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And more wine foil art!

Previous wine foil art here. I’m gonna have to start a Tumblr page for that. I may be the finest (only) wine foil artist on the planet today. (I just know someone is going to burst my bubble by linking to wine foil masterpieces produced by others…)

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    jeffreyw says:

    The Big Red Dog!

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    That’s a very skinny elephant.

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    Quaker in a Basement says:

    You seem to have a plentiful supply of material.

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    jibeaux says:

    It’s lovely.
    I’m going to assume this is open thread so I can cut and paste this actual quote of Mitt Romney’s: “I’m not familiar precisely with exactly what I said, but I stand by what I said, whatever it was.”
    I nominate this for his campaign slogan. You know, to combat those flip-flopper charges.

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    Linda Featheringill says:

    This artwork takes place as the wine is being consumed, yes?

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    j says:

    Looks like the Ricketts have hit the thickets. Rahm MAD!

    Asked whether the flap will affect the Wrigley rebuild, Mr. Emanuel replied, “I’ll have some conversations on that later — comments, rather.”

    A source close to the mayor confirms that that remark was indeed Freudian. Mr. Emanuel is “livid” with the family’s “blatant hypocrisy,” that source says. The Ricketts have tried to contact him, my source adds, but the mayor “does not want to talk with them today, tomorrow or anytime soon.”

    Read more:
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    redshirt says:

    There used to be a guy (maybe still is) in Portland ME who’d trawl the bars on weekends making aluminum foil sculptures for folks, for money. He was very popular and very, very good.

    You are but a Padawan with your wine foil sculptures. But we all must start somewhere!

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    Arm The Homeless says:

    Betty, any chance that we could plan a BJ/Rumproast get-together for the GOP convention? I think a spirited tour of the Cigar City brewery and some gator-tail tacos in Ybor would fuel our snarky outbursts towards the tricorne set.

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    That plan can only be destroyed in the Fiery Pits of Mordor.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    “… I stand by what I said, whatever it was.”
    The perfect intro to the Obama campaign’s video series, This Week In Mitt Romney Flip-flops.

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    Legalize says:

    Dear Team O:

    It’s working http://livewire.talkingpointsm.....assination

    You’ve got Willard condemning Rev. Wright ads before they are even aired, and whining about how mean it is to talk about Bain. Willard looks weak. Please turn the Bain talk up to 11, and then 12, and then 13, and on and on. All summer.

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @jibeaux: If he doesn’t remember or know what he said, I’m sure if he used the Google he’d be able to find out everything he’s ever said. And didn’t he change the text of his book when it went to paperback to disown previous stances?

    ETA: I like the wine foil sculpture.

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    It’s quite late in the game (it ends tomorrow) but Cleek has another name-that-tune song quiz up, and you really should try it.

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    Raven says:

    @j: The chickens have come home to roost on Sheffield!

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    Link or it didn’t happen.

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    j says:

    @Roger Moore: I googled it. Got 37 different sources.

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    jibeaux says:

    @Roger Moore: I couldn’t make this up if I tried. Link.

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    Joseph Nobles says:

    Derbyshire Unbound:

    He actually states that more black people support white supremacy than voted for Obama because so few of them escaped slavery when they had the chance. I’m not making that up. He actually states this.

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    jl says:

    Romney utters odd speech acts on campaign trail today:

    05.17.2012 — 03:52 PM
    Best. Mitt. Quote. Evah.

    “I’m not familiar precisely with exactly what I said, but I stand by what I said whatever it was.”

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    Mike E says:

    I love the folk art! If you drank wine by the barrel, you’d be fashioning end tables or something.

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    bemused says:


    Would this have anything to do with Ricketts statement that he rejects the “Rickett Plan” and he didn’t even write it? This whole story is peculiar. The “Rickett Plan” was very creepy, the little I could stomach reading and now Rickett is disavowing it. I wonder what the real story is .

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    David Koch says:

    @jl: this is why they keep him away from reporters. he can’t help himself.

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    bemused says:


    Oh man, this guy is so not ready for prime time.

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    Any San Francisco Bay Area people around? I’ll be flying over from Europe (Denmark, specifically) on Sunday and staying in Berkeley until the 30th. I thought if there’s any interest we could perhaps get a meet-up together.

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    SatanicPanic says:

    @jibeaux: The Mittbot showing strength

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    geg6 says:


    I LOLed in my office when I read that earlier today. It sort of distills the essential Mittens down to a short and catchy sentence, doesn’t it?

