When God gives you misogyny, make misogynyade

If Politico says you’re taking it to the extreme, you’re winning:

It’s no surprise that President Barack Obama has made women central to his reelection strategy.

But in these past few months, even he may be taking it to the extreme.

No issue is proving too tiny for Obama and his team as they seek an edge with female voters. They’ve denounced male-only membership of the Augusta National Golf Club, cut a video message of support for Planned Parenthood, universally disavowed a supporter’s slipup on Ann Romney and issued a 65-page report that recasts the administration’s entire record through the lens of how it affects women.

Tucked inside that lengthy report are nuggets like these: women can now serve on submarines, expect private spaces at most workplaces to express breast milk, and take comfort knowing that the definition of rape was updated for the first time in more than 80 years, a change that means more federal funding to combat domestic violence.

The thing is (a) Republicans gave Democrats an opening here by thinking they could win the war on contraception, (b) reproductive rights and work equality are real issues, and (c) holding onto to the past — a past where women had few rights — is central to the point of conservatism (they’re the ones who say they’re about yelling “stop”, not us).

So why on earth shouldn’t the war on women be a legitimate political issue?

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134 replies
  1. 1
    jibeaux says:

    So….which one of those items in particular would Politico like to spell out as “extreme”? It’s not as if they found a constitutional right for me to make potato-print artwork on a public sidewalk with my genitalia or something.

  2. 2
    Mike Goetz says:

    I just read this and had the same gag reflex. The article actually says Obama is taking a “two-by-four” approach to women’s issues. I couldn’t believe it.

    More of the typically snotty way the beltway media covers Obama. Every day, on every issue.

    I’d say Obama is doing it right.

  3. 3
    dmsilev says:

    So why on earth shouldn’t the war on women be a legitimate political issue?

    Because some random paid pundit that virtually nobody had ever heard of before said something that could be deliberately misconstrued as attacking Ann Romney’s status as a mother.

    So shut up.

  4. 4
    butler says:

    @Mike Goetz:

    The article actually says Obama is taking a “two-by-four” approach to women’s issues

    Well, 2 X 4s are useful for building a solid frame on which to build a sturdy home. So maybe Obama is building a solid metaphorical structure for woman’s rights? Is that what they meant?

  5. 5
    4tehlulz says:

    I think Obama is taking things to the EXTREEEEEEEEEME!!!

    @Mike Goetz: When do the “Obama in a wifebeater” shops start coming out?

  6. 6
    Jesse says:

    Make ’em pay. We need to spread this message to the hills. Fuck Politico. This own-goal albatross needs to spread. People may regard these outrageous Republican-led developments with incredulity, but they are real. People need to get beyond their incredulity and realize that yes, amazingly, there are real opponents of so those things that they thought were settled looong ago.

  7. 7
    Brachiator says:

    This Politico piece is truly rancid. Who knew that attempts to ensure that women could live their lives with dignity and respect could be considered “extreme?”

    At least they didn’t say that wimmins shouldn’t worry their pretty little heads about man stuff, like equality.

  8. 8
    Sly says:

    So why on earth shouldn’t the war on women be a legitimate political issue?

    Because liberals win it.

  9. 9
    Ash Can says:

    In other, not-very-unrelated news, Ann Romney tries to express esteem for working moms and falls flat on her face.

    I agree with everyone who says that candidates’ families should be off limits in a campaign. But when a spouse insists upon getting out on the campaign trail and speaking publicly and won’t STFU, others ought to be able to point out the fact that she’s a major-league fuck-up.

  10. 10
    jibeaux says:

    Ann Romney came back out and said she thought it was great that there are women out there who don’t have a choice about working. I’m sorry, but these people (?) are just not skilled politicians.

  11. 11

    But there’s a new Hill poll done by Wingnut, Inc that says women don’t like Obama and want to have Romney’s baby.

  12. 12
    Ordovician Bighorn Dolomite (formerly rarely seen poster Fe E) says:

    So why on earth shouldn’t the war on women be a legitimate political issue?

    There is no reason why it shouldn’t be, because it is a legitimate political issue. SATSQ and all that.

    And no I will insert the obligatory “Politico can go ahead and blow it our their ass any time now, thank you very much” statement now.

  13. 13
    Jeff Spender says:

    What offends me is that someone still reads Politico. I used to read them when I was in high school, before I knew better.

    That was back when CNN still had some shred of dignity.

  14. 14
    butler says:

    Obama didn’t just condemn Rush Limbaugh for branding Georgetown University law student Sandra Fluke a “slut” and a “prostitute” for testifying in favor of free birth control coverage. The president took the unusual step of calling her directly.

