Best debate performance I have ever seen from Obama. Love him calling Romney a liar.
Also, and I hate Candy C., but she was spectacular. This was the best debate I have watched in 20 years.
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Best debate performance I have ever seen from Obama. Love him calling Romney a liar.
Also, and I hate Candy C., but she was spectacular. This was the best debate I have watched in 20 years.
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MoeLarryAndJesus
That debate was an act of terror on Willard’s ass.
Dream On
Just got off work – does anyone know if it’s been uploaded anywhere yet?
Maude
Binder women unite
Fuck ALL the chickens! (né Studly Pantload, t.e.u.u.)
David Axelrod just confirmed for Lawrence O’Donnell that Obama wasn’t saving the 47% bomb until the end, that it came about “organically” (i.e., Mittens opened that door wi-i-i-i-i-i-de open all on his own).
Also, too: MAGNETS, BITCHES!!
/BreakingBadReference
Hill Dweller
I didn’t watch it, but after cruising around the interwebs, it seems Obama is the consensus winner. Good.
bootsy
I love the internet: http://bindersfullofwomen.tumblr.com/
Robin G.
For me, the key moment was when Obama laid into Romney for accusing his administration of politicizing Lybia. It was an Alpha Male moment in every sense of the word. Even I shrank back in my seat. That was the Commander In Chief, and I don’t think anyone that saw is ever going to forget it.
WaterGirl
I hate Candy Crowley, but I was pleasantly surprised by her performance tonight.
Note to Romney: do not piss off the debate moderator.
Violet
Thing of fucking beauty.
Lojasmo
Blog seems broke, but fuck yeah!
PsiFighter37
I think Obama shat all Romney. A dirty, runny, slightly off-brown shit.
Disgusting on all counts.
Lojasmo
Blog seems broke, but fuck yeah!
Kingfish
Whew when the pres called him on the embassy lie, and Crowley backed the pres and the crowd cheered … Was that a dream I had or did that really happen?
The Other Chuck
Benghazi: I thought Mitt would have something to beat the president with. Instead, it became his biggest meltdown as the moderator fact-checked him IN REAL TIME. Candi Crowley of all people.
Wow.
I need a cigarette.
Pooh
@Robin G.:
he literally wagged his finger at Mitt. I needed a smoke after that.
Davis X. Machina
Drum, at MoJo:
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
It was impressive to say the least. Flop sweat is not a becoming look on a robot.
gogol's wife
I could only watch about 5 minutes as usual, but I enjoyed the live chat until my computer started to sound as if it was going to blow up. I’m glad it sounds as if Obama did well. He looked more energized in the part I saw.
Cris (without an H)
I can’t believe this election is even close.
Anya
Romney was moped by his family. All of them had a grim look. Now who’s misbehaving boy who got spanked, Tag ROmney?
RedKitten
That was beautiful. And yes, when Obama got pissed off about the Libya thing, I was thoroughly impressed.
S. Holland
Amen John amen!!! Was so nervous, worried, but, hug the adorable animals…..Obama did fantastic!
He’s always had my vote….what can I say I love the guy….but tonite..wow!
var
Once Romney got live fact checked he was fucked.
Spaghetti Lee
It was good. Not like I didn’t know this, but Romney came off as such an asshole. Interrupting everyone, smirking, all that shit. Maybe some people like that. Beats the hell out of me as to why.
some guy
Single Moms with AK-47s, Public Enemy #1
The Other Chuck
Anyone up for a #BindersFullOfWomen hashtag?
Karelian
I’m just gonna hang out at WP.com tomorrow and watch Jenny Rubin squirm.
YoohooCthulhu
Hit it out of the park when it counts. Waiting for the inevitable Obama-Giants/Posey comparison.
eric
why cant obama get this website to work…
Lojasmo
@PsiFighter37:
drunk again, eh?
Violet
@Maude:
“Binder women unite”
HA! I’m in!
Also, birds better watch out if Romney wins. He’s got it in for birds.
Helen
@Maude: That for me was the most stunning part of the debate. And a lost opportunity (yeah I know – Monday morning quarterbacking). But the response should have been: “Really Governor? You did that? Fabulous. So, you’re for affirmative action?”
dmsilev
@Robin G.: That was a pretty powerful moment. You could see that Obama was well and truly pissed at Romney for his shenanigans over the Libya thing and that it took real self control for Obama not to throttle Mitt with his own necktie.
arguingwithsignposts
@Fuck ALL the chickens! (né Studly Pantload, t.e.u.u.):
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
JK
Great debate. Interested to see what the undecideds think. I think Repubs are wrong to hang their hat on Libya. It always about the economy. Obama has been strong on International. Strong on defense. Not going to win there.
T. Bombadil
Charlie Rose is live with an “all star” cast of villager insight.
Davis X. Machina
Paul Begala on Twitter: “I believe we’re all children of God. And some of those children need to be laid off, have their pensions raided & health care canceled.”
Bill E Pilgrim
“No no no”, Mitt scolded, “dogs go on the roof, women go in the binders.”
Bruce S
Fuck Obama’s stellar performance.
Willard was turned into Candy-fuckingCNN-Crowley’s b*tch tonight. Willard got called a liar by TWO people on network TeeVee during the debate.
Who knew such things were possible?
Rush Limbaugh is going to have to crack his Viagra stash to drag his fat ass on the radio tomorrow…
GregB
No acts of terror…..
Romney shit himself.
Fucking A.
Just saw the clip of the Rose Garden.
No acts of terror.
Romney politicizes American deaths.
Well done Mr. President.
Violet
Binders Full of Women: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/NATL-Debate-Sparks-Bindersfullofwomen-Trend-174503821.html
MikeJ
@bootsy: That was fast.
I for one am happy to see a Republican embrace affirmative action. Still won’t vote for him though.
different-church-lady
Want proof Obama killed it? Erickson called it a draw on the tweet machine.
rikyrah
I love that POTUS went after Willard as an Alpha Male
dmsilev
@some guy:
But what if we put them in binders? Would that be OK? Also, are 3-ring binders good enough, or do they need to go into one of those binding machine thingies?
weaselone
Clear win for Obama.
1. I think Biden’s debate helped set this one up for Obama. Biden’s stridency gave the President some room to be more aggressive.
2. We get to see going forward which theory regarding the bounce for Romney following the first debate was correct. If we see a significant rebound towards Obama it lends credibility to the idea the shift was a result of Romney’s superior debate performance in the initial debate. If we see little movement, it favors the idea that the bounce towards Romney was the result of people looking for any excuse to support him and had little to do with the President’s actual level of performance.
jwb
@Maude: Already a meme on FB and a tumblr.
Nowhere Girl
great night – obummer deserves a cig tonight . . .
PeakVT
@bootsy: The Sean Bean one is the best.
slightly_peeved
Currently on CNN Live poll:
Poll: This is it: Who won?
