Hello Blackness My Old Friend, George Has Come to Talk About You Again

George Will thinks that firing blackety-black-black President Obama will prove once and for all that we live in post-racial America.  Also, too, baseball:

Managers get fired all the time. The fact that the Indians felt free to fire Robinson — who went on to have a distinguished career managing four other teams — showed that another racial barrier had fallen: Henceforth, African Americans, too, could enjoy the God-given right to be scapegoats for impatient team owners or incompetent team executives.

Perhaps a pleasant paradox defines this political season: That Obama is African American may be important, but in a way quite unlike that darkly suggested by, for example, MSNBC’s excitable boys and girls who, with their (at most) one-track minds and exquisitely sensitive olfactory receptors, sniff racism in any criticism of their pin-up. Instead, the nation, which is generally reluctant to declare a president a failure — thereby admitting that it made a mistake in choosing him — seems especially reluctant not to give up on the first African American president. If so, the 2012 election speaks well of the nation’s heart, if not its head.

Today I learned that voting for Obama is the political equivalent of a mercy fuck.

(via Quincy in the comments)






170 replies
  1. 1
    shortstop says:

    Every time I think they’ve reached the acme of the apex of not getting it on race, they push that ceiling a little higher.

  2. 2
    Kadzimiel says:

    George Will might as well go all the way and start sending out chain emails featuring the president dressed as a witch-doctor accompanied by sneering racist Republican upchuck du jour.

  3. 3
    Culture of Truth says:

    George Will, as usual, of course, pinpoints the problem precisely – America’s long and agonzied history of giving black people every possible break and advantage, which reflects the nation’s endlessly generous and compassionate heart; but is, as he says, not to put to fine a point on it, stupid.

  4. 4
    1badbaba3 says:

    I think a better way to prove post-racial America is for Will and his ilk to kiss my black ass.

    Much more satisfying too.

  5. 5
    Culture of Truth says:

    He’s right about one thing – MSNBC sees racism everywhere! Also, anyone voting for Obama is a racist.

  6. 6
    Ash Can says:

    Could George Will possibly be any more of a parody of himself? …Never mind, don’t answer that.

  7. 7
    SenyorDave says:

    @1badbaba3: Ditto, except he and his ilk will have to kiss my white (well, its really more beige) ass.

  8. 8
    gogol's wife says:

    Disgusting, disgusting, disgusting. “Pin-up”? I can sense he had a hard time not adding “boy.”

  9. 9
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    Another piece of shit who needs a tumbrel ride.

  10. 10
    AxelFoley says:

    That Obama is African American may be important, but in a way quite unlike that darkly suggested by

    Oh, George, I see what you did there.

  11. 11
    Comrade Jake says:

    A recent conversation I had with a colleague:

    Colleague: “George Will is a smart commentator.”

    Me: “He doesn’t believe in climate change.”

    Colleague: “What? No…”

    Me: “Yes.”

    Colleague: “OK then. I take back what I said.”

    Spread the word. George Will is an idiot. The more people know, the better.

  12. 12
    rumpole says:

    The Thinking Man’s Racist (TM).

  13. 13
    amk says:

    the nation, which is generally reluctant to declare a president a failure — thereby admitting that it made a mistake in choosing him

    will must be talking about dubya + dubya.

  14. 14

    They really cannot imagine a world in which people actually disagree with them for substantive reasons. Republican projection again, if you ask me — the Republican Party today is practically defined by its lack of substantive reasons for anything it does other than “rich people want this and liberals don’t.”

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    handy says:

    Instead, the nation, which is generally reluctant to declare a president a failure — thereby admitting that it made a mistake in choosing him — seems especially reluctant not to give up on the first African American president.

    Reluctant not to give up on? How does that work?

  16. 16
    The Moar You Know says:

    I’m not “firing” Obama because he’s been sandbagged since day one of his presidency by a bunch of racist cracker assholes.

    George Will and his bowtie can go fuck themselves.

  17. 17
    biff diggerence says:

    Watch Georgie the Fop cheer when the Confederate Papists on the USSC get the next case arguing for reinstatement of the Reserve Clause.

  18. 18
    Quincy says:

    Thanks for giving it a thread. Obviously Will isn’t usually worth wasting time on, but this piece bothered me so much that I wouldn’t fee right about the world without seeing it properly ridiculed.

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    General Stuck says:

    It has finally dawned on me why the republican base is so adamant that Obama is an abject failure, which is nothing more than twisted projection that says,

    “he beat us coming and going”

    “stimulus, with r and d cash for alternative fuels”

    “Health Care Reform (they had successfully blocked for 100 years”

    “passed DADT repeal, ushering in new era of voter tolerance for gay marriage, and gay rights in general”

    “11 dimensional chess leading wingnuts to club their own golden military industrial complex goose with large mandatory cut”

    “and a bunch of other day to day shit”

    Obama failed to burp wingnut baby jeevus, and all hell broke loose.

    But Will has a pint. We could be post racial in the alternate universe the nutters are moving to in a fleet of rented u hauls. This poll proves it.

    Tally ho!!

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    That Obama is African American may be important, but in a way quite unlike that darkly suggested by, for example, MSNBC’s excitable boys and girls who, with their (at most) one-track minds and exquisitely sensitive olfactory receptors, sniff racism in any criticism of their pin-up.

    1. Good luck diagramming that sentence.

    2. That… that’s not a Warren Zevon reference somewhere a third of the way through that trainwreck sentence, is it? That would really bother me, not least ’cause I’ve used a Warren Zevon song about a Sox pitcher, “Bill Lee”, for post titles at least two or three times.

    3. Along with his pompousness and general sneering dismissal of anyone not like him, he’s frustrating to read because he can’t even make up his mind as to why he hates the president so much. A little bit ago Pres. Obama was “a floundering naif” or a “real radical”.

  21. 21

    @Comrade Jake:

    Spread the word. George Will is an idiot. The more people know, the better.

    Indeed. A few years back, I blogged about the WaPo opinion pages, which forced me to actually read all the columnists for a season.

    George Will won the prize for dumbest regular columnist, and it wasn’t even close. Which was a challenge, given the presence of Krauthammer, Richard Cohen, and Robert J. Samuelson on those pages.

    How he got the reputation as an Intellectual Conservative is beyond me. Maybe the same way Paul Ryan got a reputation as a deficit hawk and budget wonk.

  22. 22
    piratedan says:

    yeah George, exactly what this country needs is a vulture capitalist running things, he’s got lots of shareholders and partners to satisfy and look at those pension plans that can be looted!

  23. 23
    SatanicPanic says:

    Before the arrival of Glen Beck, George Will was the smarmy pundit I most wanted to punch in the face.

  24. 24
    Schlemizel says:

    I hate to be picky – NO, really! I do! I get what your trying to do but the line is “Hello darkness my old friend”

    I know, I have an intimate relationship with darkness but not with blackness.

