First Time Tragedy (Well, History, really), Second Time Farce…

Glendower to Hotspur:

I can call spirits from the vasty deep.

Hotspur to Glendower:

Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them?*

 

Mitt Romney to the American people:

Romney spoke before a crowd of more than 1,000 at the Jefferson County Fairgrounds. He said he had a “presidential accountability scorecard” to help grow the U.S. economy.

The [Denver]  Post said Romney pointed to energy independence, making sure the young have the skills to succeed, improving the U.S. trade system, cutting the national debt and championing small businesses.

If goals in those five areas are achieved, Romney said, it would create an estimated 12 million jobs, the Post reported.

I can create jobs, or so can any man or woman.  But will the come when Mitt does call for them?

I. Think. Not.

*Henry The Fourth, Part I Act 3, scene 1, 52–58

Image:  J.W.M. Turner, Storm at Sea, undated, before 1851.






83 replies
  1. 1
    Rusty says:

    And then Prince Hal kills Hotspur and they all lived happily ever after… or at least retired to the tavern for some good ale.

  2. 2
    Pappy G says:

    One of my favorite lines in Shakespeare is in that scene –

    HOTSPUR: …a plague upon’t – I have forgot the map!

  3. 3
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Let’s imagine we removed all restrictions on drilling and extracting. In the oil industry’s wildest fantasies, can the US achieve “energy independence”?

  4. 4
    General Stuck says:

    You know, I like to keep up with what the other candidate of the other party is saying day to day, during an election season, even if I don’t agree, and even if it pisses me off. Like GWB and sidekick Cheney in 2004.. Same with right wing pundits, that I spent a fair amount trolling, or just arguing on the few boards that didn’t have registration.

    Not so much this go around. There has to be a scintilla of substance as related to belief, for it to compute in my reasoning brain areas. I just have nothing, when I hear Romney say something, of this or that variety. With the lemmings of the RWNM just lining up with the same nonsense. Nothing the man says is tethered to anything like a grounded belief system relative to being a president. It may be there, and ambition has made the man insane. But it is a vacuum, in deep space, where the Mittster resides, where no one can hear him scream. HELP MEEEEEE!!

  5. 5
    Short Bus Bully says:

    If goals in those five areas are achieved, Romney said, it would create an estimated 12 million jobs, the Post reported.

    And IF frogs had wings they wouldn’t bump their butts when they jump.

  6. 6
    MattMinus says:

    So it’s:
    energy independence (drill, baby,drill)

    making sure the young have the skills to succeed (vouchers)

    improving the U.S. trade system (gutting regulation)

    cutting the national debt (destroying the safety net)

    and

    championing small businesses (tax cuts for the rich)

    Truly, these are bold ideas!

  7. 7
    Tonal Crow says:

    It’s a simple 3-step plan!

    1. Tout “presidential accountability scorecard”.
    2. God appears and grants Romney 3 wishes (and 3 more ponies for him to ignore).
    3. He fulfills his promise.

    See, libtards?


    Tag: Romney’s like Sarah Palin, but not as honest.

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    ThatLeftTurnInABQ says:

    @Short Bus Bully:

    If goals in those five areas are achieved, Romney said, it would create an estimated 12 million jobs, the Post reported.

    __
    He merely left out the part where Obama and a Democratic Congress are the ones who accomplish them, because God knows there is nothing that GOP has to offer in the way of policy on any of those issues that is going to do anything other than to drive us over a cliff.

  9. 9
    LanceThruster says:

    It will all work if we just clap louder.

  10. 10
    Bokonon says:

    Shorter Romney – “I have complete contempt for you! Free ponies for everyone! Hurry up and vote for me!!”

    I’ll bet that when Romney talked about “energy independence”, he didn’t mention renewing the wind power production tax credit.

    That’s because Romney’s platform calls for eliminating the wind production tax credit … which could literally cost thousands of jobs across Colorado’s green energy sector. This has been getting a reasonable amount of press locally -and a number of GOP politicians are distancing themselves from Romney’s position. Although Romney has still been polling surprisingly close to Obama in Colorado.

    Although … a crowd of 1,000 is pretty weak for Jefferson County. Especially with advance notice and local media coverage. Michele Obama did nearly that well when she appeared at a local high school several weeks ago with less fanfare. What’s up here?

