Pure science

As summarized by William Saletan (h/t gogol’s wife):

A pure scientist would let us purge these traits from the gene pool by fighting and killing one another.

51 replies
  1. 1
    Baud says:

    Good idea. Let’s start with Saletan.

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    Egg Berry says:

    You can’t Godwin that which has been Godwinned from the start.

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    Zifnab says:

    “Conservatives value charity and self-sacrifice and community and the family unit and cooperation and synergy. That’s six things! Liberals just value helping people. That’s only one thing. Conservatives win! Now lets gut social security and medicare.”

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    David Hunt says:

    Like Pat Buchanan’s speech at that Republican Convention years ago, I suspect the above quote sounded better in the original German.

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    ant says:

    yall gonna put up a post on the Oklahoma shooting?


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    the Conster (f/k/a Cat Lady) says:

    I’m not getting out of the boat but feel safe to say that it’s a sociopath rendering judgment on fellow sociopaths as being intellectually, hence morally superior to all of us natural serfs, amirite?

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    DougJ, Head of Infidelity says:


    Not another shooting. That sucks.

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    El Cid says:

    You know, “pure”, not one of these mudblood types.

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    the Conster (f/k/a Cat Lady) says:


    It’s only a lone nutjob who all of the neighbors liked. Disregard the Mark Levin, Turner Diaries and Glenn Beck books, and The 5000 Year Leap obsession.


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    Chris says:

    As a scientist and a human being, I’m offended. Saletan clearly knows nothing of either science or morality.

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    RD says:

    How predictable was it that firebaggers would fall in behind John Derbyshire?

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    Anoniminous says:


    Tulsa Race Riot.

    Have to keep up them old Southern traditions, ya know.

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    Gladiator gonna modify your hypothesis.

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    Marcellus Shale, Public Dick says:

    it was funnier the way george carlin said it.
    4 groups


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    RD says:


    What’s the point, except as just another news story?

    Who knows.

    Perhaps the point is that you’re a pussy that deserves to lose.

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    Be careful what you wish for, Bill. Science-types have the better weapons.

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    Aw holy hell. First we had that racist crap from John Derbyshire. Now this?

    Conservatives: What the fuck is wrong with you people?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @RD: Moran.

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    Peter says:

    OT: Apparently Obama signed some kind of jobs bill yesterday? I can’t find any source with details though. Anybody in the know?

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    @Southern Beale:

    Conservatives: What the fuck is wrong with you people?

    There’s a blah dude in the White House, and it’s making them lose their shit even worse than normal.

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    Jennifer says:

    Ok, I am sorry, I am NOT a good person, but this from the comments on Kinkade’s passing over at the SA forums was just too good not to pass along:

    Aziraphale posted:
    You should have seen the Andrew Breitbart thread. Holy cow you’d think that guy was Hitler.

    Hey guys I like watching Bob Ross have you all had a chance to piss on his grave yet?

    Bob Ross taught millions to paint happy trees. For free. Devoted that part of his life to share the joy of making art with people. Kinkade ran something that could be described as a painting sweatshop, and made millions by exploiting the alzheimers-riddled nostalgia of the elderly.

    If I find myself pissing on Bob Ross’ grave you bet your rear end I’ll be drawing a tree with the stream.

    Also, it really makes me want to go read the Andrew Breitbart thread.

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    Baud says:

    @Peter: Not a real jobs bill. I think it loosens some rules to make it easier for small businesses to get investor funding.

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    KG says:

    @Roger Moore: I think another part of it is the idea that they thought “standing athwart history yelling ‘stop!'” was actually something they could do. And they’ve come to the conclusion that history will just run them the fuck over.

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    KG says:


    If I find myself pissing on Bob Ross’ grave you bet your rear end I’ll be drawing a tree with the stream.

    happy little trees, I hope

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    Peter says:

    @Baud: Ah, okay. It was the subject of a Backers email for the Wasteland 2 Kickstarter today, and I’ve spent all the time since wondering what the hell they we’re talking about. I found a few articles about the signing but none with any real details.

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    samara morgan says:

    you and saletan could both benefit from reading the Republican Brain, dougj betrayer in chief.
    how about a BJ book club post?
    I’m sure chris already gave John a copy.

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    gogol's wife says:

    @samara morgan:

    “betrayer in chief”? What is the problem now? Why am I asking this question? Procrastination is a terrible thing. It makes you do things like this.

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    @samara morgan:

    Mooney’s new book actually would be an excellent BJ Book Club subject…
    Just sayin’.

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    Yutsano says:

    @gogol’s wife: Please don’t. The child is on a racist supporting eugenics kick.

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    Egg Berry says:

    i’m not sure Bob Ross = Kinkade.

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    samara morgan says:

    @gogol’s wife: dougj uses one translation of the arabic phrase OBL applied to Obama.
    I’m just giving alternate interpretations of the arabic to capture what OBL really meant.
    dougj thinks “head of infidelity” is funnie in the “look at those stupid muslims” sense.
    it just means westerners are poor translators of arabic.
    OBL hated and feared Obama far more than Bush.

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    samara morgan says:

    @Judas Escargot, Your Postmodern Neighbor: yay! we agree on something!

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    RD says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Truth be told, I miss the heyday of the Cracker Pack.

    WyldPirate is just…lame.

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    beltane says:

    @RD: I am hurt that BOB hasn’t made an appearance yet. Maybe our better trolls are trolling more heavily trafficked websites than this one, although I would like to remind them that they get more bang for their buck here as we actually take the time to read and respond to their trolling.

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    Bruuuuce says:

    I’m sorry, but neither the Shadows nor the Vorlons are worth acceding to. This is OUR galaxy now!

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    Citizen_X says:

    @Roger Moore: As a real scientist (“pure?” What the unholy fuck?), I say we follow the blah dude with a chick, a Messkin, and a Mooslim dude in the White House (all somewhat liberal, of course), so that the sociopaths may continue to identify themselves and repel all but their fellow 27%ers.

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    RD says:


    What do you want?

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    Tyro says:

    The unintentional conclusion Haidt makes is this: “Conservatives Hate Us For Our Freedoms”

    Unfortunately, he’s so caught up in his Stockholm-Syndrome-like affection for his conservative subjects that he doesn’t see it.

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    RD says:


    What do you want?

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    RD says:


    What do you want?

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    RD says:


    What do you want?

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    samara morgan says:


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    RSA says:

    A pure scientist would let us purge these traits from the gene pool by fighting and killing one another.

    I guess for Saletan, true scientists are all eugenicists.I wonder if he got a different message from Lord of the Flies than the rest of us?

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    Persia says:

    @Chris: I knew that back when he started saying people disregarded the Bell Curve for no good reason.

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    RD says:

    Sometimes FYWP is unintentionally funny…

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    samara morgan says:

    another banning in process.

    I’m slowly disappearing like the cheshire cat.

    that last thing to go will be my smile……

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    RD says:

    @samara morgan:

    You argue in good faith and you show your work.

    Keep smiling.

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    (another) Josh says:

    Hey, that’s Isaac Asimov’s nephew eviscerating Saletan! Cool.

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    Some Guy says:


    You’re a goon?

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