Obama by a lot (47%)
Romney by a lot (19%)
Obama by a little (15%)
Romney by a little (18%)
47%. How does karma taste, Romney?
Mystical Chick
It was glorious! I feel like I got my pony! :)
MittBot can’t help but be a petulant little shit and whine “but I get to say the last word” – it so doesn’t play well.
Why anyone would choose him over PBO is beyond me.
max
Ya know, nobody is quite 100% sure what the fuck happened in Libya, except it’s not Al Qaeda. And ya know, it ain’t Iraq either.
Mitt appears to have finally been caught out on his molehill there. Goodie.
Typical: I feel asleep before the debate and woke up in time to read the liveblogs. Sully seems to be having a pack dog response to the big black alpha dog, so that’s good I guess.
max
[‘Gah.’]
SteveinSC
Probably the Benghazi fail really pulled the planks out of Romney’s boat. “Looks like meat’s back on the menu, boys.”
Spaghetti Lee
Binders Full of Women
“Um, things Buffalo Bill has in his basement!” BZT!
Anya
Sully is in love again.
trollhattan
ZOMG, Tweety is talking to Sully, who’s verklempt over O-man’s performance.
Peace in the valley.
Original Lee
I think Romney started melting down when he tried to bully the moderator and failed, and then got fact-checked by Obama. And why on earth was he bringing up the President’s pension and the 47%?
Aside from my partisan bias, though, Romney looked haggard and confused by the end. He looked as if he doesn’t have the stamina for this kind of thing, which is actually worse than McCain, who looked as if he could have kept going for a while after his town hall debate with Obama was over.
BTW, the chipper first debate Romney might have had a visit to an oxygen chamber prior to the first debate. Heard that from an acquaintance who lives in Denver – he says a lot of businessmen from lower altitudes use oxygen supplements if they don’t have enough time to acclimate before an important meeting. Don’t know how true it is.
West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.)
@Lojasmo: Brutal, dude… but funny.
peorgietirebiter
@bootsy:
Nobody puts Baby in a binder. Patrick Swayze
Too funny. Thanks for the link.
mai naem
I cannot believe Candy Crowley did such a good job. I was totally expecting a republican tool. She’s is going to get eviscerated by the Repubs. Also, I think Schieffer’s going to be more of a Republican tool than I had hoped for.
Not Sure
It’s official. Chuck Todd called it for Obama.
andrewsomething
That final response by Obama had me clapping out loud!
My friends are so sick of hearing my spiel about how my grandfathers, both children of immigrants, befitted by “government hand outs.” Things like the GI Bill and FHA loans built the middle class as we know it.
This wasn’t controversial at all until these kinds of programs became accessible to brown folk.
Mike in NC
@trollhattan: Sully is bipolar, I think.
Maude
If the next post was taken down, I get FUBAR when I click on next post
J R in WV
I have to agree that the fact check on the Libyan consulate in the middle of the debate was amazing. Obama by a KO. Thank FSM for noodles!
Not the only victorious moment for President Obama, but maybe the best. Very Presidential!
Spaghetti Lee
@trollhattan:
WHOOOOOOOOO CAAAAAAAAAAARES
Uncle Cosmo
@Spaghetti Lee:
Playing to his base of smirking assholes who dream of interrupting uppity niCLANG!s & bitchez…
FormerSwingVoter
…Is John Kerry drunk?
priscianusjr
I hate Candy C., but she was spectacular.
The great thing about watching practically no television for the last 16 years is that I don’t even know who Candy Crowley is. I thought she was spectacular too.
Redleg
Crowley did okay but she gave Romney the first and last word on the question of taxation. Romney sounded like a crybaby bastard most of the time, especially when he knew this was the real Obama he was facing.
Fuck Sununu for calling Obama lazy and not very smart. Romney looked like a douche tonight! Obama looked cool and in command!
The Other Chuck
Oh man, #BindersFullOfWomen already has a gazillion tweets, it’s several pages of google hits, it’s a tumblr, and it’s even a fraggin news article for NBC.
The meme market is dominated by high frequency trading now. You react in one second and you’re already yesterday’s news.
NonyNony
@weaselone:
A significant rebound towards Obama could also mean that Romney voters are embarrassed and hiding again, like they were before the first poll.
Honestly I’ve come to the conclusion that “undecided voter” means undecided about whether or not you’re going to vote. Except in a handful of exceptional cases nobody shifts from Republican to Dem or back again. They shift from “I’m excited about voting for this guy” to “oh God I can’t vote for this assclown – where’s my ‘Don’t Blame Me I Voted For Ron Paul’ bumper sticker?'”
(Undecided Democrats do the same thing, except that instead of a Ron Paul bumpersticker they throw themselves into volunteer work and convince themselves that politics don’t matter, activism does.)
Soonergrunt
Sullivan on Twitter: “He came back like a lethal but restrained predator, was able to defend own record, think swiftly on his feet, & Benghazi answer was superb.”
Krauthammer on Fox:”Obama clearly had a good night…clearly won on points.”
Mark Halperin: “I don’t think anyone could say Romney won this debate.”
Keith
@Mike in NC: I’ve come to the conclusion that since he just moved to NY, he hasn’t found a solid weed supply yet and is going through withdrawls. The extreme moodiness is a dead giveaway.
amk
Happy now, all you whiners ?
trollhattan
Jesus, this Pataki. I’m calling out you New Yorkers for ever electing this asshole.
dmsilev
@Violet: Begun, the mockery has.
My favorite so far: If you like it than you shoulda put three rings on it #bindersfullofwomen
? Martin
Well, if that didn’t do it…
Still lots of missed chances, but immeasurably better. And I think Obama will look better as this is replayed because the hilights were all of him kicking ass.
gene108
I love Romney’s economic plan. Once we get to full employment, your pitiful lot as one of the 99% will improve. Not a big prequalification there. Nope. Not at all.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Flipped to CNN because Larry O’Donnell is talking to the loathsome George Pataki, just in time to catch unseen CNNbot asking John Kerry, in a very leading way, if President Obama wasn’t too aggressive, going too far in overcorrecting.
Seanly
If you think Obama did a great job, contribute! I gave him another $35. I’m not even sure how much I’ve given him… (note: not anyway near the $2500 limit, hahahaha). My wife is also giving to our Democratic congressional candidate, Nicole LaFavour.
dmsilev
We have Total Meme Convergence.
Nina-the-first
@Original Lee: Romney has a debate doping scandal looming I hope.
digitals3rf
Happy and relieved I may be – I can’t believe POTUS got a “Perry Mason Moment” with the Benghazi lie by Rmoney – I still am afraid this isn’t going to move polls much back in Obama’s direction if at all. But at least we have our fighting Barack back. I want him to shit all over Rmoney in the final foreign policy debate too, where Obama has a big natural advantage. Will the polls reverse the ridiculous behavior though? Trying not to get my hopes up. But gawdayumn, that was way better than I had hoped for. I’d watch the whole thing again right now if I didn’t have to get up tomorrow early as usual, as part of that useless 47%.
andynotadam
Sullivan has starbursts on MSNBC!
