Later Late Night Open Thread: Paalegg


(Tom Toles via GoComics.com)
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According to the Spousal Unit “paalegg” is Norwegian for “anything that can go in a sandwich”. Here’s a collection of bite-sized random items that tickled my palate.

The RonPaulistas continue to harass the GOP primary gatekeepers, and Mr. Pierce at Esquire has his suspicions as to why:

I am gradually coming to the conclusion that Crazy Uncle Liberty (!) is doing all this finagling with delegates and stringing out the campaign until he gets what he wants, which is some sort of validation for his son, Senator Aqua Buddha of Kentucky, within the party that might make the kid a legitimate kind of presidential candidate in 2016 and going forward, so that The Revolution (!) can continue until our grandchildren are being bored by the whole business…

… which led to my personal choice for Comment of the Day, All-Internetz Edition:

I will bet one giant genuflection on the altar of the gold standard that they have a gun pointed at Obama in this advertisement because the noose depicted in an earlier draft looked too regional.

Marin Cogan at GQ‘s Death Race 2012 blog tracks down the reporter behind the WaPo Bullygate story:

Marin Cogan: And what about the suggestion—it was made in the Fox interview with Romney but now it’s being discussed on Twitter, that this was some sort of oppo story handed to you by another campaign?

Jason Horowitz: I can just say that I can fully deny that. This is a story that in no way was generated by opposition research. This is an entirely independently reported story, with no help from any politically affiliated partisan side. This was all just talking to people who went to school with him.

Marin Cogan: Last question—Did Joe Biden force your hand, too, In terms of the timing?

Jason Horowitz: [Laughs] If you look at the last story I wrote I think was a Joe Biden story. Technically Joe Biden has again stepped in first. Maybe Joe Biden is behind everything.

Felix Salmon blames the latest JPMorgan fiasco on some guy named Bruno Iksil, “the London Whale“, and draws a dispiriting conclusion:

… Of course, this loss only goes to show how weak the Volcker Rule is: Dimon is adamant, and probably correct, in saying that Iksil’s bets were Volcker-compliant, despite the fact that they clearly violate the spirit of the rule. Now that we’ve entered election season, Congress isn’t going to step in to tighten things up — but maybe the SEC will pay more attention to Occupy’s letter, now. JP Morgan more or less invented risk management. If they can’t do it, no bank can. And no sensible regulator can ever trust the banks to self-regulate.

For those who proclaim themselves already bored beyond caring with this year’s election, Ed Kilgore at the Washington Monthly shares a vision of the future:

There was good news and bad news for Sarah Palin in the self-consciously ridiculous Public Policy Polling survey of Iowans for their preferences in the 2016 presidential contest (I mean, Caucus campaigning starts pretty damn early, but not this early!). On the one hand, she has an impressive 70/17 favorable/unfavorable rating among Iowa Republicans. On the other hand, only 10% of them chose her as their 2016 presidential favorite, tied for fourth with Jeb Bush…


Joe Coscarelli at NYMag’s Daily Intel reports that the ever-proactive Team Romney has found a new voter demographic to piss off:

Earlier this year, Mitt Romney promised Morality in Media, the “leading national organization opposing pornography,” that he supports “strict enforcement of our nation’s obscenity laws,” thereby alienating an extremely vocal, protective sect of Internet users everywhere. On Reddit in particular, the social news nerd haven where porn is as sacred as Ron Paul, the men (an educated assumption) are mobilizing with a plan to “swift-boner” Romney. Noting the site’s “activism in the past against things that would censor the internet in one way or another,” a user wrote yesterday to ask if Redditors would be interested in buying up ads on porn sites to alert potential voters to Romney’s anti-porn position. They are very interested (in making penis jokes)….

And finally, via Paul Constant, a [probably NSFW] video of… the surprise breakout star at this year’s GOP convention in Tampa!

Hell, if Shiri can successfully convey “three different human emotions”, that’s at least one-and-a-half more than the Romneybot 2012…

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60 replies
  1. 1
    Martin says:

    Paalegg is redundant. As a former new yorker, anything that can go in a sandwich defines anything. Cheese, tongue, radial tires – you name it and there’s a deli that has it on the menu.

