Well you’ve heard about the Boston

Today’s Game Seven between the Sixers and Celtics is the first Game Seven between the two teams since 30 years and two months ago, the legendary “Beat LA” game where the Celtics fans chanted “Beat LA” at the Sixers as the Sixers closed the game out with a double digit lead. Although I’m Celtics fan — and was a big one back in the day, when the game was played right (more passing, less defense) — that was one of my all-time favorite games. And “Boston Strangler” has to be about the best sports nickname ever.

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  1. 1
    Raven says:

    I’m trying to convince the princess she needs to keep sewing so I can watch it!

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    Raven says:

    The game is better now than it was a few years ago.

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    Raven says:

    Rondo blows the crip and then fouls!

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    piratedan says:

    thanks to cable, have usa vs scotland on the telly

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    Raven says:

    The first thread about the NBA since the playoffs started and we get soccer comments!

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    Raven says:

    It’s so weird to watch a veteran NBA coach who you watched play in high school!

    actually both of them. My dad coached where Collins played in the early 50’s.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Raven: I’m not watching either. Does that count?

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    piratedan says:

    sorry, the nba doesn’t even resemble the game i played as a teenager

    players routinely travel, palm and go over the back indiscriminately. I understand that they are incredibly athletic but the rules I played by are non-existent in the pro game. hence, I don’t watch it.

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    Raven says:

    @piratedan: good for you, my dad was bitching about those things 25 years ago.

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    piratedan says:

    goal usa! Donovan in the 3rd minute

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    piratedan says:

    @Raven: sorry man, I’ll get off your thread…. no harm intended.

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    Raven says:

    @piratedan: Aw man I’m just fuckin around. The lack of interest in the NBA here is pretty deep.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Raven:

    The game is better now than it was a few years ago.

    Oh GAWD no! When the over/under total for both teams is <180, or even 175? Boring, boring, boring. I've been a Celts fan since the Russel/Cousy/Heinsohn/Auerbach teams. Somewhere I still have my ticket stub from the Washington's birthday 173-139 [regular season] victory over the Elgin Baylor Lakers.
    I'm copy/pasting Bob Ryan's column today, because it is paywalled:

