On the eve of the first presidential debate, conservative media outlets seized on footage of a five-year-old, widely covered speech by then-presidential candidate Barack Obama, who argued at the time that the federal government discriminated against Hurricane Katrina victims.
The June 2007 speech at Hampton University in Virginia was widely covered by CNN and other news outlets, as Obama was already well into his presidential campaign, running alongside then-Sen. Hillary Clinton at the front of the polls.
So much fail. But really, it all boils down to this. What you and I see when we look at the President:
What Tucker Carlson and his lunatic cohorts see:
It really is that simple. As someone noted in another thread, we’re almost to the point that if any black person states “Slavery was wrong, mmkay,” wingnuts will freak out and start screaming reverse racism and babbling incoherently about the race card.
HW3
Yeah Boy!
JPL
Both sides do it though. Now I am going to look for my freedoms because they were stolen from me.
Dork
Yeaaaaaaaah Boyyyyyeeeeee!
Napoleon
They truely believe if they just point out one more time, and say it a little louder this time, that there is a shiftless negro in the White House the American public will wake up and vote against him. It reminds me of some people when talking to non-English speakers. Just say it again but louder this time and they will suddenly understand you.
geg6
What a lovely family! Can’t help saying it, it’s how I react every time I see them. As an aside, I can’t believe how grown up Malia and Sasha are just four years older. They grow up so fast!
Who is the other dude? He doesn’t scare this lily white old lady, but he does make me burst out in giggles. Is he a comedian? Or wait…is he the washed up rapper guy who had a dating show on VH1 or something? All I know is, if that is him, he’s just a clown.
Are other white people really that afraid of clowns?
Face
It’s 5 after 6 and Flav doesn’t have a brew (or skanky broad) in his hand?
Capt. Seaweed
Just in time for the first debate. Such a coincidence!
This will be a topic tonight.
dmsilev
Can I buy the race card from Hallmark? Or is it one of those things in games like Magic: The Gathering?
I’ve always wondered.
geg6
@Napoleon:
My boss does that with our international students. I cringe every time.
? Martin
I want Obama to come out tonight with the presidential seal hanging around his neck like that.
Oh, and I want him to retort to Romney after the first zinger “Hey, that one wasn’t bad! All of that practice is really paying off. You have better ones saved for later, though, right?”
Punchy
Once, while at the horsetrack, I too played the race card.
Hill Dweller
While I’m thrilled they’re mocking the wingnuts, they still manage to imply Obama accused Bush of racism. In reality, Obama explicitly said Dubya’s incompetence was colorblind.
Tone In DC
Man… no need to be hatin’ on Flav like that. Though I would not want to see a shot of Chuck D, Bobby Seal or Harold Washington, either.
Chyron HR
Regarding a particular member of the Obama household:
“Phwoarr.”
That is all.
Steve
It’s one thing to say “we found this secret tape” or even “we found this old tape from back before he planned to run for President.” But the idea that after Barack Obama had already announced his Presidential run, he would go out and publicly deliver a 40-minute rant about how Whitey is so goddamn racist – well, without even watching the video, the fact that they believe something so ridiculous really says it all.
El Cid
I know people convinced that Obama’s to get his ass whooped tonight, because they know he is an empty suit who just knows stuff from the teleprompter.
What’s worse is that’s what they’ll continue to believe no matter what happens tonight.
Walker
@dmsilev:
Tap one non-white mana to activate.
presquevu
Zero sum thinking – more food for you means less to fatten up my flock of foie gras birds.
PeakVT
…don’t you see how late they’re reacting…
Violet
They’ll also discuss how slavery had its good points and how many black people were better off under slavery.
? Martin
@dmsilev:
Actually you can!
Quite the way with words they have at Hallmark, no?
Tom65
Wake up, white people!!
japa21
I have to ask myself why they make such a blatant play at this point in time. The racist vote should be safely locked away by now and time to try to attract some new voters.
Then I realized that they must think, probably supported by some internal polling, that not enough of the racist vote is locked away or, at the best, the enthusiasm is down amongst that segment. Without high turnout in that demographic, there is no chance. Well, I don’t think they have a chance anway.
The Dangerman
They are blazingly addled.
wenchacha
@? Martin: Now that would be something to see on television.
Violet
@geg6:
A lot of people are afraid of clowns.
gnomedad
What Real Americans see when they look at Romney.
What we see.
Both sides do it!
