Seckystime in the Sea of Galilee

Speaking of Israel:

The FBI probed a late-night swim in the Sea of Galilee that involved drinking, numerous GOP freshmen lawmakers, top leadership staff – and one nude member of Congress, according to more than a dozen sources, including eyewitnesses.

During a fact-finding congressional trip to the Holy Land last summer, Rep. Kevin Yoder (R-Kan.) took off his clothes and jumped into the sea, joining a number of members, their families and GOP staff during a night out in Israel, the sources told POLITICO. Other participants, including the daughter of another congressman, swam fully clothed while some lawmakers partially disrobed. More than 20 people took part in the late-night dip in the sea, according to sources who took part in the trip.

“A year ago, my wife, Brooke, and I joined colleagues for dinner at the Sea of Galilee in Israel. After dinner I followed some Members of Congress in a spontaneous and very brief dive into the sea and regrettably I jumped into the water without a swimsuit,” Yoder said in a statement to POLITICO. “It is my greatest honor to represent the people of Kansas in Congress and [for] any embarrassment I have caused for my colleagues and constituents, I apologize.”

Travis Smith, Yoder’s chief of staff, told POLITICO “Neither Congressman Yoder, nor his staff, have been interviewed by the FBI.”

These GOP sources confirmed the following freshmen lawmakers also went swimming that night: Rep. Steve Southerland (R-Fla.) and his daughter; Rep. Tom Reed (R-N.Y.) and his wife; Reps. Ben Quayle (R-Ariz.), Jeff Denham (R-Calif.) and Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.). Many of the lawmakers who ventured into the ocean said they did so because of the religious significance of the waters. Others said they were simply cooling off after a long day. Several privately admitted that alcohol may have played a role in why some of those present decided to jump in.

I gotta admit, I too have had a few drinks and gone skinny-dipping. The big difference was that I was in college and not a member of Congress and certainly not on an official government trip.

I’m just going to end this post now, because whatever I say will pale in comparison to the awesomeness that TBOGG will bring to this issue tomorrow.






195 replies
  1. 1
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Story just hit the AJC. One of the comments about Yoder was “He has nothing to hide.”

    I kind of wish I’d said that.

  2. 2
    Punchy says:

    GOP, the party of Family Values(TM).

  3. 3
    SFAW says:

    Tomorrow? Hell, it’s only dinner time where TBogg lives, I would hope he would address this forthwith, and not be such a slacker, etc., etc.

  4. 4
    poco says:

    Maybe they thought it was the Dead Sea??

    Can we have a FP about Josh Trevino being hired by the Guardian?

  5. 5
    mechwarrior online says:

    I don’t think this is a big deal, just as the secret service partying was not a big deal. One of the draws of government service that sends you overseas is partying it up like a wild animal. Hell it’s a selling point in many military services.

    In global development we are having a hard time because we are hiring more locals and sending less “save the world” young types jet setting to party hard in other countries, and they are upset since that kills off the fun in it.

  6. 6
    Hal says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Story just hit the AJC. One of the comments about Yoder was “He has nothing to hide.”

    Someone might want to introduce Yoder to Gary Hart.

    After dinner I followed some Members of Congress in a spontaneous and very brief dive into the sea and regrettably I jumped into the water without a swimsuit

    I love how he says that as if it was an oversight. “Oh darn, I totally forgot to out clothes on!”

  7. 7
    Hunter Gathers says:

    I think it goes without saying that Jesus won’t be walking on those waters anytime soon.

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    Violet says:

    During a fact-finding congressional trip

    So glad to know our tax money is paying for their naked midnight swims.

  9. 9
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    I gotta admit, I too have had a few drinks and gone skinny-dipping. The big difference was that I was in college and not a member of Congress and certainly not on an official government trip with colleague’s daughters present.

    I kind of wonder what collegial relations are like between Rep. Southerland and and Rep. Yoder. Or for that matter, what Mrs. Yoder thought about it.

  10. 10
    muddy says:

    Seckystime is doubly misspelled. I appreciate your effort to make it seem less sickening though.

  11. 11
    Maude says:

    Mixed company.
    Too bad no one snapped a photo as they walked to the lake.

  12. 12
    AnonReader says:

    @mechwarrior online: In global development we are having a hard time because we are hiring more locals and sending less “save the world” young types jet setting to party hard in other countries, and they are upset since that kills off the fun in it.

    To be fair, the low salaries involved in working for some global development non-profits mean that you have to provide some compensation in the form of “cool.” And if you can’t do that, they might as well get jobs as accountants, which at least will afford them the ability to rent an apartment without roommates.

  13. 13
    JPL says:

    Although it’s interesting that the family value guys would skinny dip, don’t forget iokiyar.

  14. 14
    sb says:

    Several privately admitted that alcohol may have played a role in why some of those present decided to jump in.

    It may have played a role? I hope it goes without saying that if democrats did this, we’d never, ever hear the end of it.

  15. 15
    Jeremy Saperstein says:

    Interesting that this story came out this weekend as well.

  16. 16
    Rommie says:

    @Hal: Sounds like the old WKRP opening come to life: “but the senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity.” Har har.

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    Shalimar says:

    I’ll take “Things Congressmen do that are much less harmful than all the evil shit” for 400, Alex.

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    Frank the Tank says:

    Sources would not confirm reports that Yoder yelled “we’re going up to the quad and through the gymnasium” before asking if KFC is still open.

  20. 20
    jwb says:

    @lamh35: The national GOP didn’t want him in the first place, so it’s no surprise that they are using this to try pushing him out.

  21. 21
    Maude says:

    @lamh35:
    His remarks went around the world on Twitter.

  22. 22
    lamh35 says:

    @lamh35: wow. issuing a 2nd statement ’cause the first was not good enough is surely NOT “winning”.

    Akin Clarifies Comments On Twitter: ‘Rape Can Result In Pregnancy’

  23. 23
    taylormattd says:

    Come with Me to the sea of Galilee; come with Me, come apart with Me.

    Come with Me, leave the multitude; come with Me to a place of solitude.

    Come with Me, watch and pray. Come with Me for soon I go:

    But I will leave My spirit to guide and comfort you,

    And I will come again for you.

    [yes, yes, I resisted substituting the word “cum” in these verses. Will save that for Wonkette.]

  24. 24
    Patricia Kayden says:

    @lamh35: That’s good. But isn’t he leading McCaskill in the polls anyways?

