That last film noir thread was so much fun, let’s do another! This time, just links to scenes that you like. A lot of the best ones are not available online, or it could just be that my google-fu is very weak. I’ll start (and again, I’ll interpret film noir very loosely):
Casablanca (gin joints).
To have and have not (put your lips together)
Big Sleep (librarian lets her hair down)
Miller’s Crossing (“raised hell”)
Third Man (ending).
Last Seduction (just a lot of scenes of Linda Fiorentino smoking)
Preferably, scenes involving a man and a woman (unless there’s good gay film noir I don’t know about), drinks, cigarettes, and killer lines delivered in a low voice. That’s what’s missing in today’s cinema. Who wants to watch Josh Gordon-Levitt and Zooey Deschanel wank about life over a Boniver sound track? Not me.
SiubhanDuinne
Nobody ever smoked cigarettes like Paul Henreid and Bette Davis in “Now Voyager.” I’m off to look for a clip.
ThresherK
Casablanca is almost nothing but “scenes”. Of course, that goes right into the mogul’s saying “A successful movie has four good scenes and no bad ones”. (No cite, too lazy to search.)
Spousal Unit ThresherK is a big fan of a very famous Hollywood classic, and goes to its conventions regularly. One of the most fun games they have is to have teams “beat the clock” in arranging stills, or quotes, in proper running order.
When someone calls a movie “durable”, I try to imagine a crowd playing that game with it, and assess accordingly.
(Edited.)
Eric
I saw the title and thought this post was about david gregory.
Every scene in casablanca is great. That is why it us my favorite movie ever. There is no second place. Though it would be Seven Samurai if i had to choose.
SiubhanDuinne
“Now Voyager,” smoking (in both senses).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-KGiwGn1d8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Eric
The scene when we first see harry lime in the third man
James mason running scared in Odd man out. Cant find
bago
Has anybody else noticed that John Galt is just an excessively loquacious Eric Cartman? “Screw you guys, I’m going home”.
Seriously, if there is a scheme to profit upon the suffering of others, Eric Cartman is there.
SiubhanDuinne
@ThresherK:
One of the 1939 classics, by any chance?
joeyess
Men, women, smoking and drinking?
The obvious answer is: Who’s Afraid of Virgina Wolff?”.
Mino
Never on a Sunday Melina Mercouri, smoking on a train.
amorphous
Joseph Gordon-Levitt
TBogg
For your gay noir, I submit Bound and I didn’t link to any of the lesbian sex scenes because it is Sunday and I am all Jesus-y like that.
Also, Bound is a terrific film.
Ivan X
D.O.A.
If nothing else, just watch the opening sequence.
Valdivia
That scene from To Have is my all time favorite. Casablanca, all of it, makes me cry.
The scene from Double Indemnity where all you see is her legs (Barbara Stanwick) is pretty classic too. As well as the dance with one glove from Gilda.
Shirt
“Come on, let’s get something to eat. I’ m thirsty” After the Thin Man
policomic
Double Indemnity: “How fast was I going…,” “I wonder if you wonder,” and “murder can sometimes smell like honeysuckle”:
policomic
RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist
(raises hand)
We watched the R. Fiennes Coriolanus last night and it’s fantastic. I really don’t like war movies at all but the combination of story, acting and outstanding cinematography made this brilliant.
ThresherK
@SiubhanDuinne: Yes, one of those from the Great Year.
I wasn’t aware how much a fan until I saw the big collection on the first visit to the apartment. (Not enough to scare me off, though!)
DougJ
@Valdivia:
You’re right about Double Indemnity!
Riilism
Not low voiced, but
My sister, my daughter, my sister, my daughter…
Also qualifies as gay noir…
joeyess
And lest we forget the off-beat indy collection of vignettes: Coffee and Cigarettes.
danah gaz (fka gaz)
Does Happyness count? (NOT happiness)
It’s not strictly film noir period, but I think it contains the essential elements.
Disclaimer: I’m not an film buff, academically speaking.
Also, I’m biased, I like many of the actors in that film, especially Camryn Manheim
RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist
@joeyess:
Iggy, Meg and Jack and the Tesla coil. An oddball wonder.
Corner Stone
I thought the subtext of all good noir was subverted homoeroticism?
Comrade Mary
@amorphous: Actually, I’m taking the “Josh” as an inspired bit of trolling to get someone to link this.
joeyess
@RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist: It certainly was.
