Together, we’re gonna find our way

I’m sure the usual suspects in establishment media will tell us this proves that Fox is a serious news source:

“Last week President Obama talked about not being born with a silver spoon in his mouth. That was interpreted as a big dig at Mitt Romney,” Doocy said toward the end of Fox & Friends. “When I was interviewing Governor Romney on this show I asked him about it. However, I did some paraphrasing that seemed to misquote the president. So to be clear, the president’s exact quote was, ‘I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth.’ And I hope that clears up any confusion.”

As TPM reported Sunday, Doocy added some words to an Obama quote when he last Thursday claimed he said, “Unlike some people, I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth.” What Obama actually said was, “Somebody gave me an education. I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth.”

Doocy’s rendition made it easier to portray the remark as a jab against Mitt Romney while interviewing him — Romney portrayed it as an attack on his father’s success. The misquote was then picked up by the Washington Post and New York Post — both of which later ran corrections — as well as conservative blogs.

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94 replies
  1. 1
    schrodinger's cat says:

    Kinda off the topic but somewhat related.
    Bobo was pimping, crazy PayPal founder Peter Thiel in his column yesterday, apparently we all need to be monopolists. I wonder why.

  2. 2
    c u n d gulag says:

    The wonder of it all is that anyone listens to anything that comes out of that asshole’s pie-hole.

    What a f*cking twit!!!

  3. 3
    butler says:

    Why even bother? Polifact would have rated the fake quote as at least “mostly true”.

    Or is there a rule at Fox which says you have to fess up to one lie a year in order to maintain credibility?

  4. 4
    AA+ Bonds says:

    Doocy is a really scary looking and sounding dude

    I think my favorite bit of his was when he spent like a week in various media talking about how Russia(!) was about to be taken over by sharia law

    I admire its purity

  5. 5
    amk says:

    pox news now ladling out talking points to msm rags. ‘murkan journalism at its best.

  6. 6
    ThatLeftTurnInABQ says:

    So Doocy misquoted a typically inoffensive Obama remark to make it sound like a pointed attack on Mitt Romney’s weakest point, the very thing that most of all the GOP should be concerned that voters not think about, ever? He went out his way to get this idea front and center? So viewers would be reminded that Romney is a vewwy, vewwy wich man.
    __
    These idiots can’t even do agitprop correctly.

  7. 7
    schrodinger's cat says:

    @amk: Isn’t it late in India? How come you are awake? BTW husband is back home, FIL is still in the hospital and recovering slowly.

  8. 8
    yopd1 says:

    Colbert had a great take on this.

  9. 9
    Hunter Gathers says:

    White upper-class douchebag is a liar. I’m shocked, I tells ya. Shocked.

  10. 10
    jibeaux says:

    Yes, when you add words to what someone has said, that is called “paraphrasing.” To paraphrase Mohandas Gandhi,
    “A man is but the product of his thoughts. What he thinks, he becomes, you unsufferable douchebag.”

  11. 11
    slag says:

    “Somebody gave me an education. I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth.”

    I love how they take a highly relevant policy-related comment and turn it into a snipe-fest. Such shallow, pathetic people these are.

  12. 12
    Rick Massimo says:

    “Let’s see, how do I say I was wrong without actually explaining to anyone how I was wrong? Is there a pre-teenager I can consult on how to make a pissy non-apology?”

  13. 13
    amk says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: Yup. It’s midnight. About to hit the sack. Had to stay up for that muslin’s speech in NC. He hit it out of the park, as usual.

    Glad that FILis mending fine.

  14. 14
    butler says:

    @amk: Come back soon, I’m sure there’s plenty of other commenters you can insult tomorrow.

  15. 15
    srv says:

    Wait, where’s the stories that Obama denies taking potshots at his daddy? Shouldn’t this run a few more cycles?

  16. 16
    amk says:

    @yopd1: Colbear kicked the nuts of this douchebag. How could a country stand these rw nuts on air day-in and day-out beats me.