  25. 25
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @lamh35:

    NO! he must absolutely NOT resign until Charles P. Pierce has a chance to write his column tomorrow. Don’t harsh Charlie’s mellow, Akin!

  26. 26
    👽 Martin says:

    @efgoldman: Breach of protocol? US official delegation goes off and acts like a bunch of college kids in another country? That’s a legitimate problem. Same with the Secret Service thing.

    If this happened in the US, I don’t think anyone would have cared.

  27. 27
    Violet says:

    @lamh35: Maybe he’ll be damaged goods and if the Republicans try to replace him, they’ll not only look disorganized and weak, but risk the wrath of the teabaggers who voted him in.

    Let’s hope for a protracted fight and lots of media coverage of the situation.

  28. 28
    JPL says:

    Let’s be honest, it’s not like they walked on water where they could let it all hang out.

  29. 29
    Punchy says:

    @lamh35: Holy fucking shit……

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    geg6 says:

    College, Cole? Hell, I haven’t done anything so juvenile and stupid as skinny dipping since high school. And even then, I only did it because I was a lifeguard at our local private club and six of us young and stupids closed up at night. Skinny dipping and alcohol (and perhaps some fine green bud) may have been involved, but we ranged in age from 16 to 18 fucking years old and we weren’t doing it on the tax payers’ dime nor did we do it with our own fucking children. these people are some sick mother fuckers.

  31. 31
    Davis X. Machina says:

    …and one nude member of Congress,

    Heh. He said ‘member’….

  32. 32
    JPL says:

    Todd Akin is a creep link

  33. 33
    👽 Martin says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: They’re not going to push him out. MO-Sen was one of the GOPs best pickup opportunities. Until the polls show him losing, he’s going to stay in. If they decide MO is a lost cause, then they’ll push him out ‘out of principle’.

  34. 34
    lamh35 says:

    Also, surprising no one, Romney/Ryan issues the usual “tepid” statement.

    Romney: ‘We Disagree’ With Akin

    Romney/Ryan Replies
    The Romney campaign has now issued what sounds like a relatively tepid statement saying the team ‘disagrees’ with Akin and would note oppose abortion in cases of rape.

  35. 35

    But when Jesus did it, I’ll bet he didn’t say, “Hey, guys, watch this!”

  36. 36
    Violet says:

    @lamh35: And the Romney campaign responds:

    Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign said late Sunday night that Romney and Paul Ryan “disagree” with Rep. Todd Akin’s (R-MO) Sunday comments claiming women who are victims of “legitimate rape” have biology that prevents them from getting pregnant.
    __
    “Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin’s statement. A Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape,” the campaign said in a statement confirmed by TPM.

    They disagree? It’s a fact. It’s either true or not true. You don’t get to “disagree” with facts. Unless you’re a wingnut, I guess.

  37. 37
    mechwarrior online says:

    @AnonReader:

    I’m talking about people that pull 80-120k.

    Most of the people in the field are young women from rich families with trust funds anyways. Who brag about the “lack of a paycheck” as a way to show they are committed to saving the world all while marrying high powered K street types who pay for the fancy house. Those who aren’t married almost always have their parents money to play around with.

    The complaints about the pay are bullshit, unless you want a two million dollar condo and a boat at the club. Those who really want it just get mom and dad to buy it for them.

  38. 38
    geg6 says:

    @Violet:

    Well, I’ll say this, it shows that Ryan is as much a liar and flip flopped as Rmoney. Until today and this very statement, Ryan opposed abortion under all circumstances, including rape and incest.

  39. 39
    lamh35 says:

    @Violet: the pro-life/christianist/Palin-ite crowd sure ain’t gonna like that will they.

    I expect a walk-back by AM or noon tomorrow.

  40. 40
    Spatula says:

    Cole, why is this an issue?

    Some people went swimming late at night. Are you really trying to imply legitimate outrage that someone went skinny dipping? Skinny dipping is awesome.

    Call me when photographs from an orgy are available. Then we’ll talk.

    This is stupid and reeks of Republican style faux panty sniffing.

  41. 41
    geg6 says:

    Help! FYWP! I used the term for having sex with a close relative and I’m being persecuted!

  42. 42
    Spaghetti Lee says:

    Why would anyone be mad about this? The more time they spend not making laws, the better.

  43. 43
    Spaghetti Lee says:

    Akin question: If he does leave/get forced out of the race, who replaces him? Would it be the second-place primary finisher, or would it be like an Alan Keyes thing where the GOP just grabs for the nearest warm object? I don’t think I’ve saved up enough karma for this to happen, but a man can dream, can’t he?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @JPL: Hahaha

  45. 45
    The Dangerman says:

    Hey, I can relate; it sucks when I forget to pack my swimsuit.

  46. 46
    R. Porrofatto says:

    Always great to have an excuse to link this bit of Ben Quayle awesomeness. “Somebody has to go to Washington and knock the hell out of the place.”

  47. 47
    Spatula says:

    @geg6:

    Hell, I haven’t done anything so juvenile and stupid as skinny dipping since high school.

    Could you explain in detail how skinny dipping is juvenile and stupid?

    My god, the stick up the ass church lady attitude among the BJ commetariat on this issue alone explains a lot. Standard uptight American prudishness.

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    JGabriel says:

    __
    __
    Politico:

    Many of the lawmakers who ventured into the ocean said they did so because of the religious significance of the waters.

    I like how Politico substitutes the word “lawmakers” for “Republicans”.

    Also, being Republicans and drunk, I’ll bet dollars to donuts that some those guys pee’d in that religiously significant water.

    ETA: Tell me again why Likud wants to team up with the GOP? I’d think they’d be embarrassed to be seen with this crew.

    .

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    evodevo says:

    Eewwwww!!! This is going to require at least a gallon of brain bleach …..

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    arguingwithsignposts says:

    @mechwarrior online:

    In global development we are having a hard time because we are hiring more locals and sending less “save the world” young types jet setting to party hard in other countries, and they are upset since that kills off the fun in it.

    You know what, if that’s what people think of as a “hard time,” then fuck them. Global development isn’t meant for you to get your damned rocks off partying in exotic locales.

  51. 51
    Tom65 says:

    Neither Congressman Yoder, nor his staff, have been interviewed by the FBI.

    Presumably no one at the FBI wanted to interview Rep. Yoder’s staff.