ThresherK
@DougJ:
@danah gaz (fka gaz):
If you’ve ever worried when your spouse asks “Honey, do you have enough life insurance”, you may be a film buff.
(*Edited.)
Enrique
@TBogg: I’m glad some got that one in the discussion. Terrific flick!
Persia
JGL reminds me of Brick, which is basically a modern noir. Weird little movie but well worth watching.
DougJ
@Corner Stone:
I think you’re confusing it with good conservatism.
Schlemizel
Mary Astor: I haven’t lived a good life. I’ve been bad, worse than you could know.
Humphrey Bogart: You know, that’s good, because if you actually were as innocent as you pretend to be, we’d never get anywhere.
Humphrey Bogart: Haven’t you tried to buy my loyalty with money and nothing else?
Mary Astor: What else is there I can buy you with?
Humphrey Bogart: I hope they don’t hang you, precious, by that sweet neck. Yes, angel, I’m gonna send you over. The chances are you’ll get off with life. That means if you’re a good girl, you’ll be out in 20 years. I’ll be waiting for you. If they hang you, I’ll always remember you.
MikeJ
in The Maltese Falcon Spade says, “Keep that gunsel away from me while you’re making up your mind. I’ll kill him.” Hammett used the word gunsel knowing his editor wouldn’t know the slang and assume it meant a guy with a gun.
danah gaz (fka gaz)
@danah gaz (fka gaz): Arg.. I got my wires crossed. The movie I meant is Happiness, not Happyness. The link is correct. My spellings were not.
I’m still trying to strike that intentionally misspelled doppelganger from my head. Screw that movie. I’ll never watch it, if nothing else because it stole the title of a movie I liked very much.
ETA: I’m having trouble finding vid links to bits I like. I’m guessing the movie wasn’t incredibly popular.
Mnemosyne
@Riilism:
One of the fun film-geeky things about Chinatown is that when you’ve seen enough noir, you realize that the reason things go so wrong and end so tragically is that Jake has made a terrible mistake — he thinks that Evelyn is the femme fatale when she’s actually the innocent victim. By the time he realizes it (in that scene), it’s too late. The whole scheme Jake’s set up using that assumption plays out and, well …
Anya
On The Waterfront “I could have been a contender.” Some people might disagree with classifying On the Waterfront as a film noir, instead of a classical drama but I am totally on the film noir classification camp.
raven
Touch of Evil
“Do ju know what it eezeee the reeefers
Do ju know what it is the mainliners. . . ”
“You better lay of the candybars. . .”
Frants
Don’t overlook 1957’s Sweet Smell of Success! Tony Curtis and Burt Lancaster firing off dialogue so sharp it cuts to the bone. Feels like a noir about dirty, violent criminals, but instead of criminals, it’s a publicist and a gossip columnist in NYC. Fantastic.
Wag
Blade Runner, rooftop scene.
Valdivia
@SiubhanDuinne:
I absolutely love that movie. See, separated at birth you and I :)
@DougJ:
I think Lane at The New Yorker once did a great piece on Stanwick. If I find it I’ll drop the link. It was a great review of Noir in general.
And here you go: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/04/30/070430fa_fact_lane
Apologies if I already mentioned this article the last time we did Noir.
policomic
Well, I tried to put in a link, there, but I’m too stupid to figure out how. So here it is, if you want to copy and paste it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKdcYnlkhx8
WereBear
@MikeJ: And of course there is, in the same film, Joel Cairo, played by Peter Lorre in a way that removes any doubt.
The stuff that dreams are made of.
And
You’ll get slapped and like it.
And for sheer sadness, there’s nothing like Ida Lupino in High Sierra. Pal played by Humphrey Bogart’s own dog.
Ann Rynd
The Fountainhead. Patricia Neal as Dominique Francon is asked, after having fucked (been raped by) Howard Ruark (Gary Cooper) to reccomend an architect for her father ‘s new building.
“I don’t know any good architects,” she honks smokily through her nostrils. In insane Randian fashion she doesn’t want him to design buildings for swine like her father. Because he is too pure a genius.
An obscure scene from a shitty movie but I adore Neal so much, the voice, the hooded eyes, I cannot forget her.
smintheus
Marie Windsor and Charles McGraw in Narrow Margin.
Doggie D
I think film noir’s best moment evar was when Spike Lee put the underwear over his head and danced on the bed in his groundbreaking movie ‘She’s Got to Have It’. I just love Spike’s little Brooklyn hat.