    The President making a phone call is unusual? Isn’t that like 50% of his job?

  15. 15
    giltay says:

    How dare Obama take on women’s issues instead of real people’s issues?

  16. 16
    dmsilev says:

    @Ash Can: “Ann Romney: ‘I Love The Fact That There Are Women Out There Who Don’t Have A Choice’ And ‘Must Go To Work’ ”

    I’m guessing she just barely managed to suppress the “bloody peasants” which would have been the next phrase out of her mouth.

  17. 17
    Jeff Spender says:

    @General Stuck:

    I almost clicked that link to redstate. Almost.

    My trolling days are over. My relationship to right-wing sites is like the man who will die if he smokes one more cigarette.

  18. 18
    Ash Can says:

    No issue is proving too tiny for Obama and his team as they seek an edge with female voters.

    Tiny.

    Tiny.

    I’m going to go way out on a limb here, and, without looking at the link, say that a man wrote this. A man who, if his photo accompanies the article, will show him with his head up his ass.

  19. 19
    rlrr says:

    So why on earth shouldn’t the war on women be a legitimate political issue?

    Because it gives Democrats an advantage, that’s why.

  20. 20
    SenyorDave says:

    @jibeaux: She’s also ecstatic that there are some people who are so desperate that they are thinking of selling one of their kidneys. It shows the can-do attitude that’s unique to Americans!

  21. 21
    Captain Howdy says:

    Is “express breast milk” to go?

  22. 22
    Jeff Spender says:

    @butler:

    I honestly can’t believe that someone pays these hacks to write this bullshit. Do they even have editors? I mean, that’s just blatantly stupid, wrapped in a layer of douchebag.

    Who is buying that?

  23. 23
    shortstop says:

    These guys at Politico are not neanderthals, you know. They’re modern men. One of them even took an introductory feminist studies course as an undergrad, which is way beyond minimal effort. And all of their wives work, and one of them is even a doctor with male nurses on the same staff. These guys are not saying we shouldn’t have one woman on the Supreme Court, but it’s a legitimate issue to ask why there are three, okay? And Women’s History Month is a great time to celebrate the contributions of women to this country, but that was in March already, and now it’s the end of April, and still the Democrats are bringing all this stuff up and will not let any of it go. Are they going to do this all year long? Just how much rank pandering is Obama planning to direct toward this small special-interest group?

  24. 24
    amk says:

    @butler: so what words stirred your troll nose ? Obama, women’s right, planned parenthood ? And whose sock-puppet are you ?

  25. 25
    jibeaux says:

    @SenyorDave: Just thinking about someone cashing in their coin jar for gas money brings her nearly to climax.

    Too much?

  26. 26
    shortstop says:

    @jibeaux: Never. More is more, darling.

  27. 27
    El Tiburon says:

    @jibeaux:

    So….which one of those items in particular would Politico like to spell out as “extreme”?

    EGGGzactly.

    REPUBLICANS: We want to force a big stick up a woman’s vag if she wants an abortion.
    OBAMA: Republicans have pushed some legislation that may go just a bit too far…

    POLITICO: Obama sure is being extreme.

  28. 28
    hitchhiker says:

    Are the boneheads at P-co afraid that I might notice my daughters are still earning less dough for the same work, still seeing themselves sexualized in every media, still being subjected to violence and moralism on levels their male friends don’t have to confront?

    A political strategy can reflect values that voters hold, which I think is how it’s supposed to work. Right, P-co boneheads?

  29. 29

    @Captain Howdy:

    I think “express milk” comes with a straw, but am not sure of that.

  30. 30
    Sly says:

    @Ash Can:
    Next up, the Romney campaign airs a commercial that consists only of that scene from Sex in the City 2 where two upper-class white women complain about their nannies and then patronizingly toast working-class mothers.

    “We’re the Romneys. We think about you. Sometimes.”

  31. 31
    Nutella says:

    No issue is proving too tiny for Obama and his team as they seek an edge with female voters.

    The only ‘tiny’ issue mentioned in this list was Rosen saying something slightly rude that was then blown up into a huge issue by the Villagers, including Politico Villagers.

    The rest are important issues to the majority of people in this country who are women (51% of population, 53% of voters) but who apparently do not exist in Politico-land.

  32. 32
    john says:

    Love your title, DougJ

  33. 33
    Rock says:

    I honestly can’t believe that someone pays these hacks to write this bullshit.

    This is my favorite comment of week, and could be in almost any thread on BJ lately. All these jobs in media, in which people get paid to spin out anything ranging from pernicious tripe to malevolent lies. Imagine if our society actually paid people to make things better.