    /obviousjoke

  52. 52
    Rupert says:

    @Spatula: How big does the stick need to be for the FBI to have been called in? And why didn’t the FBI just laugh in the face of whoever thought this should be investigated?

  53. 53
    GregB says:

    Romney spokes Rick Gorka, when asked for a comment about reports of drunk antics and nudity by Republicans in the Sea of Galilee responded:

    This is a holy site, kiss my ass.

  54. 54
    Violet says:

    @lamh35: Nah, most of the forced pregnancy crowd supports exceptions for rape or insest. They’re mostly in support of slut-shaming. If the drunk college girl gets pregnant, she should have to have the baby. That kind of thing. Sure there are hardcore folks, but most of them are a little less strict. Which, of course means they’re pro-choice. It’s just that their line for where the choice should be is different from mine.

  55. 55
    Tara the Antisocial Social Worker says:

    I don’t wanna read the words “nude member of Congress.” Or even think about them. Ew.

  56. 56
    Spatula says:

    @Rupert:

    You’re OK with the FBI being called to investigate skinny dipping? Who called them and why?

    So you’re proposing there was a national security or criminal angle to this shocking swimming incident?

  57. 57
    General Stuck says:

    Looks like Saint Paul was all for corporate welfare bailouts, before he was against them. At least for GM plant in his own district.

    The aging plant was to stop production by Christmas — unless Ryan and other Wisconsin officials could save it.

    Ryan, then the ranking Republican on the House Budget Committee, flew to Detroit to cajole GM executives. For more than an hour, he and other officials made a PowerPoint proposal that mixed union concessions with unprecedented state and local tax breaks for GM.

    That was Superman that done that. Clark Kent did this.

    Two years later, as chairman of the budget committee, Ryan became known for another PowerPoint presentation — a slide show on the federal government’s ballooning debt. In that pitch, Ryan touted his budget plan, which includes a vow to “end corporate welfare.”

    Just another tricky day on Planet Wingnut

  58. 58
    arguingwithsignposts says:

    @Tom65: {golf clap}

  59. 59
    John Cole says:

    Cole, why is this an issue?

    Some people went swimming late at night. Are you really trying to imply legitimate outrage that someone went skinny dipping? Skinny dipping is awesome.

    I have no problem with people skinny dipping. I have a slight problem with congressional delegations on diplomatic missions getting liquored in a foreign country then dropping trou in a holy site.

    Imagine an Israeli delegation streaking at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and then get back to me.

    But I know you only post to troll here and let us all know we are prudes.

  60. 60
    Irving says:

    …um, so? I just got back from Pennsic, where the Classic Swimming Hole is an institution.

  61. 61
    Irving says:

    …um, so? I just got back from Pennsic, where the Classic Swimming Hole is an institution.

  62. 62
    arguingwithsignposts says:

    @John Cole: Is he about to tell us how it’s okay for coaches to shower with young boys?

    ETA: Or is this another of the perma-trolls. I think I lost track.

  63. 63
    geg6 says:

    @Spatula:

    It’s juvenile and stupid to do something like this in public, with your own child, when you are a representative of a large number of people, when you are representing your country in a foreign land, when you are in the public eye, when you’re old enough to know better, and when you choose to run around drunk and naked with your own child, regardless of that child’s age. It’s inappropriate in just about every way possible. And that’s without even bringing up their prudishness and utter condemnation of people who have secksytime in the privacy of their own homes.

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    dmsilev says:

    For a bunch of avowedly devout Christians, they sure did demonstrate a lot of respect for one of Christianity’s sacred sites.

    Also, too, am I the only one who keeps reading the story as ‘Congressman Yoda’? Because the thought of Yoda skinny-dipping is just wrong.

  65. 65
    Ed in NJ says:

    @Spatula:

    Are you being willfully stupid or trying to troll us?

    This is embarrassing behavior by U.S. Reps in a foreign country. Is there any chance it wouldn’t be criticized in conservative circles if they were Dems?

    This should be hung around the necks of each of these during election season. They embarrassed the country. The FBI needed to be called in to investigate. They don’t deserve to remain in office.

  66. 66
    dance around in your bones says:

    Oh, please.

    I don’t give a flying fuck what people do with their secksytime (as long as they are not trying to restrict others)…….

    Ok. Good Dog, I am just tired of this shit. No wonder Cole just shows up once in a while….I’d prolly blow my brains out.

    Says she who just got served two delicioso fish tacos whilst reclining on her bed.

  67. 67
    JordanRules says:

    Meh. Skinny dipping is fun. Call me juvenile. *kanye shrug*

  68. 68
    GregB says:

    This does bring to mind the old chestnut about Senator Howell Heflin, Democrat from Alabama:

    From Wiki:

    “Upon seeing photos in the National Enquirer showing U.S. Senator Edward M. Kennedy copulating with an unknown woman on the deck of Kennedy’s boat, he was said to have noted that he was glad Senator Kennedy had “changed his position on offshore drilling”.”

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    Xecky Gilchrist says:

    @muddy: Seckystime is doubly misspelled.

    And the term is hideously overused anyway. It stopped being funny in about ’05.

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    scav says:

    @efgoldman: Probably has nothing to do with getting the skinny on the dip, but with drinking and unscheduled behavior, there may be some security issues involved.

  71. 71
    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    Politics is wierd, and creepy.

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    Citizen Alan says:

    @efgoldman:

    Personally, I would hope that the FBI would investigate drunken skinnydipping in the presence of minor children, but that’s just me.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    OK, FYWP wouldn’t let me edit my comment.

    But I have to say I have never been shocked by a naked wienie – even when on a Greyhound bus. A fellow passenger whipped his out and asked me what I thought, and I said “Looks like about 5 or 6 inches to me”.

    He tucked it back in kinda pronto.

  74. 74
    Spatula says:

    @John Cole:

    But I know you only post to troll here and let us all know we are prudes.

    Fuck you, schizophrenic douche. Most of your front page posts, like this one, are designed to troll your reactionary fan base.

    I don’t believe for a minute that you, with your background, think skinny dipping where this took place is akin to streaking the tomb of the unknown.

    Although your latent prudishness and fondness for authoritarianism does explain your right wing “background,” much of which you have retained but slapped a new tribal label on.

    But then, maybe you’re just drunk again. It is past 10am.

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    jheartney says:

    As I came upon this post, the number of comments was “69.” (Beavis and Butthead giggle.)