God what must it be like to live on his roller-coaster?
me
Romney’s great-grandfather (and Huntsman’s) had a binder full of women.
burnspbesq
Sounds like Romney had a worse day than Joachim Low. Excellent!
priscianusjr
@RedKitten: when Obama got pissed off about the Libya thing, I was thoroughly impressed.
It was justified because, after all the negative reactions to his previous shenanigans on this issue, Romney still couldn’t resist going political on the presidential ass. Obama was totally ready for it.
? Martin
Obamas last statement on 47% is going to really hurt.
amk
@Seanly: Yup. Let’s some action from our side. Time to pay the fiddler.
jgaugust
@Soonergrunt: Holy shit. Krauthammer said Obama won? Wow. Just…wow…
Way to go O! A lot happier tonight about things.
psycholinguist
@Violet:
That is the greatest thing I have ever seen. Ever.
James E. Powell
@andrewsomething:
This wasn’t controversial at all until these kinds of programs became accessible to brown folk.
I have to explain to my two right-wing brothers that our father started his business, commercial refrigeration, with training on the GI Bill. As the business grew, the largest customers were school systems (cafeterias) who were paying prevailing wage with money from the school lunch program. It paid for our food and clothes and housing when we were being raised. Why complain?
But they do, don’t they?
Fuck ALL the chickens! (né Studly Pantload, t.e.u.u.)
@Bill E Pilgrim: Le win.
farmette
Binder women – kind of like call girls. Pepper them here and there when the meeting tilts too white and male. Unbelievable.
Helen
@trollhattan: Yeah. I didn’t vore for him, but yeah, we’re embarrassed.
Maude
@jwb:
I was replying to Bloomberg and Roll Call using variations of it during the debate. It was a wonderful goof by Romney.
AkaDad
Andrew Sullivan is elated at Obama’s performance. We can all sleep well now.
Michael
All the morents begging to be replayed belonged to Obama. People reading/watching for the first time tomorrow are going to see Crowley fact-checking Romney and the crowd cheering, Obama clowning on Romney’s pension and the crowd laughing, etc. slaughter.
marv
Not that it matters, but I put every superstition I have on this debate – and I was a professional baseball player for 8 years. This really mattered to me. Whatever else happens, I can deal with it.
General Stuck
TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!
Triassic Sands
Romney acts like a person who’s accustomed to telling servants what to do.
(Maybe when he touts his small business experience he’s talking about his household staff.)
? Martin
Nice to know that Romneys solution to equal pay for women is affirmative action. Totally didn’t see that coming.
kuvasz
If anyone wants to know what happened out there, just rewind the tape and take a look at how Anne Romney glanced at her husband as the crowd mingled at the end of the debate. Only those who have been in an intimate relationship could appreciate the look of sympathy towards her husband. She knew he blew it, and knows that he did, too.
Short Bus Bully
Gonna bring that bitch a binder. Bitches love binders…
Julia Grey
So did Mitt’s own FATHER! George Romney got a “hand out” from the US Government when he IMMIGRATED from Mexico during the civil war down there. It was called “WELFARE RELIEF,” and described as such by Mitt’s mother in a biographical film made in the 50s or 60s.
Yes, strictly speaking, George and his wife were US citizens born of US citizens, but they were immigrants just the same, and the “welfare” they got was a real live “HAND OUT” that continued over more than a few years.
Just Some Fuckhead
I didn’t think Crowley was all that. I didn’t really understand her constant need to pander to Romney, assuage his hurt feelings for not letting him speak out of turn, before letting him speak out of turn. Or why she felt the need to bail him out when she fact-checked him on “act of terror.”
She certainly didn’t have any problem shutting Obama down.
AkaDad
Romney: Government doesn’t create jobs.
Romney: I’m going to create 12 million jobs.
amk
@Bill E Pilgrim: Stolen and tweeted.
scottinnj
i dont think Romney got to the Candy Crowley binder.
But the next debate is on foreign policy where Rep traditionally have the advantage. Oh, wait a minute.
Also, too saving the 47% to the end, when Romney couldnt respond.. Brilliant.
West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.)
Political Observer? You there? Hello?… is this thing on?
The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik
CBS’s snap poll seems to be the only poll that didn’t have it as a complete washout, with 37%-33% Obama and 30% undecided. And from the sounds of it, they were the only ones really going out of their way to make it sound even steven.
But my opinion, homerun for Obama, but more importantly, no threats of chicken littles this time around.
Howard Beale IV
I’ve been streaming CNBC via SiriusXM while I was putting my garbage out for collection. I swear that Larry Kudlow is so in the tank for RMoney that I want to scream with his railing against MARGINAL tax rates, when he conveniently ignores the Bushies mantra that ‘deficits don’t matter’.
And Bartimonolo is such a 1% suckup that she should be ignored.
andynotadam
Romney: I like wind jobs in Iowa.
So that’s what you and Ann call them? Perhaps your preferred technique differs from mine, my friend…
piratedan
nice to see Romney continue to treat latinos as second class citizens, gonna really help out in Colo, NC, Nevada and AZ.
priscianusjr
@Original Lee: a lot of businessmen from lower altitudes use oxygen supplements if they don’t have enough time to acclimate before an important meeting. Don’t know how true it is.
I can believe it. The only time I was in the high mountains was once when I was in Albuquerque for a few days, which is one mile up, and I felt like shit for about the first 24 hrs.
Can't Be Bothered
Knock out. Knock out. Knock out. Press the advantage. Don’t allow this to turn in to a tie. It was fucking destruction on every level. So let everyone that you know, also know that right now. Go Freep the polls. Go post on facebook. This was complete devastation and we can’t let them spin out of it. Go FORTH and evangelize. NOW.
TexasMango
After tonight I really think there was something to Al Gore’s theory about Obama having altitude sickness.
In fact, I thinks a more then credible claim after tonight.
Mark
Call Jason “Mayhem” Miller. That was a bully beatdown.
SIA
CNBC. Snap poll
Ash Can
Oh you guys are totally full of shit; Obama lost the entire fucking election with the last debate and nothing else counts. Now if you’ll excuse me I’m going to go yet another drink and start reading through this thread from the beginning and laugh my ass off. And that’s a lotta laughing, lemme tell ya.
YellowJournalism
Anyone else get a weird tingle up their leg when Obama uses the phrase “jerked around?” just me?
I hate that I missed Pissed Off Obama.
geg6
Damn, took me forever to get in here. Site was all kinds of borked.
O-man kicked some fucking ass. The dog has been looking funny at me ever since I screamed “Yeah mother fucker” the first time O called Mittens a liar.
Hope all the whiny panicking assholes are happy now.