Napoleon
@? Martin:
But only if he as a 40 in one of his hands.
Hill Dweller
@El Cid:
I’ve heard that quite a bit.
On the other hand, Hannity and Carlson were talking about Obama not using a teleprompter in that speech they “uncovered” last night. As if it were the real, militant Obama, talking jive off-script to his peoples.
? Martin
@Napoleon: A White House Honey Porter 40? He should bring one out for Romney too. Actually, that would be hilarious (probably only to us, but still).
bemused
I’m aware of the unskewed poll guy but how does the skewed polls crowd explain the Fox News poll that showed Obama ahead of Mitt? Am I wrong that there were a few other well-known Republican polling groups that showed Obama ahead too?
different-church-lady
Y’know, Flav may have his problems, but he’s the best hype man in the business. Pure talent.
YellowJournalism
I think a picture of the chicken-eating black politician from Birth of a Nation would be closer to what thy think. Or maybe the guy who tries to rape the white girl.
OT Flavor Flav follows me on Twitter. I never post anything and never followed him in the first place. Does it mean I’m a slut or a skank?
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Walker: There were the Magic the Gathering cards during the Republican primary, which included the “Anyone but Romney” card, that only cost one mana but could not be played. The picture was a silhouette.
dr. bloor
@? Martin: Card-Whiz!
Short Bus Bully
Nailed it John. This post is the business.
Please repeat ad infinitum.
Also worth noting the subtle but critical difference between the types of racism we’re seeing from the wingnuts. Most of them don’t really want to join the Klan so they think they’re not racist. They are, however, White Supremacists (as explained by TNC) in the sense that they have SERIOUS fucking problems seeing their institutions run by black folks.
Period. Yeah, that’s a problem, and yeah, that’s racist.
Napoleon
@? Martin:
I could see that leaving Mitt flustered the rest of the night.
? Martin
@bemused: At the moment, all polls show Obama ahead. But that’s because conservatives are uniquely inclined to hang up on the pollsters. That’s their latest attempt at explaining this.
My mom has apparently bought into the ‘statistics have a liberal bias’ as well. It’s genuinely hard to watch.
Comrade Jake
Really the best part of all of this is watching Sean Hannity practice his Negro dialect. I think it was worth it just for that.
different-church-lady
@El Cid:
Fixed.
rlrr
@Violet:
Also the Trail of Tears was a good thing because many Cherokees found Jesus or something.
Linda Featheringill
@Violet: #26
I’m afraid of clowns. But not black clowns. I’ve never been hurt by a black man. Or a brown person. Or a gay dude. Or one of the grrrls. So I’m not afraid of them.
ETA:
It’s important to not let the white clowns know you’re afraid. They feed on your fear and grow even stronger.
Napoleon
@? Martin:
The more I think of what you said the more I hope the Onion does a peice like this. I would love to see a picture of Obama with the White House Honey Porter 40 and his homey Joe Biden at his side in a wife beater T.
Felanius Kootea
Oh Flavor Flav. Sigh.
Rathskeller
… because you’re bleck.
El Cid
@rlrr: Also, tears are nature’s way of helping moisturize the eyes and remove irritants. So really the lazy Injuns are just whining about how the white man was helping their opthalomological care.
Steve M.
No — this is what they see.
Paul in KY
@Hill Dweller: It was incompetance designed to reduce numbers of people in NO (the Democratic hotbed in LA).
If most all of those people happened to be black, well…
jharp
Very funny. You really made me laugh.
Ash Can
For a minute there, I wondered if Romney and/or his advisors might be dumb enough to try to ding the prez with this video during the debate tonight. Upon further review, though, I doubt we’ll be that lucky. It’s far more likely that they’re just sticking Carlson out there to gauge the overall public reaction to these tired-ass resurrected talking points before they do anything with them themselves. And it’s probably even more likely that they recognize a useful idiot when they see one, and have grabbed Carlson and thrown him under the bus so that Romney can say tonight, “I don’t agree with what Tucker said; I’m far more enlightened than that.”
bemused
@? Martin:
Novel explanations they come up with although I suspect liberal seniors enjoy messing with obvious Republican poll calls, if a real person instead of automated poll, than hanging up.
Other than the Fox News poll, I’d like to know the names of some other Republican leaning polls that also showed Obama ahead. I’d like to run that info by a Republican and see if he still insists there was skewing going on.