  17. 17
    srv says:

    And wasn’t rich daddies paying all those taxes that gave Obama his education? Honestly, this just peetered out too quick. Obama should be more grateful and all that.

    The fox war room must be asleep.

  18. 18
    slag says:

    @yopd1: Haha! Colbert really nailed it! Unlike some people.

  19. 19
    matt says:

    so really he was talking about policy and not about mitt romney. but fox’s hissy derailed the conversation. mission accomplished, aholes.

  20. 20
    amk says:

    @butler: Your words. You eat them. The end.

  21. 21
    John M. Burt says:

    And what, exactly, would be so terribly wrong, if President Obama were to say (as he has not said), “Mitt Romney was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, has never had to worry about paying the bills, much less about feeding his children. His wife has been fortunate enough never to have been forced to work to support her family.” ?

    It would be no more than the truth, and entirely relevant.

    And if the President is not willing to say it, let’s us all go say it for him.

    Excuse me, I’m going to Facebook right now, BRB . . . .

  22. 22
    butler says:

    @amk: What the fuck are you talking about? You insulted me for no apparent reason.

  23. 23
    David Hunt says:

    @Rick Massimo:

    Is there a pre-teenager I can consult on how to make a pissy non-apology?”

    Doocy can find such a person simply by looking in the mirror.

  24. 24
    Shari says:

    We can’t allow Mitt Romney to define “success”. He keeps using that word when he means “incredibly wealthy.”
    IMO, Pres Obama is very successful. He started with nothing and is now president. Romney started with privilege and is now more privileged.
    For that matter, I consider myself successful. First in family to graduate college. Professional. Happy, healthy children. Doing pretty good, all things considered. And my net worth is no where near either the President or Romney.

  25. 25
    Hal says:

    @yopd1:

    I saw this earlier and it’s great. Especially because Colbert shows clips of Obama using this line several times over several tears.

    He still cracks me up when he says this line could still be aimed at Romney no matter when Obama first used it because Romney’s been running for President since 2005.

    Oh, and Doocy is a fucking horrible interviewer. I love it when he asks a question and then sits back with that idiot smile of his, waiting for the comeback. Softball to conservative guest, then pretend to be stunningly offended at comment liberal made.

  26. 26
    amk says:

    @butler: You posted trollish comments. I called you out. Get over it and quit trolling this thread too.

  27. 27
    Culture of Truth says:

    Apparently if Obama was referring to Mitt it would be meanest thing to say since the first mean person was ever mean and unfair and nasty and partisan also. Meanie.

  28. 28
    butler says:

    @amk: What comments? Again, what the hell are you referring to? I made fun of a shitty Politico article. Since when is that anything but good fun here at BJ?

  29. 29
    kc says:

    However, I did some paraphrasing that seemed to misquote the president

    “Seemed to,” my ass.

    And way to go, WaPo. I’ll bet Bob Somerby is all over this. Not.

  30. 30
    karen marie says:

    Charlie Pierce says that only together will we find our way:

    This blog has been a little monomaniacal on the subject of a political commonwealth recently, and that’s only because a political commonwealth is the only vehicle we have to break out of the habits of oligarchy. We have to stop dreaming of wealth. We have to stop behaving as though a self-governing republic should operate on the same principles as a state lottery, where its benefits come to us only by blind chance.

  31. 31
    amk says:

    @butler: Well, if your posts were snarky, I didn’t get it. Can we move on ?

  32. 32
    Ben Cisco says:

    Gotta love how the rest of the FerengiMedia™ took Douchey’s misquote and ran with it. Not that I expect anything resembling actual journalism out of any of them these days, but still…

  33. 33
    Culture of Truth says:

    To be fair “Unlike Some People” is Mitt Romney Secret Service code name

  34. 34
    Poopyman says:

    @John M. Burt:

    Romney alluded to the fact that not all women can stay at home saying, “I love the fact that there are women out there who don’t have a choice and they must go to work and they still have to raise the kids. Thank goodness that we value those people too. And sometimes life isn’t easy for any of us.”