Jeremy
For you people talking about polls. Romney’s bounce has eroded and Obama is winning period. Stop buying the corporate media spin. There are pollsters out there who are oversampling conservatives and under sampling minorities. The media did the same thing in 2008 with shady polling and it was wrong including Gallup USA today which has a conservative bent.
Donut
@The Other Chuck:
Even aside from Romney’s truly EPIC fumble and real-time Crowley fact check, Barack put the Benghazi bullshit to rest by stating unequivocally that he is the responsible party and that Romney’s politicization was offensive.
I think it’s absolutely huge that Obama stepped up, praised Sec. Clinton, and then said, “this is on me.”
Hugely, really important formthe country to hear that from him.
I don’t know that the Romney camp now has a credible attack on the issue now.
Gin & Tonic
@Just Some Fuckhead: This. She was only “good” in that everyone expected her to be much worse.
Short Bus Bully
@Can’t Be Bothered:
Sound advice there my friend.
Mike Lamb
@burnspbesq: Unpossible. Jogi’s very bad day was epic.
SW
I heard there was a debate tonight but Excel Energy in Colorado cut my power right in the middle of it.
trollhattan
@West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.):
I’m having a delicious taco, right now. Abado, thanks.
I’m as giddy as a schoolgirl. A +5 schoolgirl.
bemused
Crowley was a very good moderator. I was shocked but happily so.
I’m guessing Ann is pretty angry right now. It’s going to be interesting to hear her next public words. Will she say her man was absolutely not politicizing the consulate attack?
Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason
@marv: “I put every superstition I have on this debate – and I was a professional baseball player for 8 years.”
Wow, that’s gotta be a lot of superstitions! Thanks for your help.
Ira-NY
All the MOMENTS of this debate belonged to Obama. This will grow Obama’s win tomorrow as these MOMENTS are played over and over.
suzanne
Fuck. Yes. THAT is my President.
I LOVED Romney getting caught lying on the Benghazi thing, I loved when BHO schooled him on the drilling permits, and the moment when Obama said he was offended by Romney’s attacks on the State Department, I was on my feet cheering.
Another Halocene Human
Fuck, yeah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV9VuPkIIv4
Now, bring me a liter of wingnut tears! I must drink!
different-church-lady
And just to make it a truly great night, the Tigers just took game 3.
Spaghetti Lee
In case you need some headbang, the trolls at TPM were talking about how Crowley ‘covered’ for Obama’s ‘lies’, BECAUSE, he referred to the Benghazi attack as an ‘act of terror’, but not ‘terrorism’. LOL uR sO PW3ND, LIBZZ!
James E. Powell
@marv:
I was a professional baseball player for 8 years.
Throneberry? Is that you? From some place in Iowa?
The Other Bob
And now we wait like 5 days to see if the polls improve.
Richard Fox
Where is that idiot “Political Observer”? I would have thought he’ve chimed in by now.
As for my President — I always had faith, debates or no. And as for Sullivan– he can go sit on a tack. Will never waste time reading him again. Period.
the Conster
And the Yankees just lost too. Great night. I’m going to sleep so much better. Thanks O and Verlander!
MoZeu
@Bill E Pilgrim: lol!
shortstop
I enjoyed my evening in front of the TV very much.
Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason
@Original Lee: Meh. I spent 6 weeks in La Paz at 12,000 feet. We took off for a weekend in Sorata down at 8,000 to get some air. 5,000 ain’t that big a deal.
Maybe Romney did what the Bolivians do and chewed too many coca leaves to help with his soroche.
MoZeu
@Bill E Pilgrim: lol! If I were more motivated, I would steal this and photoshop me a tumblr, but I’m too tired. . .
MoZeu
@Bill E Pilgrim: lol! If I were more motivated, I would steal this and photoshop me a tumblr, but I’m too tired. . .
Spaghetti Lee
@trollhattan:
The best KIND of schoolgirl!
Just Some Fuckhead
@Gin & Tonic: And is she the one that decided shills with questions written by the RNC should represent themselves as “undecided” voters?
I’m sorry, but if you ask a loaded question about gas prices and reference the Secretary of Energy BY NAME, you aren’t undecided.
priscianusjr
@Redleg: Fuck Sununu for calling Obama lazy and not very smart. Romney looked like a douche tonight! Obama looked cool and in command!
No, no, he’s an empty suit, we all know that. He did terrible because he didn’t have a teleprompter. Romney practically sent him back to Kenya. Who ya gonna believe, me — or your lying eyes?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
hilts
Great night!
First, Obama beats Romney and then the Detroit Tigers beat those goddamn, motherfucking NY Yankees.
Maude
@Donut:
Romney tried to score points by disrespecting US Ambassador Stevens ever since the attack.
Obama put a stop to that.
mds
@Soonergrunt:
Mr. Halperin, I believe you’ve already met Mr. Kurtz?
To quote the irrepressible joe from Lowell in the Lawyers, Guns, and Money comment thread: “Exactly, Mr. Kurtz! Nobody could think Romney was a rich phony after tonight!”
And Hogan: “There’s nothing like being fact-checked in real time by the moderator to prove that you’re SO NOT A LIAR.”
burnspbesq
@Mike Lamb:
I’m pissed that we didn’t score two own goals at the end. I fucking hate the fucking Reggae Boyz.
Clint was awesome tonight. Michael Bradley played the best game of his life.
pseudonymous in nc
As my SO said, Romney comes across like a man who has enjoyed arguing since he took issue with the doctor who slapped him at birth. What he doesn’t like is losing arguments, just as he doesn’t like losing races at the Romney Family Compound.
jwb
@Seanly: I tried to donate a few minutes ago, but the server was slammed. I’ll try again later tonight.
Howard Beale IV
@Ash Can: As a wise man once said: “it ins’t over ’till it’s over”.
And it isn’t over yet.
TexasMango
LOL!
http://i.imgur.com/PaXzI.jpg
? Martin
@Spaghetti Lee: that’s not going to end well..
Paul
On CNN’s website they have their own poll that had Obama beating Romney in the debate by 46-39. Then they add that “it’s basically a tie”.
Goodness…
mai naem
Paul Ryan’s got to be happy. His little made up soup kitchen trip is now forgotten.
Bill E Pilgrim
Anchor on ABC “They really didn’t like each other”
The Sally Field school of journamalism.
Irony Abounds
Maybe she’s a corporate shill, but I have to say Erin Burnett is friggin hot.
Anya
@Just Some Fuckhead: I agree with you. But I think she was less of a tool than I anticipated.
I am beginning to worry because I keep agreeing with JSF.
shortstop
If Mitt liked it, then he shoulda put three rings on it.
jwb
PPP releasing quick poll of CO voters. Oddly, Obama didn’t win by that much overall (44-40). Even odder, the numbers were about the same with respect to men and women. I wonder what the other 16% really made of the debate.
Culture of Truth
“whole binders full of women”
That’s fucking classic
arguingwithsignposts
Jesus FUCK Cole is this site fucking inaccessible after the debate! You should have just left a CIL window open the whole fucking night if you’re not going to fix the goddamn pipes on this fucking blog!