  25. 25
    Cacti says:

    @Comrade Jake:

    Colleague: “George Will is a smart commentator.”

    George Will proves that if you wear glasses and a bowtie, people will assume that you’re smart.

  26. 26
    hep kitty says:

    How much longer must we have to endure these doddering old farts?

  27. 27
    jwb says:

    @General Stuck: “Will has a pint.” By election day, he’ll be drinking several pints a day.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @amk:

    Prezactly. That’s who he had to have been thinking of.

    I take back the tumbrel. It would be far more appropriate for Will to be dealt with in the manner of the DeNiro portrayed Al Capone.

  29. 29
    Betsy says:

    Gad, what a fucking idiot.

  30. 30
    Suffern ACE says:

    @Comrade Jake: You should have added “and he’s always been this way.” really. He has been.

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    hueyplong says:

    Will is just one of many from his generation who thinks the White Man discharged any and all responsibilities and/or guilt regarding race once he decided it was OK for ni-clangs to play professional sports, and who decided they were hopelessly uppity and filled with a sense of entitlement when one of them challenged the reserve clause and Fked Up Sports For Good.

    Impatience is getting the best of my sure and certain hope that twenty years from now they’ll all be dead or quietly eating Jello in non-public forums. Twenty years from now it could all be FUBAR and unsalvageable.

  32. 32
    BGinCHI says:

    Shorter Will:

    People who understand how racism works are racists, especially your browns.

  33. 33
    Schlemizel says:

    @reflectionephemeral:

    Well, to be honest Will has always given me an “excitable boy” vibe. I’d have the cadaver sniffing dogs working his property if I could and I believe they would turn up evidence of what that plastic exterior is hiding

  34. 34
    shortstop says:

    @Comrade Jake: I would say that conversation went pretty well. I was expecting your colleague to join in hotly denying climate change.

  35. 35
    MattF says:

    @General Stuck: Wingers just… have a problem with Obama. He’s just obviously… something. But they can’t quite… put their finger on it. And it can’t be…

  36. 36
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @reflectionephemeral:

    A little bit ago Pres. Obama was “a floundering naif” or a “real radical”.

    Well, it’s the general wingnut cognitive disaster of that Obambi guy…he’s simultaneously a stupid ni*CLANG* who needs a teleprompter to read the morning paper, but also he’s this incredibly cunning and subtle guy who has this surefire plan to confiscate all your precious bullet firing dildos in collaboration with the Plan 21 stormtroopers of the UN.

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    Quarks says:

    Yes, Will, because firing the black guy and replacing him with an out of touch gaffe prone business executive who has so far demonstrated that he can’t run a presidential campaign, much less a country, will really get that post-racial message across to everyone.

  38. 38
    shortstop says:

    @Schlemizel: At least three stiffs could be hidden under that horrifically bad toupee.

  39. 39
    Ash Can says:

    @reflectionephemeral:

    he can’t even make up his mind as to why he hates the president so much.

    I think he knows damn well why he hates the president, but he also knows he has to tap-dance around it, because if he came right out and said it, it would be a bridge too far, and his sweet gig of being paid well for being stupid goes out the window.

  40. 40
    pk says:

    What I want to know is how do I get a job which allows me to be so clueless about everything all the time? So AAs vote for Obama because he’s black (forgetting that they have been voting reliably democratic forever). What about women, or latinos, or other non-whites. Why do white men always vote republican? What’s up with that? If poor or middle class whites vote for a white guy against their own interests it’s not racism, but if blacks and other non whites vote for a black guy because it is in their own interest, it’s racism. You know what’s racism? Newspaper columns and TV screens full of old white men spewing garbage forever. When will we be rid of these foul old men?

  41. 41
    NotMax says:

    Where to begin?

    The piece is like the balloon-popping booth at a carnival, colorfully displaying so many inviting and easily deflated targets.

    Suffice to say that any columnist of prominence (albeit faded and diminished prominence – see just about anything Will has written on global warming) who promotes – even obliquely – that McCain/Palin represent the better choice for America to have elected automatically discredits every single word preceding and following such egregious flim-flammery.

  42. 42
    General Stuck says:

    And more clear evidence Obama is tanking in a coming landslide for Mitt Romney, dispatched from across the great divide.

    Romney would let illegal immigrants keep deportation waivers

    That ain’t no flip flop. It is a triple axle with a nailed landing, if you’re a drunk ballerina.

    And more commie tampered polling. This one from teahadistan, USA.

    Poll shows Obama with 15-point lead in NH

    Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/polit.....z289PJj9Oi

  43. 43
    BGinCHI says:

    This is exactly the kind of column one writes when one does not have a candidate to praise or support.

    Every minute spent talking about “firing Obama” is a minute he doesn’t have to spend eating a Romney shit sandwich with extra Ryan sauce.

  44. 44
    aimai says:

    Oh my god its the soft bigotry of low expectations again! I would love to see someone write the column that is begging to be written:

    Mitt Romney! You’re fired! We will finally know we are in a truly post 1% world when even a rich guy can be told, in no uncertain terms, that he can’t buy the presidency.

    aimai

  45. 45
    PeakVT says:

    @hep kitty: Punditing, good or bad, is pretty easy on the body, so the answer is a lot longer than we want.

    And since the only people that healthy, well-off old fart pundits know is other healthy, well-off old fart pundits, they don’t understand that raising the retirement age for everybody is a bad idea. This guy does, though.

  46. 46
    shortstop says:

    Well, let’s remember that he’s not writing for us or any other normal humans. And it doesn’t even matter if he believes what he says. The point of this column is to provide further cover to racists who need to believe they’re not racists. He’s giving permission to bigots to feel racially righteous about not voting for the guy they were never going to vote for.

    I sure get tired of the supposedly rugged Republicans who can’t own their assholery, but need to be validated for it at every turn. Bunch of candyasses.

  47. 47

    @low-tech cyclist:

    How he got the reputation as an Intellectual Conservative is beyond me. Maybe the same way Paul Ryan got a reputation as a deficit hawk and budget wonk.

    Well, I wasn’t there at the time, but Will apparently used to be capable of at least sometimes creeping up on the verge of being kinda thoughtful. There’s a bunch of sane quotes from the 1980s at this column. It’s not just that Will has declined into an mean-spirited Andy Rooney with a fancy for alliteration (though that is part of it). It’s that in the past thirty years, conservatism gradually ceased to be a mode of thought, and became a tribe, held together by common scorn of outsiders. Will has cast his lot with the tribe, and chosen to use the powers of his thesaurus for evil.

  48. 48
    BGinCHI says:

    @aimai: Well, it would really be a post-1% world if after Mitt was shitcanned we taxed him at, oh, say 67%?

