Thick as thieves

Steve M. does his usual admirable job of deconstructing the idiocy of Peggy Noonan:

On her Wall Street Journal blog, Peggy Noonan says Fie on your silly polling averages! — she has a hunch Mitt Romney’s going to win the election:

I think he’s stealing in “like a thief with good tools,” in Walker Percy’s old words.

This are odd words to quote in reference to Mitt Romney, because when Walker Percy — a devout Catholic — use them in reference to his own writing, the thief he was referring to was God.

The thing to remember about Peggy Noonan, and many others like her, is that her idiotic opinions are force-fed to the public via television and the Wall Street Journal opinion page. People don’t like it when I say this, but broadcasting the rantings of Nooners isn’t that different from what goes on in North Korea.

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  1. 1
    barry says:

    WSJ editorial page cheered both the rise of the Taliban in 1994 and GW Bush in 2000.

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    People don’t like it when I say this, but broadcasting the rantings of Nooners isn’t that different from what goes in North Korea.

    I thought your comparison was not only timely, but eerily accurate.

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    Mike G says:

    If you go read the (North) Korean Central News Agency website, it’s really not that much more turgid than Fox News.
    They both idol-worship a dead quasi-diety (Kim Il Sung, Ronald Reagan), follow an authoritarian ideology that distrusts knowledge and inquiry and demands obedience and conformity; and live in a bubble of ideological fantasies that are mind-bogglingly stupid to the rest of the world.

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    Raven says:

    Brokaw has been a schmuck most of this campaign but I agree when he told Krystal Ball that the idea that this campaign is any worse than any other is the product of short memories.

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    Yutsano says:

    Nice of Nooners to admit the only way they can win is by cheating.

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    Robin G. says:

    Only somewhat OT, given that it’s about the MSM getting comeuppance: Chris Kluwe, Vikings punter and gay marriage supporter, decimated the Saint Paul Pioneer Press today. That’s how it’s done, God bless him.

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    anibundel says:

    My brain hurts.

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    Chyron HR says:

    Right, this sketch has gotten far too silly, stop it right now.

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    Lit3Bolt says:

    DougJ, does this mean you might hold Bill Clinton and Democrats the slightest bit accountable for telecom deregulation? Because that’s what you’re ranting against.

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    Jill says:

    And if Peggy Noonan is proven wrong tomorrow she is totally disqualified as a columnist, right?

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    KG says:

    they don’t have anything other than hunches… the evidence is completely against what they want to believe. if this were a jury, the verdict would be thrown out.

    If the Rueters/Ipso polls of Colorado, Virginia, Florida, and Ohio are accurate with respect to early voting results, the election will be over by 10 pm Eastern, and it’ll be 4 more years.

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    Violet says:

    Like a faded starlet, Peggy Noonan lives on only via the indulgence of directors editors.

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    SFAW says:

    but broadcasting the rantings of Nooners isn’t that different from what goes in North Korea.

    Maybe. But she does have better hair than Kim Jong-il did. (Although his would have been much better suited to CBGB’s and other clubs of that era. Hers, not so much.)

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    LanceThruster says:

    I would hope that most North Koreans realize they are being spoonfed codswallop. I have no such illusions regarding US media consumers.

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    West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.) says:

    Somehow I’m guessing we shouldn’t be holding our collective breath for a mea culpa piece from her once Obama wins on Tuesday. Nah, she and Dick Morris and countless others will keep grinning and collecting a fat, undeserved paycheck.

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    Edward_75 says:

    Only ONE! DAY! LEFT! until President-Elect Romney!

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    NotMax says:

    Shorter Noonan (with apologies to Nora Desmond):

    I’m still big. It’s the politicians who got small.

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    HRA says:

    OT and I apologize.

    Does this kitty look familiar?

    http://www.facebook.com/photo......38;theater

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    Schlemizel says:

    OT but kinda important:
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics.....d=17618823

    from ABC news a story about voter suppression, the handy work of “Screw the Vote”
    Is True the Vote Intimidating Minority Voters From Going to the Polls?

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    Keith says:

    What was her gut telling her this time of year back in 2008?

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    Edward_75 says:

    @Schlemizel:

    Yup yup. True the Vote is out and IN FORCE especially in Ohio and Virginia. No funny business from Obambi this time, especially with ACORN castrated.

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    Peggy, like the Wall Street assholes, has been told that The Fix is In.

    Let them try.

    Some of us are ready for war.

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    Chyron HR says:

    Only TWO! DAYS! LEFT! until Mountain Meadows Massacre 2: The Mittening!

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    SFAW says:

    @Edward_75:

    Oh boy, look who has graced us with his presence.

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    Metrosexual Manichean Monster DougJ says:

    @SFAW:

    But she does have better hair than Kim Jong-il did.

    And cheaper taste in booze, most likely.

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    Edward_75 says:

    @Judas Escargot, Bringer of Loaves and Fish Sandwiches:

    Yup. The fix is in. Word is that Ohio is a fait accompli for the GOP.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    OK, is this seriously in the piece? Via TPM: Peggy Noonan predicts a Romney win: “All the vibrations are right.”

    Dude, that’s gross.

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    MikeJ says:

    BTW, if you don’t read pppolls twitter feed, you’re missing the hilarity of the hate tweets they repost.

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @Jill: And that there is the problem. It’s the reason I’m voting tomorrow and then tuning out election night for the first since I was a wee lad. (Ok, 1984). I can’t watch the same parade of people on the TV. I don’t want to see Tom, or Cokie, or Luntz, or Pat Caddel, or Mary & James, or David Gergen, or Chuck Todd, or Sam Donaldson or George Will, or Mark Shields, or Tom Lerher, or David Brooks, or Kathleen Parker, or David Gregory, or Dick Morris r David Schoen, or Mark Penn. Or John McLaughlin or Elanor Clift. Or Dan Rather, Ted Koppel, or any of the young whippersnappers who the above things would impress the youth of today.