Suffern ACE
@japa21: Nope. I am guessing taht they hope that were we to engage in heated race discussions for any duration of time, those uncomfortable leaners who happen to be white tend to migrate quitely back into the R column. Like they did, say, when the discussion was about that ground zero mosque. They don’t care whether what they say is true as long as the discussion goes “Blackity black” “RACIST!” “Blackety Black” “RACIST!” at 11 for the next few weeks. Having liberals yell nothing but “RACIST” on TV shows instead of discussing medicare vouchers probably helps Rs quite a bit.
WWStBreitbartD
However despite the progressive narrative/Obama talking point, the full unedited video of the speech was not shown until yesterday.
Violet
@Steve M.: I agree. Flav is too comical to be threatening. They’re not just angry about black folks in positions of power–they’re scared. So they see scary, angry black folks.
Citizen_X
Tucker Carlson? Muthafuck him and John Wayne!
Forum Transmitted Disease
@japa21: I read the hardcores: Stormfront, Chimpout. Occasionally troll if I have access to a good proxy.
I’m betting about half that demographic can’t vote because they’re convicted felons. The rest were all about Ron Paul (that should tell you something). Romney’s just another tool of the ZOG and most of them are going to sit this one out.
Stop me if you’ve heard this idea before: some of them think that four more years of the black guy in the White Man’s House will be so destructive to America that whites will rise in revolt and usher in a new era of race-based, conservative paradise. Where have I heard that idea before? Something about some guy named Ralph.
NickM
As media assassin Harry Allen would say, “Don’t believe the hype.”
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@bemused:
This may explain the blatant race baiting. Imagine just for a moment what it must be like to get all your “news” from Fox News in which Obama is history’s greatest monster and yet even they are reporting that Obama is ahead in the polls. ZOMG WAKE UP WHITE SHEEPLE! YUR BEEENG FLEECED!
I wonder how many wingnut heads are going to explode when Rasmussen makes their oh-so-predictable sharp left turn back to polling reality just weeks before the election in order to cover their previous ratfucking, and it looks on paper like a +8 swing to Obama in the waning days of the election. We’d better start building an ark because the flood of butthurt tears is going to swamp the levees.
lamh35
Speaking of the Obamas, Happy 20th Wedding Anniversary to the twos of ’em.
Napoleon
@WWStBreitbartD:
Its been on YouTube for the last 5 years (the full version).
Plus it was a public event and many members of the press heard exactly what was said.
rb
So “What Tucker Carlson and his lunatic cohorts see” was at the bottom of my browser window, and as I went to scroll up I’m thinking “uh-oh. What offensive image did Cole go ahead and decide to post?”
So, Flavor Flav was a relief.
schrodinger's cat
@gnomedad: Why are all of the Romneybotlets wearing identical clothes?
Ash Can
And PS, I think that more than a few of these OMGBLACKITYBLACK idiots realize, deep down on some subliminal level, that the current first family is the most glamorous, most photogenic, and most wholesome first family we’ve ever had, and it’s killing them.
Napoleon
Oh, and PS, transcripts have been available the whole time.
El Cid
Don’t they see this too?
Cargo
My new Wingnut Filter allows everyone to see the world as wingnuts do.
Here’s every Obama speech ever! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2kJ96jNY
WWStBreitbartD
@Napoleon:
Link? The full 40 minutes.
You spelled palace guard wrong.
Tucker Carlson: CNN told me today they had Obama’s entire ‘race speech’ video five years ago
Southern Beale
Wow I’m just shocked that CNN is actually admitting there’s this thing called “the conservative media.”
Forum Transmitted Disease
@geg6: I left a restaurant in the middle of a family reunion dinner because there was a clown in the place, doing his fucking balloon animals. He came up to our table. He’s lucky I didn’t kick his fucking head in, he had me backed against the booth and I’m both clownphobic and claustrophobic. I shoved his disgusting ass out of the way on my way out the door. I did not return.
I am seriously scared of clowns. Laugh all you want. It’s a real problem for me.
lamh35
OT, but people like to talk shit about VP Biden, but the man is awesome and stuff like this is why people love him and Dr Jill as much as they love the Obamas:
“Keep The Faith”
The picture accompanying the blog post is emotional..either that or I’m just a sap…lol
mai name
You are wrong. They don’t see Flava Flav. They see Malcolm X complete with his musliminess and his black power salute and his wanting to help black people and, yeah, the black panthers too. And certain other stuff that happened to Malcolm X too, if you get my drift here.