    By the way … isn’t it funny how Romney is ordinarily all in favor of tax cuts and tax credits, but suddenly he gets all inconsistent here and makes this exception that specifically targets the wind power industry? And works against energy independence? Curious, eh? Can we detect the unsubtle intervention of the fossil fuel lobby, putting a hit on their rivals?

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    Sal says:

    That is my favorite Shakespeare quote. Applicable all over the place.

  12. 12
    quannlace says:

    “‘Oh, Whistle, and I’ll Come to You, My Lad'”

    A great ghost story by M.R, James.

  13. 13
    General Stuck says:

    @efgoldman:

    except that WE OWE HIM!

    This is the emission in a phrase, and what will embarrass the nation when it becomes clear in the closing days before the voting starts. The last president I got that vibe from was Richard Milhouse Nixon, and Nixon as a pure matter of retail politics, puts the clown shoes on Mitt. In other words Mitt won’t fool anybody, any of the time.

    The only question is, whether the hatred for Obama will get enough misanthropes to get offin their couches and go vote when they normally wouldn’t bother, just to get the black out of their White House.

  14. 14
    Tonal Crow says:

    @Bokonon:

    By the way … isn’t it funny how Romney is ordinarily all in favor of tax cuts and tax credits, but suddenly he gets all inconsistent here and makes this exception that specifically targets the wind power industry? Curious, eh? Do I detect the unsubtle hand of the fossil fuel lobby?

    You libtards! I have to explain every single little thing to you like to a 3-year-old! When it’s a “tax cut” for “wind power”, it’s CRONY CAPITALISM! And when it’s a tax cut for coal, it’s GOOD FOR BIDNESS.

    Understand finally, libtard?


    Tag: Romney: like Sarah Palin, but with worse morals.

  15. 15
    scav says:

    If New Years Resolutions are achieved, we’d be a much sexier nation.

    MBA speak always does put hypothetical goals in the past tense.

  16. 16

    Romney – Bzzz I am not Obama aplogizing for USA and being all black and all. Vote for me I have distingusihed gray wing-tip hair. Bzzzzzz”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ End Communication~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    MikeJ says:

    @Bokonon: I would guess Romney didn’t mention it because he doesn’t know he’s against the wind power credit. I doubt anybody told him what he believes on that issue.

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    Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac says:

    A study by the Tax Policy Center estimated unspecified tax exemptions for individuals, deductions and credits would have to be slashed by as much as 66 percent to cover the $360 billion annual cost of the proposed Romney tax code. Campaign economic adviser Kevin Hassett disputed that analysis saying, “Governor Romney has a plan to reduce taxes of all Americans. That’s where the job creation will come from.”

    This is their line? “hey Rmoney, how you gonna pay for all those tax cuts?”,

    “Tax cuts are jobs!”

    “nonono, that’s not what I said. The analysis shows that your cuts are unsustainable and will increase the deficit, yet you haven’t provided any additional information to your plan to dispute the analysis”

    “Jobs.”

    “jesus H. Kolob…”

    “jobs.”

    And somehow, through a glass darkly, this is a Presidential Campaign

  19. 19
    Tonal Crow says:

    @Grung_e_Gene: You forgot the

    (*&#($O}{P@*NO CARRIER

    message block.


    Tag: Romney: like Sarah Palin, but for Republican women.

  20. 20
    Anya says:

    Romney doesn’t care about how hard it is for you losers to put food on your family.

  21. 21
    JPL says:

    @MikeJ: There is always that retroactively thingy, that seems to work for him also.

  22. 22
    Todd says:

    They’ve got enough aggregate corporate earnings laying around in money bins for about 18 months’ worth of illusory conservative wonderfulness for public consumption, kinda like the mid 80s Reagan boomlet benefitted Wall Streeters in nice suits (but nobody else, save for movement boys). After the newest conservatard bubble inflates, they can get back to talking about investing social security in the casino.

  23. 23
    Caz says:

    I like your response to Romney’s plan: “Nope, it won’t work.” Lol.

  24. 24
    Todd says:

    They’ve got enough aggregate corporate earnings laying around in money bins for about 18 months’ worth of illusory conservative wonderfulness for public consumption, kinda like the mid 80s Reagan boomlet benefitted Wall Streeters in nice suits (but nobody else, save for movement boys). After the newest conservatard bubble inflates, they can get back to talking about investing social security in the cas!no.