  2. 2
    S. cerevisiae says:

    Sammich!!

    Seriously I am + about 6 because…since this is an open thread…THE VIKES ARE STAYING IN MN!!! Damn politicians finally got it done. If fucking Pawlenty wasn’t polishing his inauguration speech he could have got this done five years ago for half the damn price.

    Fucking worthless T-Paw.

  3. 3
    Danny says:

    … Of course, this loss only goes to show how weak the Volcker Rule is: Dimon is adamant, and probably correct, in saying that Iksil’s bets were Volcker-compliant, despite the fact that they clearly violate the spirit of the rule.

    Isn’t it rather the case that U.S. law does not (and can not) regulate financial transactions in the United Kingdom?

  4. 4
    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @Martin: Would that include tire rims & anthrax?

  5. 5
    BillinGlendaleCA says:

    @S. cerevisiae: Ah, another team that won’t be moving to LALA land, Then again we already have a professional football team playing in LA, not NFL but not really college either.

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    freelancer says:

    ABL had it right, I think. Plouffe and Axelrod are master campaigners. They know how to prime. So instead of the media asking “gotcha” questions that are easily dismissed, they create a news cycle in advance of a story they know is going to break.

    Step zero: Somebody hears about Romney being a giant bully towards a gay kid at his Prep School.

    Step One: Okay, Joe, the leash is off, do your stream of consciousness thing and while you’re riffing, make a bit of news.

    Step Two: Let’s do an interview with POTUS and let Biden come up. He always felt this way, and most of the media will react to it as a process story where now that public opinion is 50/50 on gay marriage; the media can write it up as Obama pandering to his base, making HUGE news, yet being completely political.

    Step Three: The WaPo story on Romney as an anti-gay bully comes out and the conversation shifts. The national debate changes and it can be felt everywhere. Even the media that falls for sucker/hack easy narratives is like, okay even if the Prez just came out for gay marriage, the real story is what does this story about this impossibly wealthy, out-of-touch, had everything handed to him on a silver platter, simple story of acting like a supervillain as an 18-year-old ; well what does the adult version of himself have to say about it?

    He’s laughing?! That’s not a little fucked up. Just the same way it was a bit atrocious when he justified Dog-on-Car.

    Willard Mitt Romney’s surreptitious motivation for becoming the most powerful human being on the planet is to prove to you and his dad that he is the most special snowflake amongst all other snowflakes that have ever been or will be.

    You owe him that. Apparently everyone does.

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    Mjaum says:

    Because I am bored and norwegian, as well as ever so slightly pedantic…

    Pålegg means, literally, “puton” as in anything you can put on a slice of bread. So not put in, but put on.

    (“På” is “on”, legg is “put”.)

    Hmmmm… Still bored.

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    c u n d gulag says:

    @Martin:
    As a former NYer, I agree – I’m all for “democratic” sandwich’s – anything goes!
    Put whatever you want in them.

    But pizza – now that’s another story!
    I’m ok with pretty much any meat, any cheese (except may cream), and any veggie.

    But NO fruit!
    Except tomato’s, of course, which are a berry. But THAT’S IT for fruit!

    Fruit on pizza is an abomination before man and God – and may, in and of itself, either prove that there is no God, or that man has no taste! Or, at least the ones creating, making, and eating them, are concerned.
    HERETICS!

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    JGabriel says:

    Charles Pierce via Anne Laurie @ Top:

    I am gradually coming to the conclusion that Crazy Uncle Liberty (!) is doing all this finagling with delegates and stringing out the campaign until he gets what he wants, which is some sort of validation for his son, Senator Aqua Buddha of Kentucky, within the party that might make the kid a legitimate kind of presidential candidate in 2016 …

    Probably, but I’m partial to another theory: that the Elder Ayn Rand Gnome thinks it’s possible RMoney will flame out before the convention and Paul is positioning himself to win a convention floor fight, should that happen. Hell, if this bullying story about Romney is just the tip of the iceberg, as some suspect, then Paul might even be right.