    From Buzzfeed, via GOS.

  35. 35
    Richard says:

    I’m surprised that they haven’t made the “mistake” of “quoting” Obama as saying that he really was born in Kenya.

  36. 36
    butler says:

    @amk: @amk: Is this your version of a Fox style non-apology?

  37. 37
    AA+ Bonds says:

    Secession? Not in Kenya, Kibaki Warns MRC (CapitalFM)

    Earlier on Tuesday, the proscribed group was engaged in a battle with the police, leaving one protester dead after they were denied entry to a court room in Mombasa to follow proceedings in a case where they want the government to recognise them as a legal group.
    __
    “We are going to deal with members of the MRC ruthlessly,” Mombasa police chief Kipkemoi Rop told AFP.

    __
    The Philanthropic Complex (Jacobin)

    Like the system of patronage that served the arts and charity from the Renaissance through the 18th century, private foundations have the rarest privilege of all: they do not have to explain themselves. They do not have to justify the origins of their wealth, or how they use that wealth, or what the real benefit of their largesse is.
    __
    In the end, what the foundation can be trusted to understand is not forest health, or climate change, or the imperatives of recycling; what it can be trusted to understand is the thing that gives it its privileges: its endowment. Unfortunately, managing how the endowment is invested often leads to conflicts with the stated social purpose of the foundation.

    __
    Frank Miller on Jack Kirby & Creators’ Rights, 1994 (4thletter)

    Ours is a sad, sorry history. We have to keep that in mind while we’re in this room enjoying this. It’s a story of broken lives. Of suicides. Of brilliant talents treated like galley slaves. Talents denied the legal authorship of what they created with their own hands and minds. Ignored or treated as nuisances while their creations went on to make millions and millions of dollars.
    __
    An industry kept alive by love, in spite of all this. The love they gave the page. It’s a powerful thing. We must honor our dead, and we must understand our history. We cannot move forward without looking very clearly at where we have been.

  38. 38
    amk says:

    @butler: Nope. Now GFY. Are you ‘insulted’ ? Good.

  39. 39
    Ben Cisco says:

    @Culture of Truth:

    To be fair “Unlike Some People” is Mitt Romney Secret Service code name

    I’m so stealing that.

  40. 40
    yopd1 says:

    @Culture of Truth: It’s better than Etch-a-Sketch.

  41. 41
    John M. Burt says:

    And what, exactly, would be so bad if the President were to say, quite correctly, “Mitt Romney was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, has never had to worry about paying his bills, much less feeding his children. His wife has never been forced to work in order to support the family.”

    It would be true, and perfectly relevant. Why not say it?

    And if the President won’t say it, let’s all say it for him.

    Excuse me, going to Facebook, BRB . . . .

  42. 42
    jibeaux says:

    I stand with butler. (s)he didn’t say anything unusual or trollish at all, just trash talked politifact. Moving along, has anyone seen mnemsomenye? Yeah, I can’t spell that one. I’m worried that she might have actually made and eaten that casserole. Be on the lookout for her.

  43. 43
    Culture of Truth says:

    At the Correspondents Dinner Obama should come out say “It’s true, my popularity is down this year. But at least more people like me than dislike me. Unlike some people…”

  44. 44
    Schlemizel says:

    Anyone who remembers the 2000 election knows the retractions don’t matter. Later on the altered quote will show up repeatedly on the opinion page and occasionally in news stories until it is true & the actual quote will be the lie.

    see:
    I invented the internet
    I discovered Love Canal
    I was the inspiration for Love Story
    et cetera

  45. 45
    sherparick says:

    What is really bizarre about this is that the WaPo and the NY Times, who had reporters at the President’s actual event, ran the “faux” quote from Doocy and the softballs he was tossying to the Mittster. With the column from public editor Brisbane to tell its readers “who is the real Barack Obama?” it looks like the rehabilitation of the Man from Bain is going full tilt.