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    El Cid says:

    I’d like to see True the Vote turnout in force in some of the hard core African American areas of downtown / Southeast and Southwest Atlanta.

    C’mon, be manly patriots there.

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    eemom says:

    broadcasting the rantings of Nooners isn’t that different from what goes in North Korea.

    DougJ, you know I lovez ya, but I really wish you wouldn’t channel that particular piece of Somerby lunacy.

    Nothing that goes on in this country is anything remotely like what goes on in North Korea. That is a grossly callous statement, very little different from saying “what went on at Auschwitz.”

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    PeakVT says:

    Ut-oh. Looks like somebody is home from school…

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    Full Metal Wingnut says:

    Only *ONE DAY LEFT* until Erection Swallower bleeds out in his bathtub.

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    DougJ@top
    The troll trolls again. Mouthing off GOP propaganda. Ban him, please.

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    El Cid says:

    If you can’t consider someone whose job it was to write flowery propaganda for Republican presidents as an expert analysis on electoral issues, why, who else is there?

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    SFAW says:

    @Metrosexual Manichean Monster DougJ:

    And cheaper taste in booze, most likely.

    I have to confess, I have no idea what he drank. Blood of virgins? Or 75-year-old Scotch? Or what?

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    Edward_75 says:

    @PeakVT:

    Ut-oh. Looks like someone is going to be making empty threats about moving to Canada soon.

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    @FlipYrWhig: She must have a large supply of fresh batteries.

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    Violet says:

    @HRA: Oh, god, that’s hilarious. If Cole’s missing a pumpkin, we know what happened.

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    Tonal Crow says:

    People don’t like it when I say this, but broadcasting the rantings of Nooners isn’t that different from what goes in North Korea.

    My GOD how can it be in AMERICA that RADICAL COMMIE LIB’RAL WHALE-WORSHIPPING, DIRT-EATING, WITCH-SIPPING, LATTE-DRIVING, LIB’RAL LIB’RAL LIB’RAL DEMONRATS like you aren’t SENT to GITMO to ROT with the ATHEIST MUSLIM TERRORISTS that you LOVE??????!?!?!?!?!??!

    /typical wingnut

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    Edward_75 says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    WAAAAH! WAAAH! WAAAH! BAN HIM HE’S SO MEAN FOR TELLING ME MY HERO PIN-UP OBAMBI WILL LOSE! WAAHAAA!

    Shut up and take your loss like a man.

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    Redshift says:

    @Raven: Overall, I agree. However, I do think the character of Romney’s lying is unlike anything we’ve seen in a presidential campaign in my lifetime.

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    AC says:

    This shit’s math, right?

    Tax cuts raise revenue?

    SHOW YOUR WORK!

    You predict Rmoney will win and the polls are wrong?

    SHOW YOUR WORK!

    You say we can offset tax cuts by closing loopholes?

    SHOW YOUR WORK!

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    Brachiator says:

    People don’t like it when I say this, but broadcasting the rantings of Nooners isn’t that different from what goes in North Korea.

    Apart from the misguided hyperbole and sheer inaccuracy, your comparison is spot on.

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    Full Metal Wingnut says:

    Get ready for Sharia law! Do you have your Muslin name picked out? I’m going with Moo Hamid.

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    Tonal Crow says:

    @AC: Oh, you must be a TEE-CHER!

    /Saint Palin of the Wingnuts

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    SFAW says:

    @AC:

    SHOW YOUR WORK!

    After the election, remember? Not that it would make any difference – even if they put out something before the election, it would most likely all be bullshit anyway.

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    Hill Dweller says:

    @PeakVT:

    Ut-oh. Looks like somebody is home from school…

    Speaking of home and schooling, the wingnut billionaire brigade is paying home-schooled kids as much as $15 per hour to help with GOTV.

    Willard also asked Caribou Barbie to do robo-calls for his campaign.

    If you’re calling Sarah Palin for help in the 11th hour of the campaign, you’ve already lost.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Full Metal Wingnut: Oh, shit, all this time I thought it was KO-rea law. I’ve been practicing Oppa Gangnam Style for nothing.

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    Xecky Gilchrist says:

    Ed! Slow down. I’m just a lib, I can’t bookmark that fast.

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    LanceThruster says:

    @Redshift:

    To put the theory to the test, imagine it was Obama continually trotting out such whoppers. The press would be apoplectic. And this is the gang that promoted the false meme that Al Gore claimed to invent the internet.

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    Raven says:

    @Redshift:

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    Violet says:

    From the Nooners column:

    A former political figure who’s been in Ohio told me this morning something is moving with evangelicals, other church-going Protestants and religious Catholics. He said what’s happening with them is quiet, unreported and spreading: They really want Romney now, they’ll go out and vote, the election has taken on a new importance to them.

    Religious Catholics? As opposed to…non-religious Catholics? WTF? How does crap like this get past whatever editor they’ve got?

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    Metrosexual Manichean Monster DougJ says:

    @SFAW:

    He loved high end scotch.

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    RareSanity says:

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    @Full Metal Wingnut:

    Get ready for Sharia law! Do you have your Muslin name picked out? I’m going with Moo Hamid.

    So is Mitt Romney is going to institute Sharia law? Or is Obama going to win?

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    PeakVT says:

    Now that the troll has admitted that it’s a teenager, would the adults please stop encouraging it?

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    Full Metal Wingnut says:

    @FlipYrWhig: Tsk tsk. Are you black? You might be eligible from a free Escalade from Obummer. Paid for by the blood sweat and tears of good Christian white folks of course

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    Bex says:

    @Jill: Nooners also predicted that Clinton wouldn’t win a second term. She’s still employed, unfortunately.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Violet: I hear Romney is also way ahead with true Scotsmen.

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    Seanly says:

    I luvs trolls. They must sit around hitting refresh all day long.

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    blingee says:

    yawn…wtf are you babbling on about now DougJ? Oh noeZZZZ we lost Peggy Noonan. We are doomed.