    We’re not talking about a Boston-Philly series that will live forever in any kind of fond memory — not around here, anyway — but one way or the other the Celtics and 76ers have lurched into a Game 7.
    And let’s just put it this way: These guys will have a lot to live up to Saturday night.
    There have been 21 previous Game 7s in the two Gardens, and among them are some of the most famous games, and some of the most spectacular performances, in both Celtics and NBA history.
    Here’s a sampling:
    1. April 13, 1957 – Boston 125, St. Louis 123 (2 OTs)
    The first Game 7 in Celtics history is still regarded by old-timers as the best. Start with the fact that this is the only series of any length in NBA annals to begin and end with the same score: 125-123, two overtimes.
    The rookie Bill Russell is magnificent with 32 rebounds and a game-saving block of a Jack Coleman sneakaway attempt in the final minute, but the men who carry the Celtics to the NBA title in the second OT are Frank Ramsey, whose basket makes it 124-121 and provides the winning cushion, and Tom Heinsohn, who soldiers on after Russell fouls out and winds up with 37 points and 23 rebounds. Heinsohn, like Russell, is a rookie, but a rookie whose performance prompts Bill Sharman to say, “I never saw such a game played by a man under pressure.’’
    Globe columnist Jerry Nason ranks it among the all-time Boston sports highlights, the first four being Mel Hill’s sudden-death goal in the eighth minute of the third overtime of a 1939 Stanley Cup triumph over Montreal; BC’s 1941 Sugar Bowl victory over Tennessee; Johnny Sain’s 1-0 victory over Bob Feller in the 1948 World Series; and Sandy Saddler’s bloody conquest of Willie Pep in a 1951 bout, one of their four confrontations.
    2. April 1, 1959 – Boston 130, Syracuse 125
    Heinsohn loves this game. The Celtics come from 16 down, go up by 7, fall behind by a point, and nail it down when the Cooz dribbles the clock down before firing in a one-hander to make it 124-121. The great Dolph Schayes has 35 for the Nats.
    3. April 5, 1962 – Boston 109, Philadelphia 107
    A fiery series ends with a Sam Jones winner over an onrushing Wilt Chamberlain with two seconds remaining. The Lakers are already in town for the Finals and are present at the game. Says Jerry West, “That was the greatest game I’ve ever seen.’’ He also notes that no one other than Russell could have held Wilt to 22.
    4. April 18, 1962 – Boston 110, Los Angeles 107 (OT)
    5. This is the Frank Selvy game. Open from the left side with a chance to win in regulation, the Lakers guard misses. Russell takes it from there, dominating the OT while finishing with – pay attention, young’uns – 30 points and 40 rebounds. Elgin Baylor has 41 points and West has 35. In defeat. Always. Boston has Russell, and they don’t.
    6. April 10, 1963 – Boston 142, Cincinnati 131
    Now that’s an NBA score. Jones, perhaps the most underrated great player in NBA history, has 47. Heinsohn has a quiet 31.
    7. April 15, 1965 – Boston 110, Philadelphia 109
    Havlicek Stole The Ball, and no more need be said.
    8. April 28, 1966 – Boston 95, Los Angeles 93
    Red Auerbach’s last game. Crazy ending, with the Celtics allowing a 10-point lead to droop as fans ring the floor, even spilling liquids onto the parquet. Still have my loge ticket stub. Three bucks. Jones makes a long two-hand set, if you can believe that.
    9. May 3, 1981 – Boston 91, Philadelphia 90
    Context, context, context. With 1:43 remaining in Game 5, the Sixers, leading the series, 3-1, are 6 up with the ball. But the Celtics rally to win in OT, come from 17 back at Philly in Game 6 (the comeback sparked by Cedric Maxwell’s trip to the stands), and then hold the Sixers to 1 point in their final 10 possessions of Game 7 after Philly goes up by 7 with 5:24 to go. Larry Bird’s rare and inexplicable banker at 1:03 breaks an 89-89 tie. “I wanted the ball in my hands,’’ he said. “That’s the only place I wanted it.’’
    10. May 13, 1984 – Boston 121, New York 104
    Don’t mess with Larry: A 39-12-10 triple-double to finish off a tumultuous series with the Bernard King-led Knicks. Says New York coach Hubie Brown, “His performance was beyond description.’’ It’s almost downright depressing to think that there are basketball fans among us who never saw Larry Bird play. Of course, it’s the same with Bobby Orr.
    11. May 30, 1987 – Boston 117, Detroit 114
    How about a 36-34 fourth quarter? Bird’s 39-9-9 includes a 13-foot lefty banker, just because (3,000 miles away, several Lakers fell off their chairs watching). Big Three totals: 75 points and 30 rebounds. This one features the Vinnie Johnson-Adrian Dantley collision and is most remembered elsewhere for the postgame, when Dennis Rodman and Isiah Thomas questioned Bird’s greatness on the basis of race.
    The game’s final tie (91-91) is broken on a Danny Ainge sixth-chance jumper, five shots, five rebounds, and 11 passes after the Celtics get the ball. The Celtics score on 12 of their final 14 possessions. Chuck Daly’s take: “You cannot see better basketball. Anybody want to talk about any other level of basketball after seeing this?’’
    12. May 22, 1988 – Boston 118, Atlanta 116
    Yup, the Bird-’Nique Shootout. Dominique Wilkins scores 15 of his 47 in the fourth. Larry shoots 9 for 10 and scores 20 of his 34 in the fourth. McHale goes for 33 and 13, Doc Rivers submits 16 points and 18 assists, and Randy Wittman shoots 11 for 13. Ready for this? The teams shoot a combined 59 percent. But that’s nothing compared to the fact they score 234 points while turning it over 15 times – total.
    It almost sounds like basketball science fiction.
    13. May 18, 2008 – Boston 97, Cleveland 92
    LeBron James and Paul Pierce channel their inner ’Nique and Bird, scoring 45 and 41, respectively. But the game’s key basket, a jumper making it 91-88, Boston, with 1:21 remaining, is scored by P.J. Brown. Says Kevin Garnett of his teammate: “Tonight it was very simple. Get the ball to Paul Pierce and get the hell out of his way. That’s exactly what it was. No need for you to ask me no questions. That was the game plan; this is what we did.’’
    Based on what we’ve seen in this series, there’s little chance of any history being made Saturday night. But it is a Game 7, and gosh darn it, maybe someone will fool us.

