Wednesday Evening Open Thread: What Romney Will Not Say


(Tom Toles via GoComics.com)
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Because I can’t resist sharing, here’s a taste of Charlie Pierce at Esquire on the Romneybot’s Wisconsin triumph:

… To pull off as shameless and utterly unprincipled a “pivot” as the one that is being proposed by the various handicappers on the bus would tax even the formidable internal guidance system of the Romneybot 2.0, for which being shameless and unprincipled is the only one of its prime functions that has worked perfectly throughout the campaign. The only way I see of doing it is to be so honest about being shameless and unprincipled that the whole wide world is so impressed by the sheer magnitude of your big, clanging brass balls that it forgets that you’d sell Massachusetts to the Somali pirates for five more points in next month’s Gallup poll, or 250 votes in Alabama… So, now that it’s very nearly, perhaps, almost, sort of Opening Day, let me suggest a “Big Speech” the candidate can deliver some time over the next three weeks, when nothing is really going on, and all that’s left to the campaign is empty bloviating (Hi, Newt!) and bitter recrimination (or, as it is known around the Santorum household, Our Reason To Live.) Give it to ’em between the eyes, Willard:
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“I’m Willard Romney, bitches, and how you like me now?
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“See what I did there on Tuesday night? I hammered those punks like ten-penny nails into a wedge of fine cheddar. I am a strong, able Republican with more money than God and an even greater taste for mindless destruction and casual vengeance. I am not a jack Mormon. I am a gangsta Mormon, motherfkers, and the country is my bling. I am Moroni’s Omar. I am the Stringer Bell of the Great Alkali Plain and the world is mine, whenever I want it. Come at the king, you best not miss. I’ll bury your ass like I buried Santorum’s, under so much money that nobody will ever find it, even though I hear it glows red in the dark every time someone mentions The Pill. I bought me a Wisconsin and a Maryland and a D.C., although I am aware that even my wealth — and have you noticed that I have $250 million stashed away for a rainy fking century? — wouldn’t be enough to carry The District in the general. But all I really have to do is spend enough to carry 51 percent of the Green Rooms there and I’m home fking free. And I can do that. Chuck Todd’s already halfway down into my vest pocket, looking for loose doubloons. And you know why?
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“Because I’m Willard Romney, bitches, and I can buy and sell your great-grandchildren and you won’t even know it happened.
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“You actually think I believe some of jive I’ve been running this year? That’s the part of you that I fking own now. You think you own me, but I own you, motherfkers. None of your heroes took the field, and everyone else who did was a clown. Meanwhile, I’m spreading green like I’m Vigoro and today, you look up and it’s me or That Person in the White House, and you’re all quivering in your Sansabelts. Don’t you fools understand? I bought your party. You hated me. You distrusted me. And now you have to vote for me. See how that happens? Happens all the time with me. The Supreme Court put your party up for auction and I was the high bidder, and I was the high bidder because I’m Willard Romney, bitches, but you can call me, “Sir.”…

Much more hilarity at the link. So… apart from Republicans Acting Badly, what’s on the agenda this evening?

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131 replies
  1. 1
    Lojasmo says:

    Very happy to support Obama.

  2. 2
    Ivan Ivanovich Renko says:

    All it needs is a dope beat…

  3. 3
    Ben Franklin says:

    Epic rant.

    I’m gonna be Ike. Seriously, my pops liked Ike.

    Eisenhower. Great General. Worst Presidunce, ever.

  4. 4
    satby says:

    No one can sum it up quite as well as Pierce.

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    rikyrah says:

    Pierce is HILARIOUS

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    urlhix says:

    I like the analogy of Romney as Stringer Bell.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Ben Franklin:

    Eisenhower. Great General. Worst Presidunce, ever.

    Not. Even. Close. Hell, he’s probably the best Republican President of the past Century.

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    lamh35 says:

    @urlhix: I do not like the analogy of Stringer Bell, not for logic reason, but when I hear Stringer Bell I think Idris Elba…I love Idris Elba…in my fantasies, I am married to Idris Elba and we have a beautiful “nuclear” family, 2 kids and a dog, and a beautiful home…I refuse to have my fantasies sullied by Mitt freakin’ Romney…

    Romney = Stringer Bell…HELL TO DA NAW!