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    Tonal Crow says:

    @Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac: Watch for the Laffer Curve and “dynamic scoring” to make an appearance soon. Republicans are portals to an entire universe filled to the gills with bullshit.


    Romney: Like Sarah Palin, but with gray hair and a tendency to lie more.

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    Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac says:

    @efgoldman: In Romney’s america, that will be the Bishop’s Storehouse

  27. 27
    Bokonon says:

    @Tonal Crow:

    Darn it, that’s right. I forgot. There is a “liberal’ economy and there is a “conservative” economy. And the liberal economy isn’t really part of America … so it doesn’t count. And it deserves whatever it gets. Tax it to death, blow it up, let the Chinese pick over its bones. Hah hah! It is all pretty funny. Laugh up, liberals!

    Your modern GOP – all in favor of job creation and tax cuts. Except when they aren’t.

  28. 28
    Jager says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: No, but the oil companies would make a shit ton of money! Wait, they already make a shit ton of money. Okay,they’d make a Mega-Shit-Ton of Money!

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @efgoldman:

    I hated Nixon by 1960, and I was only fifteen.

    Heck, so did I, and I was barely five! One of my earliest dateable childhood memories is falling asleep on the couch the night of the election, watching the tiny black-and-white tv my parents had saved up to buy for just that purpose, since they were too galvanised to put me to bed…

  30. 30
    pseudonymous in nc says:

    @Caz: obvious troll is obvious.

  31. 31
    Anya says:

    @efgoldman: I was just being a bit nostalgic for a little bit of Bushism. Also, too reminding myself about the last time an out of touch entitled douchebag won the presidency.

  32. 32
    Tonal Crow says:

    @pseudonymous in nc: Not many people know that feeding trolls can make them swell up and explode. That wouldn’t seem to be a problem, except that the pieces grow into new trolls.

  33. 33
    NotMax says:

    Too good a read at the link to not also mention it on this thread.

    Long, but wonderfully snippy, piece about following Mitt on the campaign trail. Description of him stooping to deal with the reg’lar folk:

    “Hello, little organism different from myself. I will now make noises that I believe are comprehensible to your kind.”

  34. 34
    Patricia Kayden says:

    You make Henry the IVth appear cool. Never read it.

    Romneybot 2.0 is now making big promises that he knows he can’t keep. Good luck with that.

  35. 35
    Anya says:

    @Caz: why don’t you explain to us how it will work. Educate us, oh wise one!

  36. 36
    jl says:

    I think it is terrible that these bogus “joke” liberal “economic studies” ignore the obvious Romney tax cut boom, that the Romney people won’t explain to anyone.

    Wake up sheeples!

  37. 37
    NotMax says:

    @efgoldman

    Heh. Nearly simultaneous posting.

    Great minds and all that. :)

  38. 38
    mclaren says:

    As an indication of how completely American society is disintegrating, check out this Chris Hedges interview with Bill Moyers from just a few days ago.

    “We stand on the verge of one of the bleakest periods in human history, when the bright lights of civilization blink out and we descend for decades, if not centuries, into barbarity.” — Chris Hedges

    Or take a look at Eric Kraus’ recent dissection of the exponential decline of the West, here (pdf):

    It is hard for those of us living in market-land to remember that there was a time when each morning one could turn on one’s Bloomberg without a sense of dread. A time when we feared, at worst, a trade going against us, or a market sell-off, a rate hike — not the collapse of the entire socioeconomic system that feeds and protects us; such fears were once the appanage of cranks, survivalists, and Austrians. No longer – catastrophism has gone distinctly mainstream!

    Speaking with our friends in finance, everyone suddenly seems to hate his job – even those who are still making money find it deeply dissatisfying. Fundamental research (never T&B’s stock-in-trade) has become almost comically irrelevant; markets have no discernible pattern other than nervous oscillation, while one gets a sore neck following the steady stream of contradictory headlines, brainless policy declarations, broken promises, failed summits and political incompetence elevated to the level of fine art. The volatility is fierce but cyclical, with a general sense that we are living on borrowed time – no one has much idea of what lies on the other side of the approaching discontinuity. Even in September 2008 – as we watched in terror the US financial system accelerate into a death spiral, dragging the world in its wake – along with some gallows humour, there was an excitement – almost a sense of elation; at least it was happening fast.