Felanius Kootea
@Ash Can: They got so much trouble on their minds they refuse to lose.
As for now I know how to avoid the paranoid; man I’ve had it up to here.
Tucker Carlson my home is your home? Well, welcome to the terrordome.
Violet
@schrodinger’s cat:
I think it’s what Republican families do. Remember the Huckabees? http://wonkette.com/332736/mike-huckabees-aids-less-family-says-hi
Also, wanted to say, that I had a Dell laptop that had a problem with the display–lines on it. It was fixable by unplugging, taking out battery, then draining the power (holding power button to drain reserve) and then taking off the cover just above the keyboard, below the display, unplugging the cable that connects the display, and re-connecting it. Put power stuff back together, turn on, worked fine.
This was a known problem with my old laptop. If you google the model number/name of your laptop, you might find some info like that.
Greg
@WWStBreitbartD:
The full unedited contents were up on Youtube for the last 5 years, as was a complete transcript on Andrew Sullivan’s site.
Now pull my other leg.
FlipYrWhig
@WWStBreitbartD: You mean news channels have long videos they then cut down into shorter ones and play in sections? Why were we not informed earlier about this terrifying media scandal?
rb
@Citizen_X: Nice.
Hill Dweller
@Paul in KY: I didn’t say it wasn’t racism. And I suspect Obama thinks it was racism, but he didn’t accuse Bush of racism in that speech. Obama knows the game.
g
@WWStBreitbartD:
Not seen by the public. Presumably, the media had the full unedited video, including Tucker’s own producer, and chose to show what they thought was newsworthy. And that’s still the case – the “unedited” parts are not newsworthy – what’s newsworthy is the desparation and attempts to race bait on the right.
mai name
@schrodinger’s cat: Because to the Romneylings its like they’re going to visit a scary foreign country so they dress alike so they can spot each other in the crowd.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@Napoleon:
Savor for a moment the delicious irony of a campaign and a political movement which the last few years have been based entirely on nothing but heavily edited and highly misleading videos and wildly taken-out-of-context quotes, now in their last desperate hours reduced to screaming at the top of their lungs “ZOMG THE FULL, UN-CUT VERSION! AT LAST THANK GOD!” and the reaction they get is that everybody laughs at them.
Brachiator
Not just the wingnuts, but supposedly serious conservatives such as Bowtie Buffoon George Will seem especially hung up on the idea that Obama was not sufficiently vetted by Gramps McCain, and that those strapping white bucks Romney and Ryan, with their smooth Real White Man Ways(tm) will preen and smile for the voters and cause them to swoon back into their ersatz Anglo Saxon arms again.
The wingnut event horizon is these pathetic fools pretty much shouting that the country must have a white man in the White House.
Shawn in ShowMe
@YellowJournalism:
Nah, he must think you know where the white women at.
Surly Duff
I disagree, and would argue that the truth is much more cynical and pathetic. I would argue that Tucker Carlson and much his media cohorts don’t see a scary black man, they just know that is what a specific subset of the population, their target audience, see Obama that way and so Tucker, Hannity, etc continually push tropes that will cater and reinforce that belief.
Bridgier
@Walker: gives protection from white creatures.
bemused
@lamh35:
That was lovely and something you just expect Biden, or Obama, to do. I couldn’t imagine Mitt doing the same. If he did meet the boy, he’d tell him to keep the faith that he could pull himself up by his own damn bootstraps without any enabling gov’t policy.
WaynersT
Tell me about it. I get the wrong emails addressed to this guy Harry all the time. He bought a car recently, was invited to a BBQ. Stuff like that. I always tell them they have the wrong email address, but they keep coming. Today I got this:
“Harry, Looking forward to seeing you and talking politics. I’m convinced more than ever that Obama is a Muslim and will destroy this nation if elected again. He will continue with HIS agenda. Thanks for letting me stay at your home. Mary Lynn ”
I looked her up on facebook.
Nicest looking little old lady you could ever imagine. So I’m signing them up on every Obama website I can find.
schrodinger's cat
@mai name They do look like they are residents of some other planet, playing humans for a while.
Napoleon
@ThatLeftTurnInABQ:
I hadn’t thought of it that way, but your right.
bemused
@WaynersT:
Hilarious idea! Poor Harry is going to get a lot of shit from those folks thinking he turned into an Obot.