  49. 49
    hueyplong says:

    Judge has apparently ruled in PA voter ID case.

    TPM says: “A Pennsylvania judge partially blocked the state’s voter ID law on Tuesday in a ruling that will still allow poll workers to ask for identification at the polling place. Under the judge’s ruling, the state will be forced to accept provisional ballots from individuals who lack identification without that individual having to show photo identity within six days of the election.”

    Probably half a loaf.

  50. 50
    amk says:

    Moving on to more important things in life,

    PA Court rules voters can cast ballots without ID

  51. 51
    General Stuck says:

    @amk:

    I had thought that was already at the PA supreme court. Oh well, good news anyways.

  52. 52
    NonyNony says:

    @low-tech cyclist:

    How he got the reputation as an Intellectual Conservative is beyond me.

    Bow-tie, glasses, and an ability to wax on and on (and on, and on, and on) about the merits and minutia of baseball.

    Really that’s about all I’ve ever seen with Will. He can talk about baseball and politics. That makes him S-M-R-T!

  53. 53
    ThresherK says:

    I’d think the racial barrier is hiring a black manager to manage some talented players, a.k.a. something at risk. But that whole scenario was before my time. The Indians had a history, anecdotally and second-hand, of not having much to lose for many years until the 1990s.

    Totally as a reverse of The Onion’s idea that “Country is in such bad shape America let a black man run it”, I’d like to know from fellow BJers their opinions on “Which was the first black manager hired with a good roster of players to manage?”

  54. 54
    Comrade Mary says:

    Put up the Kay-signal!!

    Judge halts enforcement of the Pennsylvania voting law for the election

    HARRISBURG, Pa. — A judge is postponing Pennsylvania’s tough new voter identification requirement, ordering that it not be enforced in the presidential election.
    __
    Tuesday’s ruling comes just five weeks before the election. An appeal is possible. The 6-month-old law requires each voter to show a valid photo ID.
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    Democrats and groups including the AARP and NAACP mounted a furious opposition to a law Republicans say is necessary to prevent election fraud. Critics have accused Republicans of using old-fashioned Jim Crow tactics to steal the White House and have highlighted stories of registered voters struggling to get a state photo ID.
    __
    The law was already a partisan lightning rod when a top Republican lawmaker boasted that it’d allow GOP nominee Mitt Romney to beat Democratic President Barack Obama in Pennsylvania.

  55. 55
    SatanicPanic says:

    @BGinCHI: No kidding. We can fire Obama, but it’s not like we won’t have to fill that position again.

  56. 56

    This is just a continuation of the idea of Obama as an affirmative action hire.

  57. 57
    hep kitty says:

    @PeakVT:

    And since the only people that healthy, well-off old fart pundits know is other healthy, well-off old fart pundits

    That being the case we will indeed be putting up with them much longer than necessary and/or bearable. :p

    Which is why I let brave souls like the FP’rs to the dirty work (reading/listening to them) for me so I don’t have to.

  58. 58
    1badbaba3 says:

    @pk: I see your problem here. You’re actually using your brain.

  59. 59
    Quincy says:

    I don’t even think Will was talking about black or latino voters, he probably forgot that they’re allowed to vote. When he says that America wants to see Obama succeed, he’s referring to the long gone center-left newspaper editors he came of age with who were always trying to help the poor and non-white with their silly social programs. I think George Will’s senility manifests itself in the belief that he’s still a token conservative among the 1970s villagers and that mocking the liberal establishment’s ideas on poverty, race and the environment remains a fresh approach.

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    amk says:

    @General Stuck: Of course, the thugs are gonna appeal. But don’t know they got the mother time on their side.

  61. 61
    NonyNony says:

    @amk:

    PA Court rules voters can cast ballots without ID

    That’s what the headline says. But the ruling actually says that they can cast provisional ballots and, for this election only, don’t have to show up with photo ID within six days to prevent their provisional ballot from being thrown out.

    Their provisional ballot can still be thrown out just like any other provisional ballot. It just can’t be thrown out because they didn’t show up with an id.

    So the headline is a lie. The judge’s ruling says that they can refuse citizens to right to vote if they don’t have id. They just have to be more sneaky about it and not tell them up front that their vote won’t be counted. When their vote doesn’t get counted later on, nobody will ever know.

  62. 62
    Hoodie says:

    So, Will seems to be saying we have to fire Obama to prove we can be assholes and fire a guy for no reason other than he’s black, because the other stuff (Solyndra, the Libyan “scandal”) he talks about is largely a bunchy of made up Fox News horse manure.

    What else can you make of this:

    The fact that the Indians felt free to fire Robinson — who went on to have a distinguished career managing four other teams — showed that another racial barrier had fallen: Henceforth, African Americans, too, could enjoy the God-given right to be scapegoats for impatient team owners or incompetent team executives.

    Obama has to go, not because he’s incompetent, but because John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and the George Wills of the world are impatient or incompetent? Isn’t that what the Robinson story means? After all, it’s not like it didn’t take more than a decade after Robinson’s firing for the Indians to be other than the butt end of a 1989 Charlie Sheen vehicle. Maybe Will is just trying to be subtle, like one of those inexplicable David Brooks attempts at satire, and is saying that there actually is no basis for firing Obama other than racism.

  63. 63
    Comrade Mary says:

    Oh, crap. Just as Kay warned us:

    Judge Partially Blocks PA Vopting Law
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    A Pennsylvania judge partially blocked the state’s voter ID law on Tuesday in a ruling that will still allow poll workers to ask for identification at the polling place. Under the judge’s ruling, the state will be forced to accept provisional ballots from individuals who lack identification without that individual having to show photo identity within six days of the election.

  64. 64
    PeakVT says:

    @hueyplong: Yeah, sounds like half a loaf. The number of people taking provisional ballots may still cause chaos and possibly disenfranchise people through excessive wait times. And the provisional ballots could still be challenged.

  65. 65

    Conservatives are the weirdest lifeforms on Earth. How many liberals have any of you known who thought of President Obama, when he was first running, as some kind of superhuman demi-god or savior or messiah, or even, as Will puts it, a “pin up”? Who believed this? I don’t know of anybody who did, though I guess there might have been such people. Does anybody here know of anybody who talked of then-Senator Obama this way?

    But conservatives are beating this drum now for the fourth year. Surely if this feeling about the president is as widespread as they think it is, somebody would know, or at least know of somebody who thought this way.

    So what’s wrong with these people? What makes them so wed to the belief that liberals all worship the president? Why can’t these people let this go? Is it projection? Is this how they see their leaders, so they think we must see ours that way, too? Is it something else altogether that I’m missing here? What’s the deal here? I don’t get it. I swear, some enterprising psychology doctoral student could get famous working out what the hell these people are thinking…

  66. 66
    Randy P says:

    Ii@Schlemizel: I actually assumed Mistermix knew the original line.

