10 days

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It is GOTV time. Click the links to connect with the Obama Campaign in the following States:

Iowa  •  New Hampshire   •   Colorado   •   Nevada    •   Ohio

Virginia   •   Florida   •   Wisconsin   •   North Carolina

For all the other states visit vote.barackobama.com to find out how and where to vote and how you can help GOTV.

Over at GOS they’ve teamed up with Worker’s Voice to run a GOTV effort that you can plug into at this link.

There are many other GOTV efforts underway for Senate races, Congressional races and ballot initiatives that could use your mojo as well. Odds are good that you live in a state with at least one of these races. Control of the Senate is on the line and here is a list of the House races Democrats could win if we can GOTV.

Early voting began in Maryland today. I plan to vote Sunday (one step ahead of Sandy) and first thing Friday morning I’m off to Ohio.

We can’t leave anything on the table. We only have ten days.

The fact that Romney even has a 26% chance of victory should motivate you into action. Now is the time to act.

What are your GOTV plans?

Cheers

________

ps: John was spot on about Stoller. We are plagued with self-important white males pretending to speak for progressives even as they work overtime to block and damage any liberal progress. It is hard for me to read Stoller and not wonder if his real problem with Barack Obama is this and not any policy. Assholes like him make the GOTV effort even more important.

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199 replies
  1. 1
    redshirt says:

    Those state signs are awesome. Reminding us all, once again: Florida: Flaccid penis of the USA.

  2. 2
    MikeBoyScout says:

    Flying into Denver on Wednesday.
    Knocking doors in King Co WA tomorrow.

  3. 3
    Andrew says:

    Is VA canvassing still going on tomorrow? I was going to volunteer but decided not to when I heard about the storm.

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    Hal says:

    We are plagued with sell-important white males pretending to speak for progressives even as they work overtime to block and damage any liberal progress.

    I have a friend who I love dearly, but dude cannot get over voting for the Green Party, and constantly insisting that Obama is the same as whatever generic Republican is out. If only we would vote for Nader Mckinney Stein, the world would be perfect.

  5. 5
    DB says:

    @Andrew: Don’t know where you are, Andrew, but i canvassed in Charlottesville today. Tim Kaine will be at the Obama headquarters here (29N if anyone is looking), so I think canvassing is on tomorrow!

    I hate canvassing, but YES WE CAN! The storm apparently starts in earnest tomorrow evening, so do be careful.

  6. 6
    gex says:

    Gee, wonder why animus towards blacks has increased over the last four years. Could it be the non-stop arguments that amount to nothing more than blackity-black-black-black?

  7. 7
    Andrew says:

    @DB: Silver Spring. I shall make the call!

  8. 8
    Joel says:

    Phone banking in WA state. Just my small piece for GOTV.

  9. 9

    OT early so sorry but people were asking for pics of my new wonderful rotisserie/toaster oven so here it is.

    http://img.photobucket.com/alb.....C03056.jpg

    And this shot shows the neato top that allows you to cook food on the top with just the residual heat from the oven.

    http://img.photobucket.com/alb.....C03055.jpg

    Like I said, I did a rotisserie chicken today, complete with roasted potatoes in the drip tray beneath the chicken and steamed cabbage and green beans in the top. A whole meal with one counter top appliance. How cool is that?

    ETA sorry I linked to thumbnails, if you need bigger shots then please let me know.

  10. 10
    JoyfulA says:

    I love canvassing but have had my leg in a brace for a torn knee tendon since August. Somebody go for me and have a great time!

  11. 11
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Those map pieces look kind of familiar. I think I might have had the same USA puzzle map when I was a kid.

    I can figure out all the agricultural/industrial/extractive icons except one: that scribbly black thing in Nevada’s southern point. What is that supposed to be?

  12. 12
    Sparrowgal says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Hey, that’s nifty!! I have just about the same model (or so it appears), sans rotisserie skewer, though it has the functionality built in. I also got mine from a thrift store about a decade ago ($18), and it’s mostly still growing strong. I’ve always regretted not being able to cook a chicken on a spit, but the convection part of my Hamilton Beach pretty much rocks. Good find!

  13. 13
    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason says:

    Second round of canvassing in South PA today. I’ve been finding either a) no one home or b) rabid Obama supporters. Quite gratifying.

    I told at least 4 people today where their poling place was (wrote it down for them) and reminded everyone that they don’t need a photo ID for this election.

    Another round tomorrow, then next weekend, then whatever they want me to do on election day.

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    MikeJ says:

    @MikeBoyScout:

    Knocking doors in King Co WA tomorrow.

    I’ve had a fun time with lege candidates, both a Repub and a Democrat.

    Knock knock
    They: Hi, I’m namehere and I’m running for state legislator.
    Me: Are you a liberal?
    They: err, no, I uhm….
    Me: You can go fuck yourself.

    I did apologize to the Democrat, but it was fun anyway.

  16. 16
    Joel says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Scribbly black thing has to be Hoover Dam, dunnit?

  17. 17
    Robin G. says:

    Because of Obamacare, I can get health insurance if I lose what I’ve got. If Romney gets elected, I can’t, and would almost certainly be dead within a year.

    Stoller can go fuck himself.

  18. 18
    Dennis G. says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: The Hoover Dam.

    The pieces are from a wooden puzzle back when there were 48 states. It is called a Commercial Map of the United States.

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  20. 20
    Raven says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: I think that is a convection oven.

  21. 21
    TaMara (BHF) says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Yes, bigger pictures please. Love the idea of one appliance, whole meal.

    As far as GOTV, I tried in 2008 and realized I’m pretty bad at it. I’m doing what I can, but I don’t think me on the other end of the phone or door with strangers is good for any candidate. I don’t exactly exude confidence. I’m in awe of those who can do it well. I applaud you.

    So it’s money, bumper stickers and yard signs and facebook links.

    I did help several people make sure they were registered to vote and sign up for mail ballots. I’m better at that end.

  22. 22
    Raven says:

    @lamh35:

    “Early voting lines were long Saturday across metro Atlanta as thousands took advantage of the weather and opportunity to cast ballots ahead of the Nov. 6 presidential election.

    From voter registration offices in Rockdale County and south Fulton County to offices in north Fulton, Cobb and Gwinnett, lines often wrapped around buildings and extended along sidewalks, observers and postings on Twitter said.”

  23. 23
    JenJen says:

    Would love to do a Buckeye meet-up while Dennis is here. Driving to Columbus is fine with me. Is anything in the works?

  24. 24
    Davis X. Machina says:

    @Dennis G.: It was made through the 60’s because I wasn’t born until ’57, and I remember all those icons… They added Hawaii and Alaska, of course, but it was a long time ago –Alaska without an icon for oil, and Hawaii without one for birth certificates.

