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All your base are belong to Tunch.

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

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Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

Four legs? good! two legs? we’re not so sure…

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The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

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How do you get liars to care about the truth?

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

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Looks like my boycott of the NFL lasted an entire three days, and now that the refs are back, I can watch tonight. If there is ever a contest for the most painless bit of slacktivism ever, this boycott of mine will win in a landslide. Vow to quit watching football immediately after MNF until the refs are brought back, two days with no games for me to boycott go by, the refs are back, and less than three days after my vow, I can safely watch football again.

I’m not sure how anything could possibly beat that. Also too, GO BROWNS!

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  2. 2.

    JWL

    “Go Browns”… hardee har har.

    Did you hear Jerry Jones on Tuesday morning? “I went to bed at half-time, and read a blurb about the [ruckus] in this morning’s paper”. That asshole.

  4. 4.

    SatanicPanic

    Dude you have super powers. just the threat of boycott was enough to end the strike.

  8. 8.

    jimmiraybob

    Well, I’m in. I’m a little late to the party but as of now I’m retroactively boycotting the NFL. Starting right after lunch earlier today.

    ….

    ……..

    Woooohoooooo, a win!

    Thanks Mitt Romney. You’re pioneering contribution to retroactive action has made it possible to get a whole lot done at a time and in a way that is most convenient.

    Go Rams! [hey, a boy can dream]

  9. 9.

    danimal

    GO BROWNS???

    In that case, I’m looking forward to the drunken, rage-filled rant that’s coming in…ooooh…4.5 hours or so.

    The Steelers aren’t going to back into anything via cheap Raven losses, they’ll have to earn it on the field.

  10. 10.

    FridayNext

    @SatanicPanic:

    Agreed. Paraphrasing LBJ I suspect Goodell was lamenting, “If we’ve lost John Cole, we’ve lost Middle American.”

    Lock-out solved.

    Edit: I see Bubba Dave beat me to the reference. But at least I got a more accurate quote.

  13. 13.

    The Sailor

    @Steve: I gave up football for lint. Lint kept getting caught in my nose so I switched to coke. Then the bubbles made me sneeze. So I went back to football.

    Why are you looking at me like that?

  18. 18.

    MattR

    Personally, I think it was the hunger strike by tens of thousands of football fans yesterday that did the trick.

  20. 20.

    The Sailor

    Well, sure, it wasn’t the uncalled death blows, it was the Packers losing on MNFB.

    Once you’ve lost Obama …

  23. 23.

    ricknro

    One of my favorite things about this blog is the occasional NFL posts. It was here last week where I found a link for live-streaming the Raider / Pittsburg game…I game I couldn’t get because of where I live.

    Tonight’s game reeks of a stinker…the Cleveland Browns? Yikes…

    Green Bay got screwed last Monday but Packer fans should thank their lucky stars that it was only a regular season game. I’ve watched the Raiders over the years get screwed out of 3 playoff games by blown calls and officiating incompetence.

    Ten years after he retired, Frenchy Fuqua admitted that the Bradshaw’s pass him in the immaculate deception game. Playoff gift to the Steelers.

    The the blown call on the Rob Lytle fumble in Denver at the Raider goal line screwed the Raiders out of a chance to defend their championship. Playoff gift to Denver.

    And then there was the worst call in NFL history…the tuck rule. The thing is, after ruling a fumble on the field recovered by Oakland, Walt Coleman put his head under the hood and decided that there was indisputable visual evidence that Brady was attempting a pass. There is no one on the planet that saw that play thought it was anything but a fumble. But worst of all, replay was used to reverse it.

    I’ve been against replay ever since.

  24. 24.

    MattR

    @The Sailor: If anything, I’d say it was losing Scott Walker and Paul Ryan that had the bigger effect.

    @General Stuck: I would definitely look for better options but atdhe.eu has links (They used to have a US site but the gov’t claimed it. I think http://88.80.11.29/ is where it is now) The quality is not that great, but it is watchable (and the problems could also be because of my setup).

  25. 25.

    RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist

    Open thread? Still in Mexico. May be home by dark on Sat. Starting work at 3:00 am tomorrow and must succeed or heads will be used as bocce balls.
    Upside: I’ve been too panicked for 2 days to think about US politics, like Soonergrunt. I recommend it.

    RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist +2 cerveza.

  29. 29.

    raven

    I’m no Webb fan but Hooraah!

    ‎”They paid, some with their lives, some through wounds and disabilities, some through their emotional scars, some through the lost opportunities and delayed entry into civilian careers which had already begun for many of their peers who did not serve. “

  30. 30.