  34. 34
    Mike Goetz says:

    @Ash Can:

    Nope it was Carrie Budoff Brown, the alpha snotball on Politico’s roster.

  35. 35
    Shinobi says:

    So why on earth shouldn’t the war on women be a legitimate political issue?

    Because women can’t even vote! Oh wait, we’re letting them vote now?

    Well everyone knows they will just vote the way that their husbands vote. Sweet little things, it’s not like they can understand that we want to tear all their rights away and chain them to their oven.

  36. 36
    jibeaux says:

    @shortstop: I like how she (yes, sigh, the author appears to be a she) thinks she’s playing gotcha! with the whole “Obama says women aren’t an interest group….but he said it to a women’s group!” So idiotic. They aren’t some sort of single issue special interest group like, whatever, the California Watermelon Growers Association. They’re half the population. That doesn’t mean they don’t have a variety of issues that they’re particularly concerned about, in addition to issues of general concern. Is this a difficult concept to understand?

  37. 37
    HRA says:

    I have not read the comments yet.

    Why the war on women became a political issue is all those states headed by an in the majority by Republicans besides the newbie ones in Congress who are outdoing each other making laws against women and their rights. Again another example of “Let me lie down so you can run me over”.

  38. 38
    butler says:

    @amk: Not sure how what I said makes me anything like a troll.

    Politico makes a dumb statement + I question dumb statement = Troll?

  39. 39
    Valdivia says:

    Speaking of this, this weekend is the National March Against the War on Women. If any of you are in the DC area may I encourage you to attend?

    https://www.facebook.com/events/410230738990905/

    They have events pretty much everywhere so join up. Showing up and making noise keeps the story going.

  40. 40
    Ash Can says:

    @Mike Goetz: Thank you for looking so I didn’t have to. And color me surprised — I know perfectly well that women like this exist, but it always gobsmacks me that they do. I guess it all boils down to this:

    Right-wing men: “Women are evil.”

    Right-wing women: “You’re right, master, and we deserve our punishment.”

    ETA: Now that I think of it, I take it back — there are plenty of right-wing women who say, “Surely you don’t mean to include me in that. I’m different.

  41. 41
    shortstop says:

    @jibeaux:

    They aren’t some sort of single issue special interest group like, whatever, the California Watermelon Growers Association. They’re half the population. That doesn’t mean they don’t have a variety of issues that they’re particularly concerned about, in addition to issues of general concern. Is this a difficult concept to understand?

    I guess it is when you’re convinced that white and male is the default setting and everyone else is The Other. Unfortunately, there are some women like Carrie Budoff Brown (that name just cracks me up) who are more than willing to play ball with that attitude so as to demonstrate their alleged girl maverick bonafides to admiring Republican men. Consult also Megan McArdle, Kathleen Parker and every XX at the National Review.

  42. 42
    amk says:

    Karma is such a sweet vengeful beeyotch.

    http://crooksandliars.com/nico.....no-respect

  43. 43
    Burnspbesq says:

    The Republican War on Women continues apace. The Violence Against Women Act is up for reauthorization, and the usual Quislings (Phillys Schafly and Kay Bailey Hutchinson) are leading the effort to not fund expansion of the one program with a clear record of reducing domestic violence.

    Read this, and if it doesn’t piss you off, I respectfully submit there is something wrong with you.

    http://www.tnr.com/article/pol.....n?page=0,0

  44. 44
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @dmsilev:

    I do believe Mrs. Rmoney is trying to win the “Who is the new Marie Antoinette” competition, and steal the title from Babs Bush.

  45. 45
    Face says:

    universally disavowed a supporter’s slipup on Ann Romney

    Wait…this is considered “extreme”? I wonder if these clowns can actually write this shit without busting out laughing at their own dumbfuckery.

  46. 46
    Burnspbesq says:

    @shortstop:

    “These guys are not saying we shouldn’t have one woman on the Supreme Court, but it’s a legitimate issue to ask why there are three, okay?”

    For anyone who understands the demographics of the legal profession, this statement reeks of sexist tokenism.

    There is no principled argument that can be made against Sotomayor or Kagan’s qualifications. A man with either of those resumes would be a slam dunk. Why shouldn’t a woman be a slam dunk?

  47. 47
    shortstop says:

    @Burnspbesq: That was my point, Einstein.

  48. 48
    Valdivia says:

    In regards to that weird weird poll where Romney is said to be more in tune with women and respects them more. here is an article on the outfit that ran the poll: Rasmussen outfit!

  49. 49
    comrade scott's agenda of rage says:

    @hitchhiker:

    Are the boneheads at P-co afraid that I might notice my daughters are still earning less dough for the same work, still seeing themselves sexualized in every media, still being subjected to violence and moralism on levels their male friends don’t have to confront?