    What is Sully saying? As if that actually mattered too.

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    SFAW says:

    @Metrosexual Manichean Monster DougJ:

    He loved high end scotch.

    I do, too.

    Well, I would, if I could afford it.

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    danimal says:

    Where do I sign up for the death panels after the election? I like riding in the UN Black Helicopters as much as the next guy, but I get nervous about small arms fire when I ride them. I think we’ll be better off once all the guns are confiscated.

    OOPS! I forgot; the secret Obambi agenda is supposed to be embargoed until election day. Carry on.

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    Arclite says:

    I guess it goes without saying that it’s in extremely poor taste to use the words “stealing” and “thief” in the context of an election.

    What an idiot.

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    Redshift says:

    @Suffern ACE: I have a solution for that. I’m going to be at my county Dems victory party. It’s a huge county, so while we’ll have TVs on projection screens, there will be enough people that we won’t be able to hear a word the bobbleheads are saying until we quiet down for the victory and concession speeches.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Robin G.:
    That’s a great editorial. It’s just too bad that we live in a society where we get better editorial material from professional athletes than professional journalists.

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    NotMax says:

    @FlipYrWhig

    What time do the polling places close in Kenya and Venezuela?

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    trollhattan says:

    @Edward_75:
    That “Word” does not exist.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Full Metal Wingnut: No, but I can just pretend to be black to fool the government and get all the free stuff that makes black life so much cushier than white people’s. That’s why I like Obama so much, the limitless opportunity for goodies and fraud sustained by deep-seated incompetence.

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    Schlemizel says:

    @AC:

    “I refuse to prove that I existany of this works,” says GodGOP, “for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.”

    I am waiting for that day when people realize the last 40 years prove the GOP is a faith based operation and reality causes it to disappear in a puff of logic

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    blingee says:

    @KG: It will be over sooner than that. CNN will call it by 8:30pm. 1 hour after Ohio polls close

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    Violet says:

    Peggy is not very bright:

    There is no denying the Republicans have the passion now, the enthusiasm. The Democrats do not. Independents are breaking for Romney. And there’s the thing about the yard signs. In Florida a few weeks ago I saw Romney signs, not Obama ones. From Ohio I hear the same. From tony Northwest Washington, D.C., I hear the same.

    Yes, yes, it’s all about yard signs. Pay no attention to GOTV. Yard signs! Yard signs will win us the election!

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @NotMax: If you want a vision of the future, imagine a brown arm pulling a metal lever forever.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Bex:
    In what passes for Nooner’s bwaaain, we will all be saved by Zombie Ronaldus Maximus. Everything elase in the meantime is solely for The Little Peoples’ entertainment.

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    Hill Dweller says:

    “I’ve had a foot in my mouth plenty of times, but it’s always been my own!” – David Axelrod jabbing Dick Morris on the prostitution scandal.(Buzzfeed)

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    some guy says:

    I won’t really be happy until we get those FEMA Re-education camps up and running, so the trolls will have some place to spend their “free” time in come November 8th.

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    lacp says:

    Just took a look at an online poll over at philly.com, the Philadelphia Inquirer/Daily News website. It’s currently showing Willard as a 55-44 fave over the President.

    If anybody ever wanted to see an example of exactly how worthless online polls are, this is a good one. Results like those would probably be accurate in some parts of Pennsylvania; they sure as shit aren’t in Philadelphia.

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    Violet says:

    And here’s her slam on Nate Silver and Sam Wang:

    Is it possible this whole thing is playing out before our eyes and we’re not really noticing because we’re too busy looking at data on paper instead of what’s in front of us? Maybe that’s the real distortion of the polls this year: They left us discounting the world around us.

    Yes, yes, we’re too busy looking at numbers and data. Math is hard! Let’s just feel the polls instead of actually reading them.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Violet: IIRC Romney gives out yard signs for free, and Obama doesn’t.

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    NCSteve says:

    Speaking of bizarre things, does anyone know WTF is going on with all these ads telling you to click for the views of “World Teacher Wasabi Hitachi” (or whoever) on the election that are popping up? Or is this just happening to me due to the same halfwitted Google Ads stalker algorithm that thought I was a passionate Romney supporter for several weeks?

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    Spaghetti Lee says:

    @Violet:

    In Florida a few weeks ago I saw Romney signs, not Obama ones. From Ohio I hear the same. From tony Northwest Washington, D.C., I hear the same.

    WHYYYYYYYY is this woman considered a respectable journalist when she writes this garbage every week AAAAAAASDFGHJK.

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    jibeaux says:

    Well, if Peggy Noonan were the only source of information or opinion available to Americans, sure, it would be just like North Korea.

    Yes, she is asinine beyond belief, but maybe let’s not turn this into the liberal version of the Congressman who tweeted all the comparisons between himself and the Arab spring?

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    LAC says:

    @Edward_75: speaking of castration, your mom stil has your gonads in her knitting bag?

    Nothing like Peggy noonan’s nanabobs of nuttery to bring out the troll with changing names.

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    Metrosexual Manichean Monster DougJ says:

    @SFAW:

    I like nice scotch but stay away from the crazy expensive stuff.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Violet: Yes, these days you can’t go anywhere without hearing murmurs about how exciting Mitt Romney is. It’s like the wind whispers “MittRomney.”

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    NotMax says:

    @Violet

    Newsflash for Peggy: Those po’ folk who live in apartments don’t have yard signs out for an obvious reason.

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    Redshift says:

    @Raven: Fortunately, my lifetime, at least I was old enough to understand presidential races, doesn’t extend quite as far as Nixon, so my statement still stands. Even so — yes, that’s one really really big lie. But did Nixon actually engage in Romney’s level of having virtually everything of significance he said on the campaign trail be an easily disprovable lie? If so, I will stand corrected.

    My point was not that Romney’s worse because he lies. It was that the kind of lying he does is different. It’s CEO/advertiser lying, not politician lying.