Trooptrap Tripetrope
I think the closest one can get to gay in film noir might be Humphrey Bogart in The Big Sleep. There’s one scene in which Philip Marlowe, pretending to be a gay book collector, says: “Would you happen to have a Ben-Hur, 1860?” Bogart’s delivery is priceless.
? Martin
Speak for yourself. I’ll gladly spend 2 hours watching Zooey sort her recycling, fishing, mowing the lawn, you name it. Less Josh is welcome though.
Lojasmo
dead man
Ben Franklin
@SiubhanDuinne:
You beat me to it. There is something romantic about unrequited love. A cigar wouldn’t have worked, as well.
red dog
C’mon guys, “The Hustler” scenes with Neal and Newman. Short but classic.
mellowjohn
there’s a lesser bogart film called “dead reckoning” that’s just filled with great lines.
Ben Franklin
@raven:
One of Orson Welles best. If only he hadn’t cast Heston as a Mexican.
Corner Stone
I’ve always thought A Few Good Men was an homage to good gay noir.
Eric
Can i say that bogart is an underappreciated genius. Is it any wonder that half the film noir is a bogie line delivered dripping with snark. There is an interested disintetest in his characters that drives his delivery
joeyess
@red dog: Excellent.
jake the snake
As far as slap-slap-kiss-kiss, how about Richard Widmark slugging Jean Peters in “Pickup On South Street, and later,
Peters cold-cocking Widmark with a beer bottle.
Some critic claimed Pickup was Sam Fuller’s idea of a romantic comedy, and I’m not sure they were wrong.
If may have the best “meet cute” of all time, when Widmark lifts Peters’ wallet on the subway.
red dog
Sorry it should read “Hud” not Hustler
Hungry Joe
Almost every scene in Robert Altman’s “Thieves Like Us.” Keith Carradine, Shelley Duvall, John Schuck, Bert Remsen. From the terrific novel (1937) by Richard Anderson.
Ann Rynd
Another. (Pushing it for noir) The Heiress. The last scene where de Haviland finishes her needlepoint calmly while Montgomery Clift bangs on her door. She flips over the sewing frame, takes her sissors and snips the thread viciously, takes her lamp and goes upstairs, a frighteningly cruel deadness in her face. A scene which won her an Oscar.
LanceThruster
[last lines]
Deckard: [narrating] Gaff had been there, and let her live. Four years, he figured. He was wrong. Tyrell had told me Rachael was special. No termination date. I didn’t know how long we had together… Who does? ~ Blade Runner
LanceThruster
@Wag:
Favorite scene as well, but chose the other cuz the assigment said it was supposed to have broads and/or smoking/drinking in it.
ETA: Just read Rutger Hauer adlibbed the “tears in the rain” part. Brilliant.
quannlace
Hard to beat the first ‘The Thin Man.’ (1934)
Nora Charles: Pretty girl.
Nick Charles: Yes. She’s a very nice type.
Nora Charles: You got types?
Nick Charles: Only you, darling. Lanky brunettes with wicked jaws.
***********
Reporter: Say listen, is he working on a case?
Nora Charles: Yes, he is.
Reporter: What case?
Nora Charles: A case of scotch. Pitch in and help him.
************
I heard they’re doing a remake with Johnny Depp? Jesus, isn’t it enough that he ruined ‘Dark Shadows?’
ThresherK
(Deleted because I can’t find the quotes and don’t trust my memory. But I do remember Hank Quinlan “only framed guilty people”.
Mr Stagger Lee
Pulp Fiction, the scene with John Travolta and Uma Thurmond, at Jack Rabbit/Slims, a cool scene, also as added bonus I liked the scene where Travolta goes to the dealer’s house after Mia Od’s on John’s heroin.
Erik
Great opening scene from Blast of Silence (1961) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6PbJbaDAyk
Sorry for the formatting, it was the only version of the quote I could find.
[Man Narrating] Remembering, out of the black silence…
you were born in pain. – [Woman Gasps]
[Narrator] Easy. Easy does it, little mother.
– We’ve never lost a father. – [Woman Breathing Heavily]
[Narrator] Yourjob is done, little mother. – [Spanks]
[Baby Cries]
[Narrator] You were born with hate and anger built in.
Took a slap on the backside to blast out the scream…
and then you knew you were alive.