    Geoduck

    @lamh35:

    OT, but Jesus H. Christ, if this pic isn’t photoshopped, it should be used to hammer Scott Brown for his “meh” reaction to his supporters racist actions.

    That is a horrible sign, but.. man, the person complaining about racist Native American stereotypes uses a Washington Redskins helmet as their avatar?

  32. 32.

    Mechwarrior Online

    @raven:

    That’s not even the most brutal part

    “But in receiving veterans’ benefits, they are not takers. They were givers, in the ultimate sense of that word. There is a saying among war veterans: “All gave some, some gave all.” This is not a culture of dependency. It is a part of a long tradition that gave this country its freedom and independence.”

    “And not only did they pay. They will not say this, so I will say it for them. They are owed, if nothing else, at least a mention, some word of thanks and respect, when a presidential candidate who is their generational peer makes a speech accepting his party’s nomination to be commander-in-chief. And they are owed much more than that — a guarantee that we will never betray the commitment that we made to them and to their loved ones. ”

    And Webb is Mr. White Working Class incarnate. Also his kid dropped out of college to enlist in the Marines, unlike Romney’s.

    Webb has a temper, fights dirty, and is hard to attack as some Ivy League elitist. The dude can really drive the knife home. He’s not much of a “speaker”, but he’s a good ranter when he’s mad even though he looks like he’s about to strangle someone.

    I’m a Webb fan though, sorry we are losing him as a senator.

    EDIT- also he was Reagans SEC Navy, so good luck! The dude was party of the guys team.

  33. 33.

    ? Martin

    If there is ever a contest for the most painless bit of slacktivism ever, this boycott of mine will win in a landslide.

    Not even close as anyone who’s had a 3 year old daughter can attest.

  36. 36.

    RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist

    @raven:

    Pelota. I remember that now and wish I didn’t.
    If we don’t succeed tomorrow a large auto assembly plant will stop assembling autos.
    Step one: fork-lift a machine that costs as much as a McMansion 15 feet in the air onto a scaffold. Then the hard part begins.

    Interesting Mexico TV fact: all of the sports shows have that blown Green Bay call pretty much on infinite loop. My Spanish isn’t good enough to know if they’re making fun of us but they might as well be. Thank FSM that’s over.

  37. 37.

    Mechwarrior Online

    @raven:

    I’m not saying he’s perfect, but he’s one of the good ones. And as a hardcore advocate for veterans issue and the working class, he’s in a league of his own.

    He’s also one of the most brutal tools we have for taking a hatchet to the republicans.

  42. 42.

    killer

    I don’t want to rain on your boycott parade, but the refs are back for the same reason there is an injury report for the NFL. Please note that the settlement came immediatly following ONE casino offering refunds to folks that bet on the packers game. Think NFL management knows addelson?

  43. 43.

    RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist

    @raven:

    Can’t say. Wouldn’t be prudent. But not to worry. We will prevail.

    +2

    Need to sack out for the 3:00 am wakeup. I’ll catch up on the elections hysterics on Sat.

    Cheers

  45. 45.

    Thoroughly Pizzled

    Last season, the Ravens lost to the Seahawks and Jaguars. Never rely on them to win the games they should.

  48. 48.

    patrick II

    Although I have no skin in the game I did not care much for the settlement. At a time when the refs had as much leverage as they were going to get, they gave away the retirement system’s guaranteed benefit starting in five years. It sounds like the old refs (of which there are many) sold out the young refs, much like Paul Ryan is trying to get the current medicare beneficiaries to sell out the younger ones.

  50. 50.

    MattR

    @patrick II: I can’t believe that they did not hold the line that all current refs keep their pension, even if all new refs are in a 401K type plan. But who knows what the state of negotiations was last week so we can’t judge how much the NFL moved from their previous position. If the NFL gave in on a bunch of other items, the refs might have felt pressured to make this concession to get a deal done.

  60. 60.

    patrick II

    @MattR:

    “How much they moved” is bullshit. Sorry. NFL puts up some outrageous lowball positions and tells the refs to take it or leave it, and then finally “move” from it? Bullshit. Just hardball negotiations at which the owners won.

  63. 63.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    These refs are practically giddy from the crowd adulation. If this keeps up, they’re going to start doing elaborate dance moves as they signal their calls.

  70. 70.

    Felinious Wench

    @J. Michael Neal: Yes, it’s a large book, full of obscure references to various heretical sects and occasional bursts of Latin. All woven into the Inquisition and monk-murders and manuscripts…God, I love it so. :)

  71. 71.

    Liquid

    Jimminy Gillickers! The league had better fine the absolute shit out of #59 for that egregious display of dirty pool.