    I’ve just been grateful the past few days for all the song references I can recognize. I sympathize with Captain America in the Avengers movie when he perked up at a “flying monkeys” remark. “Hey, I understood that reference!”

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    Comrade Mary says:

    On second reading, what does that “without” mean? Could be typically quickie hard to parse TPM writing?

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    Belafon (formerly anonevent) says:

    Will has pushed this meme before, but as with most Republicans, he gets his racism mixed in with his idea. We would be in a post racial America if a black man is fired for being incompetent, or, in a presidential election, being the more incompetent of the candidates. But considering how freaking long it took for Republicans to fire Michael Steele, it’s obvious they cannot yet see past the skin color to the person. It’s obvious Will cannot see past Obama’s skin color, no matter how many words he uses to cover it up.

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    @Comrade Mary: I don’t understand that at all. If they’re not going to require the voter to come down to the county offices or wherever to show ID within 6 days, then what’s provisional about the ballot? Why not let the person cast a real ballot?

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    @low-tech cyclist:

    How he got the reputation as an Intellectual Conservative is beyond me.

    Florid prose. He writes a bunch of stuff that the wingnuts have a hard time understanding, and they assume it’s a sign that he’s really smart. It’s one more example of a Republican “intellectual” being a stupid person’s idea of what a smart person is like.

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    Steve says:

    George Will is onto something. The country is afraid to fire Obama because we think he might sue.

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    kindness says:

    Today I learned that voting for Obama is the political equivalent of a mercy fuck.

    That being the case how can I get a vote for Michelle Obama?

    Tacky? Yes, but considering the political stuff I read in the MSM it’s just coarse and childish. I can live with that.

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    hep kitty says:

    And let’s not forget that if Romney shows one single solitary “human moment” in the debate, regardless of how he performs otherwise, it’s all over, allll over, people! Game over, man, game over!

  74. 74
    LGRooney says:

    I reject your opening premise

    George Will thinks

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    amk says:

    @NonyNony:

    Simpson decided that for the November 6 election only, voters without appropriate photo ID could vote, but would no longer have to produce identification within six days, as their votes would be counted.

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    lacp says:

    Reading Will is too much effort for too little result. I can get the same opinions from my wingnut drinking buddies without having to use Babelfish to translate Constipated Fustian into English.

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    MikeJ says:

    @aimai:

    We will finally know we are in a truly post 1% world when even a rich guy can be told, in no uncertain terms, that he can’t buy the presidency.

    This will be Bobo’s and Will’s and McMegan’s column the day after the election.

    “Why does everybody think the rich have it so easy? They can’t even buy elections any more! This just demonstrates that Citizens United is harmless and we need tax cuts for the wealthy along with the elimination of corporate taxes.”

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    @hueyplong:

    Will is just one of many from his generation who thinks the White Man discharged any and all responsibilities and/or guilt regarding race once he decided it was OK for ni-clangs to play professional sports, and who decided they were hopelessly uppity and filled with a sense of entitlement when one of them challenged the reserve clause and Fked Up Sports For Good.

    That’s actually unfair to Will. He’s the rare conservative who came out on the players’ side in their disputes with the owners, saying that the players are the ones upholding conservative values. They demand a right to negotiate in a free market, while the owners demand a socialistic system. Or at least he made that argument until he bought a share of the Orioles, at which point the players became the worst thing ever, proving that he understands the true core of Conservative values: show me the money!

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    Comrade Mary says:

    @TooManyJens: I’m trying to grab various other reports to make sense of this. What we were dreading was the scenario where voters w/o required ID could cast a provisional ballot, but would have to provide acceptable ID within 6 days. This would be a clusterfuck that would depress turnout and lead to delayed results for the state.

    It looks as if the TPM story is trying to say that this bad news scenario came through — that the law was partially blocked — but the use of the word “without” in that sentence doesn’t parse.

    Meanwhile, the original source I linked and Time say that the law was completely halted and will not be enforced this election.

    (Kay??)

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    BobS says:

    I’m expecting Will to show up during broadcasts of the Nationals (or possibly Orioles) playoff games, giving me one more reason to want to throw him off a tall building.

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    hep kitty says:

    And may I say that all sports analogies to political races are pure, unadulterated BS and should not be tolerated in a public forum.

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    Ash Can says:

    @Hoodie:

    Maybe Will is just trying to be subtle, like one of those inexplicable David Brooks attempts at satire, and is saying that there actually is no basis for firing Obama other than racism.

    Years of perfidy, mean-spiritedness, and utter lack of humor on the right have obliterated my ability to detect their snark when it does appear. Maybe you’re right, and Will is just jumping on the bandwagon of “humor that the liberals won’t get.” I can’t tell, myself.

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    Culture of Truth says:

    I don’t trust the AP report on this decision.

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    Randy P says:

    @Anatoliĭ Lъudьvigovich Bzyp (Mumphrey, et al.): It’s always projection. Remember the photoshopped Warrior Breitbart. And they literally worship and build shrines to Ronnie.

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    Hal says:

    Did you folks know that George Will and Charles Kruthwhatever aren’t allowed to physically touch? It’s based on the same premise you see in time travel movies where if your future self touches your past self, the space time continuum collapses and destroys reality. In this case, the smugness and pompousness from the two of them will cause a singularity that will swallow the earth whole. It’s true.

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    BGinCHI says:

    @hep kitty: If there’s one thing we shouldn’t tolerate, it’s intolerance.

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    JGabriel says:

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    Anatoliĭ Lъudьvigovich Bzyp (Mumphrey, et al.):

    Conservatives are the weirdest lifeforms on Earth. … So what’s wrong with these people? … Is it projection? Is this how they see their leaders, so they think we must, too? … I swear, some enterprising psychology doctoral student could get famous working out what the hell these people are thinking.

    Short Answer: Yes, projection is a big part of it.

    Longer Answer: Bob Altemeyer, among others, has already done much of that psych research: The Authoritarians.

    .

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    hep kitty says:

    @Hal: It would be interesting to see them cross streams. :)

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    Comrade Mary says:

    OH LOOK MORE VOTER FRAUD FROM THOSE DAMN DEMO — oh

    In a complaint filed last week with the county registrar of voters, the Democrats presented affidavits from 133 Democratic voters who said they had been re-registered as Republicans without their consent after they encountered petition circulators outside welfare offices and stores.
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    One voter complained that his registration was changed to Republican after he signed what he thought was a petition to legalize marijuana. Another said he was told he was signing a petition to lower the price of gasoline, according to the affidavits.
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    Others said they were offered free cigarettes or a “job at the polls” if they signed some paperwork.
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    Also among the Democrats who said they were involuntarily re-registered as Republicans: two aides to retired U.S. Air Force Maj. Gen. Richard Roth, a Democrat locked in a tight race with Republican Assemblyman Jeff Miller for a state Senate seat.