Eight pounds, five ounces.
Baby boy Frankie Bono.
Father doing well.
[Train Horn Honks]
Later you learned to hold back the scream…
and let out the hate and anger another way.
You come into Manhattan by dark, whatever time of day it is…
through tunnels, like sewers hidden under the city.
But you don’t mind that. It’s always that way, whatever city it is.
You’re alone. But you don’t mind that.
You’re a loner. That’s the way it should be.
You’ve always been alone.
By now it’s your trademark.
You like it that way.
[Choir] #Silent night #
[Narrator] The railroad company makes sure you don’t forget you’re coming to town on Christmas.
It gives you the creeps.
But that’s all right. Everyone on the goodwill kick, maybe they’ll leave you alone.
You hate cities, especially at Christmas.
joeyess
@red dog: Both films qualify… Hud: Newman/Neal
The Huslter: Newman/Piper Laurie
Erik
The 30 minute heist scene from Jules Dassin’s Rififi from which all other heist scenes have stolen. Also, for 30 minutes there’s no dialogue and unless it was pointed out to you (as I’m doing now) you would never notice. Great stuff, and his other films Thieves Highway, Naked City, and Brute Force aren’t too shabby either. Oh, he was also blacklisted after the HUAC hearings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9bciTbt6l8
Tehanu
L.A. Confidential:
Lynn Bracken: You’re the first man in five years who didn’t tell me I look like Veronica Lake inside of a minute.
Bud White: You look better than Veronica Lake.
Maude
@Ann Rynd:
What a great movie.
Polish the Guillotines
Someone put together this tribute from The Killers. It’s set to “Wicked Game”, which is fitting.
Burt Lancaster and Ava Gardner: Stunningly beautiful people.
Revanch
HAH! I effing hated 500 Days of Summer too. Just a terrible piece of shit that, for unknown reasons, is a 7.9 on IMDB.
I’m pretty convinced that much of modern filmmaking (and fiction writing) largely consists of coming up with a catchy title and then backwardly contriving a (shit) story from that point, all while mining previously well-explored themes and ideas. The Hunger Games, 50 Shades of Grey, 50 Days of Summer, etc etc.
And it’s not just women-focused media, because The Dark Knight Rises was almost completely shit as well, in ways too numerous to state here.
John’s previous comment on The Hunger Games was ridiculously generous for a movie that future generations are sure to regard as an embarrassing and inexplicable relic of their parents’ fucked up lack of taste.
TooManyJens
@Revanch: Knowing where 50 Shades of Grey came from, I can assure you that wasn’t its origin. It used to be Twilight fanfic called “Masters of the Universe” before whats-her-name filed the serial numbers off.
Stephen1947
TBogg beat me to it – Bound is possibly the best film with dyke protagonists ever, and for sure the best film noir in that category.
rikyrah
this is a great thread. thanks. enjoyed it
Hunter Gathers
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
“I’m not bad. I’m just drawn that way.” – Jessica Rabbit
Valdivia
@TooManyJens:
I love knowing that millions of women are reading a book about S&M based on characters from twilight. Cracks me up every time.
Stephen1947
Here’s a clip with my favorite femme fatale – at least she was my favorite until Linda Fiorentino came along…
Tommy D
The tea service scene in “Once Upon a Time in Anatolia” No dialog, mostly reaction shots.
Tom Cahill
Apocolypse Now The Helicopter Attack.
Last of the Mohicans from where Duncan is burned through where Wes Studi os killed. From Here to Eternity the Beach Scene. Star Wars The suns setting scene. CE3K when the Mothershop comes. The Searchers the scene where Ethan knows what is going to happen to his family and realizes he can do nothing about it. Also the final scene. The Right Sstuff (Chuck Yeager in the F-104 while the soundtrack features Clair De Lune, Captains Courageous (Spencer Tracy dying), The Opening shot in a Touch of Evil.
trollhattan
@bago:
Thanks for today’s first spit-take.
I would pay to watch the next AS installment if John Galt had Cartman’s voice.
“Maaaaah! [beep]ing moochers ate my cheezy poofs!”
Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason
How on earth did I miss a movie full of Linda Fiorentino smoking and drinking? I gotta go find “Last Seduction” now.
Joseph Nobles
With a sigh of relief, I can report that Johnny Depp’s remake of The Thin Man is in production limbo right now, may it ever be so.