  46. 46
    Mnemosyne says:

    @jibeaux:

    I’m here. I ended up making something else for dinner last night, but I may try it tonight.

    Be afraid. Be very afraid.

  47. 47
    butler says:

    @amk: Ditto. Maybe next time you should try actually reading and understanding a comment before responding. Or are you just eager to be the Zimmerman of the Troll Patrol?

  48. 48
    giltay says:

    @slag: You mean, like, “I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this to stay informed and to understand the world?”

  49. 49
    jibeaux says:

    @Mnemosyne: Whew! Admit it, you made the huevos rancheros with the sausage and went out and bought the stuff for Waldorf salad, didn’t you? I was half tempted myself.

  50. 50
    Schlemizel says:

    @jibeaux:
    I must have missed the whole thing – I even went back & reread this thread & don’t see anything trollish from either one of them until they start sniping at each other.

  51. 51
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @giltay:

    ZOMG, a “gotcha!” question. So mean. So cruel. So hard to answer. Especially if you’re a functionally illiterate bimbo.

  52. 52
    Richard says:

    @sherparick:

    What is really bizarre about this is that the WaPo and the NY Times, who had reporters at the President’s actual event, ran the “faux” quote from Doocy and the softballs he was tossying to the Mittster.

    In this modern age of “balanced” reporting, I’m sure those journalists would excuse themselves by stating that they accurately quoted Doocy and that it’s not their fault that he happened to be lying.

  53. 53
    Culture of Truth says:

    WaPo: “where even stengography is too taxing”

  54. 54
    jibeaux says:

    @Schlemizel: Blogospheric navel gazing cubed this is…this morning, there’s the Politico thread about women. Has something in it about Obama taking the “unusual” step of calling Sandra Fluke. Butler says, what’s unusual about that, calling people is probably half of his job.
    amk says

    “so what words stirred your troll nose ? Obama, women’s right, planned parenthood ? And whose sock-puppet are you ?”

    I think that’s the beginning, middle, and maybe not end of it but that seems to be it. Like I said, not trollish.

  55. 55
    AnotherBruce says:

    Really who cares if it was a dig at Romney? Did Obama hurt his feelings? If so, too bad.

  56. 56
    Culture of Truth says:

    @AnotherBruce: Going after a candidate’s family is considered out of bounds. In this case, Ann Romney’s husband.

  57. 57
    Mike E says:

    @Ben Cisco:

    took Douchey’s misquote and ran with it

    ’cause, you know, it’s what O really meant. Class warfare!

  58. 58
    butler says:

    @jibeaux:

    Blogospheric navel gazing cubed this is

    That it was. I apologize to everyone for ruining a thread. Just got under my skin.

  59. 59
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @jibeaux: I was frightened by the very existence of sweet potato tater tots.

  60. 60
    Baron Jrod of Keeblershire says:

    Self-important commenters confusing obvious snark with serious commentary seems to be a theme today at Balloon Juice.

    OT: An update on the new Georgia homeowners who were accosted by their new neighbors with assault rifles and then arrested for being at their new house. In short, the neighbors with guns were arrested and the deputies who arrested the homeowners are probably in some trouble. But check out this quote from one of the gun-toters:

    “I don’t know what they can charge me with,” Canoles said late Monday afternoon, before the interview with authorities. “This is my Second Amendment right. Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own.”

    That’s right! As it turns out, the second amendment gives you the right to go onto someones else’s property and “protect” it with your big manly guns. Including protecting it from the actual owner of the property, if he happens to be black. Let’s not pretend we don’t know what this piece of shit means when he says “we protect our own.”

  61. 61
    Schlemizel says:

    @jibeaux:
    I saw that this morning & but didn’t connect that to the childish snit witnessed in this thread. WTF?

    1) How was that even mildly trollish?
    2) assume it was & I’m dense (I can be) so what?
    3) why drag it into a thread hours later?