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    Steve in DC says:


    They aren’t disavowing it, just parts. Some of the videos are already going up.

    They don’t think they hit hard enough last election and aim to fix it. Now just what they are going to hit on is up for debate. They are denying bringing up Wright, probably since that would drag Mitts mormon issue out into the open.

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    Arm The Homeless says:

    I had a discussion with my fiance last week where I asked whether “facts” ever were something that humans–but more specifically Americans–agreed upon? Is there a common well of objectively-true facts on which people can, or ever, debated?

    Are there Universal Truths, at least more than you could count on your fingers?

    How did political discourse change after previous historical paradigm shifts in how information is collected and absorbed by the masses?

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    bemused says:

    @Steve in DC:

    I would love to be a little birdie in the room when or if Rahm and Ricketts ever have a “conversation”.

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    Mark S. says:

    @Joseph Nobles:

    His argument is a little different (but just as stupid): Very few freed slaves moved back to Africa, therefore, they loved white supremacy.

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    JPL says:

    @bemused: not me..

    btw..Mitt said lots on the campaign trail that it is now going to difficult to repudiate. The ads write themselves with a nice 13 second clip of Mitt.

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    trollhattan says:

    Awesome capsule doggie! (Although the snout doesn’t look even vaguely boxerlike.)

    Olde-school lead foil capsules would be much easier to work with, but there’s that whole lead thing.

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    gbear says:

    “I’m not familiar precisely with exactly what I said, but I stand by what I said whatever it was.”

    I hope that line shows up as one of Mitt’s lies in Steve Benen’s ‘Mitt’s Mendacity’ series. He never stands by anything he says.

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    @Joseph Nobles: OK, THAT is the single stupidest thing I have ever seen.

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    jwb says:

    @gbear: But Politifact will rate the statement as mostly true because he admitted that he was “not familiar precisely with exactly what I said…”

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    bemused says:


    There’s hours of Mitt material to use now. I can’t imagine five plus more months of gaffe mouth. Doesn’t seem to faze him a bit though. He’s totally immune to ridicule and lackluster enthusiasm from voters.

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    redshirt says:

    @Arm The Homeless: Good question! I think from a truly objective POV, there can be no “FACTS” – that is, 100% proven, everyone agrees Truth. For instance, you and I both know the sun will rise in the East tomorrow. But there’s some small chance it will not. So is that a “fact”?

    All we have are varying levels of hypothesis.

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    Bruce S says:

    Many of you have probably heard about Safeway VP and General Counsel Robert Gordon’s “joke” at their shareholders’ meeting comparing Speaker Pelosi and Hillary Clinton to pigs.

    Here’s the KOS link:

    Rather than just use the Kos generic email, I would suggest you call the Safeway public affairs Department – particularly if you’ve been a long-time customer as I have.
    Public Affairs Department
    5918 Stoneridge Mall Road, Pleasanton, CA 94588
    Tel: 925-467-3000

    I talked to a real human and she was very respectful and obviously not happy that she’d be taking these kinds of calls on this jerk Gordon’s “behalf.”

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    jwb says:

    Via Charlie Pierce, recent Marquette poll on WI governor’s race greatly oversampled conservatives.

    The poll numbers have changed because they significantly changed the sample of who they polled. In this poll there are more conservatives and fewer moderates and liberals:
    Latest Poll: Conservatives 48% Moderates: 30% Liberals: 20%
    Poll Two Weeks Ago: Conservatives 43% Moderates: 32% Liberals: 22%
    According to Marquette’s numbers, conservatives favor Walker 72% to 21%, moderates favor Barrett 50% to 43% and liberals favor Barrett 83% to 15%.

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    piratedan says:

    @Cris (without an H): I must be slipping, I could only get 7 on the first pass

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    handsmile says:

    Betty Cracker:

    Like your previous achievement in wine foil art with Munch’s “The Scream,” were you perhaps inspired by one of these paintings:

    Giacomo Balla: “Dynamism of a Dog on a Leash” 1912

    or George Stubss: “A Spaniel in a Landscape” 1771

    My principal professional activity as an art historian is in the field of Self-Taught or “Outsider” Art:

    Presuming you have no training in the arts, should you find yourself fashioning wine foil sculptures of Jesus or creatures from the Book of Revelations, maybe we should have a conversation. But until you find yourself so inspired, let me state that you are the finest wine foil art sculptor I have ever encountered. :)

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    Arm The Homeless says:


    All we have are varying levels of hypothesis.