Forum Transmitted Disease
@ThatLeftTurnInABQ: We all have that friend, the one who leads off descriptions of minor traffic incidents with the words “I ALMOST DIED!” They tend not to stay my friends for long at all. I get enough of that shit from my aging mother.
So with the GOP. It was attention grabbing for a month, predictable for a year, and now has become such a joke that when I hear “Obama’s speech on (wingnut imaginary crime de jour) FULL AND UNCUT” all I can do is just laugh, because it will be such a nothingburger that it will make the person posting it look really bad.
NonyNony
@dmsilev:
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Violet
@schrodinger’s cat: I replied to you above about your laptop question. Just in case you didn’t see it. I had a similar issue with one of mine, also a Dell.
ranchandsyrup
I play the bass like the race card.
I’m on the case to break shards and leave your face scarred.
kay
Maureen Does wrote about the speech in 2008. She liked it.
She used it to attack Obama for weakness in the debates with Hillary, in comparison to this speech his debate performance was weak, blah, blah.
So we’ve really come full circle on this speech. Here we are at debates again.
Maybe Dowd can use it again, just replace Clinton with Romney.
Steve
I cannot believe they’ve even lost Ann Althouse. Comments are so delightfully clueless too.
fuckwit
ni-clang!
schrodinger's cat
@Violet: Thanks I will try that.
? Martin
@bemused: Rasmussen shows Obama +2. Gallup which tracks pretty close to Ras shows Obama +4.
Cris (without an H)
Farrakhan’s a prophet and I think you ought to listen to what he can say to you.
JPL
Tucker and Drudge’s antic was good news for
Joe Biden.
bemused
@? Martin:
Thanks. Now I will go have some fun. Not that it will change the Republican guy’s mind but I’m curious to hear what inventive reason he comes up with.
Anoniminous
Don’t forget under the harsh Jim Crow laws white people were forced to use White Only public drinking fountains, restaurants, public bathrooms, and – even – White Only public swimming pools! The psychological damage this caused will take several generations to abate. So it’s understandable White People are afraid of a blackety-black president.
NonyNony
@Napoleon:
But you don’t understand! Those transcripts were edited and they removed the offensive bits!
Or maybe it isn’t that they were edited, Obama just went off script (probably because he didn’t have a Teleprompter there to tell him what to say you know).
Whatever. The important thing is that the tape clearly shows that Obama is telling black people to “get Whitey”. It’s completely obvious. Can’t you understand the code?
NRO has the most controversial bits of that speech laid out in very clear black and white. And every one of them is “get Whitey”. I mean Obama actually says THIS controversial nugget:
It’s completely outrageous! How dare he call for a race riot in such a blatant and obvious fashion!
Maude
@Forum Transmitted Disease:
You aren’t alone. There are a good number of people who are afraid of clowns. I don’t like them at all.
Kids can get hysterical around them.
Stephen King, IT.
That clown is very scary.
Maude
@Violet:
Good for you. I will keep that one in mind.
Shawn in ShowMe
@mai name:
U’m surprised they don’t make Malcolm X comparison more often, given the wingnut tendency to invoke fellow 60s icon Saul Alinsky. The Nation of Islam’s headquarters are in Chicago, for Pete’s sake. These guys just aren’t up to the job.
schrodinger's cat
@Maude: Me three. I used to hide under the chair as a child, when clowns came out at the circus. Do not want.
ranchandsyrup
@Steve: I tried to get out of the boat using your link but I found out that my work filter blocks Franziapundit. Which I find to be awesome.
Culture of Truth
So how exactly does this work? How do I get “seize on” an old event to get Jake Tapper to write it up as breaking news? Does he just get an instruction memo saying “cover this” and he dutifully types it up, or is there more to it? Do I send out a media bat-signal or something?
WWStBreitbartD
@Greg:
Links
Odd, I can not find this quote in the “complete transcript on Andrew Sullivan’s site.”
? Martin
@Napoleon:
Yeah, but you can’t feel the blackness coming through the transcripts.
Bubblegum Tate
Slight correction, John: They don’t see Flavor Flav, they see Dead Mike.
mclaren
You always knew it was going to come down to this. As we get closer and closer to election day, the conservatives will get closer and closer to screaming “N***ER N***ER N***ER!”
Culture of Truth
They need to shore up the base. After that 47% remark, Obama well be leading among racists too.
LanceThruster
Thank goodness there’s Beldar Kolobhead to save us from the Kenyan Muslim Socialist Usurper!