    A couple of rules would really help here kiddies
    1) first assume no offense intended.
    – obviously the hard core trolls do not need this caveat but why assume immediately that your misreading or your inflection means they meant to be offensive?
    2) Learn to forget & move on
    – one of the most annoying members of our happy family cannot let anything go, most particularly a former front pager. It makes reading them something to be avoided when some times their posts actually are OK. If they could just move on it would be better for everyone. And if others could learn to ignore & not continue the battle in every Pasta damned thread it might help too.
    3) Until they prove otherwise the folks here pretty much want what you want
    – they might love Obama too much or too little for you, they might agree with bloggers you hate with a white hot heat hate of everlasting ire. So what? they probably are your allie on 90% be happy and allow them some slack.

    Is this really all that hard?

  62. 62
    Culture of Truth says:

    “This is my Second Amendment right. Look, this is the country out here, and we protect our own.”

    This is obvious snark.

  63. 63
    Professor says:

    @sherparick: It was New York Post (owned by Rupert Murdoch)Not New York Times

  64. 64

    @Baron Jrod of Keeblershire: The best part is the photo of the two vigilantes … the Deliverance vibe runs deep. Lord protect us from stupid (and armed) white people. They are the scariest.

  65. 65
    Baron Jrod of Keeblershire says:

    @Culture of Truth: I demand an apology for your trolling.

  66. 66
    jibeaux says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I bought the Alexia ones once. I don’t know why, my state is the king daddy sweet potato producer and they’re available year round for peanuts. A guy at work has a ton of gleaned ones every year. Literally, there is a ton in the back of his pickup truck available for anyone to take. It’s some sort of trade for hunting rights or something, redneck commerce. The fair market value is probably $75. ANYWAY, that particular brand was not good at all.

  67. 67
    shortstop says:

    I would secretly like to try sweet potater tots. I’m not proud of it, but there it is.

  68. 68
    jibeaux says:

    @butler: Oh, I understand, not your fault. I think I once went twelve rounds with ThymeZone, who knows what handle he is now, who for some reason firmly believed that I was posing as a female but that I was not in fact a female. I think we all know how important it is on the internet to confront these sort of perceived deceptions. Yes. Anyway, in the end I was vindicated by RedKitten, bless her heart, who pronounced me undisputably a girl following a towel-folding discussion. So there ya go, I went ahead and took that nonsense to the fifth power.

  69. 69
    jibeaux says:

    @Schlemizel: Yes, that all sounds very sensible. Did you know, however, that you’re on the internets?

  70. 70
    Valdivia says:

    DougJ in case you didn’t see it I left you a musical (sort of, more historical) link in the Corssroads thread. :)

  71. 71
    Brooklyn Michael says:

    The misquote was then picked up by the Washington Post and New York Post — both of which later ran corrections — as well as conservative blogs.

    And the conservative blogs also ran corrections, right?

  72. 72
    Mnemosyne says:

    @shortstop:

    jibeaux is right, though — the Alexia brand is not very good. That’s one of the reasons I’m trying to use them up in tater tot casserole form.

  73. 73
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @jibeaux: Folded in thirds?

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    shortstop says:

    @Mnemosyne: I probably won’t do it. I’m kind of a nut for cooking with fresh foods and avoiding processed stuff as much as possible. But when I fall, it’s epic, like Kraft Macaroni and Cheese epic.

  75. 75
    MattR says:

    @Baron Jrod of Keeblershire: @Emperor of Ice Cream: While I hope this makes it into the “one day we can look back on this and laugh” category, I have a feeling this will sow the seeds of a tense relationship between the new neighbors.

  76. 76
    shortstop says:

    @MattR: Especially because–just look at their bovine faces, you can tell–they’re going to blame the black guy for getting them in trouble with the law and be simmering with resentment over it.

  77. 77
    Nutella says:

    Speaking of bad punditry, here’s an amusing review of the worst pundit prediction errors of the R primary.

