It really is this simple

If you don’t want your wife, daughter, sister, or niece to have to take a baby to a prison for visitation with her rapist, or to make that trip yourself, vote Democratic.

Open thread.

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54 replies
  1. 1
    Patricia Kayden says:


    But perhaps it’s not that funny given that The Bot could win.

  2. 2
    Robin G. says:

    Is anyone else starting to worry about this East Coast storm? They’re saying power could be out through election day. I don’t want to think of what that would mean for our chances in Virginia.

  3. 3
    Yutsano says:

    I don’t have kids, but there is no way in Hades I could ever vote for Willard.

  4. 4
    Cassidy says:

    You guys leave us not entertained for 6 hourse and then ask for money! Well, I never…

  5. 5
    BGinCHI says:

    @Robin G.: Unlimited Corporate GOD!

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    Cassidy says:

    I am sore as hell. Did a two a day yesterday involving a rowing machine, bodyweight exercises, TRX and medicine balls. I’d so rather be home and partially drunk right now.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Cassidy: Partially? Slacker. :)

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    scav says:

    The real Republican rape platform did I manage to link correctly? Good list od grump/ rage provoking quotes if I did.

    ETA Huzzah! I’m adding paddish to tho who (WHOLE!) polyglot thing!

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    dmsilev says:

    Blunt, but very accurate.

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    Violet says:

    I will never vote for a Republican again. They’re racist, misogynist, war-mongering irresponsible-with-money incompetents. They deserve to be condemned to the dustbin of history.

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    Cassidy says:

    @Yutsano: I’m thinking partially enough to not feel the pain in my muscles, but still coherent enough to play Halo: Reach to my usual standard of getting bludgeoned repeatedly by an 8 y/o.

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    NotMax says:

    Anyone seen (or have a link to) anything about how badly Joe the Plumber is gonna get his butt kicked on Nov. 6?

    Just idle curiosity.

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @Yutsano: You have nieces, sisters, or coworkers? Not that you really need a reason, but keep those people in your heart.
    And yes, the rights that have finally been acknowledged for you can be taken away by the same people.

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    Betsy says:

    If you don’t want your wife, daughter, sister, or niece to have to take a baby to a prison for visitation with her rapist, vote Democratic.

    Or, your self. (Not everyone reading is male.)

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    Robin G. says:

    By the way, Soonergrunt, that is an absolutely ridiculous scenario you suggested. Shame on you for engaging in such shameless, hyperbolic fear-mongering.

    The rapist would never go to prison.

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    shortstop says:

    @Betsy: Thanks.

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    Napoleon says:


    I don’t but it has been hilarious what a joke of a campaign he has run. I am lucky enough to live in one of the media markets which covers his district.

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    Comrade Mary says:


    You guys leave us not entertained for 6 hourse and then ask for money!

    I am trying to figure out how long “6 hourse” is, but we have so few horses around these days that my calculations are futile.

    And speaking of horsey dances: Chinese dissident Ai Weiwei has done his own version of Gangnam Style, in handcuffs, with PSY completely edited out of the original video excerpts he uses. Nice!

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    Chris says:



    Unfortunately, I don’t see their party changing any time soon, and while we might be able to consign it to minority status in the long run, it’ll still be around monkey wrenching everything it can for the foreseeable future.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Cassidy: My goal is to get through today and tomorrow without killing something or someone. Then hoping beyond hope I didn’t overspend this pay cycle over the weekend and I don’t have to do something drastic like borrow from my TSP. Which is not a bad option, but I might need that money to move later. I really really need overtime shifts to come back.

    Off to my professional torture appointment.

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @Betsy: true enough. Fixed.

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    scav says:

    @Betsy: Basically, if you are or have ever known a femalish type being (or even consider them potentially non mythical intelligent entities). . .

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    NotMax says:


    Thank you. Good to know.

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    AliceBlue says:

    I don’t have any children, but I have nieces (who are, sadly, voting Republican). It’s going to be up to me and others to protect the rights they’re so willing to throw away.

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    Cassidy says:

    @Yutsano: I’ve spent the past week dealing with a massive excel spreadsheet that I was finally able to format so that dates cells turn color at the appropriate expiration dates, etc. I’ve been considering drinking around 8 AM.