    No longer – now we are living a slow-motion train wreck, a gradual drift into madness as European `policy-makers’ are reminiscent of the last, panicked months of the pre-crisis Yeltsin government – when each day brought its crop of wildly contradictory statements, absent any coordination or concern with market impact…

    Mitt Romney is just a symptom of the deep cancer destroying America, the cancer of uncontrolled greed, of unlimited increase in corporate power, of “the pursuit of wealth, forgetting all but self” as Adam Smith wrote in the The Wealth of Nations in the 1770s.

  39. 39
    jl says:

    @Anya:

    ” why don’t you explain to us how it will work. Educate us, oh wise one! ”

    I think that is a McCarthyite tactic against poor Mitt. And I think you should feel ashamed of yourself.

  40. 40
    BGinCHI says:

    Tom, if you compare Romney to the great and beloved Welsh rebel and prince again I’m not going to be able to help you.

  41. 41
    the Conster says:

    Romney is finally coming to grok how far in over his head he is, and his throwing a rod daily is a symptom of his dawning understanding that the world outside his Mormon bubble is way more complicated then he could have possibly imagined. He’s only ever been surrounded by rich men and Mormon yes men, and given orders. He’s never had to justify himself, and he doesn’t understand fully yet that he’s on a job interview and he’s failing. He’s not built for this, and by the time November comes, he may be spouting completely contradictory jibberish – not day to day, but minute to minute. I noticed on the news tonight that his hair has gotten blacker, except for those gray temples. He’s very, very uncomfortable with everything, including himself. It’s fun to watch.

  42. 42
    Dennis SGMM says:

    If goals in those five areas are achieved, Romney said, it would create an estimated 12 million million bazillion jobs, the Post reported.

  43. 43
    Davis X. Machina says:

    @the Conster: I don’t care how uncomfortable he is, at 48%, I’ll take the over.

    Referendum questions don’t have feelings or narratives or backstories.

    The upcoming Presidential election is a referendum, plain and simple. Not on a single question, more like two or three, but still more of a referendum than any other election in our lifetimes.

  44. 44
    Bokonon says:

    @MikeJ:

    I would guess Romney didn’t mention it because he doesn’t know he’s against the wind power credit. I doubt anybody told him what he believes on that issue.

    Oh … don’t give Romney credit for being ignorant. He knows his position. The guy is a top-down control freak. And this part week, the GOP members in Congress actually united behind Romney’s position when they voted against continuing the wind production tax credit. That sort of coordination takes work … particularly when you see the GOP voting against continuing an existing tax credit (and Grover Norquist keeps conspicuously and mysteriously silent).

    Strange, huh? Particularly when the GOP’s usual party line is that eliminating a subsidy or tax break, or letting one expire, is the SAME THING AS A TAX INCREASE.

    All signs point to a deliberate political hit on wind energy. Mitt’s position is just part of that hit job.

  45. 45
    jl says:

    @Dennis SGMM: I like “goals”, and even better “five goals”. I eagerly await the “mileposts”. then the Powerpoint slides and the PERT charts.

    I eagerly await Mitt going full management consultant in his pitch for this gig.

  46. 46
    Anya says:

    @jl: Mother of all McCarthyite tactics. Puts my feeble attempt to shame.

  47. 47
    Mary G says:

    I was at Costco yesterday and the guy who was helping to unload my cart was telling my cashier that he put off paying income tax until this month, and it’s so unfair that he is going to have to send the IRS $7,000 or $8,000.

    He was ramping up a big tea party speech trying to impress her. I just wanted to pay for my tomatoes and toilet paper, so I said to him that if he was Mitt Romney he’d only have to pay 14%. He actually shuddered a little and said…

    “That guy is too weird.”

    Then the cashier said…

    “Who’s Mitt Romney?”

    Gobsmacked, I was.

  48. 48
    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn says:

    Quasi topical:

    Mitt Romney on Thursday responded to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s allegation that the Republican nominee has not paid taxes over the last ten years, suggesting the White House was behind the attack. “It’s time for Harry to put up or shut up,” Romney said on Sean Hannity’s radio show, according to CNN.

    Uhm, no, Mittens. That’s not how that works.

  49. 49
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    jl says:

    @Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn:

    But Harry has ‘put up’ everything he has: some rich guy Bain investor calls ’em and says that, hey, that derned Romney paid no income taxes for years.

    Why should Harry shut up?

    Or, is Romney camp implying that they lost the returns and Harry found them in the dumpster?

  51. 51
    Raven says:

    @Mary G: They help you unload your cart there?