  25. 25
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @redshirt:

    :-)

  26. 26
    Dennis G. says:

    @JenJen: Not yet, but we should be able to pull something together. Who else will be there?

  27. 27
    General Stuck says:

    Good enough time to make a state battleground prediction.

    We win Ohio, NV, WI, IA, and VA

    The wingnuts win Florida and NC.

    CO – tossup, but that won’t matter.

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    Spatula says:

    It is hard for me to read Stoller and not wonder if his real problem with Barack Obama is this and not any policy.

    You really ought to be ashamed of yourself, douche.

    Unfortunately, folks like you who use RAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCISSSSSSSSSSTTTTT as a catch-all, fall back, all purpose accusation, are taking the punch out of the accusation when it actually fits the circumstances.

    Ass hole.

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    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason says:

    @TaMara (BHF): My wife, who hates phones and door knocking, is doing data entry for the phone bankers and canvassers. Give them a call, maybe they need help in your area.

  30. 30
    redshirt says:

    I iz in moderation earlier for using the P*nis word, just as in a previous thread I was stupid enough to say Nixon was a good P*ker player. I blame myself, mind you. I should know the Forbidden words!

  31. 31
    Donut says:

    It is hard for me to read Stoller and not wonder if his real problem with Barack Obama is this and not any policy.

    I started to post something about this, more lengthy and kinda wonky, when John Cole first put up that thread, but I got depressed, albeit momentarily, and gave up…

    @Hal:

    …because there are so many people like Hal’s friend, who are just so stubbornly, willfully ignorant of the harm they’re doing.

    These people are the mirror image of the austerians. They want everyone to feel the pain, too, but for different reasons. Fucking pathetic assholes, all of them.

    I have two little kids to care for, and not much free time to do GOTV (I’d have to spend hours in the car go up to WI to have an impact, living where I do). But dammit I am giving all the dough I can afford this time.

  32. 32
    General Stuck says:

    @TaMara (BHF):

    I’m kind of doing poorly right now with bad feet and hearing. Maybe you and I can do the worrying. Because somebody needs to.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Joel:
    @Dennis G.:

    Hoover Dam, of course, duh. Thanks. The only thing I could make it look like was a badly-drawn bison with a barcode on its side.

    I was 17-18 years old before we added AK and HI, so would have grown up with a puzzle map of just the 48. I think maybe the Commercial Map was a grade school classroom fixture.

  34. 34
    Johnny Coelacanth says:

    Hey, Spitoon’s back. Tell us more about how ugly Lena Dunham is. Wotta scag, amiright?

  35. 35
    kay says:

    If anyone is in the Ft Wayne Indiana area and wants to help in Ohio, they could use you in Henry and Defiance Counties.

    They need you for the last 4 days of GOTV.

    Either call Ohio OFA or just show up. Both counties have field offices. Henry or Defiance, any of the last 4 days, including election day.

    These are GOP Counties, predominently. It’s about an hour, hour and a half (depending) from Ft. Wayne.

  36. 36
    Kane says:

    When do the talking-heads begin prognosticating about 2016?

  37. 37
    Rosie Outlook says:

    You folks have persuaded me that Obama is the lesser evil, on the merits of the Obamacare issue and the stories thereof that very sick people have told here. Your Internets are in the mail, one for each of you.

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    JPL says:

    Matt Stoller proved he was irrelevant a long time ago so why spend time discussing him.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Donut: Yeah, I don’t think it’s race in Stoller’s case. We went through this in 2000, 2004, we’ll go through it again in 2016. I think Stoller is one of those willfully infantile fantasists who choose to think that if people only knew about Dennis!, he’d win 48 states!

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    Raven says:

    @Johnny Coelacanth: Fuckin weasel never goes far. I made decided today I’ll never engage the weasel again and I feel better already.

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    lamh35 says:

    So after all that hoopla over the OTR interview by Obama, the DMR endorsed Romney…and get this because:

    Which candidate could forge the compromises in Congress to achieve these goals? When the question is framed in those terms, Mitt Romney emerges the stronger candidate.

    WTF! Whatever, DMR, whatever.

    Obama up 4+ in VA, I’m betting the foreign policy debate hit home for the military wing of the VA.

    WaPo Poll: Obama Still Above 50 Percent, Holds 4-Point Lead In Virginia

  42. 42
    dmsilev says:

    I think Stoller’s main problem with Obama is residual bitterness from the 2008 primary. That’s more or less when he abandoned sanity and went around the bend. I don’t think race really has much if anything to do with it.

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    Johnny Coelacanth says:

    Probably wise. I’m betting Spork and Realist are the same troll anyway.

  44. 44
    dmsilev says:

    @Kane:

    When do the talking-heads begin prognosticating about 2016?

    10:01 PM on November 6th.

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    MikeJ says:

    I didn’t catch Michelle on Kimmel. Until now. Thanks youtube!
    Part I
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6jND9eiqbk
    Part II
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn3he2M8KbQ
    GOTV schtick
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMCeeGGLrBw

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @lamh35: D.W. Griffith warned the white folk about that in Birth Of A Nation.

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    Johnny Coelacanth says:

    @dmsilev: “”residual bitterness from the 2008 primary””

    So, leftover PUMA. It’s what’s for dinner.

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    JPL says:

    @lamh35: The paper normally endorses democrats for President but they did endorse Nixon.
    When I read that I cringed.

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    Dennis G. says:

    @Spatula: Feelings hurt? sorry

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    @Sparrowgal: @TaMara (BHF):

    Like I said this thing is awesome, and the great part is for a Thrift Store find it came with all the extras for cooking just about everything.

    Bigger pictures

    http://img.photobucket.com/alb.....C03056.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/alb.....C03055.jpg

    It easily cooked a 7.5lb chicken this evening which turned out to be super moist and delicious, I discovered that it has an automatic “rest” feature where it stops the cooking five minutes before the timer goes off to let the meat rest, and the top cooking part of it easily steamed half a head of cabbage and a bunch of green beans without using any additional power. Using traditional methods I would have had to heat up the entire kitchen with the full size oven for the chicken and the roasted potatoes and then had to use the burners for the cabbage and the green beans.

    I love this thing.

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    beltane says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’m not so sure about that. The only dealings I’ve ever had with Matt Stoller were on DKos in 2008 where he accused me of being sexist because I supported Obama over Hillary (I am a woman mind you). He said I had no idea of the struggles upper middle class white women like his mother had to endure and that all else paled in comparison.

    He was right. Upper middle class status is something I will only attain in my wildest dreams so the struggles of upper class white women are really beyond my understanding.