Tonal Crow
@SteveinSC:
An Orc fight is truly a thing of beauty.
Spaghetti Lee
@James E. Powell:
Well, that Marv died in ’94, but he did play for 8 years. Spooky!
James E. Powell
Three minute summary of the debate from ABC
GregB
Romney aid spotted at Walgreens buying ass chap medication.#Romneyschappedass
Brassknuckle Diplomacy
Crowley actually told Lord Autumnbottom to sit down when he once again decided it was his divine right to change the response/rebuttal order. Leher backed right down in the first debate.
How does this clown not come across for everyone like the entitled prick he so obviously is? He carries himself in a manner that suggests he’s in complete disbelief whenever someone doesn’t avert their gaze and say “Yes Sir” after everything he says.
? Martin
Big credit to Crowley for just one act. The live fact check was something we so desperately need – nice to see it happen if only once. She didn’t spontaneously combust doing it – maybe we could see more of that?
Liberty60
@arguingwithsignposts:
Yeah, I’m gonna ask for my money back
Culture of Truth
Oh and Andy Sullivan can screw off
Mnemosyne
@marv:
I wore the same socks today that I wore for the Biden/Ryan debate and now plan to wear them again for the third debate. I assume I should not wash them until after Election Day?
Kamalo Kitty
@Robin G.: @Robin G.: Yes! POTUS had that pointed laser beam look in his eye and I wanted to disappear! Finally. The President Man got all pissed off and took some dayum umbrage!
suzanne
@Culture of Truth: I guess that’s where Mormons hide their porn.
honus
The debate performance of the President caused me to recall the prose of the late Dr. Thompson:
“The precision-jack hammer attack of the Miami Dolphins stomped the balls off the Minnesota Vikings today by stomping and hammering with one precise jack-thrust after another up the middle, mixed with pinpoint-precision passes into the flat and numerous hammer-jackstops around both ends…”
Soonergrunt
Jonah Goldberg of NRO just now on Twitter (RT by Jesse Taylor): “Just not finding Luntz Focus group plausible.”
And Mitt’s tale about binder of women for his cabinet–turns out it’s bullshit.
http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolitics/archive/2012/10/16/mind-the-binder.aspx
Birthmarker
@Mnemosyne: You assume correctly.
Culture of Truth
Chuck Todd: “Romeny was hanging tough there…”
keep trying Chucky
Paul
@Howard Beale IV:
During the health care debate, Bartiromo asked some Democratic politician whether he realized that responsible people would be offended having to pay for other people’s health care.
I don’t recall Bartiromo asking Republican politicians whether responsible people would be offended having to pay for Bush’s war in Iraq.
Short Bus Bully
Last time I had a binder full of women my mom found it under my mattress.
So embarassing…
danimal
My favorite part was when the ACME anvil came crashing on Romney just as he thought he had cornered the roadrunner
Obama.gnomedad
@The Other Bob:
So I should stop refreshing Five Thirty Eight?
Comrade Mary
This video needs to go at the top of the post or elsewhere on the front page (and not just because of my undying crush on JD Samson).
pseudonymous in nc
@Paul:
Or, more to the point, paying to keep the banksters she slobbers over in business.
Howard Beale IV
@AkaDad: +1
suzanne
I bet Big Bird is on the cover of one of those binders. Maybe Mitt REALLY likes Big Bird.
honus
@marv: Never was a pro, but I know baseball superstition: Wore the same shirt every time I pitched and played the last month of the season and through the playoffs, and then my mom somehow got it and washed it before the state championship game.
And we lost. This was in 1973, and I’m still pissed. We should have beat those guys.
Villago Delenda Est
Candy Crowley obviously noted the reviews of the previous debate moderator, and didn’t want to be described as Jim Lehrer with tits.
Surprisingly good, give her credit. She didn’t let the parasite get away with that lie.
Anya
@Soonergrunt: Jesus Christ! Is Romney capable of making a single statement that’s based on truth? He’s kid must be really ashamed of him. I would be if my dad was a serial liar.
amk
@arguingwithsignposts: Now tell us how you reeeally feel about cole’s great vista moment.
? Martin
@Short Bus Bully: Don’t like the fatties eh?
JPL
@Mnemosyne: Well I have on my bfd shirt and if it helps the cause, I certainly will wear it again.
jwb
Sam Wang over at Princeton Election Consortium rounds up the snap polls:
Note that all four of these snap polls have R-leaning samples. (PPP is R+3; Andrew Sullivan, who the fuck knows.)
SectionH
@SteveinSC: Mr S and I are sending you our internets tonight.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Chuck Todd Concerned that “suburban women” will be turned off by the aggressive machismo of ‘both candidates’.
JCT
@Soonergrunt: What a fucking surprise. Really he is just incapable of telling the truth. Frightening.
Narcissus
God
Fuck Chuck Todd
Steve
I guess I’m the only one who didn’t watch the debate. I’m thrilled so many people are rooting for the Tigers, though!
Comrade Mary
Oh, and maybe this one for Mitt.
Tom Q
I’ll repeat what I said earlier today at the end of a thread: I think the situation after the first debate was much like the one after the first Reagan/Mondale debate in ’84. Reagan went into that the clear favorite for re-election, but had such an uncharacteristically hideous performance that his seemingly hopeless challenger was energized and suddenly seemed a threat to win. But the overall gestalt remained: voters were still inclined to re-elect; they just wanted reassurance that stranger who’d stumbled through the first debate wasn’t the new normal. All Reagan really had to do was show up as a semblance of his usual self, and voters would be reassured about their initial impulse. He did it with a prepared one-liner, but really just by not repeating the initial bad showing.
It’s the same here. Obama had mounted a significant lead going into the first debate; voters were inclined to keep him on. But that weirdly passive guy who couldn’t seem to be bothered to defend his own record was an alien to them, and I think potential Obama voters have spent the two weeks since in real doubt. Tonight should wipe that away.
As many have pointed out, the fundamentals of the race have always favored Obama (especially lately, with the surprisingly strong jobs report, and the fact that consumer confidence is at a five-year high). Without a major reason to doubt their judgment, voters will re-elect comfortably three weeks from now.
Howard Beale IV
@the Conster: Break out the broom, I’d say.
Bill E Pilgrim
@amk: Hey not fair. I just saw it. No attribution?
Villago Delenda Est
@Richard Fox:
Taco is probably finding succor in Gallup’s obsolete polling methodology right about now.
Triassic Sands
Candy Crowley was spectacular?
Wow, perceptions really do vary.
@Anya:
He’s such a liar his kids don’t believe he’s their father (except at trust fund time, and then, they’re just pretending.)
Paul
@jwb:
Wolf Blitzer already claimed that 46-39 for Obama is a tie. Go figure. “Best political team in the business”…
Ash Can
@marv: It’s not superstition, it’s ritual. ;)
the Conster
@Steve:
We’re rooting against the Yankees, so any team will do.
