use your political blog of the year mad blogging skillz to kick-start a campaign to pressure all of our political leaders to address the need for nation-wide voting standards and procedures. Leave this fiddly shit to lesser talents.

  66. 66
    hep kitty says:

    What happened to the guy whose name alone used to make both republicans and dems quake in their boots.

    Your brilliant political marketing strategy that drove the republican power machine for so long has now been murdered by the people and you are a walking joke and a fossil.

    Now, the bloom is off the Turdblossom. I would loooove to be a fly on the wall in those donor meetings.

  67. 67
    Suffern ACE says:

    @freelancer: if only they had a way to motivate people. A place where they could go and hear what a wonderful guy Romney was. Conservative ideas are great, but no one ever hears about them anywhere.

  68. 68
    hep kitty says:

    What happened to the guy whose name alone used to make both republicans and dems quake in their boots.

    Your brilliant political marketing strategy that drove the republican power machine for so long has now been murdered by the people and you are a walking joke and a fossil.

    Now, the bloom is off the Turdblossom. I would loooove to be a fly (no pun intended) on the wall in those donor meetings.

  69. 69
    MattF says:

    This is just ol’ Turd Blossom doing his thing. He always does this. He always accuses his adversaries of doing precisely what he has done. Ignore it.

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    Schlemizel says:

    My kid watches Tweety so it was on when I got home tonight. He had some guy on who said Rmoney REALLY thought he was going to win. Tweety snorted & asked the guy again if he was serious & the guy was pretty sure they never saw it coming!

    I also read in the boston paper that willard had a 45 minute fireworks display set up by the guy who does the Boston 4th. They had to get permits so we know its not a rumor. They had to fold the tent & silently steal away

    There is that damn grin again! 8-{D

  71. 71
    PurpleGirl says:


    Ah, but can he say


    or in reverse order


    ETA: I didn’t get much sleep last night and I’ve hit being silly.

  72. 72
    hep kitty says:

    @Keith G: I think what is of interest is watching Rove and Fox News completely disconnect from reality. That’s really what’s interesting about it. The content of what he has to say is irrelevant. Just your typical knee-jerk response from a Romney surrogate.

    I really have been surprised to learn how many people on the right were in total denial and really believed Mitt was going to win up to the end.

    Obama hatred is one type of delusion. This is another kind. I’m not sure what to call it.

  73. 73
    LanceThruster says:



    What about private jets?

  74. 74
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Schlemizel: with “No Apologies” and the welfare ad and playing footsie with Donald Trump, I always figured Willard was using talk radio demagoguery to appeal to mouth-breathers he held in contempt. By the time of the Benghazi moment at the debate, he had been absorbed by the LimBorg.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:


    It’s what these assholes do.

  76. 76
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Keith G: Have you ever noticed that one of the rotating tags on this site is “Lighten up, Francis.” ?

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    pseudonymous in nc says:

    Projecting your own worst characteristics is so 2004.

    Poor Karl. You can get away with ripping off grannies, but when you grift billionaires, they still have plenty of money left over to get back at you. What’s that in my pocket: oh, it’s the world’s tiniest violin.

  78. 78
    FormerLurker says:

    Rove’s buffoonery aside, it is actually an interesting and significant question if white turnout in swing states was actually lower than in 2008. That’s the meme going ’round the nutosphere since yesterday: Romney’s turnout among whites in the states that mattered was much lower than McCain’s in 2008. Their two favorite reasons for this:

    1. Summer anti-Bain ads trashed Romney’s rep among the Honey Boo Boo demographic.
    2. Evangelical nutters refused to vote for a Mormon.

    The pessimist in me inclines me to believe #2. The idea that the poor whites will suddenly start voting their economic interests sounds too good to be true (there will always be something the matter with KS), but I can totally imagine the US taliban declaring all Mormons to be infidels and refusing to pull the lever for R-money.

    Anyway, not really going anywhere with this. Just that if whites really didn’t show up this time I hope that the dems don’t start taking it for granted. If they do, we’ll get shellacked in 2014. Nobody turns out for midterms like angry white people.

  79. 79
    Lurking Canadian says:

    @EconWatcher: I post from ignorance. Is there some way Boehner can cobble together some kind of majority out of a handful of (relatively) sane Reps, with Dem support, the way parliamentary minority govenments work? Or does “Speaker of the house” now depend on Rep support only?

    I’m not really asking if he would do such a thing, just if the institutional structure permits it.

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    Schlemizel says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Its funny because, as little as I think of the over-inflated pustual, I never thought he was really, bone deep stupid. Guess I over estimated the twit

  81. 81
    Schlemizel says:

    @Lurking Canadian:

    Permits it? Hell yes & it used to happen regularly. Usually they would toss in some pork for a guy on the fence & all kinds of deals got passed.

    But the true believers will not allow such heresy!

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    RaflW says:

    Poor Karl. Such a sad turd.

    He cannot fathom that that neer and his pals outsmarted Rove and his GPS system. Reading the WSJ article that DougJ linked to, all I could think was that Rove and these other jackasses all believe the Fox-wingnut meme that Obama is lazy and/or dumb affirmative action and/or timid.

    So they couldn’t process that Obama went after Romney early and often on his key perceived strength. They didn’t get that they were campaigning against the man that risked the Osama raid going terribly wrong.

    Messina’s early and negative tactic worked wonders. And so now the GOP howls about how dirty, mean and divisive Obama was? I get it now (I was not in a battleground so didn’t get this aspect really). But all Obama’s campaign did was what Rove would have, if he’d had the smarts, ammo, and courage.