  52. 52

    @Dennis SGMM:
    He just forgot to mention that the 1.2E7 jobs he’s going to be creating will be part time, pay minimum wage, and not be subject to workplace safety standards.

  53. 53
    Bokonon says:

    If goals in those five areas are achieved, Romney said, it would create an estimated 12 million jobs, the Post reported.

    How come Romney is so sure of that 12 million figure? Is that really the number of people that they figure will be flipping burgers and mowing lawns and sweeping sidewalks when this low-tax nirvana is established, and Medicare and Medicaid are broken up and turned into block grant programs, and so on?

    And … come to think of it, isn’t 12 million jobs a pretty modest number in a nation of over 300 million, over a four year term?

    Phony numbers. Phony promises. Empty words, with a sinister shadow agenda waiting in the wings for implementation.

  54. 54
    Calouste says:

    So, 12 million jobs, in 4 years I assume? Is that even enough to keep up with population growth?

  55. 55

    @Davis X. Machina:

    The upcoming Presidential election is a referendum, plain and simple.

    No, it isn’t. Romney wants to make it a referendum plain and simple, because that is his only real chance of winning. Obama is doing his best- and a fairly effective one, at that- to make it an actual campaign that’s about both candidates and how well they’d do the job. That’s the fundamental dynamic of the campaign. If it’s about Obama and only Obama, Romney has a chance of winning. If it’s about comparing Obama to Romney, Obama is going to win walking away.

  56. 56
    Quaker in a Basement says:

    Romney pointed to energy independence, making sure the young have the skills to succeed, improving the U.S. trade system, cutting the national debt and championing small businesses.

    Wait, what? Cut the debt? He’s not just promising to balance the budget, he’s claiming he’s going to run a surplus and pay down the debt?

    While cutting taxes?

    Pull the left one now, Mitt. You stretched the right one too long.

  57. 57
    the Conster says:

    @Davis X. Machina:

    You keep saying that, and if it were a different Republican I would agree, but I think that Romney might be the worst candidate I’ve ever seen. He’s uniquely weird, unlikeable and secretive in a way that even the hard core nutjobs can’t abide. No one – NO ONE – likes him. By the time Obama’s team is done with him, he’ll be fetal because he has no intestinal fortitude, no guts, no soul. Trust me on this.

  58. 58
    Calouste says:

    @jl:

    I assume Reid already has his answer ready: “I’ll shut up when Romney does what his dad did and every presidential candidate since: release his tax returns for 10 years.”

  59. 59
    Caz says:

    @pseudonymous in nc: “obvious troll is obvious.”?? What does that even mean? What’s a troll? I don’t understand why the response to any one of my substantive, meritorious comments is “you’re a troll!” as if that totally negates any point I might have. As if anyone has more of a right to post comments on here than me, simply because I’m about the only non-liberal to even read this blog ever, lol.

  60. 60

    @efgoldman:

    Disqualifies anyone from managing anything bigger that an A&W root beer stand.

    Sadly, no.

  61. 61
    Jay in Oregon says:

    @Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn:
    Remember how when the birther allegations started and the conventional wisdom was that people who are accusing Obama of not being born in the U.S. had to deliver their evidence or stop making such outlandish claims?

    Yeah, me either.

  62. 62
    Bruce S says:

    Romney is starting to project Palinesque levels of disconnect from reality and incoherence. I honestly can’t remember a major presidential candidate this bad. Even Goldwater had more gravitas and personal charm, crazy as he was.

  63. 63
    Jay in Oregon says:

    @Roger Moore:
    How dare you say that!

    I see no evidence that Mittens wants people to earn even minimum wage.

    If company towns were good enough for our great-grandparents…

  64. 64

    @Jay in Oregon:

    I see no evidence that Mittens wants people to earn even minimum wage.

    I didn’t say that they’d pay today’s minimum wage.

  65. 65
    burnspbesq says:

    @Caz:

    substantive, meritorious comments

    We’re still waiting for one. We’ve been waiting a very long time. You are testing our patience.

  66. 66
    Josie says:

    @Caz: I’m sorry. I missed the substantive meritorious comment. Where was it? I always look forward to reading substantive meritorious commentary.

  67. 67
    burnspbesq says:

    @Caz:

    I like your response to Romney’s plan: “Nope, it won’t work.” Lol.

    Right. “We have always been at war with the Tax Policy Center. Now it’s time for the Two Minutes Hate.”