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    piratedan says:

    @Raven: well i have to admit, I still watch the college game but I admit the pros lost me a long time ago….

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    piratedan says:

    2-0 USA Bradley with a 20 yard strike!

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    Raven says:

    @efgoldman: I’m not sure I get the point? Not enough scoring I guess, right?

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    Raven says:

    @piratedan: I am by no means a big NBA fan, I only watch it during baseball season.

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    piratedan says:

    2-1 Scotland comes back on an own goal from USA’s Cameron

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    CrazyTrain says:

    Too bad that Philly didn’t beat LA in the finals that year! And too bad the Lakers owned the Celtics in the 80s and are the far superior franchise historically.

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    Raven says:

    @piratedan: What’s cool about soccer is that, whatever they get eliminated from, they just keep playing.

    eta Isn’t one of the main themes of “Trainspotting” how awful Scotland is at soccer?

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    efgoldman says:

    @Raven:

    Not enough scoring I guess, right?

    Not enough scoring,, not enough rebounding, not enough ball movement, way too much 1/1 play. Never mind the Celtics of yore, think about the Showtime Lakers of the Magic/Kareem era. I hated them, but damn they were fun to watch.

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    piratedan says:

    @Raven: i have to admit to liking the Premiership format of relegation and promotion… makes games meaningful

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    gaz says:

    OT: Whoever says wingnuts are humorless has never met the creator of this

    Just sayin’

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    Raven says:

    @piratedan: Is that like when Chelsea is 4th and wins the whole enchilada last week?

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    BigSouthern says:

    I love, love, love defense…it’s one of the reasons I enjoy watching my VCU Rams play these past few seasons (other than they’re my VCU Rams). Steals and blocked shots are the best thing ever, and I can never decide which I love more – an on-the-run steal or a shot attempt pinned to the backboard. I enjoy a flawlessly executed three as much as the next guy, but not nearly as thoroughly as watching that three get stuffed.

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    Raven says:

    @efgoldman: The big wheel keeps on turning.

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    Raven says:

    @BigSouthern: I’m hoping my Illini recover from the Shaka snub.

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    efgoldman says:

    Stockton (whom I’ve hated for decades) on the Fox national broadcast of the Red Sox, just said that the “monster” seats on top of Fenway’s left-field wall are “some of the greatest views in baseball.”
    Its a lie worthy of Mittster. They are wickedly overpriced bleacher seats with obstructed views.

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    BigSouthern says:

    @Raven: We both know Illni is going to get along just fine. I’m super excited for the morale his decision is going to bring to VCU. I’m not sure he’ll ever take them to a title and I’m not sure he won’t, but I think his decision makes VCU as a team look more important and I hope that transfers to the school as a whole. Richmond loves the guy and it’s nice that someone finally loves Richmond in return.