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    David Koch says:

    Actually Nooners was worst than this.

    yesterday on face the nation she said you can’t judge ohio based on polling, that you have to be there in person to get a “feel” of the situation. Then in the next breath she said the Flordia was going for Romney based on polling.

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    PreservedKillick says:

    @Spaghetti Lee:

    In Florida a few weeks ago I saw Romney signs, not Obama ones. From Ohio I hear the same. From tony Northwest Washington, D.C., I hear the same.

    Come on out to Massachusetts, Peggy. You’ll see about as many Romney signs as Obama signs – and more Scott Brown signs than Warren signs.

    But how do you think the vote’s going to turn out?

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    lacp says:

    Maybe she thinks Willard is going to do a final lap through Ohio with a magic dolphin strapped to the roof of his car.

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    Robin G. says:

    @Violet: To be fair “Lapsed Catholic” is really a denomination all its own.

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    Bex says:

    @Edward_75:@Violet: All those religious right types must’ve been hitting the bran flakes for the past few days…

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Redshift: Agreed. There’s a huge difference between making a bogus promise you can’t keep and just spewing lies that recirculate like the chocolate fountain at Golden Corral.

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    jibeaux says:

    @Violet: There are more than a hundred million votes cast in a presidential election, IIRC. It’s just beyond stupid that you could get a feel for which way the wind is blowing in a national freakin’ election without polls. If you’re talking about commissioner of soil & water conservation, sure, Nooners, knock yourself out. Talk to your cabbie.

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    Cacti says:

    @Violet:

    Yes, yes, we’re too busy looking at numbers and data. Math is hard! Let’s just feel the polls instead of actually reading them.

    We should ignore the polls because Nate Silver is a homo, and math is for homos.

    Pardon me while I turn on the Brawndo to water my lawn.

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    Violet says:

    And here she is telling the President what he should be doing:

    But he’s still trying to fire up the base when he ought to be wooing the center and speaking their calm centrist talk.

    Yes, yes, the calm, centrist talk. That mixed with the blood of Luke Russert and hippie tears is the elixer of the Village.

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    NCSteve says:

    @Violet: Is it possible that all of this boring, elitist “data” and “empiricism” nonsense has blinded us to the homely, homespun truths conveyed by a series of random anecdotes filtered through my conservative confirmation bias and nightly pitcher of gin?

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    Alex S. says:

    @Yutsano:

    Yes! My first thought as well.

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    David Koch says:

    PPP: Our final Colorado (Obama +6) and Nevada (Obama +4) polls.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @David Koch: John King was doing that too. There’s an energy in the Romney HQ, evidently. I think it may have been a poltergeist.

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    sylvan says:

    Best Korea sings songs of VICTORY.

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    LAC says:

    @PeakVT: It’s either that or beat him with brush. And unfortunately the power to slap the shit out of a home schooled idiot is not yet available online. Besides, when the election is over and called for “Kenyan Usurper”, he will be found in his parent’s rec room passed out after guzzling robotussin. He might slip into a coma and then you are going to regret not reaching out to him on this page to tell him to go fuck himself or DIAF, or put down the crack pipe, or just stop being stupid. :)

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    Robin G. says:

    @Violet: What DOES a poll feel like? I’m imagining that borax goop we used to play with in elementary schools.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Robin G.:
    Wow, did he ever bring it. Never thought I see the day when the NFL’s manliest man would be a kicker.

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    jl says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Noonan:”All the vibrations are right”

    Yeah, I saw that too and was afraid to click.

    Thanks goodness this will be over (cross you fingers it ain’t too close) by Wednesday morning.

    On more substantive and interesting news,

    Dark Money Donors Unmasked In California
    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi.....vealed.php

    and the sleazy GOP money machine behind the big last minute money dump into CA election was unmasked. I hope that makes at least a small difference tomorrow.

    Though, the idea of a money dump into CA, rather than out of CA is kind of intriguing. Only wish it was done for good, rather than evile.

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    RareSanity says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Professional athletes…and sports writers. Don’t forget that awesome article over at DeadSpin.

    Say what you will about sports (American sports specifically*), it is a no-nonsense, results driven culture. Either you’re getting the job done, or you’re getting outta town.

    ‘*’ – I say American sports specifically, because I still remember the beer fueled argument I had with a colleague from the U.K., about why American sports fans abhor games ending in ties.

    His argument was distinctly British, by saying that, in soccer, if both teams basically played to a stalemate, it doesn’t really makes sense for one of them to “lose”. I told him that, in America — dammit — you win or you lose. We don’t do that “it’s how you played the game” crap. Which, by the way, is pretty distinctly American. In America, we cheer the winners and lambaste the losers…all the way up until we get tired of one particular winner starts, “winning too much”. Then we start to lambaste the winners and root for the underdogs.

    It really does mirror our forms of government… parliamentary vs. two-party.

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    David Koch says:

    yesterday’s face the nation panel was a great example of liburel media bias. it was Nooners, some worm from National Review and Gergen vs one Dem (the bumbling Dee Dee Myers). 3 to 1/2 — that fair and balanced.

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    KG says:

    @Edward_75: I really hope you are here tomorrow when the results come in. Because, again, if these numbers are right it’s going to be a very bad day to be a Republican.

    Look at the numbers…

    Virginia – 13% voted early, 54-43 for Obama
    Ohio – 38% voted early, 58-38 for Obama
    Florida – 52%(!) voted early, 53-43 for Obama
    Colorado – 70%(holy shit!) voted early, 56-40 for Obama

    Overcoming those numbers is going to take a massive effort.

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    SatanicPanic says:

    @danimal: I’m opening a matchmaker service for all the men who will be required to marry other men. I think that’s going to be a real growth industry

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    JPL says:

    @Redshift: The media lack of coverage of the lies is unprecedented. According to poli-fact both sides do it.