  78. 78
    AxelFoley says:

    SMH

    Steve Douche

  79. 79
    Tonal Crow says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: That’s classic Bobo propaganda, and in the very throes of birth. He’s beginning a campaign to redefine “monopolist” as an ordinary middle-class (or even lower-class) individual trying to make her way in a harsh world. Look for this meme to spread rapidly through the Republican (read: crazy fascist) blogosphere and “news” sites. I predict McMegan will be the next high-profile fascist to take up the baton.

  80. 80
    yopd1 (formerly BDeevDad) says:

    @Brooklyn Michael: They actually believe Doocy got it from a Conservative Blog in the first place (not going to link to it but the title of a post at AllahPundit)
    Although that assumes that Doocy can read.

  81. 81
    DougJ says:

    @Valdivia:

    But no one caught my Silver Spoons reference here.

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    cckids says:

    Late to it, but what has amazed me is that no winger blogs have picked up on the President’s “somebody gave me an education” part of the sentence. Given their obsession with his grades, thesis, etc, a big part of which (from what I’ve seen) has been “WHO PAID FOR HIS TUITION OMG” and assorted freakouts of that nature. Surely some of them are frantically pointing to this as PROOF, aren’t they?

  83. 83
    Heliopause says:

    It might be worth pointing out here, again, to those who thought it worthwhile to defend Hillary Rosen’s ridiculous comments; this is how a skillful politician talks about these things. During the Rosen flap the Obamas didn’t reflexively defend her, they talked about what a wonderful mother Michelle is. When Obama uses the “silver spoon” meme he is simply repeating some of the more admirable aspects of his own story, and when the right overreacts (is that phrase an oxymoron, by the way?) to something Obama’s been saying for years they come off looking stupid. Please keep this in mind over the coming months. There will be plenty of opportunities to point out the shortcomings of your opponents but it ought to be done intelligently.

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    So when Obama talks about how he wasn’t born into privilege, the Romney campaign automatically takes umbrage. Huh. Methinks the lady doth protest too much?

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    Mickey says:

    I think Wrong Way Cole may have finally figured out a way to get rid of me. Handle, IP, and proxy server bans haven’t worked.

    What finally may work is allowing people like DougJ to continue to post. His stuff is getting so bad it’s not even fun to make fun of.

  86. 86
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @DougJ: I JUST CAUGHT IT and wanted to mention Rickey Schroeder in this comment and now I can’t get any credit for all the useless outdated things I can’t help knowing. Sigh.

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    Lojasmo says:

    @jibeaux:

    I fold my towels in half, then in half the same way, then in thirds the other way.

    Girl or boy?

  88. 88
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Lojasmo: I always want to fold everything in thirds. It’s just aesthetically and intellectually satisfying.

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    ruemara says:

    @DougJ: Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back. Who couldn’t catch the Silver Spoons reference. Now the damn theme song is rolling around my brain. Thanks a lot.

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    Baron Jrod of Keeblershire says:

    @Mickey: Ohnoez! The person whose greatest amusement is saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over thinks you suck, DougJ!

    I think your next post should be about how Always Wrong Cole is always wrong, because that is a topic of endless fascination.

  91. 91
    Djur says:

    Did you hear about Steve Doocy’s vacation last summer? He “seemed to” fuck every goat in a five-mile radius.

  92. 92
    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Djur: I think Steve Doocy looks like one of those apple-head dolls.

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    Valdivia says:

    @DougJ:

    I definitely didn’t. I am really losing my game here. Am I going to have to pout again? ;)

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    alex milstein says:

    Says Doofussy: “…I did some paraphrasing that seemed to misquote the president.”

    Ah, it only ‘seemed to misquote.’ Well, Steve, when you add words that weren’t in the actual statement and totally twist the context of what the President said, that would certainly ‘seem’ to be a misquote. The President wasn’t talking about Romney. He was talking about helping young people get to college. You know, the thing snobs talk about.

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