Mean Girls


Former Vice President Dick Cheney said it was “a mistake” for Arizona Senator John McCain to pick Sarah Palin as his vice-presidential running mate in 2008. […]

Palin was “an attractive candidate” but the fact that she’d served as Alaska governor for less than two years raised questions about her “being ready to take over” as president, Cheney said.

“I think that was a mistake,” he said.


“I’m always glad to get comments four years later,” McCain told Fox News, laughing. “Look, I respect the vice president. He and I had strong disagreements as to whether we should torture people or not. I don’t think we should have.”

As to which one is Cady and which one is Regina, that’s your call.

55 replies
  1. 1
    Wag says:

    All I can say is good for McCain. I don’t say that often, but he has earned a round of applause

  2. 2
    FormerSwingVoter says:

    I find it absolutely revolting that Cheney is allowed to show his face in public. What a horrible, horrible person.

  3. 3
    Marcelo says:

    Too band McCain didn’t keep that position in 08 when he was running for President. He eagerly rolled over, rubber stamped Bush, and voted against a torture ban in 2008.

    He loves to trot out the “I’m against torture” line when he doesn’t have to please neocons, but it’s too bad he didn’t have the balls to actually vote that way.

  4. 4
    schrodinger's cat says:

    Sexist comment is sexist, comparing Darth Cheney and Grumpy McCain to girls is an insult to girls, mean or otherwise.

  5. 5
    Cassidy says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: So I guess wondering when they’ll make up with a steamy, lesbian sex scene is too far?

  6. 6
    japa21 says:

    @Wag: Not from me. After all he ” respect(s) the vice president.” Anybody who respects Cheney in any way gets no applause from me.

  7. 7
    BGinCHI says:

    More like Statler and Waldorf, but with gigantic influence over world events.

    Grumpy Old White Men, the poor man’s quiet destroyers.

  8. 8
    Marcelo says:


    Ehn. McCain is only saying that because it’s prudent. He had an opportunity to vote in 2008 to limit interrogations to the Army Field Manual. He had publicly supported it numerous times. The bill passed, but McCain voted no on it. When push comes to shove he’s a right-winger trying to sell you a bridge.

  9. 9
    scav says:

    I’m sure this didn’t actually happen. St. Ronny will be in shortly to make them kiss his icon, commandments, and then each other. They are in total Lockstep agreement retroactively.

  10. 10
    schrodinger's cat says:

    @Cassidy: eewww, I need some brain bleach.

    ETA: BTW how is the quitting of the cancer stick coming along?

  11. 11
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    “He and I had strong disagreements as to whether we should torture people or not. I don’t think we should have.”

    Well, John, sorry, but you fucked up. You embraced the war criminal, and the war criminal figurehead when they were doing it, because you had to have “your turn” at running for President and needed their acquiescence to do so.

    So, you listened to your ambition, not to the remnants of your honor.

    You could have been a shining beacon in a dark time. But you were not. Your abject slavery to your ambition killed your honor.

    A bit late to be bringing it up. The bell was rung and you didn’t do a damn thing to get in the way of it being rung.

  12. 12
    comrade scott's agenda of rage says:


    Pretty much.

    I’m amazed anybody bothered to interview the Unindicted War Criminal. I mean the rest of the party treats 2001-2009 as the Presidency That Never Was so it must kill them anytime a prominent member of the Administration That Never Was opens their mouth to a willing member of the stenographer corps.

  13. 13
    Culture of Truth says:

    The GOP Congress and President Barack Obama have agreed on a $1 trillion plan to fund the U.S. government through March of 2013.

  14. 14
    shortstop says:

    Oh, is McCain against torture again these days? So hard for a girl to keep up.

  15. 15
    cathyx says:

    I respect someone who tortured people, even though I’m against torturing people.

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    Cassidy says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: What? You haven’t watched late night Showtime?

    Haven’t had a cigarette in two weeks. I’m still using the e-cigs, but i’m going longer and longer without a nicotine fix, so I’m lsowly weaning myself away from that.

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    Culture of Truth says:

    Senator DeMint said that he and other Tea Party-backed lawmakers told Boehner they would support a six-month spending bill to avoid a fight over government funding.