    Yes. Thus endeth this week’s episode of One Word Answers.

    As was said above, clicking on links to Politico is akin to clicking on links to Sullivan. Neither will go away soon but the sooner they stop getting site traffic, the sooner they’ll become afterthoughts.

  50. 50
    gbear says:

    Just because no one else has said this yet:

    So why on earth shouldn’t the war on women be a legitimate political issue?

    Because SHUT UP!! That’s why.

  51. 51
    Ash Can says:

    @Burnspbesq: Whoa. Phyllis Schlafly, sure, but Kay Bailey Hutchison too? What the hell does she gain by doing this?

  52. 52
    Rock says:

    The only ‘tiny’ issue mentioned in this list was Rosen saying something slightly rude that was then blown up into a huge issue by the Villagers, including Politico Villagers.

    Well, that’s just one of the things that makes that piece of reportage absolute crap. I guess the boys in the club can pull the cigars out of their mouths and have a chuckle about women having a place to express breast milk at work, but you can damn well be sure that if men were making food for their kids they wouldn’t get shunted into a bathroom stall to do it. Moreover, the reflex reaction to trivialize the right of working women to feed their children and do so with some dignity just confirms what garbage our culture is.

  53. 53
    Burnspbesq says:

    @shortstop:

    If so, you need a remedial writing course, because you utterly failed to communicate what you thought you were communicating.

  54. 54
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    It’s interesting, but in the government, everyone has easy access to know what everyone else in the office/workplace is making, as long as they know the pay grade of the individuals in question.

    In the military, if you’re a sergeant, and have 6 years of service, you’re paid exactly the same, if you’re male or female.

    Out in the private sector, I was informed that it was a firing offense to disclose to other employees what my compensation was.

    /raise eyebrow

    Fascinating

  55. 55
    Culture of Truth says:

    But in these past few months, even he may be taking it to the extreme.

    I just knew Obama would steal this election by appealing to voters.

  56. 56
    shortstop says:

    @Burnspbesq:

    If so, you need a remedial writing course, because you utterly failed to communicate what you thought you were communicating.

    Really? Did anyone else miss the broad-as-a-barn sarcasm extended throughout my comment above?

    Or is is just that Burns is not only a slow study but actually agrees with every other ludicrous sentiment I mocked in my paragraph?

  57. 57
    Burnspbesq says:

    @Ash Can:

    “Whoa. Phyllis Schlafly, sure, but Kay Bailey Hutchison too? What the hell does she gain by doing this?”

    Damned if I know. It’s not like Texas has solved its domestic-violence problem.

    http://www.tcfv.org/pdf/dvam20.....istics.pdf

  58. 58
    Cacti says:

    Planning family size is an economic issue for every couple not rich enough to belong to the Romney’s dressage club.

    Conservatives stepped on their collective dick with Komen and the war on contraception. Now they’re trying to stuff the genie back in the bottle.

    Whining and deploying right wing femagogues hasn’t worked for them, and they’re damn near apoplectic about it.

  59. 59
    kay says:

    @Burnspbesq:

    The bill has had an enormous impact for good on millions of women across the nation, and yet Republicans are in opposition to its reauthorization, largely driven by their disagreement with additional provisions that would accommodate same-sex couples and undocumented immigrants.

    When they passed the constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage in Ohio, it changed some of the statutory definitions that applied to domestic violence, limiting application to married people. It was a humiliating mess for the law ‘n order conservatives, because of course defense attorneys picked it up and used it immediately, in days they were on it, and they had to hurry-up-quick fix it.

    However. Looking at this, maybe they meant to exclude certain people they don’t much like from domestic violence protections.

  60. 60
    Burnspbesq says:

    @shortstop:

    GFY.

  61. 61
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Burnspbesq:

    It’s not like Texas has solved its domestic-violence problem.

    Au contraire, mon frere. If you just ignore it, it’s solved!

  62. 62
    Cacti says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Out in the private sector, I was informed that it was a firing offense to disclose to other employees what my compensation was.

    Not just the military. Every federal agency has a defined pay structure for employees that is completely neutral to race, gender, age, etc.

  63. 63
    shortstop says:

    @Burnspbesq: Of course you’re embarrassed now. But why not use that emotion as a learning experience for once?

  64. 64
    Rhoda says:

    @Jeff Spender: Brother,you made me feel old. I am too young to feel old, lol. That shouldn’t happen for another 10 years.

    God, POLITICO in high school. smh

  65. 65
    Roger Moore says:

    @Burnspbesq:

    If so, you I need a remedial writing reading course, because you I utterly failed to communicate understand what you thought you were communicating.