    .

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    Joey Maloney says:

    Lemme save Drudge some effort: “‘Joe Biden is behind everything’ Romney smear reporter admits!”

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    JGabriel says:

    … [Palin] has an impressive 70/17 favorable/unfavorable rating among Iowa Republicans.

    Huh. Just out of curiousity, can we get a poll of Palin’s favorable/unfavorable rating in NYC? I’m thinking they might be a little bit different.

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  12. 12
    amk says:

    ppp does conduct some utterly meaningless polls. the fellers there must be bored.

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    Applejinx says:

    @freelancer:
    Interesting. In the Romney clip, they’ve mis-quoted him. They’re talking about the second ‘Attagirl!’ kid. Romney in fact says
    [quote]I had no idea that he was gay- I can’t SPEAK TO THAT even today[/quote]

    There is paydirt here, bigtime.

    This is just my hunch, but hear me out. I think Mitt Romney (for religious reasons?) refuses TO ‘have an idea’ that someone is gay. It is not a thing to him. It’s like Satan or something, that has to be bullied out of people. To Mitt it’s not simply about ‘gay is bad’, to him a person cannot BE gay at all. He can’t speak to that even today, because he’s being polite and at least slightly aware of his surroundings and what’s expected of him.

    Underneath, I suspect he literally ‘has no idea that he was gay’ and can’t ‘speak to that’ because it’s not even a thing to him- gays are not human but something else, perhaps some sort of walking damnation or lack of soul or something else unperson. He’s really not going to want to talk about that.

    Explains why he could hire a gay man and then gratefully get rid of the guy after making it very clear the guy can’t be seen or heard- it never occurred to him the guy was gay because that’s not a thing to Mitt.

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    JGabriel says:

    Anne Laurie @ Top:

    Hell, if Shiri can successfully convey “three different human emotions”, that’s at least one-and-a-half more than the Romneybot 2012…

    Maybe I don’t look at buttocks enough to gauge the subtlety of their emotions, but I’m only reading one expression there: ass-clenching — which, coincidentally enough, is the only expression I ever read on Romney’s face too.

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    JGabriel says:

    @c u n d gulag:

    Fruit on pizza is an abomination before man and God!

    So glad I’m agnostic. A little pineapple is a tasty, and healthy addition to many a pizza pie. I find it goes well not only with ham, but also green peppers & onions.

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    This seems like an appropriate place to post this. Looks like an interesting read but the review alone is …well, depressing. But it’s hard to argue with any of the author’s points:

    Time to Start Thinking by Edward Luce – review
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    A compelling study shows why American politicians are in denial about their nation’s decline
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    It is true that there have been serious errors in policy. Luce, formerly the Financial Times’s south Asia bureau chief based in New Delhi and now the paper’s chief Washington correspondent, spells out these exercises in self-damage in painful and illuminating detail. He shows how America has choked off the flow of talented scientists and entrepreneurs by making immigration more difficult, while major companies have been encouraged to move offshore so that IBM and General Electric now employ more people overseas than they do in the US. He examines the factors that have de-skilled much of the US workforce, not least failures in public education, and tells some poignant stories of the economic squeeze that is laying waste to the lives of so many. Rightly, he sees the collapse of social mobility as a turning point. What hope have the former middle classes if their children are also trapped in debt and dead-end jobs?
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    Those who argue that America’s decline has been the result of policies that can be changed pass over the chronic dysfunction of the American political system. “Given America’s separation of powers,” Luce writes, “the Tea Party needs only a majority of the majority of one half of one branch of government to have a pretty good shot at ensuring nothing significant happens in Washington… in light of such a low bar, and given its organisational prowess, it is hard to see a neat end to the Tea Party’s ‘tyranny of the minority’ in the near future.” As Luce implies, deadlock in Washington is a by-product of America’s sacrosanct constitution. One might wonder how a system of government that was framed in pre-industrial times could possibly be suitable at the start of the 21st century. But while the constitution is often ignored in practice, there is no prospect of the structures of government being reformed. As the Tea Party has shown, a mythic story of American constitutional origins still has powerful resonance.