    Consider this stolen without attribution

    What mechanism (besides catastrophe) prods humans to question their truths? What prompts introspection? I mean besides drugs.

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    rikyrah says:

    HEADLINE: Rahm Emanuel ‘livid,’ not returning calls from Ricketts family.

    // Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel is not returning calls from the Ricketts family and is “livid” over a New York Times report that Joe Ricketts commissioned a proposal for a multimillion-dollar ad campaign linking President Obama to the president’s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright, according to an Emanuel aide. Joe Ricketts’s children, which include Obama bundler Laura Ricketts, bought the Chicago Cubs in 2009 and have been in talks with the city about renovating the team’s 98-year-old stadium, Wrigley Field.

    The aide also said Emanuel, who is Obama’s former chief of staff, has cut off communication with the family.
    “The Ricketts have tried to contact the mayor, but he’s said that he does not want to talk with them today, tomorrow or anytime soon,” the aide said.

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    JGabriel says:

    It’s a flaming orange dog … OMG, IT’S KERBEROS, THE DOG FROM HELL!

    (Needs a couple more heads, though.)


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    piratedan says:

    @JGabriel: maybe since there’s only one head, its the dog from Heck……

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    Forum Transmitted Disease says:

    @rikyrah: No wonder the firebaggers hate Rahm so much. He defends his people (Obama is one), and not with the liberals favorite weapon, strongly worded statements.

    He could cost the Ricketts family quite a bit here by deciding that their stadium is their problem. No skin off his ass.

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    redshirt says:

    @Arm The Homeless: Combination of neural wiring and environment.

    Raise a child in an environment that is open, loving, and full of exploration, and odds are you’ll soon have an adult with these qualities. Raise a child in a closed, fearful, dogmatic state of “DO WHAT I SAY”, and odds are you’ll soon have a vicious, bigoted authoritarian.

    Exceptions to each rule, of course.

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    gwangung says:

    @Forum Transmitted Disease: Heh.

    I think all he’ll do is make Ricketts sweat, and eventually reopen negotiations (after all, the Cubs are pretty much a non-partisan love of Chicago), but nothing says Ramn has to make it comfortable for ’em.

    But, yeah…defending his people and personal loyalty despite some policy differences. I think that’s underestimated as a tool for building an effective political team.

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    jl says:

    I give up, what is that tinfoil animal is that supposed to be?

    Perhaps if I could get at some delicious spring rolls with s and s sauce just begging to dipped into, I could figure it out. But I cannot reach them, on this supposedly full service blog.

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    Joseph Nobles says:

    @Mark S.: You’re right, on all counts. Oh, my God, what a nutbag!

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    slag says:

    Nick Hanauer’s talk is on the intertubes: It’s not bad!

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    Arm The Homeless says:

    @redshirt: I agree with the supposition, although my question perhaps wasn’t phrased correctly.

    Are there certain truths which define us? Are there other truths which are negotiable?

    If there are multiple tranches of truth, what does it take to trigger introspection about those bedrock ideas?

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    Hmmm, I thought I posted this but I guess not. Anyway, awesome slam-dunk rebuttal of Karl Rove’s latest BS lies, give it a watch. I didn’t know Attack Watch existed … great resource.

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    gbear says:

    @gwangung: I think that asking Chicago for millions to help refurbish the stadium while also planning on spending millions to try to slander Obama calls for a little more than making Ricketts sweat. I think there should be a goodly amount of public humiliation rolled into the deal. Stretched out over the longest period of time possible.

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    @jeffreyw: Also needs more kitteh.

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    @jl: All I can say for sure, is that it is too skinny to be Tunch.

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    piratedan says:

    @Southern Beale: agreed SB, shared to my facebook page

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    Amir Khalid says:

    We call them popiah around these parts.

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    The Vetting – Exclusive – Obama’s Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: ‘Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii’

    Oh noes!! hide the kiddies, Breitbart Zombie still posting from Hell. Let’s message some white republicans to please make it stop./liberal welcome wagon

    Stuart Smalley~~. If you are on the blog, you have a call on the weeny phone.

    Guess not

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    PurpleGirl says:

    @jeffreyw: hmmmmm. They look soooooo goooooood.

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    goethean says:

    Political cartoonists: can we get a cartoon of some thugs holding down Jesus while Romney cuts his hair?