    FTFY. Her point was completely obvious. Maybe it would have been a tiny bit better with a /sarcasm tag, but if you couldn’t get that it was sarcastic then you need to read things more carefully before responding to them.

  66. 66
    Jim Pharo says:

    Per Robin Corey, the key to GOP fears is not the policy or political implications of gender equality, it’s that they’ll be expected to clean their own clothes and wash their own dishes.

    It’s the private personal threats that animate these people.

  67. 67
    Ash Can says:

    @Burnspbesq: I’m probably one of the few remaining people around here who agrees with you most of the time, but you’re not winning any friends here. You missed shortstop’s snark, BFD, end of story. No need to blame her for it.

  68. 68
    shortstop says:

    @kay: It also extends protection to undocumented immigrants, which is likely Texas Kay’s biggest political concern with it.

  69. 69
    RP says:

    @Burnspbesq: I thought his point was pretty obvious.

  70. 70
    shortstop says:

    @shortstop: Whoops, mea culpa, kay; I see you mentioned undocumented immigrants and I missed it while concentrating on the boldfaced “same-sex.” Well, I suppose it’s hard to say which is a bigger political liability in Tejas.

  71. 71
    Roger Moore says:

    @Cacti:

    Planning family size is an economic issue for every couple not rich enough to belong to the Romney’s dressage club.

    And it’s probably an important social issue to people who are rich enough that it’s not an economic one. Of course those people are rich enough to pay for their own birth control pills or find another option if their local hospital has been taken over by religious fanatics who refuse to provide vasectomies or tubal ligations, so maybe it’s not a big issue to them anyway.

  72. 72
    Catsy says:

    @dmsilev:

    So why on earth shouldn’t the war on women be a legitimate political issue?

    Because a little over half of the US population lacks the Y chromo that makes their issues “real” issues.

  73. 73
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Cacti:

    Planning family size is an economic issue for every couple not rich enough to belong to the Romney’s dressage club.

    This. Just this.

    Some friends of mine from college, happily married, who I in fact introduced to each other (which caused me to quip to their oldest, “I’m responsible for you being here!”), very carefully planned their two pregnancies and subsequent delightful daughters.

    Mind you, he’s an architect and she’s an econ professor. They’re comfortably middle class, yet they planned their family and she’s was on the pill except for the windows they planned to have open for bundles of joy.

    Going after contraception because you’ve got a broomstick permanently up your ass, like Rih Santorum, may play well to similar prudish dipshits, but most Americans understand what is really going on here.

  74. 74
    danielx says:

    Mmmmm, pearl clutching by Politico…tasty.

    Adding to political rules to live by:

    Whenever Politico views something with alarm, do more of it.

  75. 75
    Catsy says:

    @Burnspbesq:

    If so, you need a remedial writing course, because you utterly failed to communicate what you thought you were communicating.

    No, you simply either failed to read closely enough or need your snark-meter calibrated. Look around; no one else seemed to miss the big flashing lights and honking clown horns of shortstop’s sarcasm.

  76. 76
    shortstop says:

    @Catsy:

    I remember the “Year of the Woman” — itself a slogan that made me gag — when so many new congresschicks were elected on the strength of the giant Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings debacle. As far as I could tell from my extensive queries among my acquaintances, Alan Dixon calling women a “special-interest group” was the nail in his career coffin here in Illinois.

  77. 77
    Gretchen says:

    I work with a Republican-leaning new mom. She now has the right to a private room to express milk for her baby, and time to do it. She takes this for granted, as an obvious accommodation for a new mother. Of course, she’d rather have the obvious accomodation for a new mother they have in Europe, a year or two of paid leave to stay home with her baby, but she’d be outraged if she lost the protection the ACA gave her.

  78. 78
    Mino says:

    The previous thread addressed misogyny in Islam and we Westerners were so sure the problem had been addressed in the West permantly. Well, we’d better wake the hell up. Just how much do you think a Teabag Congress and a Republican preisdent would be poised to unroll? The lessons of Wisconsin and Michigan ought to put us in a terror.

  79. 79
    handsmile says:

    I think Valdivia’s comment above (#39) targets why the Village newsletter has chosen to publish this tripe now: to discredit this weekend’s National March Against the War on Women. Cast it as partisan and dismiss its legitimacy.