  52. 52
    lamh35 says:

    @JPL: I thought the DMR was actually a conservative paper even though they endorsed Obama last time I believe

  53. 53
    Democrat Partisan Asshole says:

    Probably wise. I’m betting Spork and Realist are the same troll anyway.

    @Johnny Coelacanth: Dunno. Realist’s never posted about how awesome it would have been to have been assraped by Sandusky, something we sadly cannot say about our least favorite kitchen utensil.

  54. 54
    beltane says:

    @dmsilev: We will certainly be told that Paul Ryan is the frontrunner for 2016 and that the Democrats have no one on their bench who can match his awesomeness.

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    dmsilev says:

    By the way, people should read Nate Silver’s latest. He looked at the accuracy of 10-day-prior polls compared to the actual result. Short version: With one exception (Texas in 1992), every well-polled (3 or more different polling firms) state with a lead of 2 points or more at 10 days out, the polls accurately reflected the winner.

    That’s Iowa, Nevada, Ohio, and Wisconsin for Obama, and North Carolina for Romney, with the rest being toss-up. Those are good odds.

  56. 56
    Johnny Coelacanth says:

    “When the question is framed in those terms, Mitt Romney emerges the stronger candidate.”

    Of course. Romney’s not a ni-CLANG! so he’ll find very little opposition from the House.

  57. 57
    Kane says:

    Sahar Massachi @sayhar
    5. Obama has $1billion to convince us to support everything about him. We have @matthewstoller to remind us to only support justice.
    Retweeted by matthewstoller

    Anyone with a blog can find someone on the Internet to lavish them with praise. But the fact that Stoller would retweet this says a great deal about how he sees himself.

  58. 58
    Schlemizel says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    Try uploading the photo to google image – it worked really well for my drawings.

    Made calls over to Wisconsin last night & am going to get some more numbers for next week. My responses have been mostly very positive & none have been pro-Rmoney. A couple people got miffed about being called but you have to expect that.

  59. 59
    Spatula says:

    @Dennis G.:

    Nope. Just calling you out. Your arguments are so weak you have to resort to raaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccciiiisssssttttt or you have nothing to say.

    Go ring some more doorbells and annoy the hell out of people.

    Although I’m guessing your line of bullshit is actually hurting Obama’s bottom line, so maybe you should stay home after all.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @beltane: A PUMA turned Naderite? Why not? I didn’t read Stoller’s snivel, but the post at LGM does say he goes to the old Eschatron trope of Obama being secretly anti-choice (Sotomayor and Kagan, too, of course)

  61. 61
    JPL says:

    @lamh35: I normally don’t read the paper so I have no idea but at the end of the endorsement was this
    1960: Richard Nixon (R) – lost
    • 1964: Lyndon B. Johnson (D) – won
    • 1968: Hubert Humphrey (D) – lost
    • 1972: Richard Nixon (R) – won
    • 1976: Jimmy Carter (D) – won
    • 1980: Jimmy Carter (D) – lost
    • 1984: Walter Mondale (D) – lost
    • 1988: Michael Dukakis (D) – lost
    • 1992: Bill Clinton (D) – won
    • 1996: Bill Clinton (D) – won
    • 2000: Al Gore (D) – lost
    • 2004: John Kerry (D) – lost
    • 2008: Barack Obama (D) – won

  62. 62
    Johnny Coelacanth says:

    “how awesome it would have been to have been assraped by Sandusky” Eh, I’m guessing every red blooded ‘murkin conservative secretly wants to be pounded by a football coach. It directly addresses their authoritarian daddy issues.

  63. 63
    lamh35 says:

    @lamh35: from the WashPo polls

    WaPo poll: 70% of Obama supporters in Virginia are enthusiastic but only 56% of Romney’s supporters are.

  64. 64
    Schlemizel says:

    @Johnny Coelacanth:

    You just noticed? I have suspect that for some time

  65. 65
    Baud says:

    @lamh35:

    Unpossible. They told me I was discouraged.

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    dmsilev says:

    @lamh35: A lot of Romney’s voters are voting against Obama, not for Romney. Sort of a mirror image of 2004 in a way, and that didn’t work out so well (unfortunately) for Kerry.

  67. 67
    kay says:

    @lamh35:

    They will never, ever give up on the dream of a moderate Republican. Never. We are going to be hearing about Eisenhower Republicans until we die. They did the same thing with Bush in 2000. He was the MBA President, the Reformer Who Gets Results. They will never learn.

  68. 68
    Johnny Coelacanth says:

    @Spatula: “raaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccciiiisssssttttt” ya know, Spackle, the only people; and I mean The Only people I ever see use that construction is conservative assholes like Michelle Malkin and other racists. You’re a gay progressive like I’m an antedeluvian fish.

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    amk says:

    Thanks Dennis. For not writing off any of these states.

  70. 70
    Spatula says:

    @Democrat Partisan Asshole:

    I’m betting Spork and Realist are the same troll anyway.

    Ha!

    You’re the most dangerous kind: You think you’re clever but you’re incredibly stupid.

  71. 71
    dmsilev says:

    @kay: On the other hand the “pro-business” Chicago Tribune (re-)endorsed Obama, basically calling Romney a flip-flopping weathervane that nobody should trust.

  72. 72
    Spatula says:

    @Johnny Coelacanth:

    Actually I’m a Liberal, douche breath.

    And you, like JC, are likely a Nixon/Rockefeller Republican which makes you quite comfortable in today’s Democratic party.

  73. 73
    Dennis G. says:

    @lamh35: I’ve spent a lot of time in Des Moines. I think this choice was made because the Publisher was getting pressure at Wakanda Country Club. The 1% of Des Moines is like the 1% elsewhere.

    What was amazing about the endorsement was how poorly thought out it was. They offered zero details to support their case. It was a word salad and an embarrassment. The DMR, like many other newspapers, is just a shadow of the paper it used to be. It only exists to feed off the Primary Caucus revenue. When it goes belly up, few will care. This lazy endorsement of a fantasy Mitt will just speed up the paper’s demise.

    Now if we could just kill the entire Iowa goes first bullshit…

  74. 74
    lamh35 says:

    @JPL: ahh, I went back and read what I was referencing and what it says is that the paper was bought out by a Repub owner sometime in the past 4 years, so the Mitt endorsement was not surprise to the person I talked to.

    They suspect that all the hoopla over the OTR with DMR instigating it, was to create buzz so that when they endorsed Romney it would be bigger news I guess.

  75. 75
    efgoldman says:

    @Robin G.:

    Because of Obamacare, I can get health insurance if I lose what I’ve got.