Gex
@Can’t Be Bothered: I do kinda enjoy the juxtaposition between your handle and your message here.
Spaghetti Lee
@Steve:
Well, consider the alternative.
Villago Delenda Est
@Anya:
His kids are dogshit, just like their vile sire.
jwb
Tweet from PPP: “People who watched on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, and PBS in CO think Obama won. C-Span, ABC, Fox News, Fox viewers for Mitt.”
Short Bus Bully
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Uh, who the fuck does he think is buying that “50 Shades of Grey” bullshit?
Yet another example of Chuck Todd being a dumbshit…
efroh
I was planning on putting together a Curiosity-the-Martian-Rover costume for Halloween, but I’ve now decided to dress as a gigantic Binder. Much easier than trying to find a pair of old school roller skates for my rover wheels. Thank you, Mittens!
Another Halocene Human
@Michael: Obama clowning on Romney’s pension and the crowd laughing
Obama really cut loose–probably didn’t mean to, it just came out. I was ecstatic! Wow! And it cut Mitt pretty damn good.
DAMN, Obama! If that’s what you’ve been holding back, uh, hold back a little bit less.
And you were right–YOU GOT THIS. I’ve got your back. Early voting 10/27 Florida, and I intend to do poll watching on 11/6.
chrome agnomen
@James E. Powell:
my first thought, too, but marv passed in ’94.
jwb
@Paul: Yes, Obama wins by 7 with a R+8 sample and Blitzer calls it a tie. Of course, Blitzer calls basically everything a tie. What did he say about the first debate?
Ron
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Concern troll is concerned.
master c
@trollhattan: praise the baby jesus-Im not ready to give up my Sully.
Howard Beale IV
@Paul: She tried to pound Spitzer into the ground over his prosecution of Hank Greenberg of AIG-too bad for her Greenberg acquiesed.
kindness
I had said I’d never go to Sully’s for another debate but I peeked during the debate. He was overjoyed with Obama and pushing that.
On other sites, news, pbs the comments from people give me pause. It seems there are a whole bunch of people out there who think their own ravings will seal the deal for their guy (mostly Romney braying asses but I have no doubt our side has them too). That is what is so difficult, the whole concept that permeates so many that your opponent is your enemy. Having said that, the TeaHaddists & the Dominionists are my enemy. I just don’t hate them like they do me.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Villago Delenda Est: i’m not proud of it, but part of me wants Obama to win just so the Mittlets will cry. It’s way down on my list, probably in triple digits, but it’s on there.
Also, too, Tbogg
Bobby Thomson
@jwb:
Good, lord. The subsample sizes for that in Colorado have to be tiny, especially with a snap poll. Not even worth mentioning.
handy
@Culture of Truth:
“Keep fucking that chicken, Chucky” just rolls off the tongue so easily.
Mark S.
McMegan shows why she gets paid the big bucks:
Profound. And my favorite:
Don’t just stand their bust a move!
JPL
The only time Crowley called Mitt a liar was during the answer about Benghazi. She already allowed the question being about the embassy at Benghazi so do not give her to much credit.
amk
@jwb: Thanks jwb. Tweeted that.
arguingwithsignposts
My organizers of paper products, they overflow with wenches
Death Panel Truck
@Narcissus: I knew Chuck Todd was a GOP tool on election night 2008. The disappointment in his voice was palpable as state after state went to Obama, and he had to acknowledge that “it doesn’t look good for McCain.”
Redshift
Debates are so much better with rum. I will never watch one sober again. I was much more relaxed, and went from shouting “Lie!” to occasionally muttering “lie…” in the back of the room.
Original Lee
I thought Romney’s emphasis on China very interesting, as it was after the meltdown began. His claim that he would label China a currency manipulator on his first day in office (my, what a busy first day, too!), for instance. I’m sure the WTO would be very interested in an executive order declaring China a currency manipulator. And if Rmoney is honest about wanted to create more American jobs, pissing off China like that will totally work, because it’s not as if they are the major market for rare earth metals we need for things like the wind turbine jobs in Iowa he says he likes so much.
Another Halocene Human
@Just Some Fuckhead: Crowley sucked but at least she kept control of the debate, which Lehrer utterly failed to.
Lehrer was terrible four years ago too, so why was anyone surprised when he sucked again? Man shoulda retired centuries ago.
Edit: corrected spelling
dww44
@James E. Powell: @andrewsomething: You have explained to your rightwing brothers or you’ve yet to explain to them how their childhood was in part funded by government school lunch program money? I am assuming it’s the former.
This past weekend I visited family in the rural and disadvantaged part of the state where I grew up, (now with a majority Black population)and discovered a Romney/Ryan sign in my 74 year old brother’s yard. I figured his bachelor 40 something son was the Obama supporter, but he says he is. If there was ever a case of someone voting against his own economic interests it would be he and his wife and his son. Without Medicare both are cooked geese and there’s no way they can afford higher premiums. I’m collecting arguments from the internet to send to him, as I fear he’s voting for Romney for no good reason. Gonna give him good reasons to vote the other way. We shall see.
handy
@Bobby Thomson:
So basically people who watch news channels they believe align with their party affiliation thought their candidate won. How profound.
Suffern ACE
@Bobby Thomson: I know. I think it was CNN or CBS who declared it a tie in the VP debate based on the results of their focus group. Yeah. That’s a sample.
master c
We saw Chuck Todd on the street once, my sister yelled out to him”Chuck! Dont be a Republican…Chuck Todd!”
He waved at us.
Supposed to be neutral-no?
Spaghetti Lee
@Mark S.:
The dumbest moments of these debates is when they just stand their calling each other liars
Too true. I’d rather they staged MORTAL KOMBAT!!!
Hal
Conservative Facebook friends very quiet tonight.
Mnemosyne
@Birthmarker:
G got worried for a minute that I was planning to wear these unwashed socks every day until the election, but I reassured him that that would just use the luck up prematurely, so they only get worn again for the third debate and on Election Day, which of course is much more rational.
Michael
Malkin now claiming that Crowley was wrong on Libya/act of terror. LOL. You know they’re going to pair the clip of him ACTUALLY saying “act of terror” with the debate clip. W gets STILL in fantasy land.
amk
@Bill E Pilgrim: Sorry pal. It’s sooooo hard to do attribution in friggin’ 140 words.
I gave the attribution here. :)
Lurking Canadian
During the Crowley fact-check of the Benghazi thing, I just loved the president looking right at him and saying, “Proceed, Governor”. Only, what he really said was, “Go ahead and step on your own dick on live TV you lying sack of shit”. Love that man.
Also, yes, I think Crowley did everybody a favour by not letting Romney have the chance to rebut the rebuttal on the first question. Really set the tone.