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    Violet says:

    And here Nooners inadvertently sums up the Romney campaign and its relationship with wingnuts:

    Romney ends most rallies with his story of the Colorado scout troop that in 1986 had an American flag put in the space shuttle Challenger, saw the Challenger blow up as they watched on TV, and then found, through the persistence of their scoutmaster, that the flag had survived the explosion. It was returned to them by NASA officials. When Romney, afterward, was shown the flag, he touched it, and an electric jolt went up his arm. It’s a nice story. He doesn’t make its meaning fully clear. But maybe he means it as a metaphor for America: It can go through a terrible time, a catastrophe, as it has economically the past five years, and still emerge whole, intact, enduring.

    Romney says some words that sort of sound nice. He doesn’t say what they mean. Wingnuts apply their own wishes and needs to his words. And voila! A metaphor for America!

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Violet:
    Nobody Peggy Noonan knows is voting for Barack Obama, so the election is obviously going to go for Romney.

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    Redshift says:

    @Violet:

    From tony Northwest Washington, D.C.

    I know they all live in a bubble, but the lack of necessary self-awareness to write a sentence about the significance of seeing Romney signs in an upscale neighborhood is still stunning.

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    Schlemizel says:

    @Violet:
    OH NO, she is right on with this observation.

    Why, just last night I was in line at the Salad bar at Applebees and I heard someone mention they were voting Rmoney/rAyn but not a single soul said they were voting for Obama. Then I was playing bridge with all my social friends and they are all voting RnR. That PROVES IT! 538 EV for Rmoney/rAyn & 0 Obama!

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    Robin G. says:

    @trollhattan: It started when he took it to an MD official over *their* gay marriage stuff. The letter is beautiful to behold. (Side note: Kluwe also plays Warcraft and tweets his thoughts on Ayn Rand while flying to games. I love this guy.)

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    NotMax says:

    @Redshift

    He wasn’t dubbed Tricky Dick for nothing.

    The difference is in the scope. Nixon relied on a handful or so of Big Lies. Also too, no 24-hour broadcast news outlets (and obviously no internet) chirping loudly like hungry baby birds for fresh tidbits then.

    In gross mass of lies, Romney certainly eclipses RMN, IMHO.

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    Ben Cisco says:

    @Violet: Maybe he drinks too.

    After the GOP gets handed their asses, the Village should be next.

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    Enhanced Mooching Techniques says:

    Gods, were we as bad in 2004 as Noonan is here? Yard signs and rumors, just pathetic.

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    LAC says:

    @David Koch: She must be getting her weekly gems from Cokie Roberts while they are braiding each other’s hair,sprinkling hormone replacement sprinkles on their Ben and Jerry ice cream, and waiting for Mara Liasson to show up so that they can play Mystery Date.

    I could do without hearing those hens for a while

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    gbear says:

    @Robin G.: WOW. That is one scorched earth rant. I loves me some Chris Kluwe.

    And I know better than to read the comments in the St Paul PiPress…

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    Full Metal Wingnut says:

    @KG: Is Obama really that far ahead in early voting in Florida? That’s amazing. I thought my state was going red for sure.

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    Culture of Truth says:

    Peggy Noonan, a few days after the election, 2004:

    The Democrats have lost their leader in the Senate, Tom Daschle. I do not know what the Democratic Party spent, in toto, on the 2004 election, but what they seem to have gotten for it is Barack Obama.
    Let us savor.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @RareSanity:
    OTOH, America is also the country where somebody said that some days you win, some days you lose, and some days it rains.

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    Yutsano says:

    @MikeJ: I refuse to do Twitter. Book of Faces is bad enough.

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    EconWatcher says:

    @KG:

    Over at NRO, they’re apparently claiming that the Dems’ lead in early voting just means they’re cannibalizing their election-day votes, and after picking all the low-hanging fruit early, will come up short on election day.

    I admit that I did wonder about that when I read about the heavy emphasis on early voting in the Dem drive. In theory, what they’re positing seems possible.

    In practice, of course, you’d have to have some data to believe that so few Dems will be left to actually show up on election day that the count would swing all the way back to Mitt. And all of the polling data seems to say otherwise.

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    Alex S. says:

    @Cacti:

    The polls are GAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!

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    Hal says:

    This is exactly what many Dems did in 2004. They had “a feeling” that John Kerry was going to run because no one they knew liked Bush.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Redshift:

    But did Nixon actually engage in Romney’s level of having virtually everything of significance he said on the campaign trail be an easily disprovable lie?

    No.

    Romney Style non-stop lying is a new political low. Until the next time.

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    jibeaux says:

    @Redshift: in an upscale neighborhood of a district with 3 electoral votes that probably hasn’t voted Republican in the living memory of anyone currently alive.

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    Chris says:

    @Mike G:

    And nationalism. Lots and lots of nationalism. Our country right or wrong, America/Korea uber alles, all that shit. All pretense to the contrary notwithstanding, the GOP and Korean Workers Party seem to have at least as much in common with simple fascism as they do with Marxism-Leninism or free-market conservatism.

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    the Conster says:

    @PreservedKillick:

    I can honestly say that in my drives through the Metrowest suburbs the past few weeks, I can count the number of Romney yard signs I’ve seen on two hands, and Warren signs vastly outnumber Brown’s. You must live further north.

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    Cacti says:

    @Redshift:

    I know they all live in a bubble, but the lack of necessary self-awareness to write a sentence about the significance of seeing Romney signs in an upscale neighborhood is still stunning.

    Not just an upscale neighborhood, an upscale DC neighborhood.

    Mittens will be lucky if he hits 10% of the vote in DC.

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    Culture of Truth says:

    Wow, did he ever bring it. Never thought I see the day when the NFL’s manliest man would be a kicker.

    But smartest, that does makes sense, doesn’t it?

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    Robin G. says:

    @gbear: God no. It’s a cesspool. I pray daily that Chris Hewitt will jump ship to some other paper, but he hasn’t, and he’s the only movie reviewer I trust.

    The PiPress wasn’t so bad 10 years ago, IIRC. Didn’t they have an ownership change or something?