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    Redshift says:

    @Anatoliĭ Lъudьvigovich Bzyp (Mumphrey, et al.): They can’t tell the difference between eyes shining with admiration and eyes glazed with worship, because that’s all they allow for their heroes. So, more projection.

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    Linda says:

    @shortstop: You mean “not getting it on pretty much anything.” This posting, and the McArdle posting under it, lets me think the left will create most of the new ideas in this country for the next 20 years, just because the intellectual firepower of the right is gone. It’s like the major league team looks at its farm system, and sees the Bad News Bears.

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    RSA says:

    @AxelFoley:

    Oh, George, I see what you did there.

    I bet he was chuckling to himself at the time.

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    NotMax says:

    Since part of the thread is on voting methods:

    Reading about Venezuela’s voting machines makes me cringe about this being the coming trend.

    After keying in an identification number, a voter’s photo and name will pop up on a screen. Only after validating their identity with a thumb swipe over an electronic reader will the voting machine be activated.
    __
    The government and independent observers say the new system is one of the most sophisticated in the hemisphere. It’s designed to weed out double voting and leave behind a paper and digital trail that makes it fast and easy to audit.  Source

    Whenever talk of auditing digital systems appears, it generally seems to play out as plugging in the memory card or stick more than once and reading out its (obviously identical) tally again.

    And I have to firmly and forcefully disagree with Jimmy Carter, as quoted in the article. Too much blind faith is placed in the assumed inerrancy of high tech because it is high tech. Digital systems can be hacked or compromised in manners far less traceable or readily discoverable than in the case of mechanical or physical systems. Not to mention the havoc a single uncaught bad line of code can wreak.

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    cal1942 says:

    @1badbaba3: Would you like to reconsider? Will has no lips.

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    Comrade Mary says:

    @NotMax: Paper ballots. Distributed processing (i.e. teams of poll workers counting each ballot in their assigned ballot box and reporting to their supervisor). Paper trail. It works. It really goddamn works.

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    ericblair says:

    @Anatoliĭ Lъudьvigovich Bzyp (Mumphrey, et al.):

    Is it projection? Is this how they see their leaders, so they think we must see ours that way, too?

    SATSQ, yes. And for the lefties snarking on about Dear Leader, they’re just as authoritarian as the wingers and have the same confusion about limitations of powers.

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    hueyplong says:

    I probably read the opinion too fast, but it appears that Obama campaign people need to come up with and distribute a form affidavit to voters who lack the PA voter ID, and they’ve got to either (1) get those people to make a second trip during the week after Nov 6 to file it, or (b) arrange for efficient faxing of those affidavits, or else risk a successful attack on their provisional ballots.

    The affidavit has to swear is that the voter is the same person who voted last Tuesday, and that he/she is indigent and can’t get the PA-required ID. Not sure about the measuring stick for that second part, but I guess merely filing it creates a burden of challenge on the GOP types.

    As in most cases, “who has the burden of proof?” is the real issue.

    If provisional ballots are counted separately/later, it will highlight which party gets screwed by voter ID laws in a way that is pretty difficult to dispute.

    The GOTV people in PA need to get cracking. They’ve got 5 weeks to get an efficient system in place. They’re probably up to the task.

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    The Dangerman says:

    First cup of coffee here on the West Coast…

    …but, WHAT THE FUCK? The reason people are voting for Obama is because they don’t want to fire an African American?

    This was actually printed in a newspaper? Did the newspaper actually pay for that shit?

    George Will must have been hit in the head by a baseball as a youth; I can think of no other explanation.

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    Hal says:

    @RSA:

    I bet he was chuckling to himself at the time.

    George Will does not chuckle. He guffaws.

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    Comrade Mary says:

    Anyway, TPM has updated. Reilly (who write the linked article) says that poll workers are “allowed” to ask for ID, while Kurtz thinks that they arev “required” to ask. I think Kurtz is wrong, but provisional ballots are still a pain in the ass. This might have been the best ruling we could get from this asshole judge, though.

    A Pennsylvania judge on Tuesday issued a ruling on the state’s voting law that will allow poll workers to ask for photo identification but will still allow voters to cast provisional ballots without subsequently having to show an ID.
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    The ruling strikes down two provisions of the law that required voters to show their IDs within six days of voting or appear before the county board of elections. The state will also still be allowed to educate voters about the new identification requirement.

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    MaxxLange says:

    I guess this makes sense if you think that Obama only won because people voted for him to “prove” they are not racist

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    GregB says:

    @Hal:

    It would create the equivalence of the cat/buttered toast perpetual motion machine.

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    piratedan says:

    man, what a double dose of stupid… first McArdle and her administrative assistant view of business acumen (and her being the worst kind, the job is just a job and she reports to Mr. Munchkin w/o ever figuring out just exactly what he does) extolling the business virtue of a guy who only feasts on the wounded corpses of businesses and hasn’t produced anything except profits for his cronies and put people out of work. Couple that with Will, who believes that the Black guy has gotten a huge pass in job performance never mind the fact that the opposition to his mere existence is unprecedented in American politics for the last 150 years. Will apparently feels that the last economic depression was just a blip since nobody’s head ended up on pikes outside the walled compounds and we should return to the blessed state of Country Club politics.

    christ, it’s a good thing that we’re cultured or else I’d set these asshats down in Somalia with a grocery bag of rice krispy treats and say, feel free to barter your way to the top of the political food chain you wankers.

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    Culture of Truth says:

    projection? Nah. Hey did you hear about the Paul Ryan Calendar coming out? The shirtless Congressman reenacts 12 scenes from Atlas Shrugged. All proceeds go to elder abuse.

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    Lurking Canadian says:

    Is there room for Will in the hole into which Derbyshire was banished?

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    MikeJ says:

    @Comrade Mary:
    from the decision:

    First, as discussed below, I reject the premise upon which Petitioners’ argument is based. That is, I reject the underlying assertion that the offending activity is the request to produce photo ID; instead, I conclude that the salient offending conduct is voter disenfranchisement. As a result, I will not restrain election officials from asking for photo ID at the polls; rather, I will enjoin enforcement of those parts of Act 18 which directly result in disenfranchisement.

    Of course earlier he said: “Importantly, Petitioners concede that parts of Act 18 (relating to proof of identification for absentee voting) do not cause injury and may be implemented. ” So they were never really even asking to get rid of the ID requirement, just trying to make it easier to get one.

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    I’ve read the ruling itself and I’m not any less confused. Voters without ID don’t have to cast provisional ballots, except that the only part of the law that the judge is enjoining is the part that says voters have to show up with ID within 6 days or their provisional ballot gets thrown out? IANAL but I can usually understand judicial opinions reasonably well, but this one seems pretty muddy.