  18. 18
    David Hunt says:


    He loves to trot out the “I’m against torture” line when he doesn’t have to please neocons, but it’s too bad he didn’t have the balls to actually vote that way

    With the exception of a few specific votes, McCain has always been a bog-standard conservative Republican. The whole “maverick” bit is is good PR and hyping not-so-odious things that anyone human could agree on. He then votes the Republican Party line. He’s basically Arlen Specter except that the media likes him more.

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    redshirt says:

    The Dark Lord also called Obama one of the weakest Presidents ever – even weaker than Carter! And oh yeah, he did all the work to get OBL. Obama just stole it.

    Go Darth!

  20. 20
    dmsilev says:

    @Culture of Truth: Impure! RINOs! Cast them out!

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    @Cassidy: Actually I haven’t but the image of McCain and Cheney going at it, is an image that made me go, do not want.

    No cigarette for 2 weeks, that’s definitely good going.

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    dmsilev says:

    By the way, it’s depressingly hilarious that Mitt Romney’s “Hear my Veep decision” app is sorted in the Business section of the iTunes App Store.

    And looks hideous.

  23. 23
    Mike G says:

    “He and I had strong disagreements as to whether we should torture people or not.”

    “Then I voted for torture anyway, because deep down I’m a gutless party hack.”

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    scav says:

    OT but may start rhyming in the mean girl event. NBCensorship and Twitter the Twit might be working up to words. (or already had them in quiet rooms). You started it! No, YOU did!! Did Not. Did So-o. dear dear dear dear dear dear.

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    Culture of Truth says:

    If he’s against torturing people then why is always on when I watch Meet The Press??

  26. 26
    Bruce S says:

    When two assholes start dissing each other, I can only suggest that they are both right.

  27. 27
    flukebucket says:

    I saw where Liz Cheney tweeted that she hated to disagree with the best VP ever but Palin was more qualified than Obama and Biden combined.

  28. 28
    KG says:

    I still wonder, some times, how things would have played out if McCain won the nomination in 2000.

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    Redshift says:

    @dmsilev: Pretty telling that on the same day the Obama campaign released an app that helps you participate in the campaign, organize your neighborhood, and keep up on ongoing campaign news, the Romney campaign releases a one-note app that… tries to get you excited about the shiny object he’s been trying to use to distract the press for a month.

    In ’08, IIRC, the Obama campaign let you sign up for a text message to do the same thing. Because that’s how much effort it actually requires.

    How much you wanna bet that when Romney does announce his unexciting pick the news will be out on Twitter before anybody gets notified through the app?

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    gbear says:

    Former Vice President Dick Cheney said it was “a mistake” for Arizona Senator John McCain to pick Sarah Palin as his vice-presidential running mate in 2008

    Remember, when Cheney was vetting VP candidates for Bush he was so selective that he had to reject every possible choice other than himself.

    I’m sure that he wasn’t at all swayed by the realization that he could feed buckets of money into his companies as an overbearing VP for an idiot boss.

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    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us? (formerly MarkJ) says:

    Neither is Cady – Cady was a good person who went temporarily astray. I’d say McCain is Gretchen – capable of exhibiting redeeming qualities once in a blue moon, but still stupid enough to pick Karen (the really stupid plastic) as a running mate. Cheney is Regina, but not as nice and not nearly as competent.

  32. 32
    AxelFoley says:

    Oh, snap! McCain with the roundhouse kick!

  33. 33
    SRW1 says:

    These tough R-guys sure know how to bear a grudge. What puzzles me, though, is how Sarah can keep quiet about the insult. I’d like to see her and Dark Vader duke it out.

  34. 34
    redshirt says:

    @flukebucket: Hilarious, wasn’t it?

    The truly intriguing part: Do you think she believes this, or is saying it for obvious political reasons?

  35. 35
    dmsilev says:

    @SRW1: The phrase “root for injuries” comes to mind in that scenario.

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    GregB says:

    Was this the same Dick Cheney who was Vice President when America suffered the worst terrorist attack in history, followed by a months long bedwetting national freakout, followed by a series of anthrax attacks followed by the start of the longest open ended military conflict in US history followed by the worst US military strategic fuck up ever in Iraq followed by North Korea going nuclear followed by a Russian invasion into Georgia that was met with a mild pee-pee slap in the form of some sternly worded communiques all in the 8 years wherein the perp of the worst attack in US history remained on the run and still plotting attacks against Americans?