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    piratedan says:

    @Raven: well Chelsea won the Champions league competition in the same week where Man City won the premiership, call Chelsea’s win the playoff championship, thee super bowl and Man City’s win the league pennant. Both are treasured. The drama was in the fact that Man City went from 2nd place to first place in two minutes with two goals and at the same time other teams were fighting to stay up in the big leagues for the big tv revenue, so drama at the top and bottom of the league

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    Raven says:

    @BigSouthern: Yea, I didn’t thing he was ever going to leave for Illinois. I moved from there 27 years ago and, as much as I love it as my home, I’d never move back there. As accomplished as he and his wife are, moving from Richmond to the corn fields was not an option. My wife lived in the Fan for 8 years and loved it.

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    Raven says:

    @piratedan: I watched em both, I really enjoy it and readily admit I know about as much about the game as I do the nutty structure.

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    DougJ says:

    @efgoldman: Amen. If loving Worthy, Magjc, and Kareem is wrong I don’t want to be right.

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    joel hanes says:

    honey, it’s not one of those

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    Raven says:

    @DougJ: And Rambis!

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    Sorry to queer the b-ball thread, but I couldn’t care less.

    I’m just pissed that the Yankees are in town and they’ve been spanking my A’s like a high-priced dominatrix. I just had to go somewhere to let loose with a hearty FUCK THE YANKEES.

    That is all.
    +1

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    msj says:

    I have to disagree the Monster seats are amazing. Overpriced sure, but what isn’t at Fenway these days?

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    BigSouthern says:

    @Raven: Hey! It’s always good to meet someone else who’s passed through the River City and has nice things to say about it, especially since to be completely honest it’s kinda shitty (which is part of the charm, if you ask me). I could have seen him taking the move as a step up in his career much like his predecessors at VCU, but I’m glad he didn’t.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Polish the Guillotines: I can definitely get behind that sentiment.

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    Raven says:

    @BigSouthern: She was there in the early 80’s and, by all accounts, partied like a mofo. Ever hear of Tatoo Tribe? Her good pal fronted them.

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    Raven says:

    @Yutsano: Your just trying to get attention between fixes. :)

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    Cacti says:

    This series would be more exciting if it weren’t between the 4th and 5th best teams left in the playoffs.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Raven: Heh. Just took the next round of meds. And I’m close to running out although I see the doc on Tuesday and I’m hoping he re-ups the pills. Although I’m trying to remember if the farmacia here already has the order.

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    Raven says:

    @Cacti: Balls said the Queen. . .

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    Raven says:

    Jo Jo White!

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    Linda Featheringill says:

    I had an encounter once upon a time in Boston with a guy who tried to strangle me. His mistake was that he approached from the front, probably so he could watch my face. But there are several things you can do to protect yourself from an attacker in front of you and so I did some of that and scooted on out of there. That’s been a while, of course.

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    Raven says:

    @Linda Featheringill: One Hung Low.

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    Geoduck says:

    I wasn’t much of a basketball fan even before the Sonics got carted off to Oklahoma City. Now people in Seattle are trying to bring the NBA back to town. Sigh..

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    efgoldman says:

    @Linda Featheringill:

    I had an encounter once upon a time in Boston….

    Holy shit! I guess there’s no “good” place to post something like that.
    Where? When?

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    Raven says:

    @efgoldman: I saw the Allman Brothers on the Common on Tuesday, August 17, 1971.

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    piratedan says:

    Goal USA 3-1 Donovan’s 2nd 59th minute

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    efgoldman says:

    @Raven:

    Tuesday, August 17, 1971.

    I think I was working and living in Albany that year.

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    piratedan says:

    USA Goal 4-1 Donovan with the hat trick in the 64th minute

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    Rooting for San Antonio myself. The Spurs have basically won four championships, very quietly, with no flash. (Ok maybe Tony Parker) but still a very classy team, if they win this this will be their last as a team. One question, is the European Championship in Poland qualifying for the World Cup?

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    bk says:

    Hat trick for Donovan!

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    Ronnie P says:

    @Raven:

    Jo Jo White worked for the same supermarket chain as I did when I was in high school. He was in the main office (HR?), but I remember him being in the store around Christmas and even jumping in to help bag groceries when the lines built up.