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    Spatula says:

    @Ed in NJ:

    omg.

    you are a pompous ass.

    hahaha…wow

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    srv says:

    This is a spoof right? Who the fuck cares who swims where? FBI has to investigate swimmigng… sheesh.

  78. 78
    Hal says:

    The Akin mess reminds me of Rachel Maddow’s segment a couple of weeks ago regarding the CO Senate race and how the Republican candidate turned out to be so extreme on abortion that he blew his chances at winning. I wonder if we are looking at a similar circumstance along the Christine O’Donnell Sharon Angle Ken Buck.

    Oh, also on Ken Buck:

    The tape, which Greeley police had the victim record during their investigation, was available before Buck made his decision not to prosecute the woman’s admitted rapist. According to a following article in the Independent, “Buck’s refusal to prosecute 2005 rape case reverberates in U.S. Senate race,” [8] the reporter provides a transcript of another tape of a conversation between the woman and Buck, in which “Buck appears to all but blame her for the rape and tells her that her case would never fly with a Weld County jury.”
    “A jury could very well conclude that this is a case of buyer’s remorse,” he told the Greeley Tribune in 2006.[9]

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    Poopyman says:

    Just FYI, here’s a pic of Steve Southerland’s family, including his three daughters.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Spatula:

    Oh hell, Kitchen Implement, go flip yourself. Your obsession with Cole is…………creepy and…………ya know, creepy.

    Get a boyfriend, dude.

  81. 81
    Spatula says:

    @srv:

    This is a spoof right? Who the fuck cares who swims where? FBI has to investigate swimmigng… sheesh.

    Exactly. Either Cole is nakedly trolling, or like many wild and irresponsible young men he is turning into a boring and prudish old geezer.

    Or both.

  82. 82
    Hal says:

    @Spatula:

    Fuck you, schizophrenic douche. Most of your front page posts, like this one, are designed to troll your reactionary fan base.

    How do you troll your own blog? Also, isn’t a blog all about your opinions and things you like or are interested in?

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    arguingwithsignposts says:

    @Spatula: So, nothing to do on a Sunday night, eh?

  84. 84
    Spatula says:

    @dance around in your bones:

    Could you explain in what way I am OBSESSED with Cole?

    Thanks.

    P.S. I doubt he really requires your sychopantic, ass kissing assistance.

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    Joel says:

    That picture is vom worthy.

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    sharl says:

    Well shoot, this ain’t nothin’ for goopers. Like hormone-addled bunny rabbits, they’re always hippety-hopping back and forth across that line between ostentatious and anti-Biblical* piety, and activities that violate that self-proclaimed piety. There’s a little bit of Hot Tub Tommy** in a great many folk, but only the Special Ones let their Inner Hounds run while claiming that both alcohol and expression of christian faith are involved.

    But we’re all sinners, my friends, and the Big Guy in the Sky will forgive, if you just ask real nice like. Practicing faith is just like your soul is a car: drive it through whatever dirt and grime you want, then go to a big ol’ place of worship, which is just like a car wash, but for your soul. Just remember that some weeks you’re gonna have to shell out for that extra wax treatment to restore that original shine.

    *[Somewhere in Matthew 6… where it says praying should be done in private.]

    **Or Michael Steele, Bob Livingstone, Larry Craig, Newt Gingrich, etc.

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    srv says:

    The sea of Galilee is 64 square miles of water and people swim in it all the time. People go there to be baptized.

    OMG naked a night. You people are completely psycho.

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    Spatula says:

    @Hal:

    How do you troll your own blog?

    Where have YOU been?

    One trolls one’s own blog by posting crap purely designed to stir up the fanbot base, reinforce their stupid group think habits, and draw a couple of dissenters like me, resulting in epic length threads and lots of page hits.

    Cole doesn’t think there’s anything wrong with skinny dipping in the Sea of Galilee or anywhere else; he’s just egging on the thread and playing super-Dem.

    In a couple of days he will post something with a hint of Firebaggishness as kind of a mirror image trolling tactic, and to keep us all guessing just a little bit…

    The Cole post schizophrenia is one of the attractions for me to this place. Maybe someday there will be a meltdown.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Spatula:

    Ok, I have no idea what sychopantic means, but I have observed over time that you (whatever your current name is) have a habit of frantically trying to get Cole’s attention.

    Which he gives to practically nobody, so you should give it up, hombre.

    Ok, WTF? over – no idea why the whole damn comment shows up as a link.

    FYWP, 20 bazillion times.

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    Spatula says:

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    Pretty sure you’re here too.

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    Spatula says:

    @srv:

    OMG naked a night. You people are completely psycho.

    You are CORRECT, Sir!

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    Heliopause says:

    “The FBI looked into whether any inappropriate behavior occurred…The FBI’s questions focused on who went into the water that night, and whether there was any impropriety, according to multiple sources…The FBI declined to comment on its probe, saying its standard policy was not to comment on such matters.”

    Can somebody explain why the FBI was involved in this?

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    arguingwithsignposts says:

    @Spatula: Indeed. But I have no problem with it. And I am not the one making a HUGE ISSUE out of my pseudo-psychological diagnosis of the blog host.

    Why, exactly, do you come here again?

  94. 94
    Spatula says:

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    Entertainment, and a continued fascination with tribal group-think in politics, which I used to think was most prevalent on the right. I was wrong.

    Also I am intrigued by the issue of Cole’s political about-face, and whether or not it is authentic.

    And to annoy you.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Spatula: You are losing, Mr. Kitchen Toolio.

  96. 96
    Spatula says:

    Losing what, Boner?

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    jl says:

    I done did some o’ that sauna stuff in Nordic lands with butt nekkid wimmins and mens, together in one room, a moist and hot room BTW. Probably I can’t run for office now do to my scandalous past.

    But I was too much of a girly man, or was sane enough, not go jump in the water afterward when it was cold out.

    OT, I made a very bad mistake and put on radio alarm for this morning, and woke up to Rudy Giuliani yelling at poor ol’ Schieff about how awful that Joe Biden is, and Palin was operating at a much higher level.

    Fer gawds sake. The Dem ticket must scare the crap out the GOP for them to make such asses out of themselves. The pathetic and hilarious GOP zombie concern troll campaign to dump Biden for the Democrats’ own good staggers on to provide another day of comedy.