    Of course, the war on Planned Parenthood continues unabated. Its clinics nation-wide have reported an escalation of “hoax visits” in which prospective clients ask leading questions about sex-selective abortions. Staff members fear these interviews are being secretly videotaped, material that will later be maliciously edited and broadcast. Planned Parenthood leaders have issued this statement:

    “We anticipate that this group, likely in coordination with a broad range of anti-abortion leaders, will soon launch a propaganda campaign with the goal of discrediting Planned Parenthood, and, ultimately, furthering legislation that blocks access to basic reproductive healthcare, including birth control.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....ortionists

  80. 80
    EEH says:

    @Roger Moore: Agreed. Her point was pretty obvious to me, as well. I’m not sure how he missed the sarcasm.

  81. 81
    ricky says:

    All of you are probably unaware that Ann Romney, who really likes animals, told us Seamus liked the crate. Michelle Obama, on the other hand,tells us to keep the sweets we bake away from our kids while we home school them and covers up for that hubby who eats dog.

    This will be no contest.

  82. 82
    jibeaux says:

    @shortstop: Uh, no, I didn’t miss it. Didn’t seem too terribly subtle. But just for clarity, Ann Romney does not actually achieve sexual satisfaction to my knowledge by imagining people going to the CoinStar for gas money. But wouldn’t it be irresponsible not to speculate?

  83. 83
    kindness says:

    Clicked over to the original Politico article to see the comments.

    I hate the comments at Politico. Why do I even bother? I might as well be reading the comments at Fox News and it eats away at my gut.

  84. 84
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @EEH:

    At the risk of getting a 15 yard penalty for piling on, the sarcasm in Shortstop’s post was pretty obvious to me, and I have, on occasion, missed some sarcasm in posts here.

  85. 85
    Catsy says:

    @shortstop: I’m hoping that this year sees a sea change in the participation and voting patterns of women across the country. Romney’s gender gap with Obama is staggering.

    The one silver lining in the GOP’s renewed all-out assault on women’s rights is that the right wing has really ripped the mask off.

  86. 86
    jibeaux says:

    @kindness: Ugh, comments almost anywhere make me want to dump antipsychotic medication into the water supply and donate my life savings to finding a cure for racism. Present company excepted, of course.

  87. 87
    Ruckus says:

    @Burnspbesq:
    I must teach remedial writing then because I understood shortstop perfectly.

  88. 88
    Steeplejack says:

    @Burnspbesq:

    I got it. Maybe you need to adjust replace your snarkmeter.

  89. 89
    Mino says:

    @Catsy: Yep, I think that ship has sailed.

    Their better bet is Hispanics. Culturally, a better fit, too. And now that so many immigrants are self-deporting, it might be safe to bring up the subject with their base.

  90. 90
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Mino:

    The GOP’s best bet may be Hispanics, but their rabid teatard base hates the brown and Spanish speaking with nearly the same intensity as they do the strapping young bucks dining on steak.

    The deserting coward AND Rove understood the importance of appealing to Hispanics, but the teatards, well, just more mud people to them.

  91. 91
    gaz says:

    @shortstop:

    Just how much rank pandering is Obama planning to direct toward this small special-interest group?

    Did you just call 51% of our population a small special-interest group?

    I hope this was snark. And I call Poe’s Law on you. That needed a /snark tag.

    Unless you’re serious, in which case, you have much bigger issues.

  92. 92
    ned says:

    @shortstop: I missed it, but only because I’m an obtuse little asshole.

  93. 93
    El Cid says:

    So why on earth shouldn’t the war on women be a legitimate political issue?

    Because it makes Republicans look bad, even morally wrong. You shouldn’t do that. We all need to come together and agree that the country mostly favors Republicans who are basically right on any important issue, and it’s the job of journalists to then quote Republicans and conservative leaders to that effect.

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    Ruckus says:

    @gaz:
    Please read the comments.

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    giltay says:

    @shortstop: I got it, but it took me a moment. We’re wading into Poe’s Law territory, here.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @El Cid:

    OK, for those of you who might be a bit slow on the uptake, El Cid’s remark was dry sarcasm.

    Just getting that in early.

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    gaz says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: It’s funny too, because many (if not most) Mexican-Americans, and even a plurality of African-Americans are socially conservative.

    If they’d drive a nail into the xenophobic Southern Strategy, these assholes would at the very least be competitive with the Democrats in the demographics dept. Too bad about that racism.

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    Mino says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: Understand I live in the Democratic part of Texas, but middleclass Hispanics and Anglos get along very well down here. Increasingly, Texas large cities are going dem. Rural, well, maybe not.

    But the Teatard generation is dying out. And, as I said, our bad economy has reduced Hispanic immigration to a trickle. In fact, many resident Hispanics are taking their American kids out of this country. If this becomse widely known, Republican strategists might get breathing space on the issue.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Catsy:

    The one silver lining in the GOP’s renewed all-out assault on women’s rights is that the right wing has really ripped the mask off.