    @Comrade Mary: Something snarky and sarcastic…which does sound better than my own sleep deprived brain can come up with.

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    aimai says:

    This is absolutely true–that is: your rapist has more rights over your body and your life for 18 years if you were to keep the pregnancy than you do. Not only would you have to bring your child for prison visits but you would not be allowed to move out of state, or choose the school your child went to, or make medical decisions for your child without his permission. If your rapist were also your husband being forbidden to have an abortion would, in effect, nullify your attempts to leave/divorce by putting you in the position of perhaps having to leave the child behind with him, or pay child support to him for caring for the child you didn’t want to have in the first place.


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    Comrade Mary says:

    @Cassidy: Heh! I am the empress of typos anyway and don’t you forget it. (Got 3 hours sleep Monday night and 2 hours Tuesday. Yesterday was a loooong day. Thank god I’m back to semi-unemployment / freelancing and could sleep in a bit this morning.)

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    Seanly says:

    @Robin G.:

    That’s what I was thinking… :(

    We’ve given a lot to Obama and to Idaho 2nd’s LGBT congressional candidate. We’re kinda tapped out. I’m hoping the money we’ve donated does some good.

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    Cassidy says:

    @Comrade Mary: I tell myself my typos are part of my personality, but the reality is i’m just too damned lazy to learn to type better.

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @Robin G.: You know, there’s the line of thinking that if she got pregnant, it wasn’t really rape, and therefore shouldn’t be criminalized.

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    Raven says:

    I gave at the office. Of course, I work from home!

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    Canadian Shield says:

    I just sent off $25 to ActBlue and I’m a Canadian!
    That should shame any of you Red blooded Americans that haven’t yet (of those who can afford it of course).

    I may have to post a link to an NDP donation site before the next Canadian Federal Election so y’all can return the favor :-)

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    sherparick says:

    On a related subject, Atrios links to this story in today’s N.Y. Times which should warm the hearts of Robert Samuelson, Paul Ryan, Pete Petersen, David Brooks, and all the VSPs who want to see Obamacare repealed, Medicaid Block Granted, and Medicare voucherized. I would note that for these people all the premature deaths of working class people is probably considered a “feature” not a “bug” in their 1% world view.

    Atrios: Trying To Destroy The World

    The rich screw it all up, the poor are made to suffer, and generally our elite press cheer it on.

    “Life in Greece has been turned on its head since the debt crisis took hold. But in few areas has the change been more striking than in health care. Until recently, Greece had a typical European health system, with employers and individuals contributing to a fund that with government assistance financed universal care. People who lost their jobs received health care and unemployment benefits for a year, but were still treated by hospitals if they could not afford to pay even after the benefits expired.

    Things changed in July 2011, when Greece signed a supplemental loan agreement with international lenders to ward off financial collapse. Now, as stipulated in the deal, Greeks must pay all costs out of pocket after their benefits expire…

    None of this has anything to do with helping Greece, it’s only about helping the people who lent money to Greece. And in the end it won’t even help them. Needless suffering because austerity.

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    Comrade Mary says:

    @Canadian Shield: Expect your money to be returned. We foreigners can’t donate. Better yet, go and cancel that payment yourself and save some poor volunteer the damn time to review and reject you.

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    @Canadian Shield:
    Thanks for confirming ActBlue (like the Obama Donation Website) has virtually no protections to prohibit the acceptance of donations from non-US citizens.

    Who remembers Obama blaming Citizen’s United for allowing non-US citizens to undermine US elections.

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    elmo says:

    @Robin G.:

    I think the areas projected to be hardest hit are places like Norfolk, which is heavily red anyway. Northern VA, where Obama is strongest (and where I live), isn’t supposed to be hard hit at all.

    I think.

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    YellowJournalism says:

    @Comrade Mary: Seconded on that recommendation! I’m pretty sure the reverse (Americans donating to Canadian elections) is also illegal.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Soonergrunt: I’ve talked about her before, but I do have a strikingly beautiful cousin. Not to mention an awesome SIL. If anything happened to them the males in my family would get violent. He wouldn’t make it to prison. I vote as much for them as myself.