    Of course, if things had gone slightly differently, and HRC was veep and Biden Secty of State, and the GOP had exhausted all of its sexist wedgies to no effect, then I am sure we would be hearing about how HRC’s ‘harshness’ and ‘divisiveness’ was hurting the Dems, and Biden would be better.

    Murderous psycho clowns is what the GOP has turned into.

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    Bago says:

    If the press holds grudges as long as @ewerickson holds a grudge, we’ll still be omni-tweeting about the “Great teabagging of the Galilee” incident in the year 2055.

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    Spatula says:

    @jl:

    I done did some o’ that sauna stuff in Nordic lands with butt nekkid wimmins and mens, together in one room, a moist and hot room BTW.

    BUT YOU DID NOT DO THIS IN A SACRED LOCATION!

    Cole is nothing if not deeply religious and respectful of same.

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    feebog says:

    I would ordinarily not give a rodent’s ass about skinny dipping. However, these Representatives were on an official trip representing the USA. Not the picture I would like painted for the rest of the world to see. Moreover, several posters have made the key observation; if this had been a half dozen Democratic Reps the faux outrage from Republicans would blow your socks off. But IOKIYAR.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Spatula: Uh, your ‘trying to annoy’ thingio. Ain’t working. (Ok, maybe it is, but just about as much as the dude who whipped it out on the Greyhound bus for me – a brief moment of amusement, quickly forgotten).

    And it’s Dancer, not Boner…that’s that Orange guy in WashDC.

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    Uriel says:

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    Is he about to tell us how it’s okay for coaches to shower with young boys? Or is this another of the perma-trolls.

    No,you’re right- he’s the one who supports the rights of under-aged, underprivileged children to shower with wealthy old men to their tender little heats content, the tut-tuting of all us unenlightened croch-sniffers be damned!

    Thank god for such principled americans as Timmy….

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Heliopause: And where the hell were they sticking their probe??

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    Xecky Gilchrist says:

    Oh, so it’s one of THESE threads: http://postimage.org/image/jjybgk4v7/

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    Wag says:

    All this talk about skinny dipping and embarrassed (em-bare-assed?) Representives made me think of Fannie Foxe and Rep. Wilber Mills.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanne_Foxe

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Xecky Gilchrist: Thank Gawd we all love pie.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @geg6:

    Help! FYWP! I used the term for having sex with a close relative and I’m being persecuted!

    Now we see the violence inherent in the system.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Ed in NJ:

    Are you being willfully stupid or trying to troll us?

    Those two things are not mutually exclusive. In fact, that’s spatula’s sweet spot: willfully stupid trollery.

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    John O says:

    I couldn’t give less of a shit to hear that some powerful people actually had some fun, for a change.

    I know they’re hypocrites, and accept it.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Poopyman:

    Just FYI, here’s a pic of Steve Southerland’s family, including his three daughters.

    That picture must have been PhotoShopped; Boehner is the wrong color.

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    Ash Can says:

    Between this and Romney’s trip, it should be abundantly clear that you can’t take a Republican anywhere.

    @Violet:

    “A Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape”

    The hell it wouldn’t. They’re full of shit.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    My husband used to hang around with American Embassy folks in AFG – they were HARD partiers.

    That was back in the 70’s. I doubt things have changed much.

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    Cain says:

    BTW I checked out teh age of the daughter and the youngest was like born in 1995, which makes her over 18 easily. So, every one was an adult.

    That said, it’s kind of sad that Republicans have to keep embarrassing us when they go offshore. It’s practically consistent. I remember the good old days when none of this shit would ever happened. We did our sneaky business privately or maybe the press knew when to keep their mouth shut.

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    The Dangerman says:

    OT, but if you’re into historical mysteries, there’s a Discovery Channel program on at 10pm about Amelia Earhart (sorry, East Coasters, too late for you); if you’re watching breaking headlines, there are reports they MAY have identified pieces of the plane (far from definitive, but there have been lots of clues at this location for the past couple decades, just no smoking gun yet, but they are getting close).

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    Ash Can says:

    @Cain: The press did keep their mouths shut. The article says this happened last summer. It’s just news of the FBI investigation that’s emerged now.

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    👽 Martin says:

    @Heliopause:

    Can somebody explain why the FBI was involved in this?

    Again. These people weren’t there on vacation. They were there representing the US. They were on the job. If I sent my staff to a conference as representatives of their employer and they went skinny dipping in the hotel pool, I’d probably fire them. If they did it while on vacation, I couldn’t give a shit.

    Does nobody else but me understand the difference between office behavior and bedroom behavior?

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    Violet says:

    Not sure if anyone saw this from the Politico story on the Republican swim:

    Some of those present took photographs of the group right after the late-night swim, sources said.

    Those pictures are out there somewhere.

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    Poopyman says:

    @Roger Moore: Maybe the digital camera auto color-corrected, what with all the mahogany paneling and all.

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    👽 Martin says:

    @Violet:

    Those pictures are out there somewhere.

    Stapled to Mitt Romney’s tax returns, no doubt. Hopefully in a building in Chicago.

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    Poopyman says:

    @Violet: Like someone already said earlier, they have nothing to hide. Don’t you know about shrinkage?

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    John Cole says:

    Look, Spatula. Just because I do not share the same moral compass as you and Caligula does not mean I am a prude or trolling the website or sexually repressed. I have no problem with people skinny dipping. There is a very desolate creek right by my house- I would have no problem going down there and dropping trou, in private, on a hot summer night and taking a dip myself.

    But I am not a US Congressmen on an official diplomatic fact-finding mission getting shitfaced and then skinnydipping with people in a holy site. As an atheist, I don’t even believe in the baby Jeebus, but I would never do anything like that because I like to think I have some remaining shreds of personal dignity.

    Personally, I don’t give a fuck if Yoder is sucking dick on horseback while wearing a wetsuit and an 8″ buttplug, as long as he is on his own property or in private. I’m very much a “whatever blows your trumpet” kind of guy. Having said that, I would have an issue if he was doing the same thing in the River Thames as a member of a US congressional delegation. Likewise, I have no problem with anyone having anal sex and putting whipped cream on their nipples while their lover shocks them with a car battery. I would have a problem if they were doing it in my front yard, and I would really think it was fucked up if it was my congressmen doing it while on a fact-finding mission to Moscow.

    You can not possibly be this fucking stupid or incapable of drawing distinctions between when behavior is appropriate and when it is not.

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    Heliopause says:

    @👽 Martin:

    Can somebody explain why the FBI was involved in this?