SiubhanDuinne
@Valdivia:
Yes, as amply demonstrated by this:
Me too me too me too, but especially La Marseillaise scene. But, yeah, the whole thing.
Old Dan and Little Ann
Completely off topic but I just saw this and thought it was too good not to share. The Raging Renegade Grannies singing Legitimate Rape.
SiubhanDuinne
Has anybody mentioned Rebecca yet? I would like to put forward just about every scene with the great Judith Anderson as Mrs. Danvers.
Villago Delenda Est
You know that scene in “It’s a Wonderful Life” where they beat the shit out of old man Potter?
That’s my favorite scene.
Oh, wait. That was an SNL skit.
Can we update it and beat the shit out of Paul Ryan?
John M. Burt
The “Green Bird” scene from the Ballad of Lost Angels episode of Cowboy Bebop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9POYDoHXUX0
One of the most beautiful scenes in all of television and film, no kidding.
Persia
@SiubhanDuinne: Oh, yes. That’s another movie with gay subtext so thick you can cut it.
SiubhanDuinne
@Persia:
You could say that about a LOT of Hitchcock films.
TooManyJens
@Valdivia: It’s not even good fanfic! I read better fanfic than that every day.
Villago Delenda Est
I know it’s not romantic or inspiring, but my favorite scene in Casablanca is the “I’m shocked, shocked!” scene.
rlrr
Welcome to the 2012 Republican National Convention
jayackroyd
@Eric: Well, in the end every post is about David Gregory, isn’t it?
joel hanes
Perhaps relevant
SiubhanDuinne
Okay. Y’all want smoking? Here’s smoking for ya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBjExwMtoaw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
quannlace
Thank the FSM !
SiubhanDuinne
@Villago Delenda Est: it’s a great scene.
Jo
I don’t think anyone would classify it as film noir, since it’s too early (1930), but Marlene Dietrich’s cross-dressing scene in Morocco is very queer, and it does include some sexy cigarette smoking.
Valdivia
@TooManyJens:
I haven’t read it but I can imagine! It delights me that this book proves that Twilight was a book for married women pining for romance. Now they get to read it again only with more secsy time and all that the s&m scene entails.
@SiubhanDuinne:
Ah the Marseillese scene also, too. And Rebecca. Of course!
Andrew J. Lazarus
90 comments and no one has mentioned Laura yet??
Sawgrass Stan
It’s raining like hell down here, thanks to Isaac. It’s a great afternoon for film noir.
Great lines from “Out of The Past” w/ Janet Greer and Robert Mitchum:
JG: I never though about anything but how much I hated him, but I didn’t take anything, Jim. Don’t you believe me?”
RM: “Baby, I don’t care..,” (samooooch…)
HI
Еlevаtоr to the Gаllоws
rlrr
@Andrew J. Lazarus:
I’m guessing you don’t mean this Laura…
Seanly
Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid
(kinda kidding)
Sawgrass Stan
Damn, what happened to the link to the Out of The Past scene? try again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=836c59itcOk&feature=related
cbear
Treasure of the Sierra Madre which could be retitled as Treasure of the Goopers in Tampa:
Howard/Reince Preibus: Hey you fellas, how ’bout some beans? You want some beans? Goin’ through some mighty rough country tomorrow, you’d better have some beans.
___________________________________________________
Fred C. Dobbs: Say, mister. Will you stake a fellow American to a meal?
American/Mitt Romney in Tampico in white suit: Such impudence never came my way. Early this afternoon I gave you money… while I was having my shoes polished I gave you MORE money… now you put the bite on me again. Do me a favor, will ya? Go occasionally to somebody else – it’s beginning to get tiresome.
Fred C. Dobbs: Ah, excuse me, mister, I never knowed it was you. I never looked at your face – I just looked at your hands and the money you gave me. Beg pardon, mister, I promise I’ll never put the bite on you again.
American/Mitt Romney in Tampico in white suit: [gives him a peso] This is the very last you get from me. Just to make sure you don’t forget your promise, here’s another peso.
[puts another peso in Dobbs’ hand]
Fred C. Dobbs: Thanks, mister. Thanks.
American/Mitt Romney in Tampico in white suit: But from now on, you’ll have to make your way through life without my assistance.
___________________________________________________
Dobbs: Nobody puts one over on Fred C. Dobbs.
___________________________________________________
Gold Hatewt Gingrich/N: Badges? We ain’t got no badges. We don’t need no badges. I don’t have to show you any stinking badges.