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    Xenos says:

    @c u n d gulag:

    Fruit on pizza is an abomination before man and God – and may, in and of itself, either prove that there is no God, or that man has no taste! Or, at least the ones creating, making, and eating them, are concerned.
    HERETICS!

    Tomatoes are fruit. Olives are fruit. Artichokes are… whatever it is that artichokes are.

    Edit – OK, you got the tomatoes already (readin’ comprehension a bit weak for me today). But how about Eggplant? That’s a fruiting body!

  18. 18
    amk says:

    And this is the first time that George Clooney has ever been photo-shopped out of a picture. – Obama at Clooney fundraiser yesterday.

  19. 19
    c u n d gulag says:

    @JGabriel:
    HEATHEN!

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    Applejinx says:

    Not only that- Romney is laughing AT you, not with you, and is most certainly not crying on the inside. Laughing is a mask or misdirection over something uncomfortable. What is uncomfortable to Romney is not his own fallibility- that’s not funny at all to him.

    It’s the sinful, screwed up WORLD he has to tolerate, that’s making him laugh uncomfortably. He’s laughing uncomfortably at the country he proposes to govern.

    I’d like to see Obama catch him doing that, in a debate, and confront him.

    “What’s so funny, Governor?”

    “No, let me be clear, Governor… we’re talking about rights for American citizens, citizens you hope to represent. I thought this was a serious and worthwhile conversation to be having. We may disagree, but I’d like to know exactly what was funny about that question…”

    If you catch Mitt under pressure, laughing about how he has to play along with the sinful madness of the world, and press him on it harder while not allowing him to continue laughing- he might flip out. That would be really interesting to see.

    He can’t possibly prepare for it because he will not work with anybody who demands that he think about things he ‘can’t speak to’. All his preparation will be about deflecting the conversation away from the subject he can’t think about, because he can’t bear to think about it from an angle that would in any way give him good tactical responses. His ONLY tactic will be to evade- maybe he can be called on that.

    Maybe Obama can demand that he speak his heart- in other words, demand more lies from him as usual, but THIS time a type of lie that Mitt will find unbearably difficult to tell for personal reasons. And if he keeps uncomfortably laughing, call him on that… And Obama has already pointedly spoken ‘his heart’ while explaining that his heart is not policy… bait.

    This is a huge, huge weakness for Romney. His only hope tactically is to double down and own all his stuff, insisting that there are no gays (just satan-possessed weak sinners?) and that serfs are tricky to manage and should be kept in their place for the good of the economy and never allowed to get power or money. That’s a huge loser politically but Mitt’s only other option is to be that, but too weak to insist on it- worst of both worlds.

    I wonder if Mitt could be argued into endorsing gay rights while obviously lying and hating it and them. You’d then have the left not believing him, and the right thinking he can be bullied into going against their most strongly held beliefs, beliefs he clearly shares- with the implication that the left would continue to bully him and stop him delivering on any of the religious fundamentalism at his core.

    And of course that’s a Mormon core- better get your garment handy, you’ll be issued one by the government! Even being a religious bigot is not automatically a ticket to acceptance by the religious right.

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    JGabriel says:

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    c u n d gulag:

    HEATHEN!

    Heh. Never claimed I was anything other. I wear that label PROUDLY.

    Edited to add: Whoops! Got that wrong, apparently a heathen necessarily, i.e. by definition, holds pagan religious beliefs. So I guess I’m not a heathen either. Just agnostic.

    Damn. Heathen sounds so much cooler.

    .

  22. 22
    c u n d gulag says:

    @amk:
    I’ve already acknowledged that tomato’s are berries.

    And I’ll concede the point on olive – at least the black ones. I love them on pizza – especially with fresh, garlic, which is then roasted while the pizza cooks.
    I don’t think I’ve ever had pizza with green ones, but I’d try it.

    But NO sweet fruit!

    Maybe I should clarify my position, changing it to, “You can put whatever it is you want and like on a flat piece of bread – but that doesn’t make it a pizza, so stop calling it that!”