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    smintheus says:

    @Linda Featheringill: I was nearly strangled when I was about 10, by a massive drunken guy with anger issues. He had his huge hands wrapped around my throat like a vise I couldn’t break, his throat was way too big for me to try to strangle him back, so eventually I did the only thing I could think of that might possibly save me. I grabbed his windpipe with my fingers and twisted it hard. He let go instantly and I got away.

    The aftermath with the police was, if anything, even more bizarre.

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    piratedan says:

    5-1 USA Jermaine Jones with the header…… haven’t ever seen the USA look this aggressive on the pitch

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    Ronnie P says:

    Rooting for San Antonio myself. The Spurs have basically won four championships, very quietly, with no flash. (Ok maybe Tony Parker) but still a very classy team, if they win this this will be their last as a team. One question, is the European Championship in Poland qualifying for the World Cup?

    No.

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    Linnaeus says:

    I confess I’m not paying much attention to the NBA playoffs. I’m mostly watching the NHL, though I’m quite disappointed to see that the New Jersey Devils are in the finals. Guess I’ll be cheering for the Kings.

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    mainmati says:

    My Dad was a classmate of Bob Cousy at Holy Cross and with all my relatives being from MA I have a long-standing fondness for the Celtics, especially during the Bill Russell era.

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    Linda Featheringill says:

    @efgoldman:

    1980. I think this was about a generation after the famous Strangler. I was thinking of moving to Boston but decided that I was just passing through. It’s a shame, though. Good looking town.

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    Linda Featheringill says:

    @smintheus:

    It is very difficult to defend yourself when you are a child. Actually, the windpipe thing was very clever, I think.

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    smintheus says:

    @efgoldman:

    Not enough scoring…

    I think the problem with pro b-ball has always been the opposite, too much scoring too easily, to the point where a basket rarely seems to matter very much. Ease of scoring is what makes playing fun on a summer evening, but watching the same few plays spun out over and over on your TV screen gets kinda dull. Even back in my playing days in the ’70s I could barely sit and watch a full game before going stir crazy.

    I think hockey and soccer have the balance about right, a small number of hard fought scores played out over a largish playing area.

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    Linda Featheringill says:

    So we have two different conversations going on presently. A stranger would probably think we’re very strange, all of us. And he/she might be right. :-)

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    smintheus says:

    @Linda Featheringill: Thanks, all these years later I’m still proud of that stunt. May have saved my life.

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    Raven says:

    @Linda Featheringill: And not one comment about the Stones.

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    Linnaeus says:

    @Raven:

    Talkin’ bout the Midnight Rambler….

    (there you go!)

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    Linda Featheringill says:

    @Raven:

    And not one comment about the Stones.

    Oh, no, don’t do that.

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    Raven says:

    @Linda Featheringill: Well, that’s where the title of the thread is from.

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    Davis X. Machina says:

    @mainmati: From personal experience I will tell you anybody from the Holy Cross class of ’49 who later had a son or daughter who was a little short at the bursar’s and couldn’t take exams, or needed air fare to bail Worcester for Christmas or in May, Cousy took care of them.

    He’s Dr. Cousy there. It’s an honorary doctorate, sure, but on Mr. St. James, it’s real.

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    Ronnie P says:

    Huddersfield win!!

    OK, I know it’s basically the third division English soccer and a replay of a match earlier today, but it came down to 11 rounds of penalties with the keepers taking the last shots.

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    honus says:

    You know, fact is the 76ers lost that ’82 final to the Lakers…

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    Mike E says:

    Sixer fan since the acquisition of Dr. J…we could not get over the hump until the big guy arrived, Moses Malone, then it was fo’, fie, fo’…Andrew Toney was the pre-Jordan, until his feet ‘sploded.