    I’m 67, but my wife is only 58. I’m working to 70 to keep her covered on my decent company plan (and also because the SS payout is a good bit more per month.) I didn’t know what we were going to do when I retire and she isn’t yet medicare eligible; she has a bunch of pre-existing conditions. So this is all a tremendous relief.

    If the GOBP keeps the House (‘m assuming the Dems keep the Senate) they’ll probably vote another several dozen times (once a week, do you think?) to repeal. Don’t ANY of their goddamned constituents benefit from the law?

  76. 76
    Baud says:

    @kay:

    They will never, ever give up on the dream of a moderate Republican.

    They want a government that promotes Democratic values; they just don’t want it to benefit everyone else. That’s what moderate Republican means to them.

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    scav says:

    New motto. When I think a kitchen utential’s opinion on anything would be interesting, I’ll go to very own junk drawer. Got a nice one there, good quality, mensa level in intelligence (comparatively speaking) and can manage the heat when I’m making sauces.

    I likw the state with nothing but the star dropping into the shoe. Doctor who episode, clearly, but is it the Weeping Angels ot the Vasta Nerada or something weirder yet?

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    may says:

    New Hampshire may be small, but no name and a shoe?

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    Johnny Coelacanth says:

    Back on topic, I already early votereded here in Nevada (straight Democratic ticket; in non partisan races where I was unfamiliar with the candidates, I chose the name that sounded least like it would belong to a white male). On my day off next week I’ll try to do some GOTVing but single-dad status complicates the logistics.

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    Raven says:

    @efgoldman: I thought the SS topped out at 67?

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    Raven says:

    @scav: See that’s the thing, ban it and it comes back. Shun the motherfucker and it won’t matter what it says.

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    Schlemizel says:

    @Spatula:

    Sorry about your problem. I assumed he meant that Matt was still bitter about 08. But you and that chicken are pretty familiar by now I’m sure.

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    Gwangung says:

    @Spatula: not the best person to be taking that position.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @kay: Bingo. David Broder saw DDE when he looked in the mirror, and what Broder saw in the mirror is who. he thought should be running the country. Real Eisenhower Repubilcans, including the original I believe, opposed Kennedy’s tax cuts on grounds of fiscal irresponsibility.

    ANd that op-ed is pure Broder. grounded in the notion that bipartisanship (Dems rubberstamp REpublican ideas) somehow trumps science, economics, common sense, whatever.

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    Corner Stone says:

    It is hard for me to read Stoller and not wonder if his real problem with Barack Obama is this and not any policy

    If the dishwasher left spots on your plates you’d probably suspect racism as the first cause.

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    Johnny Coelacanth says:

    @Spatula: “I’m a liberal douche breath.”

    FTFY.

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    kay says:

    @dmsilev:

    Bush worked with Democrats in the Texas Statehouse and he was “good” on education and was a business-friendly governor, but “compassionate”, and his Dad was competent.

    Just roll the fucking 2000 media tape, and replace Bush with Romney, and Texas with Massachusetts.

    They fell for it AGAIN. How dumb are these people?

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    Raven says:

    @Raven: I just looked and mine is 66. I was born in 49.

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    JPL says:

    @Dennis G.: The endorsement did mention Mitt’s working across the aisle in MA but failed to say that meant vetoing 800 bills of which 700 were overridden.
    That’s not true bi-partisanship. What is a paper if it doesn’t know how to use google.

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    Democrat Partisan Asshole says:

    @Spatula: Shall I post your “I would have loved to have been raped by my coach” post, where you defend Sandusky? Personally, I never fail to get a kick out of that one.

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    Chyron HR says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Racism in modern America is a lie, and everyone on “ChimpOut.com” agrees!

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    Anoniminous says:

    Feeling pretty good about the Presidency and Senate. House is another matter but nothing I can do about it at the moment.

    SooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo ho, ho …

    A little Happy Happy music from Ralph Vaughan Williams:

    Ouverture from The Wasps.

    (Warning: painting of naked people at the link!)

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    Baud says:

    Virginia is smoking!

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    JPL says:

    @lamh35: Very interesting.

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    dmsilev says:

    @kay: Dumb, I think, is the wrong direction to go. Willfully ignorant is probably closer. They’re *choosing* to believe.

    They’ve got their blinders on, and are hence willing to be lead by the nose. And they’re very happy to be fed a cube of sugar now and again.

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    lamh35 says:

    Man Black voters sure are unenthusiastic for Obama ain’t we? If you want to mobilize my people try to take away the civil right we died and bled for (voting rights) and you piss us off.

    Keith Boykin @keithboykin
    New York Times: Black voters spent the night sleeping in tents and recreational vehicles near the elections office
    http://t.co/3nyD9W48

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Chyron HR: When someone falls down and somehow sticks their dick into the same rabbit hole it loses something in the report.

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    Anya says:

    @lamh35:

    Which candidate could forge the compromises in Congress to achieve these goals? When the question is framed in those terms, Mitt Romney emerges the stronger candidate.

    Will Romney call them “Democrat House” and “Democrat Senate” when he’s compromising with them?

    They’re assholes. I think they made a stink out of the whole “off the record” thing so that they can embarrass the president and then cry about transparency. I don’t think they expected the president to make it public.

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    Spatula says:

    @Democrat Partisan Asshole:

    Sure, if that turns you on, go right ahead. I stand by every word. (Does it excite you to read that over and over?)

    Though of course I never said I’d love to have been “raped,” but like most BJ kool kids you find it necessary to lie to support your twisted version of reality.

    Does it pleas(ur)e you to think about the Sandusky case? I missed the mention of that in Dennis G’s post.

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    Schlemizel says:

    @Spatula:

    You have a very odd way of displaying that kitchen tool. All you ever do is bad mouth Dems here on BJ. I’m an actual liberal and I push my party to the left every chance I get and in many different ways.

    Am I happy with the party or our President? Not really but I am smart enough to know that at this point in time this is as good as we can get.

    You on the other hand whine endlessly in ways that end up supporting the positions of carp like Rmoney. Its douche nozzles like you (are pretending I assume) that told us Gore ws no pure enough so we HAD to vote for Nader. Yean that taught the nation didn’t it?