    Rove cannot stand that he was bested. Bested by a person he so fundamentally misapprehends.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    So mailing a DVD to houses in Ohio claiming that Obamas mother was an S&m porn star and a whore wasn’t negative campaigning by a party that has nothing to run on, but bringing up the actual candidates past is suppression. If only Romney hadn’t run such an honest campaign.

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    1badbaba3 says:

    Soooooo, no permanent Republican majority, then?

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    Lurking Canadian says:

    @Schlemizel: But does his position as Speaker depend on the votes of the whole House, or is it chosen by the party only?

    If the latter, it seems like Cantor can backstab him anytime he wants, no matter how bipartisan Boehner wants to be.

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    Full Metal Wingnut says:

    Yeah, Obama’s PV is way down. But the only differences in the electoral college are: the loss of an EV from the Omaha region (I believe Nebraska no longer splits their votes), and North Carolina and Indiana. That’s fucking outstanding. Conservatards can eat a dick

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    Enhanced Mooching Techniques says:


    I think that’s a shame, because I like him way better than the alternatives in his party (no snark). He’s old school, maybe slightly corrupt, but in the end probably does care about the country and his legacy.

    Everything I read Boehiner would be more than happy to play Tip O’Niel to Obama’s Reagan but the GOP is just to nuts for that.

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    maya says:

    You know, Karl may have a point. Where were those 2, or was it 3, New Black Panther dudes that were tapping their batons outside that polling place in Philly back in ’08? Huh? Where were they this time around?

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    Schlemizel says:

    @Lurking Canadian:

    Yes Speaker is elected by the whole House. But generally it used to be the guy (sorry Nancy it was ALWAYS a guy before) who could deliver the pork to individual districts. The whip was the bad cop. If you screwed up he was the guy who kicked your ass so the Speaker could play good cop.

    Like everything else the teabaggers have ruined they have totally thrown the power structure into chaos. It wasn’t a perfect system before but it mostly worked in an American “not too fast now” sort of way.

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    NonyNony says:

    @Lurking Canadian:

    But does his position as Speaker depend on the votes of the whole House, or is it chosen by the party only?

    His position as Speaker is voted on by the whole House. In the past this hasn’t been an issue because the party with the majority would line up behind the one guy who had the money and goodies to pass out and make him the Speaker (or vote for whoever that guy told them to vote for in some cases). The minority party would object but who cares? They’d never have enough votes to make it stick.

    So theoretically a rump of Republicans could join with the Democrats and put someone in as Speaker. But that would only happen if a real honest to Grod schism in the GOP were occurring – one that I don’t see happening this year. Anyone joining with Democrats to elect a Speaker would become persona non grata quick.

    There’s always the idea that intra-party arguments could cause a split that could lead the Democrats to elect a Speaker, but that would only last long enough to make the Republicans look like idiots who couldn’t get their act together – once the country was thoroughly laughing at them they’d join back together and line up behind a single figure. In a functional House there shouldn’t be a Speaker vote until the majority has their ducks in a row and knows that they can win the vote for Speaker – if that were to not happen this time around it would be yet another example of Republican stupidity.

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    Anoniminous says:

    Doing some maths …

    OFA says they had around 700,000 volunteers. (And who am I to argue?) At $8.50 an hour times 8 hours a day times 30 days is $1,428,000,000.

    That’s one billion, four hundred and twenty eight million buckaroonies.

    And that is a low-ball estimate.

    Puts things in perspective, eh?

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    Anoniminous says:


    On the other hand, Dems voting to put Boner back in as Speaker would cause Cantor to have an aneurism.


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    different-church-lady says:

    Thing I learned today: Karl Rove does not understand what the term “suppressing the vote” means.

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    Odie Hugh Manatee says:

    @Keith G:

    Opinions are like assholes, right?

    Wow, what an opinion.

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    Schlemizel says:


    Oh believe me he knows very well what those words mean. He used them for a very real purpose.
    Both sides do it!
    Yes, Republicans were caught actually trying to suppress the vote
    But some people say the Dems tried to suppress too.

    I can hear Cokie or Liason or any of those other douches on NPR saying it

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    Schlemizel says:


    Oh believe me he knows very well what those words mean. He used them for a very real purpose.
    Both sides do it!
    Yes, Republicans were caught actually trying to suppress the vote
    But some people say the Dems tried to suppress too.

    I can hear Cokie or Liason or any of those other douches on NPR saying it

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    jayackroyd says:

    Karl Rove cannot accept that he poured 300 million dollars into the election and has fuck-all to show for it.

    I think we can be very sure that he has a goodly fraction of that that 300 million to show for it. That he kept the grift going head to head with the OH numbers makes it pretty clear that he’s got no Marian the Librarian checking Harold Hill’s grifting impulses.

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    g says:

    Yes, Karl is right. Obama had the temerity to actually campaign! How dare he?

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    russell says:

    Karl Rove cannot accept that he poured 300 million dollars into the election and has fuck-all to show for it.

    Other people’s money. From which he skimmed his slice.

    Rove has to go on the TV and explain why it wasn’t his fault, otherwise nobody will write him any checks next time around.


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    kc says:

    Rove should be pointed at and laughed at wherever he goes.

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    rikyrah says:

    when one has grifted over 300 million from rich people..

    and you don’t have shyt to show your marks…..

    he’s dancing like crazy…

    bwa ha ha ha ha ha

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    Gus says:

    It’s classic Rove. You accuse your opponent of doing what you are doing. I wonder if the people who provided the money for his efforts will buy that line of bullshit.

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