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    chadwig says:

    “Henceforth, African Americans, too, could enjoy the God-given right to be scapegoats for impatient team owners or incompetent team executives.”

    Does Will not comprehend that Republicans are the “impatient team owners” and “incompetent team executives” in his analogy?

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    Culture of Truth says:

    I don’t have the opinion in front of me, but I have the court summary, which strikes enforcement of the ID portion as instructed by the higher court, but the state can still proceed with “transition” to the law, including “education efforts”, which can include, I imagine, demanding ID even though no one is required to have it.

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    aimai says:

    @hueyplong:
    That’s horrible. Provisional ballots are, for all practical purposes, not counted. What a fucker.

    aimai

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    Forum Transmitted Disease says:

    How many liberals have any of you known who thought of President Obama, when he was first running, as some kind of superhuman demi-god or savior or messiah, or even, as Will puts it, a “pin up”? Who believed this? I don’t know of anybody who did, though I guess there might have been such people.

    @Anatoliĭ Lъudьvigovich Bzyp (Mumphrey, et al.): I know one. They’ve got a wall in their house dedicated to Obama. It’s really fucking creepy to be honest.

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    NotMax says:

    @Culture of Truth

    Hey did you hear about the Paul Ryan Calendar coming out?

    It has no numbers and no specifics as to days or months.

    Those will all be released the following year.

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    PeakVT says:

    I think this is the relevant passage from the decision:

    Similarly, I reject the Respondents’ post-hearing argument that apossible remedy is to enjoin only operation of the disenfranchisement language added by Act 18 to Section 1210(a.4)(5)(ii) of the Election Code, discussed above. Thus, Respondents suggest that a qualified elector be asked to produce proof of identification, but be allowed to cast a provisional ballot. This argument fails to acknowledge the General Assembly’s express intent that during the transition into full implementation of Act 18, an otherwise qualified elector need not cast a provisional ballot.

    So I (think I) was wrong @above. Provisional ballots will not be taken.

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    @MikeJ: They were asking to get rid of it for in-person voting:

    For several reasons, I decline Petitioners’ post-hearing invitation to enjoin Act 18’s requirement that election officials request that an in-person voter show photo ID.

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    Keith G says:

    Will is an old timey mashup of Sully and Andy Rooney. He is a curmudgeon who is a wordsmith with a talent for longer form writing. Still, he has become a shallow thinker and seems to have checked his intellectual curiosity at the door in the late 60s.

    Last week while doing chores, I listened to Alec Baldwin interview Will. His lack of care for the poor took my breath away. He was even more of an effete shit than I remembered.

    This quote was from the comments:

    This was a very painful and enraging interview. George Will is humorless and egotistical. I never really listened to him aside from a sound bite or two and have only read a few of his written comments. Now I know him better and I would characterize his political philosophy as right in the middle of Justice Antonin Scalia and Justice Clarence Thomas. I will add that there was not a single syllable from Will that I agreed with, even a little.

    But it was enlightening. I remembered that he is a petty man whom I need not care about.

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    MikeJ says:

    @TooManyJens: That’s what I get for reading and posting to fast.

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    @Comrade Mary:
    What’s really unclear is exactly why the Republicans are trying to get Democrats to change their official party affiliation. It’s not as if it’s going to change the way they vote, and the Republicans don’t get any extra money by doing it. And they’re very likely to be found out, as they were in this case. So why bother?

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    @Roger Moore:

    So why bother?

    Because they’re just that immature, dickish, and lacking in respect for the democratic process.

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    JGabriel says:

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    hueyplong:

    The GOTV people in PA need to get cracking. They’ve got 5 weeks to get an efficient system in place. They’re probably up to the task.

    Maybe they’re up to the task in Philly, but you’ve clearly never been to Wilkes-Barre.

    .

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    @NotMax:
    My feeling is that if you want to use electronic voting machines, they should still spit out a pre-printed paper ballot. You could have the votes encoded as something like a QR tag to make them easy to count by machine but also have them printed in plain text to make it easy for the voter to make sure their ballot was correct and to make hand recounts and audits possible. Yes, that would be a bit more expensive than a pure electronic system, but it seems like a worthwhile price to pay for being confident our votes are being counted correctly.

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    japa21 says:

    Okay, if I am reading Will right, he is actually making the case to vote for Obama. By comparing the situation to Robinson, he is saying that if voters are impatient, they may vote Obama out of office, but if they are patient and vote for him, they will probably be rewarded. After all, he appears to be saying that based upon Robinson’s success later, Cleveland was wrong to fire him when they did.

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    Ash Can says:

    @piratedan:

    christ, it’s a good thing that we’re cultured or else I’d set these asshats down in Somalia with a grocery bag of rice krispy treats and say, feel free to barter your way to the top of the political food chain you wankers.

    To hell with the rice krispy treats. Bootstraps, people!

    @TooManyJens: I don’t get it either. If the judge is essentially treating provisional and regular ballots the same, why make the distinction at all? I wonder if he’s doing this deliberately, with the intention of highlighting the flaws and contradictions inherent in the law as it’s currently written.

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    Comrade Mary says:

    @Roger Moore: The rest of the article suggests this:

    Maviglio contended that by padding their registration numbers, Republicans could get a fundraising boost because prospective donors would view local races as more winnable.
    __
    Re-registering Democrats as Republicans also interferes with Democratic get-out-the-vote efforts, he said, because the party won’t contact a voter who is listed as a Republican.

    Gosh. That can’t be a pattern, can it?

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    Linda Featheringill says:

    So George Will has given us his permission to no vote for Obama? That’s nice.

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    @Forum Transmitted Disease:

    I know one. They’ve got a wall in their house dedicated to Obama. It’s really fucking creepy to be honest.

    Yeah, I find all the requests to sign birthday and anniversary cards for the First Family to be more than a bit creepy, too. If people really want to do that stuff for themselves, I think that’s fine, but for the White House to solicit that stuff seems way too close to encouraging a cult of personality.

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    Bill in Section 147 says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: “That’s not a tumbrel. That’s a bus.” Overheard on the Alameda de los Tumbrels in the town of Villago Delenda Est.

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    Culture of Truth says:

    My bathroom is a shrine to Joe Biden.

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    sharl says:

    Tweet from Dan Froomkin:

    Just got off the phone with ACLU PA lawyer: “Huge win” he says. Transition period is extended, regular ballots for voters w/o ID! #voterid

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    Jay in Oregon says:

    I think Willy Wonka says it best:

    http://i.qkme.me/3r6006.jpg

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    Daddy Love says:

    @shortstop: While simultaneously and paradoxically sinking to new lows.

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    Cannoneo says:

    This is the same “argument” that got Rush Limbaugh quickly bounced from ESPN, a place where decision makers have to interact with actual black people on a regular basis. Will the WaPo honchos see the same insanity in this political forum that was so obvious to sports fans? Not holding my breath.