    So, if you really are a liberal and not just a kitchen tool poseur pull your head out of your ass and look at what your kind did to this country. If you actually are just a GOP plant (much more likely) then you just keep fornicating that chicken, its the only thing you are good at as far as you have demonstrated here

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    Donut says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I might have agreed with you in prior years…but look what we have been through with this recession/near-depression, and look at the highly competent, long-term beneficial responses Obama has made, and it’s hard not to conclude that if our current president had less melanin in his skin, the race woud not even be close. Romney is an incompetent boob, a horrible liar, and has no natural skills as a politician. He should have been laughed out of the primaries, but made it through on cash and connections. Come on, let’s get real. We should be looking at a race analogous to FDR’s race in ’36, and instead we have the Stollers of the world insisting that pain, pain and more pain for the rubes and the poors is the only prescription for what ails us. It is madness. Seriously, it is true stupid madness, the kind that only a privileged white boy can spew. The people most negatively impacted by what Stoller wants are brown-skinned folks. That is indisputable.

    It’s a softer form of racism, I guess…but it’s still fucking racist as fuck, IMO.

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    Hal says:

    @lamh35:

    Which candidate could forge the compromises in Congress to achieve these goals? When the question is framed in those terms, Mitt Romney emerges the stronger candidate.

    In other words, President Obama’s inability to make the Grand Old Party love him and actually want to help America means we should get rid of Obama, not, oh say, the GOP members of the house and senate who would rather vote over and over to veto Obamacare than a jobs bill, or spend all there time trying to force women to have ultrasounds via metal wands.

    In what way, shape, or form is Romney willing to compromise? Teabaggers aren’t voting for compromise. Limblow isn’t voting for compromise. No major Republican in Congress is voting for compromise. This is such a complete and total bullshit endorsement.

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    JPL says:

    @Schlemizel: This could be the best smackdown ever…
    Thanks..

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    Anya says:

    @scav:

    New motto. When I think a kitchen utential’s opinion on anything would be interesting, I’ll go to very own junk drawer. Got a nice one there, good quality, mensa level in intelligence (comparatively speaking) and can manage the heat when I’m making sauces.

    I am taking your advise:-D

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    Spatula says:

    @Schlemizel:

    blah blah blah…idiot. I voted for Gore in Broward County Florida, no less, then watched him hand the WH to GWB without a fight to the death. Then I voted for John Kerry and watched him concede the election in a press release while he headed out of the country to vacation with his .1% wife.

    Fuck off.

    If you’re the type who can get behind those kinds of Democrats then bully for you.

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    scav says:

    Well, compromise and bipartisanship are defined in their dictionaries as everyone doing what the republicans want, no matter the circumstances, so it’s not like they’re asserting anything more profound than a=a (in wingnuttish logic) with their forging blather.

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    Spatula says:

    @Anya:

    I am taking your advise:-D

    Oh thank goodness. No more moronic replies from Anya.

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    Gracie says:

    @lamh35: It was busy at our voting place at 10am today, when my husband and I voted (east of Atlanta, in GA district 10). Many African Americans. But with no paper trail…

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    Johnny Coelacanth says:

    So then YOU are the type who can get behind those kinds of Democrats? I mean, you voted for them right? What are you getting at, Spankula?

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    Dennis G. says:

    @Spatula: You have a point. It could just be that Stoller is a complete idiot and he comes to his destructive dribble on the basis of his ego and ignorance alone. I do not deny that possibility.

    It was snark to link to the AP poll on the growing racist attitudes of a majority of white Americans. Most of these respondents call themselves Conservatives, but there are some who call themselves progressives. These “progressive” would hide their feelings behind word salads of policy more than the conservatives, but they did exist in in the poll. Is Stoller one of them? I really do not know, but it is pretty clear that he has a visceral hatred of President Obama that would make a Teabagger blush. Perhaps his anger is all based on policy. It is possible, but it is not unreasonable to think that some other factors are also influencing his opinions.

    Still, I’ll give you the point and accept that fact that it is possible that Matt Stoller is simply a self-absorbed asshole who is too busy thinking about his own “brilliance” to consider race in his thinking.

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    Spatula says:

    @Hal:

    Could you explain how commenting on a supposedly Progressive blog completely ruled by Obots and read by almost nobody does ANYTHING to promote Mittens?

    Thanks, I’ll wait.

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    Spatula says:

    @Johnny Coelacanth:

    Like I said earlier: You THINK you’re clever.

    No, moron. I learned my lesson and STOPPED voting for weakass Dems who are really Republicans Lite. Including PBO.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Anya: Spatulas are good for turning eggs and pancakes. Deciding what is true liberalism…not so much.

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    Johnny Coelacanth says:

    @Spatula: “read by almost nobody ”

    92,000 page views a day (more than twice as many as Eschaton), 116,000,000 views since 2005. Your grasp of this page’s traffic is as firm as your “liberal” credentials, Sputum.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Donut: Come on, let’s get real.
    In terms of the electorate as a whole, I absolutely think this election is race-based, I just don’t know about Stoller as an individual.

    I was thinking today about the electoral map, how VA is supposed to be a fatal weakness for Obama, when he was the first Dem to win it since IIRC LBJ. I don’t know if WVa or Arkansas would be gimmes for Hillary Clinton or some other pale Democrat, but they’d probably be more in play .

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    Spatula says:

    @Dennis G.:

    So you agree: Your racist accusation is unfounded in Stoller’s case.

    Look, LOTS of people are racist. But calling anyone who doesn’t support PBO a racist is bullshit.

    And where the hell do you get that he HATES PBO? Maybe he doesn’t want him re-elected, but that’s hardly the same thing.

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    Spatula says:

    @Johnny Coelacanth:

    Hey Dumbass:

    What percentage of the American electorate read Balloon Juice?

    Hell, there’s five Obots here who account for HALF of those page views anyway.

    And it’s really cute that you went and researched this, but ummm…you’re still really stupid.

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    Johnny Coelacanth says:

    “I learned my lesson and STOPPED voting for weakass Dems who are really Republicans Lite. Including PBO.”

    I am in awe of your learned purity, Speculum. Perhaps one day I can stop thinking I’m clever and learn to be a tedious douchenozzle who lectures strangers on the Internet.

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    Donut says:

    @Dennis G.:

    No, Dennis, sorry, I think you should stick to your guns. When a person states preferences for outcomes that will cause disproportionate pain and suffering to black folks and Latinos, I think it’s more than fair to call that person a racist. Again, he may be a softer type of racist, one who is not actively espousing white supremacy as a philosophy, but what he says he wants is gonna be kinda bad for non-whites. That’s kind of not up for debate. Whether he intends to be a racist or not, he wants something that would be racist in outcome.

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    Donut says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Sorry, didn’t mean to come off harsh – I think I explained what I mean better in my response to Dennis just above.

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    Spatula says:

    @Johnny Coelacanth:

    I am in awe of your learned purity, Speculum. Perhaps one day I can stop thinking I’m clever and learn to be a tedious douchenozzle who lectures strangers on the Internet.

    Shorter JC: I’ve got nothin’.