  135. 135
    Chris says:

    @Tonal Crow:

    My GOD how can it be in AMERICA that RADICAL COMMIE LIB’RAL WHALE-WORSHIPPING, DIRT-EATING, WITCH-SIPPING, LATTE-DRIVING, LIB’RAL LIB’RAL LIB’RAL DEMONRATS like you aren’t SENT to GITMO to ROT with the ATHEIST MUSLIM TERRORISTS that you LOVE????????

    Whale worshipping?

    Was?

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    Raven says:

    @Redshift: He extended well beyond any campaign with he deceit but it really doesn’t matter, your point is well taken,

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    Culture of Truth says:

    From tony Northwest Washington, D.C., I hear the same.

    Everyone I know named Tony is voting for Obama.

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    Violet says:

    @Redshift: Nooners is the very definition of an insulated Villager. She just doesn’t have a clue how The Help lives.

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    gbear says:

    @danimal: Does our troll realize the incredible string of addresses that he’s leaving for us to hunt him down and send him to his designated re-eductaion camp?

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    kay says:

    Embarrassing day for the WSJ:

    A strategist for Sen. John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign said on Monday morning that voter fraud was virtually nonexistent in the U.S. and yet has somehow become part of the Republican “mythology.”

    The WSJ has promoted the voter impersonation fraud myth more effectively than any other media outlet because they have a veneer of credibility. John Fund is one of the top voter fraud grifters, and he started at that paper and is currently promoted by that paper.

    Other media people refer to Fund as a “journalist”, so I have to assume they approve of his promoting this complete fucking lie for ten years (with the help of the WSJ and Fox News). They’re all on board for this “journalist” making shit up.

    Just disgusting. I don’t know how they live with themselves.

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    Flukebucket says:

    @Redshift:

    I have kept up pretty closely with politics since 1976 and I have never in my life seen a Presidential candidate lie like the current Republican nominee. I once made the mistake of saying that it had made me think less of Mormons and that is not true. It has made me think less of the Mormon religion though. It just seems to me that the elders of that church would call Mitt in and say, “Damn man. Tone it down a little bit!”

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    Brachiator says:

    @LAC:

    She must be getting her weekly gems from Cokie Roberts while they are braiding each other’s hair,sprinkling hormone replacement sprinkles on their Ben and Jerry ice cream, and waiting for Mara Liasson to show up so that they can play Mystery Date.

    Good one. Nooners and Cokie also reminds me of the mean girls of Sugar Rush in the new, immensely enjoyable Disney film, Wreck-it Ralph.

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    Redshift says:

    @EconWatcher: Undoubtedly some of the votes are ones that would have been cast on election day (like mine.) But combined with the massive effort to contact less-frequent voters, it’s whistling past the graveyard to believe that’s all of it. (And even more so if you consider that they’re ignoring the infrequent GOP voters they failed to get out to vote early.)

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    JustRuss says:

    @Violet: It’s quite simple: Religious Catholics are conservative. Liberal Catholics, like all liberals, are atheists. Or Muslims. Or both (see Obama, Barack).

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    JPL says:

    @Hal: nope.. early voting polls showed a Kerry victory. Why do I remember, because I was devastated after he lost. This election looks good but it’s not over til it’s over.

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    Schlemizel says:

    @Robin G.:

    I grew up reading the PPD and they were horrible papers then. It was a revelation when I first started getting the Minneapolis Star and the Tribune (I had a 2 paper per day habit back then).

    That they have gottne worse is no surprise as even the quality papers are in a race to the bottom, The StarTrib is unreadable now.

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    Flukebucket says:

    @Chris:

    Whale worshipping?

    Outlaw Jersey Whale?

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    Baron Jrod of Keeblershire says:

    I think he’s stealing in “like a thief with good tools,” in Walker Percy’s old words.

    Yes, and those tools would be John Husted and Tagg’s voting machines.

    Seriously Nooners? I know you’re fucking crazy, but to say that Romney is like a thief with good tools when Republicans are obviously working to steal the election? Since when is Peggy so honest?

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    Culture of Truth says:

    Does Volve make a “Latte” ?

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    some guy says:

    The GOTV/Early Vote effort in Florida was directed (predominantly in my town) at infrequent voters, so probably a pretty low percentage of E-day voters were cannibalized.

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    KG says:

    @Full Metal Wingnut: that’s what the Rueters/Ipso poll has been showing for the last 3-4 days, fairly consistently. I don’t know if this is as accurate as exit polling, but I find it very interesting.

    @EconWatcher: an interesting theory, but I think what matters is that you GOTV however you can. If it means early voting, great; absentee, fine; election day, go go go. And personally, I’d rather have a big lead in early voting going in then to be behind. To use a baseball analogy, it’s like being up 5-0 in the seventh inning, that doesn’t mean you’re going to win, but it makes it a metric shitton more likely that you will.

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    MikeJ says:

    @Yutsano:

    @MikeJ: I refuse to do Twitter. Book of Faces is bad enough.

    I don’t do the book of faces, and I don’t have a twitter account (the last thing I want is something else to be logged into, constantly sending telemetry on what websites I visit back to the mothership). I do read a few people on twitter now and then though.

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    LD50 says:

    You do have to give Noonan credit for one thing tho — not everyone can parlay a lifetime of unresolved daddy issues into such an easy yet lucrative career.

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    geg6 says:

    @El Cid:

    Yup. Hell, I’d love to see them turn out in force in small town Beaver Falls or Aliquippa. And try to intimidate any of the minority voters there.

    Ah, the hilarity! Yes, there would be blood and tears. But only for fat, pasty old men on hoverounds.

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    GxB says:

    @Spaghetti Lee:

    WHYYYYYYYY is this woman considered a respectable journalist when she writes this garbage every week

    Are you kidding? It’s a prerequisite to get a gig (in America) these days. I share your pain though – but the wingnut welfare gravy train has to run out of coal someday. Pity we’ll just have a flooded, spent wasteland left to try to rebuild from.