And I was loving the reaction shots of Romney towards the end. Dude literally looked like he had to race to the toilet and was barely holding it in.
So glad I watched this one. UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH bitches!!!!
Spaghetti Lee
@arguingwithsignposts:
While I think lots of memes suck, Joseph Ducreux I ALWAYS find funny. Can’t help it.
suzanne
Totally non-scientific, but all my right-wing friends on Facebook are uncharacteristically silent. It’s really nice.
Seanly
@The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik:
Some friends on Facebook mentioned that NPR announced it a tie. They’re great people & very liberal except always got mad at me back in 2004 when I talked about how insane Republicans were (are).
cosima
But Mexican Mitt Romney says “I Juan Again!”
https://twitter.com/MexicanMitt
I love the coverit thing. BJ commenters are amazingly entertaining, and it’s so much better for my state of mind that I not actually have to look at or listen to RMoney.
Death Panel Truck
@arguingwithsignposts: I like this one better.
Spaghetti Lee
@Mnemosyne:
Maybe you should sacrifice a few small animals in their name as well. Can’t be too careful.
Another Halocene Human
@YellowJournalism: Anyone else get a weird tingle up their leg when Obama uses the phrase “jerked around?” just me?
YES.
Well, it wasn’t a leg tingle, sorry. But I sat up straighter. Like, “whoa, did PBHO just say ‘jerked around’? Yes. Yes he did.”
Incivility we can believe in.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Culture of Truth: Is that D-ring or view binders? This also could be a new porn movie with an Romney portrayal Binders Full Of Women.
different-church-lady
“I’m Wolf Blitzer with sports news. Tonight baseball playoff game ended in a 2-1 tie, and the Tigers now hold a 3 games to none lead, which is within the margin of error.”
Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason
@the Conster: Me too, rooting for anyone but the FTFYs after they squeaked by my O’s. Why oh why didn’t Jeter break his foot last Thursday?
Just Some Fuckhead
@Michael:
It does appear as if he said it in Colorado the next day, not in the Rose Garden.
arguingwithsignposts
@Death Panel Truck: Good one.
Howard Beale IV
@pseudonymous in nc: You would be wrong: she damn near gave Spitzer a colonoscopy over l’affiare Greenberg @ AIG-too bad for her poor ol’ Hank pled guilty.
Spaghetti Lee
@different-church-lady:
Man, imagine if sports reporters acted like news reporters.
“Polls indicate that the Tigers may have won the game, but a poll of Yankee fans suggests that Justin Verlander was too aggressive and impolite, so we’re going to call this one a tie.”
Michael
@Just Some Fuckhead: They showed the clip on MSNBC. First thing he said was something about how our nation won’t be cowed by acts of terror.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Just Some Fuckhead: Nope, Rose Garden, iwth Hillary at his side, I’m watching it on Tweety right now
Spatula
Obama brought it!
Nice to see.
Grade: A
Mnemosyne
@Spaghetti Lee:
Considering how sweaty my feet get in the course of a day, I think the unwashed socks will be sufficiently disgusting, thankyewverymuch.
pseudonymous in nc
The Benghazi stuff is all because the GOP is desperate to invoke Iran and Carter. It’s fucking pathetic.
Chris Stevens was a career government employee (i.e. a moocher in the eyes of the GOP) who took the dangerous jobs not for the money or the perks, but because foreign service is a vocation. Libya has gone from a place where everybody knows which crazy fucker is in charge to one where the spectrum of “not that crazy fucker” extends from “people we can work with” to “equally crazy fuckers”.
@Original Lee:
The Chinese leadership is, I suspect, more or less indifferent to the US election and whatever is said about it by either candidate. It has its own transition upcoming, and with that transition comes thoughts of the next transition in 2022. The Chinese elite give at least half a shit about climate change because they fully expect to be in charge for the foreseeable future, which is a fairly depressing reflection on the ability of democratic politics to deal with it.
Randy P
@suzanne: My supposedly undecided friend informed me today that the Biden-Ryan debate shifted him toward Romney because Biden was mean, and texted me during this one that Obama’s performance was shifting him farther toward Romney.
chrome agnomen
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason:
shit. why didn’t he break it last century?
cmorenc
@Mnemosyne:
NO, you shall not wash them until the Electoral College has met and officially made Obama the winner. Or better yet, you shall not wash them until Obama’s second inaugural and he’s taken the oath of office to begin his second term.
suzanne
@Randy P: Your friend is a fuckwit.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, I just saw that too. I had originally looked at a FoxNewsInsider clip and they probably clipped it out. I’m watching the whole thing on Youtube now looking for it. I’ve got FB friends claiming he didn’t say it.
geg6
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Huh. They showed a clip of the Rose Garden presser on MSNBC (I’m pretty sure, HRC was next to him) and he said it there. Maybe I mis-saw?
Bill E Pilgrim
@amk: Hey Tolstoy wrote entire novels with 140 characters.
But oh, okay then. Kindly accepted.
ellie
I was on a plane during the debate and missed it. I believe about the altitude sickness. I moved to Denver in February and I still have not been able to run my customary five miles a day yet. I am getting there at 3 miles a day, but it is slow going. Plus, everything is uphill here as opposed to NW Ohio, one of the flattest places around.
SatanicPanic
@Randy P: Hey if your friend wants to vote for wimps what can you do?
Steve
@Just Some Fuckhead: You can read the Rose Garden transcript if you like, although it is probably one of those skewed transcripts.
handy
@Randy P:
Sounds like the only thing he was ever undecided about was getting off the couch and voting.
Michael
Poll of likely voters in battleground states who watched the debate: 55-38. Lake Research something or other
Gex
@Hal: I saw a friend of a friend:
1) Demand Obama’s college transcripts
2) Demand to know why the media won’t ask Obama about the million dollars he’s spent to hide his secret past.
Futurama clip
Desert Rat
@Spaghetti Lee:
There are a lot of sociopaths in America. It explains a lot of right wing politics in this country, if you think about it.
Cacti
I wonder if Mitt’s boys told him what a great performance he gave.
Mitt did say they’re a pack of liars.
Ron
@dmsilev: There’s also one to go with the McKayla is not impressed meme.
mai naem
@Randy P: And I am sure it has nothing absolutely nothing to do with Obama being blackity blackity black.
Just Some Fuckhead
He says his at 4:24 in the Rose Garden speech:
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.
Today we mourn for more Americans who represent the very
best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
Desert Rat
@Seanly:
NPR=Nice Polite Republicans.
Anybody who donates to them are tools.
Gretchen
@mai naem: Ryan’s soup kitchen hoax was the first bit on the Daily Show.
James E. Powell
@chrome agnomen:
I guess my clever Iowa reference was not so clever after all.
Peter
The weirdest moment of the night was the Benghazi fact-check. That was a TOTAL own goal. That would never have happened if Romney hadn’t dared Candy to do it. I can’t imagine what he was trying to accomplish with that.