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    Liberty60 says:

    Making calls again to NV voters from barackobama.com

    Seriously, its the easiest thing- you can make calls right from your house with your own phone and convince swing state undecideds.

    Lets get this shit done.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Donut: no worries. Like I say, i don’t really have a handle on Stoller.

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    Davis X. Machina says:

    @Dennis G.: “Objectively pro-Saddam honky” is the phrase you’re fishing for…

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    efgoldman says:

    @Raven:

    I thought the SS topped out at 67?

    Those “advice” pamphlets show a higher payout/month for 70.
    Plus, as I said, i can’t go on medicare and leave ms efgoldman without insurance until she’s eligible.

    I just looked and mine is 66. I was born in 49.

    Aah. i was born in ’45. In the last “reform” they added a sliding scale.

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    Dennis G. says:

    @Spatula: I agree that Stoller is an asshole and that would apply to any and all who defend his dribble.

    It is also a fact that a decent number of white folks who call themselves progressives have racist attitudes. I suggested that that could be an alternative explanation for Stoller’s idiocy. It was snark and troll bait. I do not know the truth of Stoller’s attitudes about race and neither do do you.

    OTOH. you seem pretty sensitive to the entire question of race and any conversation of white privileged in America. I Guess you are a white male of a certain age who would find any deep examination of these issues very uncomfortable. And so you react with a bit of rage and defensiveness whenever it is mentioned. So it goes.

    Your projection onto me that anybody who does not support the President is an auto-racist is evidence of your queasiness when it comes to confronting questions of race and white male privileged in America. It seems to make you feel better, so I guess you should keep running with that fantasy.

    I would apologize for making you so uncomfortable, but I’ve decided I just don’t care what you think about anything.

    Cheers

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    Mary G says:

    Mailed in my ballot today. Here is another dirty trick.

    I live in one of the few (very slightly) undeveloped areas of Southern California. Town politics can be vicious on issues of real estate developers vs. environmentalists (and yes, NIMBYs as well). No one is officially a Democrat or a Republican, but it’s obvious who is who.

    One of the best city council members is named Bob Baker. He helped stop the city from selling a huge parcel of land RIGHT ON THE FRIGGIN’ PACIFIC OCEAN for $3 million dollars to build a shopping/restaurant complex. I believe there were also incentives to waive some taxes or fees as well.

    So Bob is up for re-election. The instant the filing period started, another “candidate” named Bob Baker came into city hall and filed the appropriate paperwork. No one knows who he was and his address was an attorney’s office. He’s never campaigned or anything. So now we have Bob Baker 0 and Bob Baker 1 on the ballot. They are hoping to confuse people and bleed off enough of his support to get him put out. I hope it doesn’t work. All the real Bob Baker’s signs have “Bob Baker #1 on them.

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    Johnny Coelacanth says:

    @Hal: Spalpeen wants to know how him wasting his time here, among his inferiors, promotes Romney because that’s not what he’s about, nuh uh, no sir.

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    Raven says:

    @Dennis G.: My brother you are way too civilized!

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    Anya says:

    @Yutsano: I always avoid his type. Anyone who supports only the extreme end of the spectrum of any position is not worth the time.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Raven: I was getting ready to type up something far longer, and then I saw that you made the point I was going for without wasting a syllable. Thanks.

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    clayton says:

    @Raven: And it seems you always give Corner Stone a pass.

    Why is that?

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    Spatula says:

    @Dennis G.:

    That you could write that much bullshit based on assumptions you just pull out of the air to support your own bullshit simply confirms…that you are a major bullshitter.

    Go knock on doors, idiot. I wonder how many people you piss off and annoy by doing so.

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    kay says:

    Howard Fineman is crowing on Twitter that Obama is going to lose because the DMRegister endorsed the bullshitter.

    In the Tweet, he takes a nasty little shot at Nate Silver.

    The ego on these media personalities is completely out of control.

    I sort of love that these million dollar pundits are lining up to bash Silver. Christ. God forbid anyone should dare contradict them.

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    Spatula says:

    @kay:

    The ego on these media personalities is completely out of control.

    Please.

    ABL, Dennis G, and DougJ would sell their own mothers to join the MSM. Starving, desperate egos in constant need of puffing are not confined to the MSM; some of them are front pagers on blogs.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @kay: Can he point to any time in history that a newspaper endorsement made a difference in an election?

    I advise mocking his hair.

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    Raven says:

    @clayton: A hall pass?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @kay: Jesus

    Howard Fineman ‏@howardfineman
    It’s not scientific or quantifiable by Nate Silver but Des Moines Register endorsement of Mitt first time it’s’ clear O may lose the race.
    1h Howard Fineman ‏@howardfineman
    So DMR endorsed Romney. Obama deserves what he gets in Iowa for this case of Political sloth.
    1h Howard Fineman ‏@howardfineman
    #Obama admitted in DM register off the record interview that he hadn’t talked to the edit board in 4 years!! Political malpractice.

    What the fuck? So suddenly newspaper endorsements count again? More than polling or field organization? The DMR is gonna sway voters in CO, OH, WI, VA and NH? This is just weird.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Dennis G.:

    It was snark and troll bait. I do not know the truth of Stoller’s attitudes about race and neither do do you.

    Naming him a racist was a joke for you. You don’t really have any idea or background to make that accusation, but it worked for you just fine until called on it.
    Good to know, thanks.

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    clayton says:

    @Raven: Don’t play ignorant. Simply look at what Corner Stone just posted.

    You give that one a pass every time.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I would tweet back, “So Willard’s the new sheriff in town?”

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    Liberty60 says:

    @beltane:

    We will certainly be told that Paul Ryan is the frontrunner for 2016 and that the Democrats have no one on their bench who can match his awesomeness.

    Well I say if Alan Grayson starts hitting the gym now, his abs and pecs can be in Ryan-esque shape in no time!

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    kay says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I think it’s crazy how vindictive and bitchy they’re being towards Nate Silver.

    For such hard-boiled political pros, they’re really very thin-skinned.

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    Raven says:

    @clayton: You mean the one at 10:10. Guess what Hercule Poirot, I didn’t see it. What the fuck are you anyway, the BJ nanny?

    Oh, not that one. I didn’t see that either. I’m watching two football games, the baseball game, scratching Lil Bit and jumping back and forth from thread to thread. CS, you are a douche bag!

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    clayton says:

    @Corner Stone:

    You don’t really have any idea or background to make that accusation

    Nice erroneous characterization there. How does it feel to be on the same side as that kitchen thing?

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    TheMightyTrowel says:

    @kay: They look at him and see their own mortality. Their industry is falling to pieces beneath their feet and people like Nate are forging careers from the ruins. Of course they’re bitchy and vindictive.