    That Dick Cheney?

  37. 37
    redshirt says:

    @GregB: Up is down, black is white, war is peace, yadda yadda.

    Facts mean nothing to these craven miscreants.

  38. 38
    NotMax says:

    @David Hunt

    The whole “maverick” bit is is good PR

    Always felt it the most delicious irony that there really is an actual place called Maverick, Arizona.
    It’s a ghost town.

  39. 39
    Rafer Janders says:

    Man, it’s like the Iran-Iraq War. You’re kind of rooting for everyone to lose….

  40. 40
    Jay in Oregon says:

    I can’t believe this is actually from the Romney campaign, because they didn’t charge for it.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Jay in Oregon: Don’t worry. There’s a prominent ‘Donate’ button and for the app to work at all you have to sign up with an account that gives the Romney campaign all of your demographic info.

    Personally, I’m just amazed that they managed to write an app that didn’t accidentally run afoul of Apple’s review process.

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    flukebucket says:

    @redshirt: I cannot make myself believe that anybody would actually believe that. I cannot even figure out why anybody would say it for political reasons since saying it makes you look like one of the dumbest people alive.

  43. 43
    redshirt says:

    @flukebucket: I can get why she’d say it – the live in an alternate reality and you’ve got to play to that reality. Now, believing it? Would it be cynical or optimistic to hope the Liz Cheney’s of the Wingnuttery don’t believe what they are saying? I’m not sure what’s worse.

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    mai naem says:

    Dick Cheney is an evil incompetent POS a*hole fcukhead who took a heart that should have clearly gone to somebody more deserving. His spawn are just as bad. I am glad god gave him a gay daughter. I have absolutely no doubt that he would be a total wingnut about gay rights if his daughter was not gay.

  45. 45
    Ash Can says:

    Hey, Dick! Did you hear what McCain said about you? Are you gonna be a wimp and take that lying down? Huh?

    ::munches popcorn::

  46. 46
    Ash Can says:

    @mai naem: God only knows what he might have done to gays both here and abroad by now if not for his gay daughter.

  47. 47

    Much as I enjoy hearing Dick Cheney point out that Sarah Palin is unqualified for the presidency, it only lasts a second. Cheney doesn’t care that Palin is incompetent to lead, he only cares that she contributed to his team’s loss.

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    Jay in Oregon says:

    I don’t know what Apple’s guidelines are for apps connected to political campaigns or charities, but I wonder if the Donate button violates Apple’s policy of “we get a cut of every dime you collect”.

    I wonder how you flag an app for review…

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    moops says:

    Everyone can score points off Cheney now. Nobody fears him at this point. I’m surprised Sarah doesn’t talk some smack about him to get herself some media coverage. Is she on record for or against torture (can’t remember). If it wouldn’t poison her base support she could start calling him a war criminal and get buckets of attention.

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    Kane says:

    Cheney argues that selecting Sarah Palin as VP was a mistake because she was governor for less than two years. Fair enough. By this calculation, how then is Mitt Romney qualified to be president? In serving only one-term as governor, Romney is the least experienced major-party presidential nominee in more than 70 years.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @Jay in Oregon:

    I wonder if the Donate button violates Apple’s policy of “we get a cut of every dime you collect”.

    Who says they aren’t getting one?

  52. 52
    Gus says:

    @flukebucket: Apparently Cheney has some political ambitions. Say what you will about train wrecks like Sharon Angle and Christine O’Donnell, in the right circumstances (a close race in a tea partying state/district) a Palin endorsement for public office can be a positive.

  53. 53
    Mike in NC says:

    Clearly this thing needs to be settled by a good old fashioned duel. RPGs at 20 paces?

  54. 54
    TenguPhule says:

    Clearly this thing needs to be settled by a good old fashioned duel. RPGs at 20 paces?

    Better yet, suicide vests at one. With their kin and kindred packed in nice and close for maximum gene pool cleanage.

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    Bruce S says:


    By Liz Cheney standards, that’s probably true. Palin could have continued the cherished Cheney family tradition of pacts with the devil, turning everything into shit and lying about it. Totally qualified.

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