    Look, most, if not all of us, are assholes about SOMEthing!

    I’ve chosen pizza-purism to be my mark of asshole-ishness.

    The rest of you can go find something else! :-)

    Trite apology time:
    “I’m sorry if anyone took offense with what I said.”
    There, I feel better.
    Don’t you? ;-)

  23. 23
    JPL says:

    Good Morning America did a piece on Romney being a bully and hopefully the other networks did also. The discussion was that Romney needs to issue a stronger statement.
    He might say how bullying helped him make millions by closing the doors on businesses. It’s the american dream.

  24. 24
    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism says:

    @c u n d gulag: Fruit on pizza is an abomination before man and God

    No fruit, no fungus, no fish.

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    JGabriel says:

    @Applejinx:

    Even being a religious bigot is not automatically a ticket to acceptance by the religious right.

    Especially if you’re not their religious bigot, but belong to some wacky (from the Christianist POV) faith that relies on a third book of American Jesus fanfic and which formerly practiced polygamy.

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  26. 26
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @S. cerevisiae: As a Packer fan, I hate your team with the fire of a thousand suns and despise its fans as though they were Paulistas, but this is a good thing. I am glad they are staying and I an happy for you sorry fucks who cheer for them.*

    *Sorry, that is the most gracious I can do for the Vikings and their fans. I really, really tried hard too.

  27. 27
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: Backsliding Hereitic! Mushrooms belong on pizza. Pineapple is, of course, an abomination as a topping. Delish in other roles, but NOT on pizza.

    Also too, a martini is made with gin and a small amout of dry vermouth (olive or twist is a matter of personal choice). I will stretch the point and say that the the substitution of vodka for gin creates a “vodka martini.” Anything else is simply a fruit of chocolate flavored drink served in a martini glass.

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    JGabriel says:

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    Applejinx @ 20 (Sorry for not including the link to your comment, Apple; I need the third link for the body of the post.):

    [Romney] can’t possibly prepare for [responding to debate pressure] because he will not work with anybody who demands that he think about things he ‘can’t speak to’.

    Also, because Romney will fire anyone who is good at the job.

    Romney likes firing people, doncha know?

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    JGabriel says:

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    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:

    No fruit, no fungus, no fish.

    I would steer clear, Sister, of Neapolitans on the no fish rule:

    A description of pizza in Naples around 1830 is given by the French writer and food expert Alexandre Dumas, père in his work Le Corricolo, Chapter VIII.[9] He writes that pizza was the only food of the humble people in Naples during winter and that “in Naples pizza is flavored with oil, lard, tallow, cheese, tomato, or anchovies.”

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    c u n d gulag says:

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:
    WRONG!

    Mushrooms on pizza – Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

    Anchovies?
    An acquired taste that I never acquired.
    They’re a rich-people topping, substituting for caviar, I suspect.

    You can only add, and afford, so many toppings on a pizza, and oily, salty, fish ain’t high on my list.
    Though, if forced to make a decision at the wrong end of a gun, I’d take anchovies over pineapple or strawberries.
    But, that’s me…

  31. 31
    amk says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: What’s your expert opinion on replacing tonic with sprite for gin ?

  32. 32
    MikeJ says:

    @c u n d gulag: Anchovies are goood.

    But I also enjoy the occasional pineapple on a pizza, just not on one with anchovies.

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    c u n d gulag says:

    @JGabriel:
    That’s fine – NO fruit there!

    The mention of anchovies, there, though, immediately makes my ‘they’re for rich people’ argument sound really stupid.

    Like every other comment I had on this post, I suppose. ;-)

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    c u n d gulag says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Ok, that’s another line of demarcation for my asshole-ishness – MARTINI’S!

    Just because it’s served in a martini glass, doesn’t make it a martini!
    Gin! YES!
    With a papal dispensation for vodka – but it must be called, ‘a vodka martini.’

    NO SWEET SH*T!!!

    Anything other than gin, vodka, dry vermouth, and olives or a twist, is not a martini!
    And, with cocktail onions, that’s a “Gibson,” NOT a martini!