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    Schlemizel says:

    @gbear:

    You joke, but, me personally? I think we have run this whole democracy thing into the ground and over the last 4 years have decided that reeducation camps are too good for most of these people. I am currently in favor of specially created voting booths for the next election. You step in and close the door. If you select a wingnut candidate the floor opens beneath you and you fall into a large whirling meat grinder.

    Not only would it reduce the population of the US by about 25% it would be the dumbest 25% so a win all around.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @KG:
    I think their numbers are breaking down at the edges with the advance voting, or at least that their likely voter screen is flawed. The clearest example is that they report that 676 of 974 voters in Colorado pass their likely voter screen (69.4%) but that 70% of the people interviewed have already voted. That means some people they’re screening out with their likely voter screen are self reporting as already having voted. That means their likely voter screen is probably too strict, which is a good sign for Obama and the Democrats generally, since they almost always do better with registered voters than likely voters.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @Keith: I recalled watching her on MSNBC when Palin was announced as McCain’s VP. She looked genuinely shocked. Of course, she came around to supporting them. I’m sure she’s intelligent enough to have figured out that Palin was an idiot and extremely unqualified.

    This whole “polls don’t matter” meme is reckless. What will she say tomorrow at midnight when President Obama has been re-elected.

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    Schlemizel says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Wasn’t she was caught saying the Palin pick doomed the campaign because she thought they had gone to commercial?

    Of course she had a different story when she was back live. I would have thought that hurt her career but no

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    MikeJ says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    What will she say tomorrow at midnight when President Obama has been re-elected.

    Black Panthers. ACORN.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @EconWatcher:

    Over at NRO, they’re apparently claiming that the Dems’ lead in early voting just means they’re cannibalizing their election-day votes, and after picking all the low-hanging fruit early, will come up short on election day.

    They’re just whistling Dixie (in more ways than one). One of the major goals of the Democratic GOTV effort has been to get unlikely voters to vote early. There are still plenty of Democrats left who are going to turn out on Election Day.

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    Hill Dweller says:

    I got 99 problems but Mitt ain’t one…

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    Paul says:

    Peggy Noonan? She is the same person who wrote this garbage on March 24, 2003:

    “Iraq’s liberation will be the biggest good thing to happen since 9/11…The American president has, meanwhile, demonstrated to the entire world that he is neither a bombastic naïf nor a reckless cowboy but, in fact, another kind of American stereotype: the steely-eyed rocket man”.

    She has no credibility. I could care less what she has to say about the election.

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    gbear says:

    @some guy: I should have scrolled down before posting comment 138. Both thinking the same thing. It must be true.

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    LanceThruster says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    I’m sure she’s intelligent enough to have figured out that Palin was an idiot and extremely unqualified.

    For myself…I’m not so sure.

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    geg6 says:

    @Violet:

    I’ve been saying this for weeks. The only sign of any sort of GOTV on the ground here in Western PA is fucking yard signs. Meanwhile, hundreds of OFA volunteers have knocked on pretty much every single Dem or lean-Dem door in the tri-state (PA, OH, WV) area. And I, myself, have been getting phone calls from OFA phone bankers in Oregon and Georgia.

    But yard signs will win the day!

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    JPL says:

    @Patricia Kayden: She was hilarious when she thought the mike was off. She is paid for being a good repub and that is all.

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    @LD50: You forgot MoDo.

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    EconWatcher says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Damn right. I’m one of them (Virginia does not liberally allow early voting).

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @LD50: You have met Maureen Dowd, yes?

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    Edward_75 says:

    @KG:

    I’ll be right here. Guess what? Idiots like you were trumpeting the 2004 exit polls, and Kerry got CRUSHED. Early vote numbers for Obama are what the exit polls were for Kerry…I can’t wait to rub your nose in the stinking shit of the Obambi presidency–the first incumbent president to lose an election in twenty years…my GOD this will be so sweeeet!

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    Redshift says:

    @Raven: I am extremely grateful that we’re not going to find out whether Romney would more dishonest in office than Nixon.

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    Emma says:

    @Robin G.: That was the ass-kicking of a lifetime. Wow.

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    lamh35 says:

    ‎”I Got 99 Problems and Mitt ain’t 1″!!!

    “If Jeezy’s paying LeBron, I’m paying Nate Silver” — Jay Z

    Jay Z at a rally for POTUS right now in Columbus, OH.

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    Otterbee says:

    People don’t like it when you say that because it’s dumb and doesn’t make any sense

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    Schlemizel says:

    See thats why reeducation camps are too good for them 8-{D

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    geg6 says:

    @David Koch:

    some worm from National Review

    Rich Lowry! The guy who La Palin sent starbursts to through his teevee! Why anyone would take this man seriously after that admission to how he masturbates during political season is a mystery to me.

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    gbear says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Yes, these days you can’t go anywhere without hearing murmurs about how exciting Mitt Romney is. It’s like the wind whispers “MittRomney.”

    You might say the Romney campaign is breaking wind…

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    West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.) says:

    @Edward_75: You’re like a child who hides his face behind his hands and thinks he won’t be seen. Changing your name doesn’t hide your idiocy.

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    me says:

    Needs more categories.

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    Full Metal Wingnut says:

    @Edward_75: In what parallel universe was Kerry crushed? It was a landslide compared to 2000, but it was still ridiculously close.

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    Ash Can says:

    Poor Peggy. Now see, boys and girls? This is what happens to your brain when you guzzle cheap vodka for breakfast.

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    Humanities Grad says:

    @JPL:

    I do believe there are a couple of major differences between 2004 and 2012, though.

    First, the 2004 election day results weren’t “early voting polls,” they were exit polls. I believe “early voting” as it exists now was virtually nonexistent in 2004. Exit polls are a different animal, and considered to be less reliable.