I can’t wait for OvenBeldar to respond with a scathing “Mepps- Mepps!” in tonight’s debate if Barack Obama does not maintain low tones.
Napoleon
@Culture of Truth:
Especially since Tapper reported on it originally. What a tool.
Linda Featheringill
@lamh35:
Keep the faith:
I understand why some right wingers think that we Obots worship a Messiah. But they’re mistaken. We know the whole Obama team is made up of mere mortals. But so many people have had to go so long with so little hope and now the hope that things might get better has sprung to life.
And that kind of hope causes changes to happen.
And yeah. Uncle Joe is a nice person.
Steve
@ranchandsyrup: Your company has good taste. You know, as offensive as many of Althouse’s views are, I sort of appreciate the fact that she’s sort of eclectic in a Sullivanesque way. I mean, I like people who agree with me on everything, but there’s a certain inherent value in unpredictability.
Chyron HR
@WWStBreitbartD:
Oh god no they waived the Stafford Act! And provided relief after Hurricane Andrew! And Obama said it was a GOOD THING!
Here’s a hint about W St. Breitbart would have D: Not act like a sniveling weenie.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodinger’s cat: Clowns are seriously creepy.
Culture of Truth
As opposed to SOMEONE ELSE’S ?
ranchandsyrup
@Steve: “eclectic in a sullivanesque way” is the new “drunk”. Just kidding, Steve. She and her commentariat make my head explode, just as I’m sure that my libtard stylings would make her and her commentariat’s heads explode. Agreed re: the value of unpredictability.
Shawn in ShowMe
@Culture of Truth:
If it was good enough for Clarence, Colin and Condi, it should be good enough for him.
burnspbesq
Fuck. This is not good. The Turks finally had enough of Syria lobbing ordnance across the border, and started firing back.
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/03/14200329-turkey-strikes-targets-in-syria-after-mortar-attack-kills-5?lite
RyMaN600
What we see.
What they see.
Omnes Omnibus
@Culture of Truth: Put that agenda down! You don’t know where it’s been.
SFAW
What’s this “St Breitbart” thing? Did something happen to Andy? Hmm, maybe that explains why I haven’t heard anything from him in the last 7 months or so. He hasn’t returned my calls, either.
Chad
President Flav would make sure 911 isn’t a joke in my town.
Lolis
@schrodinger’s cat:
It’s a Mormon thing. They all dress similar for their group photos and there are usually so many people who look really similar it can be very confusing. We get them in the mail all the time from our Mormon relatives.
AA+ Bonds
It’s true: when I look at Barack Obama I see someone living in so much privilege that if I ever could have related to him, I can’t anymore
? Martin
NBC/WSJ shows Obama with a 50 point lead among Latinos. Fifty.
Latinos have not been so strongly wedded to Democrats. A decade ago Dems held a 20 point party identification advantage. If this gap translates to voter identification and that identification proves stubborn to shake loose (as the GOP chases white voters, they increasingly do so by wedging Latinos into the Dem camp) then the GOP is simply done as a party. They can’t survive with Dems having an 80 point advantage with blacks, a 50 point advantage with Latinos, and an 18 point advantage with women.
Attacking Warren on her ethnic background and going after Obama’s blackness is only making matters worse.
schrodinger's cat
@Lolis: I don’t get the blue shirt with the white crew neck undershirt showing look at all. I have seen Paul Ryan sport a similar look. Not flattering.
psychobroad
@lamh35: That was awesome–thanks for posting the link!
burnspbesq
@AA+ Bonds:
AA+ Bonds: consistently missing the point since 2009.
J.D. Rhoades
I am so turning those pictures into a meme.
Maude
@burnspbesq:
Turkey has been involved at they border with Syria for a time. NATO made a statement.
Remember the Turkish fighter jets?
They can’t ignore the spill over from Syria.
Assad doesn’t want any other country to be involved. It will probably calm down on that border.
I wish Assad would drop dead.
jeremy
@mai name: The funny thing is that Obama is so far from Malcolm X. The guy is no radical. The guy talks up his religion (christianity(, going to church, drinking beer, eating pork, inviting pastors to the whitehouse. Those things are so far from Islam, but you have idiots on the right who believe Obama is a radical black christian who attended Wright’s church and a secret muslim. Which makes no sense
Tractarian
@burnspbesq:
Peace is always preferable to war.