  35. 35
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @amk: Idolator! Anyway, the whole purpose of the G&T is to make the anti-malarial meds more pleasant; if you lose the tonic, all you have left is the stuff they are selling for a ha’penny a glass down at the gin mills in the Dickensian slums. And then where would we be? Well?

    @c u n d gulag: I like your thinking. And Gibsons aren’t bad; they just aren’t martinis. They are, by god, closer to being a martini than anything containing chocolate ever will be.

  36. 36
    Donut says:

    @c u n d gulag:

    Fruit on pizza is an abomination before man and God – and may, in and of itself, either prove that there is no God, or that man has no taste! Or, at least the ones creating, making, and eating them, are concerned.
    HERETICS!

    Hate to break it to you, but tomato is fruit, so…

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    A J says:

    “…(Palin) has an impressive 70/17 favorable/unfavorable rating among Iowa Republicans. On the other hand, only 10% of them chose her as their 2016 presidential favorite, tied for fourth with Jeb Bush…”

    Ahem.

    Sarah Palin is the chick everyone wants to run a train on behind the gym on Prom Night, but no one actually wants to be her DATE. – Stolen on the internetz, probably from Tbogg

  38. 38
    amk says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I should just fucking move into one of those Dickensian slums. Makes things so much easier. Fuck the tonic. Also. Too.

  39. 39
    MikeJ says:

    @c u n d gulag:

    Anything other than gin, vodka, dry vermouth, and olives or a twist, is not a martini!

    A perfect martini has both dry and sweet vermouth and is an acceptable martini.

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    Rhoda says:

    @c u n d gulag: Pineapple and Chicken w/extra cheese. It is the bees knees. That’s just a fact.

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    Randy P says:

    Switching topics here, can anyone who loved the Avengers movie tell me what they loved? I love some comic book movies but it’s nothing to do with special effects. I loved Green Hornet because of the Cato character. Those of us who remember Bruce Lee forced to be the little buddy of Britt Reid got special satisfaction, I think.

    Hated Green Lantern for many reasons.

    Absolutely loved X-men First Class but it was the relationship between Charles aand Erik that did it for me, and the triangle with Charles’ sister Mystique. Also the exploration of the human side of all the characters. And Kevin Bacon is always fun.

  42. 42
    Joey Maloney says:

    @amk: Couldn’t make it any worse. There’s already gin in it.

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    Joseph Nobles says:

    Ben Shapiro informed me over at Breitbartistan that the Mitt Romney bullying story has “imploded” because a) the Post got one of the colorful details wrong (which they corrected without saying they were correcting), and b) Lauber, the victim, led a full life, and does that sound like someone who was scarred by bullying?

    Helen Keller led a full life. Does that sound like someone who was deaf and blind?

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    Joseph Nobles says:

    Ben Shapiro informed me over at Breitbartistan that the Mitt Romney bullying story has “imploded” because a) the Post got one of the colorful details wrong (which they corrected without saying they were correcting), and b) Lauber, the victim, led a full life, and does that sound like someone who was scarred by bullying?

    Helen Keller led a full life. Does that sound like someone who was deaf and blind?

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    c u n d gulag says:

    @Donut:
    Had you fully read my earlier idiotic comments, you’d have noticed that I had already twice acknowledged that tomato was, indeed, a fruit/berry, and was the only one allowed – with the addition of olives, added in a later comment.

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    Tyro says:

    @freelancer: Except that, honestly, the Obama campaign has never before been interested in “winning the day” by capturing and controlling the news cycle, instead preferring to do a slow and steady “long game”, leaving Hillary Clinton and the Republicans to waste their time trying to win the daily news cycles. Yes, I’m impressed with them over the past few days, but the whole thing is so unlike what we’ve seen before.

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    JGabriel says:

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    Randy P:

    Switching topics here, can anyone who loved the Avengers movie tell me what they loved?

    I think you might find answers to that question in this Avengers-themed open thread from last night.

    .