    ETA They beat the Lakers 4-0 in ’83, Mo Cheeks pulling down the rim on the final basket

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    Raven says:

    @Mike E: Manchild in the Promise Land.

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    Raven says:

    @Mike E: Remind me, Cheeks kept the rock on what could have been a final jam for the Doc on a breakaway?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    This is tangentially related to the Sports thread topic: I’m staying at an inexpensive Hampton Inn in Little Rock, AR, on the way home from my huge road trip. When I checked in a couple of hours ago the place was deserted — maybe five or six cars in the entire parking lot. Then came the invasion: dozens and dozens and DOZENS of little girls and medium-sized girls and big girls, and a few bemused little boys, and adults of both sexes, all wearing red t-shirts with the word CHAOS emblazoned on the front.

    I think they are some kind of sports-like team on some kind of road-like trip. Just guessin’. And curiously, their vans and cars all seem to have Georgia plates, so I imagine they’re home folks.

    Noisy? Rude? Funny you should ask. Good thing it’s a holiday weekend and I’m on no kind of schedule or I might be miffed.

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    Spaghetti Lee says:

    Dang. I was kind of rooting for the Sixers, just to shake things up. Is it just me or is the NBA the most aristocratic of all the sports? It seems like every generation it’s the same 5 or 6 teams taking whacks at the title, year after year, while the rest of the teams just mope around in purgatory. Oh well, guess I’m rooting for the Thunder, then. I’m sick of the other three.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @smintheus:

    I have never been strangled, nor had anyone Ttempt it, but for years and years — probably from the time I was 6 or 7 until I was well into my 30s — I had recurring dreams about being chased and startled with wire coat hangers.

    What do you suppose THAT was all about, Dr. Freud?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Let’s try that again, since there seems to be no edit function:

    I have never been strangled, nor had anyone attempt it, but for years and years—probably from the time I was 6 or 7 until I was well into my 30s—I had recurring dreams about being chased and strangled with wire coat hangers.

    What do you suppose THAT was all about, Dr. Freud?

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    Mike E says:

    @Raven: Exactly. Julius called for the ball on a two on nothing, and Mo slammed it one-handed, pulling down the rim in clear violation of NBA rules. He then yelled, “Yeeaahh!” as he covorted down the floor to his teammates. World Fucking Champions! Dr. J didn’t begrudge him that last play. They would join the ’67 team as two of the 10 greatest teams of all time (the earlier 76ers team had Wilt and Billy Cunningham).

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    smintheus says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I dunno, was your family connected to the mob? Or own a wire hanger manufacturing plant?

    Odd thing was my attack never gave me nightmares, I just shrugged it off…maybe because I was so angry at the police for refusing to arrest the man.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @piratedan:

    Seconded. I know the game has “evolved,” but sometimes I see some guy lumber all the way down the lane for a slam without dribbling and I think, WTF.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Raven:

    Your dad was right.

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    GregB says:

    Put on your schadenfreude hats, it seems the second in command in the NH GOP House has abruptly resigned and is now facing accusations from a fellow GOPer that he forged documents in order to obtain his law license.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Was Joan Crawford your stepmother?

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    BigSouthern says:

    @Raven: Tattoo Tribe is a bit before my time, but it should do you both good to know that Richmond still has a fairly strong indie scene, and is still – as I’m sure was the case in the 80s but correct me if I’m wrong – hosting bands in abandoned buildings.

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    catclub says:

    @Spaghetti Lee: As far as title holders, it is pretty limited over the past 10-12 years:
    Spurs, LA, Miami, Dallas, Boston.
    ETA: Detroit stopped LA from threepeat.

    But for making it to the finals, there are a few more.

    The Spurs won their titles against: Detroit, Cleveland, Nets and
    (I think) Knicks.

    LA won against Both Boston and Orlando

    Dallas and Miami have wins

    In any case I think Spurs -OKC will be a great series, and if the winner of that series is not overall champs I will be shocked.

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