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    Steeplejack says:

    @The Dangerman:

    It’s coming on again at midnight EDT.

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    The Thin Black Duke says:

    @👽 Martin: Forget it, Jake. It’s Republicans.

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    Gretchen says:

    Yoder is my representative. He is running unopposed. The Kansas Democratic Party hasn’t been able to find even a token candidate, despite the fact that this district was represented by a Democrat for 10 years before he retired in 2010. I know the KDP is preoccupied with trying to keep Brownback and the teaparty nutcases at the state level from crashing and burning the state, but Yoder has voted 100% teaparty and that’s now what this district really wants.

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    @dance around in your bones:

    “Looks like about 5 or 6 inches to me”.

    Hee.

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    Steeplejack says:

    Is the Sea of Galilee really a “holy site”? I know it attracts a lot of Christian tourists who want to see the places where Jesus walked, etc., but it is also a highly developed recreational area, etc.

    ETA: I get that these jagoffs shouldn’t be making asses of themselves while representing the U.S. on official business, but I don’t get the “defiling a holy site with their skinnydipping” angle.

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    Phoenician in a time of Romans says:

    But I am not a US Congressmen on an official diplomatic fact-finding mission getting shitfaced and then skinnydipping with people in a holy site.

    Wait, what?

    That would be this place:
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    Today, tourism is the Kinneret’s most important economic activity with the entire region being a popular holiday destination.
    […]
    Another key attraction is the site where the Kinneret’s water flows into the Jordan River, to which thousands of pilgrims from all over the world come to be baptized every year.[citation needed]

    Israel’s most well-known open water swim race, the Kinneret Crossing, is held every year in September, drawing thousands of open water swimmers to participate in competitive and noncompetitive events.[citation needed]

    Tourists also partake in the building of rafts on Lavnun Beach, called Rafsodia. Here many different age groups work together to build a raft with their bare hands and then sail that raft across the Kinneret.[citation needed]
    .
    —-
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    Late night, drinking, skinny-dipping in a lake which is noted as a tourist and swimming spot? I don’t really see the problem here – even on a government tour, people are allowed to let their hair down after hours, and there doesn’t seem to be any reports of sexual harassment or Congressmen running down the high street with their willies waving in the breeze.

    I’m off to a conference for four days in September, paid for by my government institution. I am saving money for said institution by sharing a room with my partner, who is also going to the same conference, paid for by her tertiary institution. There will probably be naughty canoodlings involved after hours, and all on the taxpayer dime. Horrors!

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: Totally true story.

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    sharl says:

    Is there anyone reading here who knows if the specific constituencies of any of these folks would take this poorly? Or would it be DENIAL SHIELDS UP, and FULL POWER TO COGNITIVE DISSONANCE TORPEDOES?

    While inappropriate for this official visit by Congresspersons, such nekkidness in the teh homeland of the baybee Jeebus doesn’t bother me much personally – a bit aesthetically off-putting, but different strokes and all that – but I’m really hoping it makes for some “interesting” visits with heartland-valyoos constituents back in their Districts.

    ETA, I see that after posting, there are comments to the effect that the waters in question are already used for recreational purposes. Would still like to see this used against wingnut goopers in their CDs – a nekkid Congressman with a colleague’s daughter present?? My word! – but what shall be shall be.

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    Valdivia says:

    I think the issue for the FBI is that they were on a diplomatic mission invited by a foreign govt. Israelis are not uptight people about nakedness, but there may have been religious pilgrims in the area who were offended and reported it.

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    mai naem says:

    I thought Republican saxytime had to involve wetsuits and dildos and wide stances.

  133. 133
    Valdivia says:

    @Steeplejack:

    Having been there many a time in a swimsuit I can tell you if you are there when the religious people congregate you get a lot of dirty looks. To Israelis the Kineret is not holy at all, so they really couldn’t care less.

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    Violet says:

    @Heliopause:

    Can somebody explain why the FBI was involved in this?

    From the article:

    The FBI declined to comment on its probe, saying its standard policy was not to comment on such matters.

    So, no. Unless there’s a leak from the FBI.

    There is this bit:

    The FBI’s questions focused on who went into the water that night, and whether there was any impropriety, according to multiple sources

    Does the FBI monitor the public behavior of Members of Congress? Maybe they do in the sense of making sure there isn’t anything that is blackmail-worthy or something.

  135. 135
    Spatula says:

    @John Cole:

    Bloviating faux piety.

    You only pretend to give a shit because it’s a republican.

    At least I’m consistent: I don’t give a shit either way because it doesn’t matter in the least.

  136. 136
    Spatula says:

    @Phoenician in a time of Romans:

    Israel’s most well-known open water swim race, the Kinneret Crossing, is held every year in September, drawing thousands of open water swimmers to participate in competitive and noncompetitive events.

    That can’t be true. Cole says it’s a holy site so it must be so.

    And Cole is always right. He has a 12 year history of same to prove it.

    Oh, wait…

  137. 137
    b says:

    This is the real Kevin Yoder…..Went to school with this jackass…only person he cares bout is himself so this is no surprise…..wake up Kansas this is the real Kevin Yoder….still acting like a drunken frat idiot like he did at KU….

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    I once went skinny dipping with Mamie Eisenhower while we were at the 1957 NATO Heads of Government meeting in Paris.

    All that fuss – who knew you weren’t allowed to get your kit off in the Fontaines de la Concorde at 3am?

    ETA: Mind you, Mamie and I did manage to pick up a gendarme called Gerard and spent most of the rest of the week bouncing up and down on top of him, so it wasn’t a bad trip, all in all.

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    @John Cole:

    Personally, I don’t give a fuck…

    Fucking classic.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Spatula:

    I don’t give a shit either way because it doesn’t matter in the least.

    Kinda like you, dude.

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    Ash Can says:

    From the linked article, as good an explanation as any:

    The FBI looked into whether any inappropriate behavior occurred, but the interviews do not appear to have resulted in any formal allegations of wrongdoing.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if it were the booze and public disrobing factors that set the FBI off. As others here have noted, this was after all an official mission, and even though this was after hours these people were still official representatives of the US.

    Moreover (also from the article), the person who really did blow a gasket over this was none other than…

    But Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), who was the senior most GOP lawmaker in Israel on the trip, was so upset about the antics that he rebuked the 30 lawmakers the morning after the Aug. 18, 2011, incident, saying they were distracting from the mission of the trip.