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    @NotMax:
    The only real reason for a government to buy high-tech voting machines is to give a nice spendy contract to some crony’s company.

    Paper ballots. Hand-counted (or at least hand-countable should there be an issue). And if you’re worried about fraud, there’s always the ‘dip your finger into indelible ink’ trick. It’d be just like Ash Wednesday (“Yes, I voted”), except on a Tuesday.

    Speaking of ink, remember when every GOP Congresscritter showed up to some Bush speech with inky fingers, as a show of solidarity with Iraqi voters, who had had their first election that day? Funny how those very same critters would likely fight against using the same technique in our own country, tooth and nail.

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    Redshift says:

    @Comrade Mary: Another possibility is that they were greeting paid for registering Republicans.

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    donnah says:

    @Schlemizel: At least three stiffs could be hidden under that horrifically bad toupee.

    One actually is.

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    danimal says:

    @Cacti: It’s amazing how “looks smart” translates to respect.

    @Comrade Mary: Hey, that’s my neck of the woods. Don’t be shocked by dirty tricks in the Inland Empire this year, we’re the swingingest part of the Golden State. Two-thirds of the State Senate in Dem control could mean a world of difference. Also, for those looking for a House race Dem to sponsor, Mark Takano is in a winnable battle in CA 41.

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    Forum Transmitted Disease says:

    I had a dweeb friend in high school who was really into politics and Reagan. He was big on George Will. I was, put nicely, pretty unaware, save that I instantly saw that Reagan was a world class monster who fapped at night while dreaming of killing all the disobedient young people.

    I also saw that George Will wore a bowtie, a piece of clothing that’s only permissible to wear in public if you’re working as a member of a barbershop quartet. I figured out solely from this that he would never have anything of value to say.

    Well, thirty years later, I’m smarter, my friend is now a Dem and also quite a bit smarter, and I was right about Reagan and I was even more right about George Will.

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    scav says:

    Still, as a cunning plan, first screaming about fraud so that everyone is going over the registrations really really carefully; then hiring firms that have committed fraud in the past (by dodgy forms, now being actively looked for as well as by outright d-form tossing); and then making it to the end workers financial advantage to turn in D registrations as Rs (which will then make it past the dumping fraud at least), well . . . I guess it’s all part of that Ryan Math(tm) that is too complicated for us folk. Sowing confusion, they’ve certainly managed that.

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    marianne19 says:

    General Stuck:
    I just went over to the WMUR website and they are going crazy in the comments.

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    nastybrutishntall says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: George Will’s obituary will be filed under “Backpfeifengesicht.”

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    shortstop says:

    @scav: It’s just too hard to untangle. (Throws up hands.) Politicians! They’re all the same!

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    Suffern ACE says:

    Once fired by the country’s owners, Obama went on to a long distinguished career Presidenting for other countries. He did well in those countries that had no sense of tradition and opted for the socialist designated Secretary of Transportation rule, which ruins the strategy of governing if you ask me.

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    👽 Martin says:

    @Anatoliĭ Lъudьvigovich Bzyp (Mumphrey, et al.):

    So what’s wrong with these people? What makes them so wed to the belief that liberals all worship the president?

    I thought there were a lot of clues in the NYTimes book review that Brachiator posted a week ago or so:

    Kesler’s history of Progressivism doesn’t involve real public figures making real choices about real policies under real constraints in real time. It follows the determined historical journey of the Progressive Idea in words, from the New Freedom platform of Wilson’s first campaign, down through the New Deal speeches of Franklin Roosevelt (who spoke German as a child), then to Lyndon Johnson’s announcements of the War on Poverty and the Great Society. Once that rhetorical lineage is established, he then tries to show how the Idea spread out into American culture at large, bringing with it existentialist self-absorption, moral relativism and passivity in the face of the new administrative state, so that by the midcentury we nearly became Europeans (only fatter). That is when “it fell to Ronald Reagan to help restore Americans’ confidence in themselves, which he did in the name not of liberalism but of ­conservatism.”

    You have to read the whole thing to really capture it all, but the argument here (and the more I agree with it, the more it explains various things) is that the right didn’t go batshit over Obama, or even over Clinton. Rather, they realized ages ago that Progressivism was inevitable in the evolution of societies – Europe went that way, Japan went that way, various other nations have gone that way after crisis as well, and that the US is steadily creeping down the same path. The right has determined that progressivism is every bit as dangerous as fascism, and they keep spinning this every larger and ever more dire fable about it. Guys like Clinton and Obama merely show up to be dropped into pre-determined villain roles and so no sooner does Obama get inaugurated that the right has gone after him for redistribution and increasing taxes. He did neither, but that doesn’t matter – in this fable, its inevitable that he will do those things if given the chance, because those things are inevitable according to the fable, if not for a determined band of wolverines willing to stand athwart history and bring the human race to its senses.

    If you subscribe to this progressivism will come and destroy us all fable, just like you’d want to go back and tell Germany in 1930, or many religious texts proclaim, then the only way someone like Obama could ever get elected in the first place, riding this wave of evilness, is if his supporters were worshippers, blindly obedient with no ability to assess the world around them and the obviousness of the damage that a progressive leader would cause us. Only fanatics could elect Obama, because who the fuck would willingly elect Hitler?

    This also explains why the right is so touchy about the racist claims. The root of their hatred isn’t Obama’s race, but that he’s the latest horseman of the apocalypse who just happens to be black. They can’t help in their desperate attempts to warn us from certain American doom to regularly spill into racial attacks, but the sudden hatred for Obama may not stem from his race at all. We obviously can’t tell the difference because the progressive doom fable is the craziest fucking thing imaginable, so the biggest piece of new evidence we can recognize is Obama’s race, and that’s what we blame the sudden hostility on.

    I think it ties up some loose ends quite nicely.

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    Alex says:

    My favorite George Will column is still the one where he complains about kids these days wearing blue jeans – http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....02861.html

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    tamied says:

    @Culture of Truth:

    All proceeds go to elder abuse

    For or against?

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    El Cid says:

    I remember listening to my grandfather talk about when he was a boy, all of the baseball games were on the radio, and he and his childhood friends would gather together, tune in, bring handfuls of homemade snacks, and all yell together as the game started “George Will is a Fucking Idiot!”

    Ah, the good old days.

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    BrianM says:

    @NotMax: You think you’re joking, but there’s tangible evidence. http://twitpic.com/b0fld7

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    Vlad says:

    If anyone in this thread would like to mercy fuck and/or vote for me, go right ahead.

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    SRW1 says:

    Today I learned that voting for Obama is the political equivalent of a mercy fuck.

    Would it be out of bounds tasteless to wonder whether voting for Romney would then be akin to volunteering for a rape victim experience?