    The strange thing is the number of Republican women willing to serve the GOP cause.

    It is also interesting to see religious institutions joining in against women. We previously saw some of these organizations intensify their opposition to gay marriage, but the recent attacks on not just abortion, but contraception are astounding.

    There is for example, an illuminating podcast on public radio station KPCC’s Air Talk on the efforts of the Vatican to rein in the Leadership Conference of Women Religious.

    Last Wednesday, at the bishops’ conference in Rome, the Vatican announced that it is launching an overhaul of the LCWR, which will radically alter its mission of social justice. The Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith cited the group for publicly challenging positions contrary to church doctrine on issues like homosexuality, abortion and the priesthood.

    One of the guests on this program was Donna Bethell, Chairman of the Board of Directors, Christendom College, who essentially said that those who do not support the bishops here should get out of the Church.

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    gaz says:

    @Ruckus: Yes, I’m guilty of skimming – and missed shortstop’s follow up.

    I guess I should submit to a good old BJ forum public-caning now.

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    gaz says:

    @Brachiator:

    One of the guests on this program was Donna Bethell, Chairman of the Board of Directors, Christendom College, who essentially said that those who do not support the bishops here should get out of the Church.

    I agree. It sounds like a fine idea.

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    shortstop says:

    @gaz:

    I guess I should submit to a good old BJ forum public-caning now.

    You’d like that, wouldn’t you, you dirty, dirty girl or boy? Well, we’re not going to do it!

    P.S. Is joke.

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    gaz says:

    @shortstop: Please sir, may I have some MOAR?

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    RedKitten says:

    Tucked inside that lengthy report are nuggets like these: women can now serve on submarines, expect private spaces at most workplaces to express breast milk, and take comfort knowing that the definition of rape was updated for the first time in more than 80 years, a change that means more federal funding to combat domestic violence.

    Yep. Tiny little inconsequential nuggets, like combating domestic violence and rape, and not having to sit there and listen to someone shitting while you’re expressing the food that nourishes your baby.

    Women…aren’t we just so cute with all of our tiny little wants and needs?

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    Persia says:

    take comfort knowing that the definition of rape was updated for the first time in more than 80 years, a change that means more federal funding to combat domestic violence.

    Andn that’s ‘tiny’ to these fuckers. Hold my earrings.

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    RedKitten says:

    Yep…when Ann Romney says this: “I love the fact that there are women out there who don’t have a choice and they must go to work and they still have to raise the kids. Thank goodness that we value those people too. And sometimes life isn’t easy for any of us.”

    Well…as one of “those people”, I sure do appreciate the fact that Ann thinks that her life is hard too. And it comforts me to know what pleasure she gets out of the fact that I have to haul my ass out of bed at 6am and commute an hour to work in order to earn the money that helps pay for the roof over SamKitten’s head and the food in his belly.

    Neither of them have a fucking clue, do they?

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    burnspbesq says:

    @shortstop:

    This is me laughing at the notion that I might be embarrassed.

    You have been wrong and/or stupid so often on such a broad range of topics that there is no shame in missing one of your all-too-rare blind-squirrel-finds-nut moments.

    But thanks for playing.

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    Heliopause says:

    No issue is proving too tiny for Obama and his team as they seek an edge with female voters.

    Every one of the policies subsequently laid out seems correct on the merits, and I don’t mean just to radical extremists like me but to ordinary ‘Merkins. So I guess when the author says “extreme” she doesn’t mean the policies but that Obama is spending an “extreme” amount of time courting women. Seems like a simple remedy would be to start writing articles about the Admin’s “War on dudes,” then they’d be forced to talk about it. So, get on it, Carrie Budoff Brown: Obama’s War on Dudes.

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    Jewish Steel says:

    @shortstop: Strange that everyone seems to have forgotten that you are A) A commenter with a long track record of dry sarcasm and B)A lady.

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    Rafer Janders says:

    @Burnspbesq:

    No, I think everyone pretty much got it except you. But, as usual, you blame others for your own shortcomings.

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    Middlewest says:

    @burnspbesq: Jesus Christ, you’re a hilarious idiot.

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    Mino says:

    @Heliopause: You are too optimistic. They would never see the sarcasm. Of course, Obama is waging war on men. It is zero sum, after all.

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    lethargytartare says:

    @burnspbesq:

    This is me laughing at the notion that I might be embarrassed.

    well, that answers my question about whether you’re an arrogant d-bag all the time.

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    rea says:

    What on earth possessed the Rs to think that ending contraception was an issue that would play well with the voters?

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    Barry says:

    @Burnspbesq: “For anyone who understands the demographics of the legal profession, this statement reeks of sexist tokenism.”