  142. 142
    Carl Nyberg says:

    What criminal activity or alleged criminal activity precipitated the FBI investigation?

    I don’t get what makes this news.

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    scav says:

    I almost want to thank Yoder for dropping his briefs because watching kitchen implement get his knickers in such a twist is somehow howlingly funny — cut off all circulation to what passes for a brain and totally stripped his cogs. And then since Yoder is such an Amish name for me, the imagery in itself is pretty wild to begin with.

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    Phoenician in a time of Romans says:

    @Valdivia:

    think the issue for the FBI is that they were on a diplomatic mission invited by a foreign govt. Israelis are not uptight people about nakedness, but there may have been religious pilgrims in the area who were offended and reported it.

    There are hotels built on the waterfront. It depends on the circumstances, but it sounds more like a private beach or beachfront associated with the hotel, with a bunch of inebriated diplomats hitting the surf straight from their rooms or dinner arrangements.

    If these guys were Australian, it would probably be expected of them.

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    ralph wiggum says:

    Two words: Pee Pool

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Is the FBI involved in security when officials travel officially overseas?

    and did Ben Quayle win his primary against the guy who called him “Both Ways Quayle” or some such, and Quayle thought the guy was calling him bisexual? And does anyone but me think Ben Quayle still lives at home, and still has a Heather Locklear poster on his bedroom wall?

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    TG Chicago says:

    @Shalimar: Yeah, I kinda agree. This really isn’t so terrible.

    But I can’t help but think what these same folks would say if some black or brown kids were found drinking and skinny dipping in their local lake or quarry. In that case, we would be dealing with horrible hedonistic hoodlums~! But this is totally cool.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall:

    We used to have sexytime fuck in the airplane bathrooms back in the day………before they would bang on the door if you were in there for more than five minutes..

    Also – true story – once I burned my ass from a burning piece of hash that fell on the airplane toilet whilst I was, ahhhh, indulging. Back when you could smoke in the airplane w/o bringing in the F-35’s or whatever they are called now,

    Anyway, my ass hurt like hell for the next 10 hours (it was a long flight).

  149. 149
    GregB says:

    There is obviously much more to the story if Cantor was furious and the FBI were looking into the incident.

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    👽 Martin says:

    @Violet:

    Does the FBI monitor the public behavior of Members of Congress?

    The FBI has two main responsibilities:

    1) enforcing federal laws
    2) counterintelligence

    They would investigate this under either of these – to make sure that drunken Congressmen with security clearances aren’t revealing information to foreign agents (I think unlikely this is reason), and that they aren’t otherwise breaking any laws (more likely the reason). Federal employees are generally still subject to US laws while overseas on work related duties. They would also be subject to foreign laws.

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    scav says:

    @GregB: Basically, yeah. The nekkid bit side-show is what got it into the papers.

  152. 152
    redshirt says:

    Big hitter, the Lama. Long.

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    Gretchen says:

    @sharl: Yoder is unopposed. I’d love to vote against him, as would all my friends here in KS-3, but no Dem is running. No idea why not.

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    Yutsano says:

    @dance around in your bones: Well FWIW it’s not so much a security risk inasmuch as a second hand smoke restriction. If you hop a European plane anywhere you’ll notice there is no such restriction. I drank a lot of water on that SAS flight. And if I had pushed matters probably could have joined the Mile High Club. Ahh college…

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: For a moment I thought Mamie would have preferred to bounce upon you, but then I recalled that was Eleanor. Who was also quite lovely.

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    sharl says:

    @Gretchen: Thanks; only saw your earlier comment (and ‘b’ @140) after I had posted…

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: Well, I know I love you.

    Did I ever tell you about the hubble-bubbles in AFG and how I tried to keep up with the guys?

    I would end up sailing the bed around the room, as we used to say.

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    suzanne says:

    HAHAAHAAAAAAAA of course Ben Quayle was involved.

    Sounds fun, though. I, too, would love to have the taxpayers send me around the world to get fucked up and par-TAAAAAAAY.

    Seriously. Sounds like a blast.

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    redshirt says:

    I’m impressed no one’s made a Yoda joke yet, or even a “do or do not, there is no try” allusion.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Yutsano:

    I was, ya know, exaggerating a little bit.

    Hell, I remember when they used to give you a little 3 or 4 pack of cigarettes on the airplane with your dinner. (All free).

    And everybody lit up.

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    Phoenician in a time of Romans says:

    @dance around in your bones:

    We used to fuck in the airplane bathrooms back in the day………before they would bang on the door if you were in there for more than five minutes..

    Hah – I could be done TWICE and still get out before they became suspicious! Possibly THREE times if you count that unfortunate incident I had daydreaming about the Cathay Pacific stewardess while in my seat.

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    Uriel says:

    @John Cole:

    You can not possibly be this fucking stupid or incapable of drawing distinctions between when behavior is appropriate and when it is not.

    Objection, your honor! Assuming facts not in evidence!

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Phoenician in a time of Romans: Uhhhh…am I impressed?;)

    We didn’t brag about no mile-high club, neither. We just, uh, did it. ‘Cause the flights were long and it was fun.

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    @Yutsano:

    For a moment I thought Mamie would have preferred to bounce upon you, but then I recalled that was Eleanor.

    It was both of them once, but only for one warm, orangeblossom-scented evening in Tangiers.

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    @dance around in your bones:

    I would end up sailing the bed around the room, as we used to say.

    I think I actually blushed. That or my e is kicking in.

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    Nom de Plume says:

    @John Cole: Imagine an Israeli delegation streaking at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier

    Hahaha, trick scenario. An Israeli delegation could do anything the hell they wanted, and nobody would say shit.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall:

    That actually refers to the sensation of hanging on to the edges of the bed while it flies about the room, not, like pulling a train or some smarmy thang.

    Can you send me some e?

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    Yutsano says:

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: Well now. I see that I am way overdue for my next pilgrimage to Spokane! :)

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    Phoenician in a time of Romans says:

    @dance around in your bones:

    We just, uh, did it.

    We? Wait, there was someone else in the bathroom with you?

    I hadn’t considered that possibility…

  170. 170
    dance around in your bones says:

    @Phoenician in a time of Romans: Heh heh.

    Ya, there was the two of us. Well, unless it was the two that I wanted.

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    karen marie says:

    @John Cole: How is the Sea of Galilee “a holy site”? They were eating in a restaurant on its shore, not attending a church service.