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    Suffern ACE says:

    @👽 Martin: When I read that review, I realized that the whole “Anglo-Saxons Good. Germans bad” idea isn’t really about fascism at all. It’s just that the intellectual roots of American Conservatism come out of the England post civil and their bugaboo was the rise of Germany. Of course Wilson studied Germany. Lots of folks did. Not to learn about Hegel. But because those universities were kicking ass in the late 19th Century and doing such things like awarding Doctorates in the Sciences – you know. The future and stuff. OMG – and they had improved their bureaucracy by writing down rules and shit.

    So when you want to make fund of them, instead of “racist” you should go with “OMG. The Hun. The Hun!”

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    patroclus says:

    Firing Barack Obama would be like benching Jackie Robinson from 1947 to 1955 – maybe baseball writer George Will can wrap his head around that one.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @shortstop:

    hotly denying climate change.

    I see what you did there, shortstop.

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    […] morning, mistermix at Balloon Juice linked to George Will saying some bullshit about America’s inexplicable condescension toward some black dude who got to be president […]

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    Lyrebird says:

    @Schlemizel: Yah, eww… I’m sure no one is still reading this, but I gotta say I’d never before gotten that vibe from George Will, but what he said in the quote is GROSS.

    Like, I would not agree to a closed-door meeting with this guy gross.

    Above and beyond being bloody effing racist.

    I’m sure Black people never got fired before whatever baseball story he’s telling, yeah riiiight…

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    Lyrebird says:

    @Anatoliĭ Lъudьvigovich Bzyp (Mumphrey, et al.):
    Strastvuitye, Anatoliy,

    Ronnie Janoff-Bulman works on this to some extent, though the answers (trends, more like), don’t fully explain our Age of Lack of Reason.

    More importantly, I hope the mumphreylets are doing fabulously, and their maman as well!!

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    Bruce S says:

    George Will no longer wears his bow tie in public, but I’m dead certain he dons it when he writes creepy shit like that last column.

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    Bruce S says:

    @Alex:

    Dispositive proof that George Will is, at his core, anti-American. He unloads the imagined ravings a European political philosopher against “the real America.” Shocking stuff.

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    Tom says:

    “George Will, as usual, of course, pinpoints the problem precisely – America’s long and agonzied history of giving black people every possible break and advantage, which reflects the nation’s endlessly generous and compassionate heart; but is, as he says, not to put to fine a point on it, stupid.”

    Darn, I always thought the real “problem” was providing affirmative action access to Ivy League schools to the self-entitled sons of the well-born and wealthy , like George Will!

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Culture of Truth: WTF, you think they would have flogged that not only dead, but I’m not so sure it was ever living horse, maybe it was a hobby horse, to death back in the 1980s.

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    jake the snake says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    you don’t understand, George Soros, the notorious Jewish Nazi, is the brains behind the Kenyan Marxist Muslim Usurper.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: tumbrel? too good for him

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Tom: Yes, it certainly seemed that way to MY younger, no-connection-having, barely-middle-class white-assed self. Who knew I could just blame it all on Black people?

    When I attended a (joke of an) exam school in the 1990s, it seemed to me like half of the students who sat for the exam were students of color, but the number who got in you could count on one hand. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AT WORK.

    Well, oops it turns out that was affirmative action on behalf of white suburban students by the Montgomery County Public School District (desegregate? oh, we’ll show you desegregation).

    At least I’m not crazy.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @amk:

    the nation, which is generally reluctant to declare a president a failure — thereby admitting that it made a mistake in choosing him

    will must be talking about dubya + dubya.

    dumbya

    eta: FYWP, also dumb, also

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @General Stuck:

    Tally ho!!

    Jai ho!

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @reflectionephemeral:

    A little bit ago Pres. Obama was “a floundering naif” or a “real radical”.

    George Will: reduced to mining old MoDo columns for material.

    It’s that or pretending to be an authority on baseball.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Anatoliĭ Lъudьvigovich Bzyp (Mumphrey, et al.):

    How many liberals have any of you known who thought of President Obama, when he was first running, as some kind of superhuman demi-god or savior or messiah, or even, as Will puts it, a “pin up”? Who believed this?

    I had one friend who, as she put it, “fell in love with Obama” and worked like hell on his campaign, then “fell out of love… and it was ugly”. She participates in a weekly 9/11 TROOF conference call and goes on about drones. In other words she (btw, she was born in Canada, think about that) is FAR to the left of Obama and always will be.

    She handed me a Greg Palast book to read that was so incendiary I couldn’t get through it… too damn depressing. She also handed me a pretty lightweight, uncontroversial Glenn Glibertarian book. I told her he was a libertarian and she didn’t believe it. But he is. Smarmy fucker. Who btw wants to benefit from other people’s work moving GLBT issues into the mainstream but feels comfortable taking potshots at the president from his perch overseas, smarmy, privileged little fucker that he is. WAAH, PONIES.

    We’re ALWAYS outnumbered and outgunned in the good fight. But emotional infants wish it weren’t so.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    But considering how freaking long it took for Republicans to fire Michael Steele, it’s obvious they cannot yet see past the skin color to the person.

    Maybe if you sub Michael Steele/Reince Priebus.

    Steele got canned for stopping the cash spigot. The party actually did fabulous under him, but the bigot donors were outraged by a) Black man, b) attempts to be hip and relevant, c) fake lesbian stripper club scandal. Sure, that last totally was justified and provided the excuse to can him. We laughed at him a lot but he wasn’t a terrible spokesperson for the Republican Party. He seemed more human than his voting record would indicate and aside from fake-strip-club-gate, where is his list of failures?

    Now look at RNC PR BS… he’s ridiculed too. Colbert didn’t even need a muppet to mock him because Priebus presented the material himself. He’s a mean-spirited College Republican rat-fucker who has no shame backing “legitimate rape” Akin. If you look at the clowns like Angle and O’Donnell that Steele had to defend and how relatively gaffe-free that went, as compared to Priebus…

    Steele looks like a genius.

    But Priebus is one of the good old boys. He is not going to be yanked for sucking and the dollars will flow like it’s Citizens United’s birthday.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @NotMax: I’ve used the thumb machine at Disney and the handshape scanner at work.

    THEY SUCK.

    Just use the old indelible ink. It works, it’s cheap, and your main problem is good old voter intimidation at polling sites, ballot stuffing/stealing, you know, the old Tammany Hall playbook.

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    bemused senior says:

    Back when the New Republic was actually a liberal magazine, there was a recurring satire column (can’t recall the author) that designated George Will as “George the Third”. He retains that designation at our house.

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    Wally Ballou says:

    @BobS: What really sucks is that politics aside, I’d actually prefer Will in the booth to, say, Tim McCarver.

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    …reluctant not to give up on the first African American president. If so, the 2012 election speaks well of the nation’s heart, if not its head.

    Will is such a condescending little prick

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