  73. 73.

    honus

    @Mechwarrior Online: I’m a Webb fan too. I disagree on him on a lot of issues, but I’ve met guys that served with him, and they invariably speak of him with respect and admiration. He relentlessly went after Ollie North in 1994, to keep him out of the senate, and he rid the Commonwealth for the first time in 26 years, of George Allen as an elected official. And at the time, Allen was the 800lb gorilla of Virginia politics and on the GOP’s short list of presidential contenders. And the guy’s novel about MacArthur is really good.

  74. 74.

    FridayNext

    So is this game only on the NFL channel? GSDamnit!!

    Have fun you elitist, subscription channel watching 1% pig dogs. I wish I were you.

  76. 76.

    Spaghetti Lee

    Given all the talk about the relative brutal honesty of sports reporters about how this was a political fight, I thought this from Deadspin was pretty well-written:

    The NFL locked out its referees in the name of taking away their pensions. It was not that the pensions were a threat to the longterm fiscal survival of the league—again and again, we were reminded that the sums involved were pocket change in a growing, multibillion-dollar enterprise. It was that the pensions existed at all. The mere existence of a defined-benefit retirement plan offended an ownership class that had looked around and seen that every other business owner in America had already broken that particular contract. The referees’ old deal was deemed insufficiently hard-edged or market-driven. That was the most vulgar thing about the lockout. It was a matter of ideological purity. It was … aesthetic.

    …Goodell talks incessantly about protecting “the shield.” He means the league’s heraldic corporate logo—its brand—not any useful sort of shield. His whole tenure has been a prolonged and infinitely smarmy exercise in shifting risk and liability off the league and onto the help. He changes the rules midseason to put the onus for player health onto the players themselves. He wages an “ideological” battle to expose the refs to the whims of the market. “It’s ironic that you, the NFL, is what’s screwing this brand up right now,” ESPN analyst Trent Dilfer intoned in the weird aftermath of Monday night’s game, when he and Steve Young and Stuart Scott all started talking like Ralph Nader.

  77. 77.

    1badbaba3

    @ricknro: Probably a good thing you haven’t had to worry about calls going against the Raiders in big games over the past three decades.

  78. 78.

    Spaghetti Lee

    Also, I only have basic cable, so poop on Thursday Night games. If they don’t schedule it so each team only plays one, they should. Did you know the Ravens are playing their 4th game in 18 days tonight? Exactly what is so terrible about having all the games on Sunday?

  83. 83.

    dance around in your bones

    @SFAW: That was a reference to Hermione.

    I linked to the Music Man song in my post at #73.

    Gads, I iz an old.

  86. 86.

    burnspbesq

    My friendly FedEx guy brought me the new Diana Krall and John Hiatt records today. No way the NFL can compete. See y’all later.

    If a Browns win will make our genial host less cranky, then I am for a Browns win. The football match I really care about isn’t until 7:45 a.m. Eastern time on Saturday. C’mon you gooners!

  90. 90.

    Evolving Deep Southerner

    @raven: You’d guess right, though I sure appreciate the invitation. I’ll be in a God damned pew for a God damned wedding in beautiful Wilson, N.C., at 5 p.m. I’ll be able to watch the kickoff and maybe half of the first quarter. Then I’m fucked.

  92. 92.

    raven

    @Evolving Deep Southerner: I have 2 “commitment ceremonies. One at 6pm of the South Carolina game. I now have the DVR so I can do a media blackout and use it to watch the entire game when I flee the festivities @ 7:30. The second one is way the fuck up near Elberton the day of the Auburn game! When we had our wedding party I worked at tech with about 8 gay folks. They didn’t come to our celebration because it was Pride weekend in the ATL. Now I ask you?
    and since I am a fossil I’ll check your answer at 5am!

  93. 93.

    Violet

    THE NFL IS OUR MODERN DAY GLADIATORS AND WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED AT PERFIDY AND INJURIES AND VIOLENCE.

    I cannot be the first to post this, can I? Really? Balloon-Juice commentariat is disappointing.

  95. 95.

    arguingwithsignposts

    I cannot in good conscience watch these NFL games, because although the owners reached an agreement with the referees, they have been horrible on moving teams from town to town blackmailing the public out of taxpayer-financed stadiums. I’m a one-issue watcher like that.

  96. 96.

    Gian

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN):

    it’s not a strike. it was a lockout.

    the owners thought the refs would fold like the players folded in their lockout (like the NFL and NBA players folded in the last year)

    there’s a whole “job creator” greed going on right now and the ownerssimply wanted to fuck the refs ove pensions – and thebasically got their way as the pensions freeze in five years, and won’t be offerred any longer to new hires or anyone after that.

    and it’s not because they can’t afford it, or the refs aren’t worth it, it’s because they’re the job creators so dfuck you

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