    Please reread that statement, with somebody standing by who knows what sarcasm is.

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    Baron Jrod of Keeblershire says:

    Attention commenters: from now on you must all write only in the most simplistic and literal sense, using only the word definitions from Black’s Law.

    Anything else is confusing to Burnsie, and as we as know when Burnsie gets confused it’s your fault. He’s a genius, you see, so it can’t be his fault. Don’t you see the esquire on his name? That means he’s better and smarter than you.

    P.S. to Burnsie: /sarcasm

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    Roger Moore says:

    @gaz:

    It’s funny too, because many (if not most) Mexican-Americans, and even a plurality of African-Americans are socially conservative.

    But “socially conservative” covers a hell of a lot of ground. Blacks and Hispanics may be culturally conservative, but they’re conservative toward their existing culture, which isn’t the same as the culture the cultural conservatives in the Republican party are trying to protect. It’s not just an issue of racism, but that they really have different cultural heritage on a whole host of issues both religious and secular. Cultural conservatives from different cultures are only natural allies as long as they restrict their goals to protecting their culture from outside influences. Once they move on and try to use the government to impose their culture on everyone, their natural alliance will break up over which culture to impose.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @gaz:

    I agree. It sounds like a fine idea.

    Only if they’re allowed to take their hospitals with them.

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    goblue72 says:

    @shortstop: the sarcasm was so obvious even the dead couldn’t miss it. Burnsy needs to unwind his tighty whities.

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    goblue72 says:

    @shortstop: the sarcasm was so obvious even the dead couldn’t miss it. Burnsy needs to unwind his tighty whities.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Cacti:

    Planning family size is an economic issue for every couple not rich enough to belong to the Romney’s dressage club.

    OMG, why do you HATE HORSES!!

    Just had to get that in before one of the concern trolls shows up.

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    Chet says:

    @Roger Moore: And, of course, this applies not only to white cultural conservatives vs. black and brown ones, but also Catholic vs. Protestant, high-church vs. low-church, town vs. country, etc.

    That’s a big part of why your more serious-minded American reactionaries (of the Russell Kirk/Richard Weaver stripe) tended to stress localism. So did their beloved Burke, for that matter.

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    shortstop says:

    Someone get Frank Burns a cold drink (but for all our sakes, make it nonalcoholic). All that digging is thirsty work, even more so when the digger pretends he’s doin’ nothin’ of the kind.

    @Jewish Steel: I read that with Tom Jones’s voice in my head. I forgive you, though, because you’re fun and funnee.

    @Mnemosyne: Ha! Stop alienating the cowboy vote, stat.

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    Tony J says:

    @burnspbesq:

    This is me laughing at the notion that I might be embarrassed.

    Isn’t pride a sin? To the confessional, Burnsie. Toot Sweet.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Chet:
    You can paper over some of the differences by concentrating only on the points where the cultures are similar, the way Catholics and Evangelicals have made common cause over gays and abortion. But that has its own limits, both because the points of agreement will be narrower and narrower the more different cultures you bring in and because the act of forming coalitions on specific points tends to emphasize those points and make it harder to give up on them as critical later.

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    slag says:

    @shortstop:

    But why not use that emotion as a learning experience for once?

    I LOLd.

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    Gravenstone says:

    @Burnspbesq: Dunno, her intent seemed pretty clear to the rest of us out here in BFE. Just because you got called on having a defective snark-O-meter is no need to get pissy about it.

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    Obama: You want extreme??! I’ll GIVE YOU SOME MOTHERFUCKIN EXTREME!!!

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    VividBlueDotty says:

    @shortstop: No one else missed it. The problem (and need for remedial instruction) seems to lie with Burnspbesq.

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    VividBlueDotty says:

    @VividBlueDotty: Remedial playground manners might be in order for Burnsy as well.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    If the Dems don’t use the Republican’s energetic, enthusiastic and effective war against women against Romneybot, they are idiots.

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    Medicine Man says:

    @Jewish Steel:

    That’s cause her handle sounds like a sports reference and everyone knows women don’t like sports.

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    Rafer Janders says:

    @burnspbesq:

    You are a sad, sad, sad insecure little man. Next time you fall flat on your face in front of everyone, try to take some responsibility for yourself, instead of letting your embarrassment unhinge you.

    Stupid and arrogant is not an attractive combination, whatever you may tell yourself when you stare into the mirror.

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    Lyrebird says:

    @shortstop: My snark-O-meter is faulty but it read your comment quite easily… meters vary. (I laughed out loud & probably scared the bats outside, fwiw)

    Kudos to you for showing how to have a kinda reasonable reaction here on these wild internets.

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