That said, why does this event deserve special hand-wringing? It’s not like NATO is invading Syria. Although NATO could do that on the basis of the killing of Turkish civilians.
Forum Transmitted Disease
@SFAW: He choked to death on a burlap bag of dicks. Be careful what you wish for, I guess.
NR
If you’re going to make dated pop culture references, at least get them right. Chuck D was angry. Flavor Flav was just silly.
? Martin
@burnspbesq: Relax. Romney is planning on giving Turkey a tax cut, which will solve the whole problem.
Agreed it’s a bad development. Let’s see if it’s anything more than a ‘hey, assholes, there are people over here’ reaction. Can’t say I much blame Turkey for losing their patience here. In other parts of the world, Iran appears on track for full economic meltdown. Rial has dropped 80% now in a week and a half. Prepare for the food riots. I don’t think they’re going to be able to contain this one…
Culture of Truth
Because Obama has lost control of the middle east!
Mnemosyne
@bemused:
My lifelong Republican dad is still telling pollsters that he’s planning to vote for “Dr. Ron Paul.”
Interesting thing is, I’m not totally sure he’s joking.
aimai
@geg6:
My daughters are the same ages, more or less exactly. I am embarrassed to say I tear up thinking about how much growing up all four girls have done in the same four year period. I have that picture on my refrigerator.
aimai
? Martin
@Tractarian:
Civil wars are contained. Regional wars are not. Stuff like this has an occasional habit of getting bigger as other allies (like Iran) decide it’s time to jump in to balance things out.
SFAW
@Forum Transmitted Disease:
Were those the ones he appropriated so that DFHs would stop raping people? It sounds like he didn’t behave himself.
Amir Khalid
@lamh35:
That’s another interesting difference between Obama/Biden and Romney/Ryan — there’s an emotional bond between the public and the former two, a stronger one than you normally see between the public and any president/VP pair. And going up against that is a pair of men who don’t show much empathy with each other, much less the wider public.
Maude
@? Martin:
Syria has already done the I’m sorry, condolences and they will find out where that shell came from.
BobS
I know it would never happen, but it would be interesting to see Carlson & Ta-Nahisi Coates on Chris Hayes’ show. I don’t think Carlson is particularly proud of the village idiot character he plays and I’d like to see how he’d conduct himself on the mostly ‘no bullshit tolerated’ panel Hayes moderates, particularly sitting next to Coates, a public intellectual like Carlson probably dreamed of being at one time.
SFAW
@Tractarian:
It would be nice if “always” were true, but I don’t think it is.
Joel
@Bubblegum Tate: Either him or Tone Def.
Steve
@burnspbesq: Not sure this is a bad thing.
bemused
@Mnemosyne:
Ha. Your dad sounds like he enjoys keeping people guessing.
? Martin
@aimai: My kids are as well. They’re each 5 months older than each of the Obama girls. At the end of Obama’s 2nd term, our oldest will all be in college and our youngest preparing to drive.
I had them write letters when Obama was elected. They wrote again a while back to ask the girls if they wanted to play Minecraft with them. I should have them write again after the election.
Mnemosyne
@WWStBreitbartD:
Conservatives: “9/11 victims should have fended for themselves!”
Brachiator
@Amir Khalid:
Great observation. Romney and Ryan sometimes look as though they are surprised to find themselves at the same campaign stop.
And I think Rachel Maddow and others have suggested that Ryan appears to be trying to distance himself from Romney in order to salvage his own political career.
@Tractarian:
Too often, “peace” is some authoritarian kicking the crap out of somebody while the world turns its head and pretends that peace is being maintained.
Catsy
Oh look, the paid Breitbartian trolls aren’t even hiding their affiliation anymore.
Make it easier to ignore them, people.
Culture of Truth
@BobS: I tend to think Carlson has become the asshole he was always destined to be.
different-church-lady
@NR: Good point*. Although Chuck’s anger was more righteous and dogged, than scary/threatening. We need to be thinking gangsta here.
*(I am only saying this so that I can be on the record for having agreed with you about one thing somewhere along the line.)
Crow73
@JPL: This snark is bad. More funny less stupid next time.
BobS
@Culture of Truth: He’s a born and bred asshole, for sure. But I think the bow tie thing signaled his aspiration to be the next George Will (who for some reason has a reputation as a deep thinker) or, in his wettest dreams, William Buckley.
Linda Featheringill
@Amir Khalid:
Yes. Obama/Biden are viewed with affection by lots of different people.