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    xian says:

    i actually think maddow et al are barking up the wrong tree regarding Romney’s nervous laughter. it’s creepy and offputting but treating it literally as mirth is a bit disingenuous.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Ahem.

    As you point out, a gin & tonic is called what it is called for a reason. It is, verily, the nectar of the gods. The best mixed drink there was or will be.

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    Barry says:

    @JGabriel: “Probably, but I’m partial to another theory: that the Elder Ayn Rand Gnome thinks it’s possible RMoney will flame out before the convention and Paul is positioning himself to win a convention floor fight, should that happen. Hell, if this bullying story about Romney is just the tip of the iceberg, as some suspect, then Paul might even be right.”

    I don’t think so – how long has it been since a major party dumped the front-runner after the primaries are over? And especially in Paul’s case, when the Powers That Be hate him so much. If it really got that bad, they’d accept a losing presidential campaign, and dump their money and effort (and nasty work) into Congressional campaigns.

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    Tony J says:

    @Randy P:

    Absolutely loved X-men First Class but it was the relationship between Charles aand Erik that did it for me, and the triangle with Charles’ sister Mystique. Also the exploration of the human side of all the characters. And Kevin Bacon is always fun.

    Loved it lots and lots, but I’m still baffled as to why they made it a prequel instead of rebooting the whole universe. All three of the X-Men films made before it were (IMNSHO) little more than Wolverine fanfics of steadily increasing ridiculousness. The first one wasn’t – totally – awful, but it tried its level best to take everything cool about the X-Men concept, lock it in a box, and chuck it off a cliff into shark infested waters. The second one was garbage, and as for that X3 abortion, the highest praise I can give it is that it was worse than Catwoman.

    First-Class brought a bit of the ‘Wow’ factor that the other films sorely lacked, but as an X-Men nerd I did have a lot of trouble with Kevin Bacon’s character. Who was he? Sebastian Shaw or Mister Sinister? He combined elements of both characters without actually embodying either of them.

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    Barry says:

    @Xenos: “But how about Eggplant? That’s a fruiting body!”

    Eggplant is a vegetable. Proof – have you ever heard of anybody putting eggplant:

    in a fruit plate?
    on cereal?
    in a fruit salad?
    in a pie?
    on cake, with whipped cream?
    in their mouth, raw, while walking down the street?

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    TG Chicago says:

    Regarding JPMorgan, on Marketplace Morning just now, they had an “expert” on. He said that the bets were placed on companies that would benefit if Europe’s economy continued to improve. He then explained that after the elections, the economy is not improving, so the bets went bad.

    WAIT A SECOND. That gets it backward. The economy went further south and/or failed to improve, and THAT is what caused the electoral changes. The austerians got their chance, and they couldn’t get it done.

    You can already see that the plan is to make it seem as if the stupid unwashed masses elected the wrong people, and that’s what caused Europe’s continued problems. It’s an analysis that has no relation to reality, but it works if you’re trying to excuse the rapcious behavior of the 1%.

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    c u n d gulag says:

    @Rhoda:
    I’m sure it’s great.

    It just AIN’T PIZZA!

    It’s pineapple and chicken and extra-cheese on a flat-bread.

    I’m sure peanut butter and jelly/jam would also taste great on the bread used in making pizza – but it AIN’T PIZZA EITHER!

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    runt says:

    But we spell it “pålegg”. Don’t you envy us for our extra letters?

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    JoyfulA says:

    @c u n d gulag: You’ve obviously never tried dessert pizza, which locally is available in cherry (my favorite), blueberry, and apple.

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    JGabriel says:

    @Barry:

    I don’t think so – how long has it been since a major party dumped the front-runner after the primaries are over? And especially in Paul’s case, when the Powers That Be hate him so much.

    I think you’re making the erroneous assumption that Paul & the Paulistas believe in the same reality that we all inhabit.

    They don’t.

    .

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @runt:

    Don’t you envy us for our extra letters?

    I just wish I could pronounce them correctly! My Norwegian-born mother-in-law’s name is Aase, and after 30 years of practice it still comes out as “Osa” when I say it.