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @Canadian Shield: Thanks for the thought, but I’m pretty sure that they can’t accept donations from non US Nationals.
    If that’s the case, then by all means, please donate a like sum to the NDP in our name,

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    @Comrade Mary:

    Expect your money to be returned


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    Canadian Shield says:

    Born in Burbank California, family moved back to Canada when I was 2.
    I consider myself 100% Canadian but am dual-citizen.

    Go Blue!

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @WWStBreitbartD: @WWStBreitbartD: Really, these desperate ploys for relevance are cute!

    @Canadian Shield: If you hold US Citizenship, then pony up! And don’t forget to vote!

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    Anoniminous says:

    This is what is happening under href=””Austerity:

    As the head of Greece’s largest oncology department, Dr Kostas Syrigos thought he had seen everything. But nothing prepared him for Elena, an unemployed woman whose breast cancer had been diagnosed a year before she came to him.
    By that time, her cancer had grown to the size of an orange and broken through the skin, leaving a wound that she was draining with paper napkins.

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    WaterGirl says:

    Just curious.

    Does Obama get the money as it comes in? Does it happen weekly or monthly? Or do you manually “release” the money to the candidate whenever you want?

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    One would hope, at least, that a judge deciding issues like child custody and visitation rights would take into account that the father was a rapist. Though I guess that makes the assumption that the mother was actually able to prove it and get a conviction, which is far from guaranteed.

    @Robin G.:
    The optomist in me says that chaos on election day is likely to help Obama, provided that it’s genuine chaos from something like a major storm rather than politically motivated chaos that strikes predominantly Democratic districts. There are two reasons to think this:

    1) Getting people to the polls to vote in the face of a disruption is likely to favor the side with a better ground game. Clear advantage Obama.

    2) The Obama campaign has been working hard to get supporters to vote early. This has shown up clearly in polls; people who report they’ve already voted have gone very strongly for Obama. Election day difficulties aren’t going to interfere with those banked votes. Again, advantage Obama.

    I won’t say there’s nothing to worry about, since I wouldn’t put it past the Republicans to try to use a storm as an excuse for shenanigans of some kind, i.e. turn the genuine chaos into politically motivated chaos that hurts Democratic leaning areas.

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    Maude says:

    @Canadian Shield:
    That’s nice. When Canada pulls something foul, You are US. When Us pulls something fouls, you are Canadian.
    Edit, learning to spell. failed.

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    It’s not as if you don’t have other reasons for wanting to keep the Republicans away from the levers of power. I don’t see you as the Log Cabin Republican type. Or the Almost To Narnia Republican type, either.

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    Robin G. says:

    @elmo: IIRC, Norfolk and VA Beach were pretty seriously purple last time, and helped take VA for Obama. (Enormous minority population in that corridor.) But overall lower turnout would probably cancel each other out, I guess.

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    Robin G. says:

    @Roger Moore: Good points. I’m worried about the Gov being significantly less interested in cleaning up Those Areas, but solid GOTV will help.

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    shortstop says:

    @WaterGirl: At this point in the race, the campaign makes spending decisions based on long-term projections, cash on hand and new cash coming in. It will make ad buys, fund field offices, put money on GOTV efforts, etc. based on what’s been budgeted so far, but it can immediately step up those amounts depending on what’s being donated day by day now. Many of the bills don’t actually get paid until later.

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    Jay in Oregon says:

    I had to unfriend one of my wife’s cousins on Facebook because she was posting the most hateful shit about Obama during the debates; the capper was defending Trump’s self-aggrandizing publicity stunt as “asking questions we deserve to know the answers to.”

    I’ve only met her in person two or three times, and she seemed like a perfectly decent person; of course, we never discussed politics. And I know she considers herself a good Christian girl, too…

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    rikyrah says:

    You give great reasons to donate.

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    rikyrah says:

    You give great reasons to donate.

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    Catsy says:

    If you don’t want your wife, daughter, sister, or niece to have to take a baby to a prison for visitation with her rapist, or to make that trip yourself have a shred of humanity or conscience lurking anywhere within you, vote Democratic.

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