Both are very empathetic. I don’t remember seeing a Prez/VP that people would bring their grief to. People bring their tears to these two and they are comforted.
J.D. Rhoades
@schrodinger’s cat:
There’s actually a name for this: Coulrophobia.
jenn
@lamh35: If you’re a sap, I am too (as I surreptitiously wipe tears out of my eyes). Thanks for sharing!
burnspbesq
@Culture of Truth:
I assume that Obama has already talked to Erdogan and Fogh-Rasmussen, so if Romney tries to make something of this tonight, Obama’s response will start with “I’ve spoken to Prime Minister Erdogan and NATO Secretary-General Foghorn-Rasmussen. Chill. We got this.”
Arm The Homeless
@Forum Transmitted Disease: Do you salt them before you put them in the bag, or after?
burnspbesq
@Arm The Homeless:
You put the salt in the bag first, add the dicks, seal the bag, and shake vigorously.
At least that’s what I’m told. Diabetics aren’t allowed to eat dicks.
taylormattd
@different-church-lady: I agree. Seriously, the Flavor of Love crap with the guest appearances by Brigette Neilson (or however you spell that tall, crazy, blonde’s name) was pure genius.
different-church-lady
@taylormattd: Well I was talking solely about his rap and stage talents.
I think I’ve seen maybe 34 seconds of Flavor of Love, and it was with the sound down.
? Martin
@J.D. Rhoades: My daughter is afraid of anyone in a full body costume. She did not like Disneyland. Not sure where it came from – she seemed afraid of them from the get-go.
Guessing that she won’t find a place for herself among the furry community.
Arm The Homeless
@burnspbesq: Through the miracle of science, you too can have sugar-free, low fat dicks.
different-church-lady
@different-church-lady: In fact, I think I had that show in the back of my mind when I said he had his problems.
? Martin
@burnspbesq: Let’s hope he doesn’t call him Foghorn Rasmussen, though…
Schlemizel
Well, they do all look alike you know.
I can’t believe I can be the first with that old POS 170+ comments in!
Grumpy Code Monkey
@Violet:
Shit, they do that now…
The Moar You Know
@BobS: As I posted a few threads ago, I know Tucker, albeit as well as you can know anyone who you’re about to do violence to.
He reveled in being an annoying prick when he was a teenager and I’ve seen no change whatsoever now that he’s an adult. He’s not playing a character, is what I’m trying to say. What you see on the screen is what you get in real life.
Omnes Omnibus
@The Moar You Know:
Doesn’t mean he is proud of it. Of course, he seems as though he is, so maybe, nevermind.
PeterJ
EXPLAIN THIS:
If there ever was a reason to impeach!
Obama has been president for over 10 years! He invaded Iraq, not Bush! He most likely was president during 9/11!
You have all been drugged to believe that Bush was president between 2001 and 2009. HE NEVER WAS!
(Check the image properties. ;) )
Omnes Omnibus
@PeterJ: Time travel.
redshirt
I’ve done a bit of “research” on this fear of clown thing. Check it here.
I think John Wayne Gacy is ultimately to blame for this modern neurosis.
BobS
@The Moar You Know: I get the annoying prick part. I just don’t believe that he ever envisioned himself having to embrace the stupidity his position requires. Maybe he’s happy playing a clown, but I think he thought he was going to grow up to be one of the leading thinkers of his tribe (which I suppose he is given the obvious limitations of his tribe).
That’s why I’d like to see him getting humiliated at a table with some serious thinkers and a no-bullshit moderator.
PurpleGirl
@PeterJ: I hope you’re snarking because when I asked for image properties I got the name as (paraphrased) Official Obama family portrait, Dec. 2011.
Maybe your sources made a typo.
burnspbesq
@? Martin:
Hence my comment on the big meta thread about innocuous comments becoming causus belli due to auto-correct.
As long as he doesn’t call him Foghorn Leghorn, I think it’ll be OK.
PeterJ
@PurpleGirl:
I’m looking at the EXIF information, the description says 2001.
I’m emailing Darrell Issa right now!
Now the File change date and time says “2011:12:13 14:03:47”, but obviously they failed to change that one.
;)
presquevu
Gotta watch for the ED pharmactives and artificial sweeteners in the bag of R-dicks.
WWStBreitbartD
@Chyron HR:
Even when he voted against it.
Where’s your dollar? Sen. Obama voted against Stafford waiver for New Orleans two weeks before speech