    Second, IIRC, national polling data in 2004 was pretty clearly showing that Bush was ahead of Kerry–at least where it mattered. Yes, it was clear that if Kerry could swing either Ohio or Florida, he’d win, but he was an underdog (if not a prohibitive one) in both going into election day. This year it appears that Obama is a significant favorite in Ohio, and also in enough other swing states that it’d take something really strange happening for Romney to win.

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    Tony J says:

    @Culture of Truth:

    Well I would, but there’s that whole “Being English” thing that always gets in the way.

    Maybe when Obama ushers in the UN Global Government the wingnuts have been promising for decades I’ll get to vote for him as Supreme Chairperson. Would that do?

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    Keith G says:

    People don’t like it when I say this,

    What people? When?

    Seems to me, you and Peggs have a bit in common.

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    beltane says:

    I’m in a sage blue state but I have noticed far fewer Romney signs than there were McCain signs 4 years ago. Maybe they’re embarrassed.

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    trollhattan says:

    @kay:
    Fund and some other Republian douche I don’t know were on Maher a couple of weeks back and were in full shouty mode, to the point of going after Taibbi for having the nerve, THE NERVE to say unkind things about Jamie Dimon and his felonous cohorts. Fund usually keeps himself composed in enemy territury but not this time.

    And I think they actually believe their own shit.

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    Chyron HR says:

    @Edward_75:

    Do the holy Mormon scriptures command you to be a coprophiliac, or is that your own nauseating spin on Joseph Smith’s teachings?

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    trollhattan says:

    @trollhattan:
    Jeez, nice spelling…not, and no edit button in sight. [mutter, mutter]

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    JPL says:

    @Humanities Grad: Thanks for the correction.

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    Matthew Reid Krell says:

    @Edward_75: Keep in mind that True the Vote is pretty explicitly a 42 U.S.C. 1985 violation. So please, continue enjoying your special time with that Rhode Island Red.

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    Culture of Truth says:

    @Tony J: capital idea old chap

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    trollhattan says:

    @Edward_75:
    Am sure a special banhammer suspension is available JUST FOR YOU for 24 hours of crow consumption, Wednesday, should you be man enough to pull up a chair at the Applebee’s Crow Bar. [heh, he said…]

    You aren’t; you won’t.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @Paul: She wrote that?

    One thing I can say for people like Charles Johnson, Andrew Sullivan and John Cole is that while they may have been on the wrong side for many years, they graciously came over to the good side and admit their past errors.

    People like Noonan will unapologetically go down telling lies, never admitting that they were wrong.

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    TerryC says:

    @Full Metal Wingnut: I’m Tarik Khaldun.

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    hueyplong says:

    Noonan had a column due today. She had to write something, and analysis of the polling numbers wasn’t exactly in her self interest.

    So she untarded a few of Edward_75’s lines, lost the bold print and caps lock FUBARs, et voila, something that was well within the margin of Chardonnay error.

    Another day’s work done.

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    Bitter Scribe says:

    @Edward_75: You guys sure do a lot of gloating over things that haven’t happened.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Violet: Democrats GOTV, Republicans steal yard signs.

    Step 1: Steal Yard Signs
    Step 2: ???
    Step 3: Sell more yard signs to looney libs. They never learn!

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    Cacti says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Over at NRO, they’re apparently claiming that the Dems’ lead in early voting just means they’re cannibalizing their election-day votes, and after picking all the low-hanging fruit early, will come up short on election day.

    This comes from the same school of logic as “votes from high-school educated white males count the most”.

    Votes is votes. But understanding that means understanding arithmetic, and math is gay.

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    Chasseur says:

    if he wins it’s more likely he’s a tool with good thieves.

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    Chyron HR says:

    @Bitter Scribe:

    It’s not like he’ll be able to gloat after the election. So when is he supposed to gloat, huh?

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @FlipYrWhig: I’m pretty sure that’s after you sign the contract in blood.

    There were plenty of free signs passing around our Dem haunts, not always exactly when people wanted them, but they showed up, free bumperstickers, too, but months ago the local R’s would not even give up so much as an Aquafresh window sticker.

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    28 Percent says:

    So she noticed that yard signs in Palm Springs and Boca Raton trend Republican and she has a sense that the Religious Right, who were always going to turn out and always going to vote for Romney and nobody in their right minds ever thought that they wouldn’t turn out and vote for Romney, that after having six months to get used to the idea they’ve come around to the point that they won’t be holding their noses while they do it… (they’ve come all the way from “not actively hostile” to “just past lukewarm” – momentum!)

    What about the cabbies? Isn’t anybody interviewing cabbies anymore? How do we really get to Nobody Knows Anything if we don’t know what Nooner’s driver thinks about the election?

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    Tod Kelly says:

    “broadcasting the rantings of Nooners isn’t that different from what goes in North Korea.”

    Doug:

    ???

    So allowing people to write or say stupid shit in the media – even something as stupid as what Noonan said there – is us being just like North Korea, and… I’m extrapolating in the dark here, so apologies if I’m off… screening people to decide who is and isn’t allowed to write or say stupid shit in the media, that would be the opposite of North Korea.

    I’m misreading this, yes?

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Enhanced Mooching Techniques: Joy Reid on UP on Sunday said they were comparing ground games, and the GOP’s wasn’t visible to them. (And I’m sorry to say I didn’t do shit, although I did register and show up to vote.)

    I dunno, I guess I was less surprised because incumbents tend to have an advantage and the recession seemed to be over?

    Then all of a sudden in 2006, nooooobody voted for W. Right.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Chasseur: if he wins it’s more likely he’s a tool with good thieves.

    +1

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Culture of Truth: I thought you were snarking, but Google finally yielded it up on WSJ.com. Wow. She gets paid for that rambling, disjointed insanity.

    Whatever you do, don’t savor.

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    LAC says:

    @Edward_75: Of course you will be right here…your village idiot shift hasn’t ended yet and your Dad is running late.

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    Death Panel Truck says:

    @Paul:

    She has no credibility. I couldn’t care less what she has to say about the election.

    Fixed.

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