    I’d like to know what the FBI thought it was investigating because this incident, although in bad taste, broke no US laws that I know of.

  172. 172
    dance around in your bones says:

    I kinda hate it when everybody disappears around here.

    Not to go all Little Boots on everyone…..I just have trouble sleeping lately…..especially when it’s only 10:26 here.

    Well, maybe my ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZanaxxxxxxx will kick in soon.

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    @dance around in your bones:

    That actually refers to the sensation of hanging on to the edges of the bed while it flies about the room, not, like pulling a train or some smarmy thang.

    Ah. I can’t help my filthy mind.

    Can you send me some e?

    I think Anderson snaffled the last one, but I have some hash cupcakes that are to die for.

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    @Yutsano:

    Jesus says he has made up the spare bed and windexed the guest bathroom.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: I’m thinking about getting the mar-ee-ju-wana card.

    I can’t wait to go into a pot shop and………..well, shop!!

    Never thought it would happen in my lifetime. Not that it ever stopped me from partaking….however, I am particularly fond of the juice of the poppy. Guess I will have to grow my own, surreptitiously.

    Woops, guess I just blew the surreptitiously part! Ha de ha ha!

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    Yutsano says:

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: He’s a good lad. I hope you tipped him well before your latest excursion. And I’m not talking about the last rent boy incident. Those stains took him days to get out of the carpet and the nursing home director was ever so cross.

    (Note: Those lines are funnier if you hear them in your head in Alex Kingston’s voice.)

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    @Yutsano:

    I know. It was worse than the time Ronnie Reagan crapped himself at my Spring Tea in 1997.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    ok. just for fun – The Waitresses and Jimmy Tomorrow

    “Found a cure for hunger yet? Black coffee and cigarettes”

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    Yutsano says:

    @Sarah, Proud and Tall: Is that why he’s never been back? Pity. I think a few of the residents rather fancied him.

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    xian says:

    @John Cole: timmeh’s mission accomplished – attention from daddy

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    xian says:

    @Spatula:nothing like posting all weekend to prove you don’t give a shit about something

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    xian says:

    @Uriel: exactly. given that timmeh thinks fucking an underage boy in a school locker shower might be appropriate, i wouldn’t expect him to understand how this shenanigans might cross a line. instead he want us to know he gets the vapors when a partisan blog takes partisan shots and make sure we all know that the sexual revolution did not pass him by.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @dance around in your bones: Probably my favorite waitresses song. Have tried to get stations to play it without success.

    On topic, it sounds as though no one else here ever visits clothing optional beaches. It’s no big deal, really. Especially in the Med.

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    Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937 says:

    I’ve seen pictures of some of those congress people. I’m glad they chose to swim at night.

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    dance around in your bones says:

    @Bobby Thomson:

    “Found a cure for desire, yet?
    I don’t wanna talk about that, why do you keep asking me?!”

    Really too many great lines to quote.

    I have been to clothing optional beaches in SoCal but sand keeps getting into inconvenient places and the naked people are almost always the ones that really should just keep their clothes on already, ya know?

  186. 186
    MooCow! says:

    #YOLO

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    artem1s says:

    @John Cole:

    dropping trou in a holy site.

    OK, the WHOLE Sea of Galilee a holy site? srsly? its the largest fresh water lake in the country and about 65 square miles. And I’m betting it was probably the hotel private beach, not a public beach (think security).

    there’s a big difference between skinny dipping off of Middle Bass Island at the Perry National Monument and jumping into the water at a private beach on Lake Erie. you do the former and can get arrested for indecent exposure and public drunkenness. Do the latter and pretty much no one knows or cares.

    IMHO the USA get its panties in way too much of a wad over public nudity issues and confuses it way too much with sexualizing and objectifying body parts for the sake of marketing and advertising.

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    Aet says:

    While I _do_ like the fact that politicians were covered like celebrities, this isn’t really a scandal. If this was illegal, it shouldn’t be.

    I’d rather hope that our national representatives overseas would not behave like drunken college tourists, but at least they aren’t voting to take people’s rights away or starve babies.

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    Catsy says:

    @Spatula: Aww. Our resident concern troll is concerned. How adorable. And surprising.

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    Spatula says:

    @Catsy:

    You’re wrong, as per always, Batsy Catsy.

    If you could read you would have perceived that it is your sky god Cole who is deeply, severely, and VERY concerned about he desperately important impropriety of people swimming – gasp! – NUDIE in the holiest of all holy water holes, The Sea of Galilee.

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    replicnt6 says:

    This description of the holy site that mustn’t be tainted by skinny dipping (from http://igoogledisrael.com/2010.....ay-season/)

    In a nutshell, visiting the Sea of Galilee during peak holiday season (a week in Passover/Pessach, a week or two over the Jewish New Year (usually in September), and most of July and August – check out our guide on the best time to visit Israel) is not for the faint-hearted. Seriously, if you can handle very crowded beaches, litter everywhere, music blasting from cars and tents, and with hordes of arseim to complement the scene, feel free to check out the Sea of Galilee in holiday season. Otherwise, you might want to steer clear. Very clear.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @dance around in your bones: I find sand is less of an issue with no suit. YMMV.

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    LanceThruster says:

    If there were any under age children present (or offended adults), shouldn’t he now have to register as a sex offender?

    Maybe Michael Powell can give him the full Janet Jackson nipple-gate monty.

    And the FBI cares about this why? Are they afraid they need to get in on the action the Secret Service has been in the news for recently?

    “Peoples are swimmin’ nekkid in the “see” of Galilee? To the FBI-mobile for a full frontal investigation! Wait. What? Just some guy? Poop!”

  194. 194
    Phoenician in a time of Romans says:

    Ooops

    “When President John Quincy Adams lived in the White House, between 1825 and 1829, the erstwhile diplomat and U.S. Senator frequently went skinny-dipping in the Potomac River, causing no fuss. President Teddy Roosevelt, an avid outdoorsman, swam naked in the Potomac too. Billy Graham was one of many to go skinny-dipping with President Lyndon Johnson in the White House pool. ”

    (http://www.theatlantic.com/pol.....an/261311/)

  195. 195
    Heliopause says:

    Not that anybody is still reading this, but I finally got an answer to my question of why the FBI was involved in this. According to this reporting the FBI interest was only incidental as they were already investigating the junket for another reason.

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