Steve
Wingnuts are flipping out on Twitter. Supposedly when Obama said on 9/12
he apparently wasn’t saying that those four Americans had been killed in an act of terror. He was just saying “acts of terror” in relation to generic violence, and then when he brought up the four dead Americans in Libya in the next sentence it was a completely unrelated point. So you see, Candy Crowley totally lied!
Will reality ever penetrate their bubble? Wait, don’t answer that.
Gex
@Randy P: Bet he wishes there was more substance in politics too. /headdesk
Another Halocene Human
jus’ get out the way and let the gentleman do his thing
take the sheet off your face, boy, it’s a brand new day
Respect Yourself
Haydnseek
@Steve: We don’t give a single fuck about the Tigers. We just hate the Yankees.
Another Halocene Human
@different-church-lady: “I’m Wolf Blitzer with sports news. Tonight baseball playoff game ended in a 2-1 tie, and the Tigers now hold a 3 games to none lead, which is within the margin of error.”
Both sides do it!
meyerman
@Just Some Fuckhead: Have a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nu6VZ9DeVc. Doesn’t look a lot like Colorado.
karen
@Richard Fox:
He’s now called “Ash Can.”
karen
@Richard Fox:
He’s now called “Ash Can.”
batgirl
God, these “undecided voters” in Ohio on MSNBC are idiots.
Just Some Fuckhead
@meyerman: There’s no need to get passive-aggressive, douchenozzle. Keep reading the thread.
amk
@Bill E Pilgrim: leo was a-hole. :)
It was a great comment begging to be tweeted.
Brian R.
Focus group on MSNBC is depressing me. They scored it 1-1-6, with the bulk calling it a tie. Seem to be leaning more to Romney now.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Steve:
Or if he bothered to fact check the talk radio dumbassery that has been the basis of his campaign for two years, or rather to stick to talk radio dumbassery that he could keep vague enough to confuse Tom Brokaw and Wolf Blitzer
Steve
@Haydnseek: As long as you’re rooting for the Tigers to beat the Yankees, I really don’t give a fuck why.
marv
@Mnemosyne:
I’m pretty sure that’s right, but it’s impossible to be certain.
Ruckus
@Anya:
Do you really think the apple has fallen far from the tree?
dww44
@Seanly: NPR very liberal? I don’t think so;they’re too worried about their funding. They tilt right these days.
Walker
@Brian R.:
Focus groups are not representative samples of anything. Especially in the one swing state Romney has no hope of winning.
Original Lee
@pseudonymous in nc: The Chinese leadership is largely indifferent unless they think it will become policy later. I meant that Rmoney would piss off the Chinese if one of the first things he did as President was to call them currency manipulators.
ranchandsyrup
@Hal: Back to back BOTH SIDES R LIARS on my fb. Under the rules of high broderism, this is an admission that mitt is lying.
Birthmarker
@Mnemosyne: Good to know you are working for us!
bemused
@batgirl:
Listening to them trying to articulate why they like Mitt makes my head hurt. No brain work whatsoever, just knee-jerk, gut voters
James E. Powell
@Brian R.:
They are waiting to be told what to think. If they really are ‘undecided’ at this point in our history, then they are people who either cannot or will not think for themselves.
Walker
@James E. Powell:
Which is why undecideds are useless. GOTV efforts are far more effective at the margin than undecideds.
Can't Be Bothered
@Brian R.:
STOPT IT STOP IT STOP. Romeny just got crushed. Fuck 6 morons in a room somewhere. Jesus fucking Christ. Obama just got reelected tonight. FUCK OFF with your concern.
pseudonymous in nc
@Brian R.: For those people, it’s a choice between being part of an undecided-voter focus group or on stage for Maury Povich’s “I Eat Paste” special.
Seriously, this is a turnout election. The number of undecided voters right now is small, and they will make their choice based upon reasons that have nothing to do with the campaign itself. Get one “oh, it’s too much hassle” person to the polls, especially if you’re in an early voting state.
JustAnotherBob
@dww44: Tilt right? Not as I see it.
NPR comes as close as anything to going right down the middle as anything I can find. Some of the stuff they bring is pro-right, but they don’t bring is as advocacy but information, IMO. They also bring a fair amount of pro-left.
What they mostly bring is intelligence. Depth. And compassion for others.
I think they do a pretty good job of getting inside issues while not getting so deep that they chase off most of their audience.
Mnemosyne
@bemused:
They realize on some level that they can’t, in the year 2012, say, “I’m voting for Romney because he’s white,” so they’re flailing around trying to come up with another plausible rationale.
noabsolutes
@Soonergrunt: goddamn, this motherfucker can’t even bullshit without bullshitting.
pseudonymous in nc
@JustAnotherBob:
And tote bags. But sorry, no, NPR news sucks. Listen to the BBC World Service for a week, or CBC Radio 1 for that matter.
EnoughIsEnough
@Robin G.:
Absolutely. We witnessed that spine of steel that Biden talks about. PBO was fierce!
priscianusjr
@AkaDad:
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Jeremy:
I was watching CNN when they announced their internal after debate polling. Wolfie said that the Repubs in the poll were overrepresented by 8% and the results were that 46% thought Obama won and 39% thought Rmoney won. Based on the composition of the group and their oversampling of Repubs, Wolfie then ‘interpreted’ the results as a tie with maybe a slight edge to Rmoney.
Fuck is he an idiot.
priscianusjr
@Brian R.:
csbella
@Bill E Pilgrim: Stolen and tweeted also too.
burnspbesq
@Desert Rat:
Eat me, jack. In the second-largest radio market in America, the only radio stations that play any decent music are listener-supported, and the best one of all is the NPR outlet. I’m proud to give $ to all of them.
Uncle Cosmo
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: Preach it, fellow O’s fan! We are all Tigers fans now. FTFY!
Paula
@burnspbesq:
OMG what happened with Sweden there …
different-church-lady
@burnspbesq: Wait… you have an NPR-affiliated station that still plays music? Enjoy it while you can — the frikin’ Jane Christo virus will consume it eventually.
patrick
@dmsilev:
he was THIS CLOSE to going all Luther on his ass…..
I still wish he would’ve called Mitt out on the deficit lie. he says obama has doubled the deficit….he hasn’t. GWB’s last budget produced a 1.4T deficit, total US debt of $13T
president obama’s 2012 budget is $1T deficit, $16T total debt…where in any of that is a doubling of anything?
and I know math is hard, but they NEED to clearly state what Paul Krugman states. the US is an insurance company with an army, that in all of his “wild spending”, 25% of the budget is SS. 25% is MEdicare/Medicaid. 25% is defense spending, 4% is education, 6% is interest on the national debt, ~10% is temporary unemployment insurance, and 5% IS EVERYTHING ELSE….66% of the budget can’t be touched by law, 91% can’t be
touched with practicality….you CAN’T balance the budget with these realities AND cut taxes for everybody, as Mitt claims….