  68. 68
    PeakVT says:

    @Calouste: 12M is more than enough to keep up with population growth. But there’s zero reason to think Romney could get the economy to perform that well.

    Employment numbers are here if you want to browse them.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @efgoldman: That was a wonderful read. I want a cigarette now.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @jl:

    I like “goals”, and even better “five goals”. I eagerly await the “mileposts”. then the Powerpoint slides and the PERT charts.

    Somebody needs to dummy up a Rmoney Bingo card fast ( in time for the RNC or even better before the VP announcement).

  71. 71
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @efgoldman:

    I read somewhere, last few years, that the smartest generals in the Pentagon refuse to view PP presentations, and won’t allow their subordinates to prepare any.

    That’s so funny, because just a couple of years ago I saw David Petraeus give a huge PowerPoint presenta … Oh wIt.

  72. 72
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @efgoldman:

    I read somewhere, last few years, that the smartest generals in the Pentagon refuse to view PP presentations, and won’t allow their subordinates to prepare any.

    That’s so funny, because just a couple of years ago I saw David Petraeus give a huge PowerPoint presenta … Oh wait.

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    Dennis SGMM says:

    You guys are so pissy with the details. Here: the Romney administration will outsource the manufacture of 12 million shoe shine kits to China. They will be imported into the US at a profit for the the prophets and distributed at a modest cost. Bingo; 12 million jobs.

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    mainmati says:

    Turner’s one of my most favorite artists. “Terror and Beauty, the Slave Ships” is an exquisite explosion of color and mist. But there are so many others. His vision and imagination captured in his paintings are totally awesome.

    But to your point, Rmoney is all bullshit all the time. He has no tax plan that makes any sense – the Tax Policy Center gave him the benefit of the doubt and it was still a joke. He’s all about bullshit. his plan is to coast on the free-floating hatred of Obama by about 40% of the potential voting population because a) he’s black and b) he didn’t instantly cure the Great Recession and then hope bad times will makeup for the fact that he has nothing.

    Oh and voter suppression.

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    Bill Arnold says:

    @efgoldman:

    Baboons, Moon Quakers, and Other “Facts”

    “Moon Quakers” made me look. Interesting.

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    Another Halocene Human says:

    @Anne Laurie: I can relate! I was for Mondale at the tender age of four because picked a woman for his running mate. Mondale was boring and calm and I couldn’t understand a thing he said in the debate.

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    GG says:

    @Anne Laurie: I was 9 then, & have such a vivid memory of writing “Kennedy” in the snow on each step of the metal stairs on the back way up to our 2nd floor apartment, on the way back from school the afternoon after that election. And just being Happy. What scares me a bit is that I think actually remember my mother, who righteously loved Adlai Stevenson, waiting up for the inevitable result in ’56.

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    TenguPhule says:

    If this Mittastrophe is Caz’s Idea of a Plan, then peanut butter and jelly must also be Caz’s ideal for fine dining.

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    TenguPhule says:

    Cut the debt? He’s not just promising to balance the budget, he’s claiming he’s going to run a surplus and pay down the debt?

    If you’re going to lie, obviously go big.

    Yet another reason, Bush and Cheney need to be burned alive in a public square, and then their spouses and spawns of darkness thrown after for good measure.

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    LanceThruster says:

    @pseudonymous in nc:

    Now I feel really stupid because it wasn’t all that obvious to me. I thought it was more of a dignified response than Rmoney’s plan deserved…but totally accurate.

    As Emily Litella might say…

    “Never mind.”

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    LanceThruster says:

    @TenguPhule:

    PB&J can be nutritious enough to sustain a person. The Mittarded one’s plan would be more like pizza made from cardboard, red poster paint, and sawdust “cheeze”; that is… merely a placeholder in the belly where actual “food” is supposed to go.

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    LanceThruster says:

    @Another Halocene Human:

    I feel guilty that I didn’t warm to Fritz more at the time (though I did vote the Mondale/Ferraro ticcket). I’ve read some of his positions on church/state separation and thought they were brilliant (the basis for this view found here – http://www.religion-online.org.....title=1429 – didn’t find what he actually wrote on it yet).

    He is a good man.

    “Today, the religion clauses of the First Amendment do not need to be fixed; they need to be followed.”
    — Walter Mondale, Vice President, address to B’nai B’rith, Washington DC, September 6, 1984

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