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    LanceThruster says:

    I posted this around 4 years ago with the passing of CA’s Prop 8 (anti-gay marriage initiative that Romney’s LDS church illegally funded). I was particularly pleased to have a responder provide a George Stephanopoulus quote that I think is quite relevant here:

    From: link to balloon-juice.com

    LanceThruster – November 16, 2008 | 7:26 pm · Link

    A little while ago I was watching the repeat of Maher’s show with my father in the room, and asked him how he voted on the CA propositions (we don’t discuss politics much because it was the cause of a family dust up awhile back after the 2004 elections). I was mostly curious about 8 but asked about some of the othe props first. We saw things pretty much alike on most thing but when I asked about 8 he said he voted yes. Like I said, there’s a little tension over politics because his girlfriend (he’s a widower) is a GOP true believer and whenever family gathers for my birthday in November, recent elections have always been a topic of conversation (mine at least). I’ve always thought of my dad as a reasonably loving and tolerant individual and he’s never been much in the way of church going (though he sent us kids to a Catholic grade school) and has no problem with my atheism though my sister is a bible believer (and votes Republican too). Sometimes I think he is voting with his dick to make his gal pal happy (the way guys would pretend to be into causes in the 60’s to get chicks) but I guess there’s many things I don’t know about his core values. I also know that his buddies in the Elks Lodge he recently joined are pretty conservative (I had to ask him to stop sending me emails of their Reich Wing bullshit – like the Obama birth certificate “scandal”, and other missives sucking the choad of St. Ronnie)

    More surprising to me than that though, is two female friends who I’d consider at least Democrats if not actually liberally-minded (one even asks me how she should vote and I fill in her sample ballot with my recomendations) said they voted yes too . Both have/had many gay friends, don’t get their nose out of joint for other social taboos (cohabitation, rec drugs, etc.) regardless of their own personal choices but still somewhat sheepishly admitted that they voted yes (they didn’t want any flack for their vote, but they were adamant about their choice). Both have been divorced at least once, one is black, and one I was a coworker with before we wound up at the same employer (long time friend).

    All I can think of is that they feel gay marriage is a sign that we have become overly permissive as a society (based on some of the other things they’ve said). They are fine with civil unions. It seems as if somehow losing “traditional” marriage means that all bets are off in regards society as they recognize it. I think it’s an attitude that this would open the door to other changes that they would be uncomfortable with. They’re both about 10 years older than me (I’m 50) and I guess they’re pretty much just set in their ways. Gay marriage is apparently just too “radical” for the world they grew up in.

    I bring this up only to offer a little perspective for those votes Prop 8 got that were from people without a clearly recognizable agenda, but those that pretty much went with their gut feelings because they find gay marriage “icky” and that no one should have to vote for icky.

    I’m beginning to believe those who’ve said that the old attitudes, by and large, will have to die off (as younger adults are less polarized over gay issues on the whole).

    40.
    Thursday – November 16, 2008 | 10:22 pm · Link

    When it went through here (Soviet Canuckistan), one “pretty face” named George Strombolopolis noted:

    “What people against gay marriage don’t understand is that – it’s over. In ten years, that age group most strongly opposed will have died off, and the young people – those most in favour of it – will still be voting. It’s over now, or it’s over in a few years; but it’s over.”

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    LanceThruster says:

    @Anne Laurie: In German class they taught us tricks how to do umlaut pronunciation.

    This site summarizes them pretty well —

    ä (short): Geschäft as in left

    ä (long): wäre as in bad

    ai, ei (long): Mais or Reis as in my

    au (long): Haus as in house

    äu, eu (long): Häuser, Leute as in boy

    ö (short): Köln as in early (with a more rounded mouth)

    ö (long): böse as in burn (with a more rounded mouth)

    ü (short):Mütze (like saying ee with rounded lips)

    ü, y (long): üben, Typ as in French rue

    Read more at Suite101: How to Pronounce German Vowels: Learn the Pronunciation of Umlauts and Other German Sounds | Suite101.com http://simone-preuss.suite101......z1uaqj0eTb

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