    Does anyone know a cartoonist who would do this?

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    David in NY says:

    @redshirt: But what about the sun rising in the East yesterday? Agree on that? And mathematical “facts”?

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    redshirt says:

    @David in NY: Can you really prove it? And who knows for sure if the math we work with is universal – what if there is a multiverse with completely different physics?

    Sophistry to the max, to be sure, but ultimately, nothing can be 100% proven. Not a good life philosophy however.

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    David in NY says:

    @jwb: Yeah, but who knows whether there are really 48% or 43% conservatives? If there are actually 48%, things look better for Walker. (You can get lots of talk about this kind of thing on DKos — why they don’t “balance” their polls. They don’t because people can think they’re moderate one week and conservative the next, which probably correlates with their electoral choice.)

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    redshirt says:

    @Arm The Homeless: It is only our relative luxurious lifestyles that allow for even the contemplation of such ideas. Think a honey badger cares for truth?

    It’s a human concept, in other words.

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    David in NY says:

    @redshirt: I was just asking — there is a difference between agreement on what is going to happen and what observably did.

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    slag says:

    Long, drawn-out, esoteric question:

    The community center at which I spend one afternoon a week spreading my socialist agenda to Newt Gingrich’s wannabe janitorial staff is closing for the next few weeks for maintenance. So, as a reward to the work ethic-less kids who–on their own volition–come frequently to our weekly homework help sessions, I’m trying to get a bunch of movie passes to The Avengers (which offers a ton of valuable themes for post-movie discussion).

    The local science center, which is the only place that’s showing The Avengers at an appropriate time for this event, can only offer us a group discount. I checked with Walt Disney to see if they’ll donate tix, but they need 60 days notice for any donation requests, and we just found out about this closure this week. Lacking any other opportunities for cheap tix, the event is probably going to cost around $150-$200, and I’m trying to find a way to not have to pay for it myself. Suggestions? (Bake sales are out for a variety of reasons, not the least of which are my substandard baking skills.)

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    redshirt says:

    @David in NY: I don’t think we can ever be sure what you observed is what I observed. Of course, I’m extreme nit-picking here. But everything we know comes via our senses, via our brains, and no brain is like another’s, so….

    Again, there’s no such thing as TRUTH, or 100% Fact, or anything perfect and complete. We’re always dealing with some form of subjective POV, which can never be “TRUE”.

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    Bruce S says:

    So Rahm is Shocked!, Shocked! by Ricketts’ latest? This guy was one of Sharon Engle’s biggest backers in NV against Harry Reid. Hard to believe Da Mayor didn’t know the Cubs were owned by a Teabagger Lunatic. Glad he’s holding Ricketts’ feet to the fire – but this latest crank venture isn’t news, it’s part of a pattern.

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    gwangung says:


    I think there should be a goodly amount of public humiliation rolled into the deal. Stretched out over the longest period of time possible.

    Oh, that was what I was thinking of. Humiliation is almost required, and nobody in Chicago is gonna complain about that.

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    gwangung says:

    @slag: From what I’ve read about Hanauer, he’d be part of the 1% I wouldn’t mind having a beer with. A self-professed sociopath entrepreneur who thinks it’s stupid to underfund government services like education and is concerned about income inequity.

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    Arm The Homeless says:

    @redshirt: Honey Badger never had to get elected in 21st century America, either ;)

    What would a lying badger look like?

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    slag says:

    @gwangung: I’m with you. And I just saw this digby post on the topic, which also includes Richard Wilkinson’s 2011 talk about income inequality. She makes an interesting point, but I’m not sure it’s Hanauer being rude that made his talk different from Wilkinson’s. I think it’s the fact that he made the subject personal, which isn’t exactly the same thing. He pointed directly to the audience’s personal responsibility in contributing to income inequality. Oooooh!

    The old Harry Truman quote seems relevant here: “I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it’s hell.”

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    piratedan says:

    alas…. one of my favorite comics has passed… RIP Ron Shock, I’ll never look at van seats the same way again and I completely understand what a shit gig truly is.

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    WereBear says:

    @redshirt: The Tao says there is Truth.

    I agree.

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    the fugitive uterus says:

    i think it’s pretty awesome. kudos

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    Tom Betz says:

    It’s liquor bottle tops, not wine foil, but you might be interested in the work of El Anatsui. I saw this show at the Clark last summer; it was pretty remarkable. Kind of like quilts made with colored bits of metal.

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