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    Raven says:

    @Corner Stone: Tell them, I call you a shit eatin dog fucker of the lowest denomination all the time, right?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Nah, that’s Reggie Hammond.

    @kay: The egos are huge, but very, very brittle.

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    Spatula says:

    @clayton:

    How does it feel to be on the same side as that kitchen thing?

    And that’s what it’s all about for twits like you: Who’s on whose SIDE? Who’s cheering for our team?

    Juvenile.

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    kay says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    He WILL talk to them, Jim, or he WILL be punished!

    Too bad they don’t apply this to Romney.

    We were talking today, and you cannot apply for job at a 7 Eleven with a ten year unexplained employment gap, yet media are promoting Romney w/ out ANY idea what he’s done since the Olympics.

    And “running for President” is a bullshit, incomplete answer.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @kay: Forget it, Kay, it’s Chinatown.

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    aimai says:

    @Spatula:

    What the fucking what? Do you think that Kerry had an option other than taking a short break, as a Senator, after losing the election? Did you really think he was going to go for armed revolution? And if you thought that–why didn’t you? I mean fuck, man, there are plenty of redneck militias out there you could have joined and even a few left wing ones if you cared enough to send the very best.

    aimai

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    Pinkamena Panic says:

    @kay: I live in Ft. Wayne… but I can’t make it over to Ohio without help. Does that ruin my chances of helping?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Pinkamena Panic: If others are going, you might be able to catch a ride.

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    Herbal Infusion Bagger says:

    @TheMightyTrowel:

    @kay: They look at him and see their own mortality. Their industry is falling to pieces beneath their feet and people like Nate are forging careers from the ruins. Of course they’re bitchy and vindictive.

    Word. Fineman can’t do what Silver does. Fineman’s a bolivar or, whereas Silver really adds value to the stream of polls.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    I HAD THAT PUZZLE! O.M.G.!

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    Maude says:

    Howard Fineman said that in the run up to the Iraq war, they, the media, gave Bush the benefit of the doubt. That says it all.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @beltane: This is why I come to BJ. Oh, delicious snark with a kernel of bitter truth. When the punditubbies start saying this, I will think of you, beltane, and smile.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I didn’t read Stoller’s snivel, but the post at LGM does say he goes to the old Eschatron trope of Obama being secretly anti-choice (Sotomayor and Kagan, too, of course)

    WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Johnny Coelacanth: in non partisan races where I was unfamiliar with the candidates, I chose the name that sounded least like it would belong to a white male

    Wow, that is so funny; in my callow youth in Eastern Mass. I started voting for the non-Irish names in NP races I wasn’t familiar with to counter the idjits who mindlessly voted for the Irish name.

    When I saw a married pol using their spouse’s name (with shamrock, I believe) I knew that shit was getting ridiculous.

    note: I am Irish, but not a tribalistic asshole, I hope

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Spatula: ABL, Dennis G, and DougJ would sell their own mothers to join the MSM. Starving, desperate egos in constant need of puffing are not confined to the MSM; some of them are front pagers on blogs.

    You really are an idjit. ABL could make huge bank “converting” to conservatism and going on wingnut welfare, maybe a FNC “commenting” gig.

    Since she hasn’t done this, I’m going to assume that selling her own mother is emphatically not on the table.

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    Joel says:

    I like Den G, but I’m with Corner Stone here. Never account to malice when incompetence suffices as an explanation…

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    […] Juice hints, baldly, that Stoller must hate Obama because of racism. That’s some petty lashing-out, guys. Come on. Meanwhile Scott Lemieux at LGM picks nits over […]

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    ruemara says:

    You know, I have to say this. Would you fucking dumb people trust black people for fucking once that someone can be very smart, not a klansman, but has a racist viewpoint? Stoller can be very much a progressive purist, a PUMA, a Naderite, yaddayadda, and still harbor a view that frankly, the black guy is always the greater evil, unless he is his sort of black guy, the one that thinks exactly how Stoller wants him to think. I’ve noticed this about diversity. Some people mean diverse. Some people mean “exactly like me, but with different shadings”. Sucks, but it’s true. I don’t care about Stoller. I don’t care about or for most of the precious pundits of liberal media or blogs. They’ve all been off about something. But an awful lot of them gained an obtuseness during the 07 campaigns that never, ever went away. I know the voices of certain posters will chime in with their derision, because no one truly knows about racism and bigotry like white males, history’s most oppressed people and I promise I will give your reasons the consideration they are due. Just as you’ve give ours.

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    Lojasmo says:

    @Corner Stone:

    It’s too bad links don’t work in quotes. You see, if you had actually read the link, you might undersatand how fucking dumb you look.

    Scratch that. It would require a modicum of self-awareness.

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    Lojasmo says:

    @Spatula:

    What did you do in 2008?

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    Lojasmo says:

    Oh…By the bye, this white dude, fully aware that he might hold some racist views (hard to deny as a person of white male privilege, and largely sheltered from diversity by location) will be voting a second time for Barak Obama because he’s the BEST FUCKING GUY FOR THE JOB regardless of his skin color.

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    Ben says:

    Seriously, simply calling people racist if they oppose Obama is the quickest way to destroy your own credibility.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Lojasmo: Do you even bother anymore, or is it just reflexive anger anytime you see my name?
    Because your admonishment is just fucking stupid. Now go fuck yourself.

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    Jay Q. Green says:

    @Johnny Coelacanth: Malkin is a woman of color, and according to anti-racists, only white people can be racist, so don’t call her racist, you racist.

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    Spatula says:

    @ruemara:

    ” I know the voices of certain posters will chime in with their derision, because no one truly knows about racism and bigotry like white males, history’s most oppressed people and I promise I will give your reasons the consideration they are due. Just as you’ve give ours.”

    Hey Reumatoid: I grew up a gay white male in southern fucking Kansas. Let’s talk oppression and bigotry and what that does to a person when they face it from a wee age. Let’s talk about the mind fuck of being taught on a daily basis that you are, in your soul, an abomination against god him or herself. Let’s discuss, while we’re at it, living and growing up with the knowledge that your parents, siblings, and everyone who knows you, would hate and reject you if they knew who you really are; and what that does to a psyche over time.

    Want to compare victimtude? Want to discuss your never ending implications that all white men are the same, knowing only privilege and glory?

    Bring it.

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    Spatula says:

    @Lojasmo:

    What did you do in 2008?

    I did what anyone who observes and learns has done: I chose to not participate in the fraud that our national elections are. I voted in my local and state races and left Obama’s space blank.