____________________________________________________
Howard/Lindsey Graham: If I were you boys, I wouldn’t talk or even think about women. T’aint good for your health.
____________________________________________________
Dobbs: You two guys musta been born in a revival meeting.
_____________________________________________________
Dobbs: Conscience. What a thing. If you believe you got a conscience it’ll pester you to death. But if you don’t believe you got one, what could it do t’ya? Makes me sick, all this talking and fussing about nonsense.
______________________________________________________
Fred C. Dobbs: Any more lip out of you and I’ll haul off and let you have it. If you know what’s good for you, you won’t monkey around with Fred C. Dobbs.
Sawgrass Stan
@cbear: cbear–
I like it, but who plays Dobbs?
dewzke
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38
Not my opinion, but good stuff.
Downpuppy
The Grifters has a half dozen killer scenes.
Bobo & the oranges, the slab, the baseball bat, Mamma tried…
Maybe too many.
quannlace
‘The Petrified Forest’ (When Duke Mantee first enters the diner.)
cbear
@Sawgrass Stan: I dunno, but in some scenes he could be Rick Santorum:
(discussing Fred Thompson)
Bob Curtin: Remember what you said back in Tampico about having to carry that old man on our backs?
Fred C. Dobbs: That was when I took him for an ordinary human being, not part goat.
____________________________________________________
And Rush Limbaugh could definitely play Howard:
(speaking to Mitt and Ryan)
Howard: Without me, you two would die here, more miserable than rats.
RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist
I’ve seen all the Thin Man films and liked them. Mostly because Myrna Loy was my type. Yowza!
But they’re not The Gospels. I’m fine with remakes of them, even merely adequate ones. The originals were good fun, not high art. If Johnny Depp’s fans get to have that fun again 60+ years later that’s OK.
trollhattan
O/T Is Kaplan’s editors learnin’?
Current WaPo website front page headline:
Garage-eating pigs, how the f*ck do they work?
Steeplejack
Has no one here seen Romeo Is Bleeding? A great, true noir with Gary Oldman and Lena Olin.
Best line: “With . . . or without?” Can’t find a clip of that–or any decent clips, really–so here’s the trailer.
Steeplejack
@John M. Burt:
Cowboy Bebop is a great series all the way through. One of the few that I coughed up the bucks to get on DVD.
Livy
So it looks like Romney and the Super PACs are going to massively outspend Obama during the rest of the election, perhaps on the order of 100s of millions of dollars.
Thoughts?
MikeJ
More gay noire:
To Live and Die in LA
You’re not wired are you? Is this my package?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhjVk3e_qoc
Jim Faith
The Usual Suspects – Verbal Kent leaves the police station and his limp turns into a normal gait. He gets in the Jag with Kobayashi and drives off – never to be heard from again
kelly
Romeo is Bleeding; Lena Olin with her legs wrapped around Gary Oldman’s neck in the car!
WaterGirl
@Valdivia: @TooManyJens: I haven’t read the book, but how can something be about s&m and people don’t know it?
Reklam
@Sawgrass Stan: Great choice. Even though this movie is considered a classic, I think it still gets underrated.
Dennis SGMM
Gay noir? How about Peter Lorre’s first scene in Maltese Falcon?
Valdivia
@WaterGirl:
since I haven’t read the book I have no idea. The reviews and comments I have seen do seem to acknowledge that there is an s&m element in the narrative, but I imagine it is nothing like The Story of O, or other classics of the genre. Probably soft pedaled enough that no one actually calls it that in the book?
Amir Khalid
@trollhattan:
Alas, the headline has now been correctified.
TooManyJens
@WaterGirl: As far as I’m aware, people do know it. Like Valdivia said, they probably don’t call it that, but the whole deal with
EdwardChristian becomingBella’sAna’s master is pretty widely known.Reklam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFMY4jJ6SVE
“Huh, that’s why you shoot’em? Cause there’s not that many left?”
Dennis SGMM
Above the Dots, from The Third Man. Reminds me of GOP thinking.
Valdivia
@TooManyJens: saw what you did there :)
raven
@MikeJ: My brother in law was in that. He had a trucking company out of LAX and he got to drive his rig in one of the chase scenes.
MikeJ
I’ll add another topic. Edroso announced his nuptialization on his blog today. IN the comments I suggested that the regular wedding music be replaced with Reverb Motherfuckers’ “Love Juice (in all 3 holes)”.
