Open Thread: No Respect for Others’ Property

Thank you, Wonkette, for this:

Rush Limbaugh Newsletter Hops Aboard Nerd Art Plagiarism Bandwagon
Hey, so what’s the deal with right-wingers, huh? They’re always going on about how sacred PRIVATE PROPERTY is, how it’s all IMMORAL for anyone to benefit from SOMEBODY ELSE’S “hard work,” am I right?…

So, yes, it turns out: they didn’t build that.

Click the link for more hilarity, and don’t miss the mouse-over legend on the image. Comments are pretty good, too also.

You’d think by now the fReichtards would have figured out that an image which stuck in their memories might be remembered by others just as well, but then “cluefulness” is not a stat on the rightwing gaming sheets…

24 replies
  1. 1
    Baud says:

    I think the real secret in Romney’s tax return is that, for many years, he claimed deductions for six dependents.

  2. 2
    handy says:

    IANAL, but wouldn’t this fall under fair use?

  3. 3
    Baud says:


    It’s fair use by definition because IOKIYAR.

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    MD Rackham says:

    @handy: How could copying someone else’s artwork to use in a profit-making newsletter possibly be considered “fair use?”

    Other than IOKIYAR, that is.

  5. 5
    Cluttered Mind says:

    @MD Rackham: IOKIYAR allows everything except dead girls and live boys, and in the case of Joe Scarborough even a dead girl wasn’t a problem.

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    The Populist says:

    They sure do love the free market and talking about protecting property rights until they get caught using somebody’s art, movie, music, etc without permission.

    Funny how that works.

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    MikeJ says:

    @handy:Fair use is an affirmative defense. To use it, you have to go to court and admit that yes, you did violate copyright, but you only took a little bit for a book review. Or you only took a little bit for a art history class. Taking the whole thing for a metaphor about something unrelated probably won’t fly.

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    FuriousPhil says:

    The artist is Wayne Reynolds, well known for doing the iconic characters for Paizo’s Pathfinder game based on the 3.5 D&D rule set.

    I believe he has a website with a pretty significant disclaimer. The artwork was actually used by Wizards of the Coast for one of the monster manuals, which is a subsidiary of Hasbro. I’m pretty certain the gamer geeks are already on this. The artist seems to be aware, but it would be up to WotC legal to do anything about it (since they own the rights), and since 3.5 is no longer in print or supported really, the likelihood of anything other than a cease and desist letter is slim.

    Also, allow me to channel my inner 12 year old – Rush Limbaugh, stop fucking with my hobbies you dildo.

  10. 10
    MariedeGournay says:

    Rush, always losing his saving throw against being an asshole.

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    handy says:


    Couldn’t this fall under (dear God it sounds asinine already and I haven’t even written it yet) parody? Limbaugh’s a comedian after all.

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    peorgietirebiter says:

    Well, as my favorite creative director used to say, Never draw anything you can trace, never trace anything you cut and paste, never cut and paste anything you can photocopy and when you steal, for god’s sake, steal only from the best.

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    Remfin says:


    Obviously IANAL, but as I understand it parody/criticism fair-use needs to be parodying/criticizing the original piece of art. Not just re-appropriating it to parody/criticize something else.

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    Wazmo says:

    Remember, folks, that el lardo himself said that if PPACA was upheld he’d leave the US.

    Methinks its time for a Limbaugh moves to Costa Rica countdown website assuming that it survives past the election.

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    rikyrah says:

    Now, folks are just clowning Willard on the tax returns. Folks are going all in on the ‘ I don’t know if he beats his wife’ accusation.

    Lawrence O just said in the first minute of his show:


    bwa ha ha ha ha ha

    there’s no way to answer these type of questions…UNLESS HE RELEASES THE TAX RETURNS.

    hee hee hee

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    The thing is, as is the case with rights to use music, the GOP is notorious for not bothering to follow the proper procedure in obtaining permission. We’ve seen this from Ronald Reagan, John McCain, and Sarah Palin, for example. For some strange reason, Democrats always check first and secure permission to use clips of music at campaign rallies and such, even if it’s just music to keep the crowd entertained before the candidate gets arrives for the rally.

    Perhaps the reason the Rethugs don’t ask is because they know that many pop artists will flat out say NO to their request, because the artists don’t want to be associated with Rethug policies or positions.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:


    OvenMitt’s lawyers, I’m sure, have already told him that to accuse LOD of slander is to open up discovery of his tax returns. The judge will simply say, turn them over.

    Truth is an ironclad defense of slander.

    OvenMitt is fucked.

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    El Cruzado says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: As usual the Onion (,27792/) has the answer.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    Ahem, my dear Anne Laurie, we style it “alt text”. A “mouseover” in webternet speak is a javascript event, in other words, one of those things that used to break websites and crash browsers in the gee whiz days of Tim Berner-Lee’s creation.

    Alt text, on the other hand, was put into the HTML standard to enable accessibility for the blind, believe it or not. Wonkette misuses it for the love of Thalia, muse of Comedy; many websites don’t bother to use it at all. Ideally it would be a brief description of the image.

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    Jay in Oregon says:


    I’m pretty certain the gamer geeks are already on this. The artist seems to be aware, but it would be up to WotC legal to do anything about it (since they own the rights), and since 3.5 is no longer in print or supported really, the likelihood of anything other than a cease and desist letter is slim.

    Two things spring to mind:
    1) WotC has reused a LOT of its older artwork in D&D 4th Edition. I happen to be a HUGE Wayne Reynolds fan, so I’m aware that many of his monster illustrations from 3rd edition have appeared in 4th edition. It’s likely that this illustration is in a currently-in-print book.
    2) Wizards of the Coast will actually be reprinting the three core rulebooks for D&D v3.5 later this year. So the fact that they are currently out of print may be irrelevant.

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    Desert Rat says:

    @Jay in Oregon:

    Jay raises a couple of points here.

    WotC still reuses images from the company they bought out, TSR, Inc. that used to publish D&D. Good chance that this image is used in the 4th Edition equivalent of D&D 3’s Monster Manual. Not to mention that Dungeons and Dragons is due to publish their Fifth Edition shortly.

    As a guy who runs a lot of Star Wars Roleplaying (until recently, also published by Wizards of the Coast), I’ve seen them reuse artwork from two previous editions in the last edition they did.

    Note that this is from the Monster Manual II, however, which is not being reprinted. Only the first Monster Manual is being reprinted.

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    Edo says:

    Just checking in here to say that this IS in current use; not in one of the core books, but definitely in one of the Dark Sun books.

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    Edo says:

    Just checking in here to say that this IS in current use. It isn’t in any of the core books (although it was in the 3.5 MM2), but it *is* in the 4E Dark Sun Monster Manual, which is still in print. (I think. I stopped following Wizards closely at the end of 3.x.)

    Not sure how relevant it is, but it’s my $.02.

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    Desert Rat says:


    Good to know. I figured it had made it into 4E somewhere. WotC does recycle art quite a bit.

    I’d jumped ship from D&D when 4E came out, and switched to Pathfinder.

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