    Any my suspicions have almost all been confirmed. He’s not who he claimed to be.

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    gwangung says:

    @Spatula: Dude, don’t try playing oppression olympics. You’re out of practice and it shows.

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    gwangung says:

    I’ve noticed this about diversity. Some people mean diverse. Some people mean “exactly like me, but with different shadings”.

    Pretty much that.

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    Lojasmo says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Whatever you say, champ.

    ETA: You’ve spewed all kinds of other insipid crap on these here pages, and I’ve managed to ignore a bunch of it.

    Don’t let facts interfere with your lede, though.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Lojasmo: Yeah. It is. Because you got nothing. You tried it on and called on it and now you’re backing off your weak ass shit. Go fuck yourself.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Lojasmo: Your ETA makes no sense. I actually read the articles and op-eds involved and you clearly have not.
    You just want to spew some venom at me.
    Fat, dumb and full of hate is no way to go through life son.

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    bq says:

    you are a racist/imperialist/reprehensible human being if you defend the bombings of civilians overseas that are the results of both bush and obama administrations.

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    Ellyn says:

    Phone banked for Obama today. Called Colorado. 8 out 10 humans either planned to vote for Obama or already had voted for Obama. And I could tell people at other computer stations were having good results, too, because the bells kept ringing (Everytime you get a “yes” you ring a bell) Last week it was Nevada which wasn’t nearly as good. Someone brought in huge cauldrons of homemade chili with cornbread and a delicious pasta salad. That was the best chili I ever tasted.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Just wondering Dennis. You going to leave your “joke” about Stoller being a racist intact?

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    Corner Stone says:

    I hope I’m around for the next race based post you make here. You have zero credibility to make those arguments at this point.

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    Kris says:

    It is not enough to apologize for the uncalled-for and snarky accusation that Matt Stoller’s reasons for not wanting to vote for Obama must stem from racism – you must remove this portion of your entry entirely before anyone can truly believe you are sincere in your “apology”. There are plenty of people out here who believe that Obama’s actions in eviscerating the Bill of Rights, indefinite detention, assassination, the cowardly use of drones, massive funneling of wealth to the rich, and protection of Wall Street crimes are all things that make it a moral impossibility to vote for him. Our political system has passed the point where we can still influence it from inside at any level. Therefore votes for a party that repudiates these actions is both meaningful and the start of any chance to bring our country back to anything close to a saner and less unequal, less dangerous world.

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @Kris:

    It is not enough to apologize for the uncalled-for and snarky accusation that Matt Stoller’s reasons for not wanting to vote for Obama must stem from racism – you must remove this portion of your entry entirely before anyone can truly believe you are sincere in your “apology”.

    Apologize? Apologize?
    THIS! IS! BALLOON-JUICE!
    All we need is a bottomless pit…

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    Maude says:

    @Kris:
    Yer on the wrong blog. Go to the end of the internet and make a left.

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    Really?!? says:

    Retract that bs claim of Stoller being a racist. Are you people so desperate that you smear a man with an honest argument against your candidate? Not one person has taken a word Stoller has said and refuted one point. Not one of you can take apart his argument intellectually so you smear his name like children on a school yard. One more vote for Jill Stein right here because people like you make me sick. And I am in a swing state. Shove that up you phone bank!

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @Really?!?: Welcome to the internet. You must be new here.

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    Bob Richardson says:

    Thank you for trashing Matt Stoller as a racist for no reason whatsoever and in doing so trivializing REAL racism. Now, it’s just becoming noise, an epithet with dickall meaning, and actually kinda laughable.

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    Bob Richardson says:

    @Kris:

    Your mentioning drones clearly exposes your true agenda, that of a virulent bleeding-heart racist who hates African-American neocons.

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    Bob Richardson says:

    @bq:

    Can’t speak for the author, but Balloon Juice’s John Cole went from an in-the-tank war hawk when Bush was invading Iraq, then “woke up” and “changed sides” by getting the tingle up his thigh and worshiping Obama’s drone campaigns, unconstitutional invasions and assassinations. The contortions make a lot of sense if you’re a bi-partisan Neocon who defends war crimes and smears opponents as “anti-semites” and “racists.” The irony is that as much as Cole denigrates Andrew Sullivan with alarming regularity, it’s mostly professional jealousy, because when it comes to ideology and devotion to Dear Leader there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between them, in the same respect that there’s barely a dime’s worth of difference between Obama and Romney.

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    Bob Richardson says:

    John Cole’s Bush-Cheney love affair mea culpa:

    I really don’t know why. I believed it. I identified with it. It was part of who I was for years. It was my deference to authoritarianism after years in the military. It was tribalism.”

    The more things change – the more they stay exactly the same:

    1) Cluelessness;

    2) Deference to authoritarianism;

    3) Tribalism.

    Same as it always was.

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    J-Ho says:

    So let me see if I get this straight, you have serious reservations about the escalation of a war directed entirely at Muslim peoples. You oppose the expansion of enforcement of the War on Drugs, which disproportionately affects African-Americans over any other group. You use the excellent writings of the bloggers at the Black Agenda Report as a source in your critique. And it’s YOU who are the racist? Not the people who explicitly support these policies by voting for this president?

    People like you, who continue to blame Nader for Gore’s defeat in Florida when 54% of African-American voters’ ballots were rejected, in effect completely ignoring that injustice, then turn around and accuse 3rd party voters of racism have some serious fucking balls.

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    Justine Sharp says:

    Don’t forget to congratulate yourselves for helping fuck us all over with your blind, fascist loyalty to a leader who doesn’t give a shit about you. Keep on keeping the empire alive, motherfuckers!

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    bap says:

    Neoliberalism shall overcome.

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    Doug Tarnopol says:

    So, how long are you going to keep the racist smear up, now that attention has been drawn to it by Glenn Greenwald, and rightly?

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    Rob in Buffalo says:

    Doug Tarnopol – Good question. Anyone can make a mistake, but own it for Grid’s sake.

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    Wasaloyal reader says:

    @redshirt:
    And after reading Glenn Greenwald’s post about the Stoller sliming, and finding that he was correct, I won’t be clicking on my Ballon Juice bookmark anymore. Dennis – you are an asshole. That is all.

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    Gary Valan says:

    The “PS” comment is unwarranted. Refuting Matt Stoller’s article point by point is one thing but attacking the person goes beyond the pale. These types of comments are what I would expect from tea party types. BTW I already voted for Obama only because of his initiative w/Obamacare but if I had read Matt Stoller’s Salon post before I did I would have searched long and hard for progressive blogs to come up with a reasoned and thoughtful repudiation or a counter argument. But I would not have found it here. Bad show guys.

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