Which made me wonder if anyone had compiled a list of songs that are very direct requests for affection. Like “Rabbit” by the Lemonheads (“I’d like to stick my carrot into you” is a great line.)
Perhaps “All I Wanna do is Fuck Your Hair” by the Judybats.
WereBear
@Steeplejack: One of the best movie openings EVER.
WaterGirl
@TooManyJens: Huh. I will have to check with my niece who first mentioned the book to me. I didn’t see twilight, and I just thought the book was some recent soft porn. Clearly I don’t get out enough!
Mike in NC
@trollhattan:
Headline in our local Sunday paper: “GOP Evolving with Romney”. Begs the question: can people who don’t believe in evolution actually evolve?
WereBear
And a hearty recommend is the Robert Mitchum and Jane Russell classic, His Kind of Woman. Raymond Burr as the gangster, Vincent Price as the comic foil, John Farrow directed and one of the most harrowing impending mayhem scenes put to film in that era.
Great dialogue:
Mitchum: I’m too young to die. How about you?
Price: Too well-known.
Price: Well, what did you think of the picture?
Russell: Oh, it was fine. It was just a little long – about an hour and a half.
Russell: They tell me you killed Ferraro. How did it feel?
Mitchum: He didn’t say.
Stoic
Out of the Past (final 10 minutes)
trollhattan
@Amir Khalid:
Not before I got a screen grab. :-)
TooManyJens
@WaterGirl: The thing is, when it was Twilight fic, it was an AU (alternate universe) story, where the author takes the characters and puts them in a different situation. So if you then also change the character names, there isn’t necessarily much to connect it back to Twilight — I gather that Edward and Bella are not such strongly defined characters that you can tell who they are even with names changed and in an alternate universe where they have careers in business. So it’s not surprising you didn’t see Twilight in it.
I feel ridiculous knowing this — I was never even in Twilight fandom! But word gets around. :)
trollhattan
@Mike in NC:
“GOP Intelligently[sic] Redesigning Selves to Share Operating System with Mittbot”?
trollhattan
re. The OP: “Body Heat.”
I still flash on it when the windchimes clang.
WaterGirl
@TooManyJens: Well, that helps explain things. Thanks
TooManyJens
@quannlace: My favorite quote from The Thin Man, when the police detective is searching in Nick and Nora’s bedroom and finds Nick’s gun:
Detective: Ever heard of the Solomon Act?
Nora: Oh it’s all right, officer, we’re married.
And the look Nick gives her, sort of a cross between “I can’t believe you said that” and “This is why I love you.”
Speaking (broadly) of gay noir and Thin Man remakes, the Donald Strachey series of mysteries has been billed as a “gay Nick and Nora.” I wouldn’t go that far, but they’re decent, and Donald and Timmy are totally charming.
Dennis SGMM
The “You tell him I’m coming scene” from the overlooked “The Limey.”
raven
@Dennis SGMM: Bad ass flick.
raven
We’re off to see the french paralysis movie. I hate that shit, will report.
RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist
My wife & her fam are at Batman at the moment. I actively decided to skip that because of the violence. It just disturbs me too much and I can’t enjoy the movie. I’ll skip the sitting in the dark staring at the wall in silence and meet them after for dinner.
Michelle from Chicago
The double entendre scene from Double Indemnity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz-5wKegyOw
“There’s a speed limit in this town, Mr. Neff…..”
gogol's wife
@Eric:
You think Bogart is underappreciated? I mean, I love him, but he’s pretty darn appreciated!
gogol's wife
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason:
If you’re a Linda Fiorentino fan, you had better get to it! I can’t believe you haven’t seen it!
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@WaterGirl: What absolutely floored me at Target yesterday was seeing “The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty” and “Beauty’s Punishment” being sold next to Fifty Shades of Gray.
Cermet
The best line in Casablanca is when Ilsa (Ingrid Bergman) ask’s someone who the ‘boy’ is at the piano (in reference to Sam (Dooley Wilson a very adult black man!)Wow – that just was over the top stupid for the writers – an adult black man can’t be called ”gentleman or man’ by a white woman!
Sawgrass Stan
This isn’t really a love scene, except that I love it. From Don Siegel’s 1964 remake of “The Killers”–
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MfqhByIba4&feature=related
John Cassavetes slugs Reagan! (c’mon– you know you want to!)
“I approve of larceny; homicide is against my principles.” Jack Browning (Ronald Reagan)
Sly
L.A. Confidential: “Is that how you used to run the ‘good cop, bad cop?'”
DougJ
@RossInDetroit, Rational Subjectivist:
I’m with you.
Patricia Kayden
“Gaslight” starring Ingrid Bergman and Joseph Cotton – 1944 version. The part where she figures out what her husband is up to is pretty cool. You can find a few clips on Youtube.
WaterGirl
@Belafon (formerly anonevent): Anne Rice = vampire = 50 shades of grey?
steve
About that scene from The Big Sleep: first of all, that’s a bookstore, not a library. Second, that scene is utterly ludicrous. In the novel, Marlowe simply goes into the bookstore, asks his question, gets an answer, and leaves. The only women who throw themselves at Chandler’s Marlowe are drunks, and Marlowe has far too much dignity and self-respect to indulge them. This version of The Big Sleep turns Marlowe into a hopeless horndog — sort of a film noir version of James T. Kirk. And the idea that this intelligent, articulate bookstore owner would CLOSE HER SHOP in order to screw a random customer is idiotic.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
the best sentence I’ve read in a while, and hear hear. Gonna skim through the thread and look for some foreign noir.
DougJ
@steve:
But it was Humphrey Bogart.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Thanks!
srv
What’s missing is a final scene like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P56P25AVK8Y
Mitchum and Jean Simmons in Angel Face
Rich2506
The Big Sleep scene reminds me of a practical, brunette Scotswoman I worked with named Lonnie. She was usually accompanied by a silly blonde friend whose name I don’t recall. I was moderately attracted to Lonnie, but on the last day we worked together, she ditched her usual frilly, feminine outfits and wore a pantsuit instead. I thought “Oh, Lonnie! You’re a babe!”
*Sigh,* we never saw each other after that.
Vikram
Out of the Past…just one of the best noirs evah!
Taxi driver to Jeff Bailey ( played by Robert Mitchum, about the woman the driver was supposed to tail) –
“Jeff, I lost her.”
RM – “She’s worth losing..”
phoebes-in-santa fe
Okay, maybe it’s not film noir, but it’s a conversation from one of the funniest movies ever – “A New Leaf”. All parts of the conversation are said in complete deadpan.
Said by rich woman Gloria Cunliffe at a luncheon while introducing the Walter Matthau character to a table of strangers:
“I’d like you to meet Dr and Mrs Daryl Hitler”.
Asked by Matthau:”Excuse me, you’re not by any chance related to the Boston Hitlers? ”
Reply by Dr Hitler:
“No, we’re from Glen Cove”.
jake the snake
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: Worth your time. if for nothing else, Linda flashing those “china doorknobs” (credit to Fritz Leiber).
Tom The First
This scene from Force of Evil has alway been one of my favorites. Scorsese is a big fan and you can see how this may have inspired his “Joe Pesci facing the camera and firing a gun” shot from Goodfellas.
DougJ
@Rich2506:
Great story.
Groucho48
Another Thin Man quote…
“Marion: I don’t like crooks. And if I did like ’em, I wouldn’t like crooks that are stool pigeons. And if I did like crooks that are stool pigeons, I still wouldn’t like you. ”
Cape Fear, the Robert Mitchum character…
“Granddaddy used to handle snakes in church, Granny drank strychnine. I guess you could say I had a leg up, genetically speaking. ”
Another lesbian noirish type film, maybe not quite as good a movie, but, just as hot was Wild Side, with Anne Heche and Joan Chen. The Director’s Cut is by far the better version. Hard to find, though.
“You always said you’d take a bullet for me. Here, take three. “
Isaac
My wife and I have been on a huge classic noir kick. It turns out, there’s a lot of lesser-known gems reading available on netflix instant. So that plus the occasional rental really does us some good. For my suggested scene, I’m going to have to go with the nightclub scene from “odds against tomorrow,” which features two songs written by Harry Belafonte, who starred in and produced the film. One song has him on vocals, the other has ex-vaudeville star Mae Barnes, who introduced America to the Charleston:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFd3u8mCb_U
Odds Against Tomorrow is wonderful. I highly recommend it.
Ed Drone
Kiss of Death (1947) — Tommy Udo pushes that “lying old woman” down the stairs. Richard Widmark at his best.
Ed