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    The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik says:

    You know, years have gone by, and yet, I still find myself utterly baffled about how successfully the GOP manages to tap that well of Projection and manage to accuse their enemies of sins the GOP is guilty of by magnitudes more, and still fucking, fucking, fucking get away with it time and time a-fucking-gain to massive profit.

    I still feel like I just want to give up sometimes because of how impenetrable it feels. There seems to be literally no way of upending them ever to where they don’t end up stupidly more powerful and influential than ever.

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    Ben Franklin says:

    @Roger Moore:

    I knew I over hyperbolized.

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    Elisabeth says:

    all that’s left to the campaign is empty bloviating (Hi, Newt!) and bitter recrimination (or, as it is known around the Santorum household, Our Reason To Live.)

    Ho.Lee.Shit, that’s some good stuff.

  12. 12
    KG says:

    @Elisabeth: this is even better:

    Thank your personal gods for me, motherfkers, because, if you ran her, we’d lose 50 states, and Saskatchewan and Alberta would vote against her just for fun.)

  13. 13
    urlhix says:

    @lamh35, Does thinking of Obama as Omar Little help? Cause he is way hotter.

  14. 14
    jl says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Eisenhower was an expert at hiding his true self under a cover of genial bafflegab and seeming confusion. He did it much better than Reagan, but then Reagan had more to hide.

    No way Romney could pull an Eisenhower. Romney is too deadly earnest in his lack of principles.

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    lamh35 says:

    @urlhix: um in no way is Omar hotter than Stringer, how dare you :)

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    handsmile says:

    @Ben Franklin: (#3), @Roger Moore: (#7)

    Re Eisenhower
    Perhaps this may be of interest: in the current issue of the New York Review of Books (not yet available online), there is a review essay by the historian Thomas Powers on two recent biographies, Eisenhower: the White House Years and Eisenhower in War and Peace. The review’s title: “He Got the Big Things Right.”

    My candidate for worst US president: James Buchanan.

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    Raven says:

    @lamh35: Depends on what your definition of hotter is! You watched Idris Elba in Luther?

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    urlhix says:

    @lamh35: SHEEEET.

    /Clay Davis

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    kd bart says:

    Have you seen this on Twitter?

    Torii Hunter ‏ @toriihunter48 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    My alarm went off in my house while I was in it. 20mins later I saw cops checking out the scene. Went outside and they drew there guns on me

    Torii Hunter plays Centerfield for the Angels. He followed with this:

    RT @toriihunter48: They didn’t believe I lived here in Newport coast so they walked me upstairs at gunpoint to get my ID.

    And this:

    RT @toriihunter48: When I showed him my ID, he said I’m an angel fan hope u guys have a great season. ARE U KIDDING ME!!!!!! Lol

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    Roger Moore says:

    @jl:
    Eisenhower also believed in a government that could and should do things for its citizens. He started the Interstate Highway system, warned against the Military Industrial Complex, and even sent in the 101st Airborne to enforce desegregation in Little Rock.

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    Ben Franklin says:

    @kd bart:

    He wasn’t shot? He should feel lucky this Season.

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    urlhix says:

    How could they not know that they were pulling up to Torii Hunter’s house? Don’t they have computers in their squad car?

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    jl says:

    @handsmile:

    I think biggest criticism of Eisenhower, from what I have read, is that he fell in love with Allied WWII covert operations, and deluded about how much similar derring do could accomplish in peace time. So, he started US habit of meddling with lefty seeming leadership and movements in supposedly strategic countries. Which caused lasting damage. Iran and Guatemala.

    Eisenhower also tried some ill advised free market experiments in agriculture, which were ended very quickly as the political damage of the results became clear.

    But with Harding, Nixon, and GW Bush around, hard to see how Eisenhower was an epically bad GOP president.

    Reagan would be in the running for epically bad GOP president except for a few big and important good decisions he made: reversing his income tax cuts, deciding to deal with the Soviet Union (imagine if GHW Bush who seemed to want to keep the Cold War going, were president during that critical time) and arms control initiatives.

    So, I am not an Eisenhower fan, but do not see how he was worst, as 20th century presidents go.

    Edit: forgot the point of my comment, which was a thankyou for the heads up on Ike articles, I will watch for them. I am old and tired and my mind wanders.

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    The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik says:

    @kd bart:

    He should be counting his lucky stars the cop was a fan. I hate the fact that I’m thinking that and saying that, but….yeah.

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    jl says:

    @Roger Moore: That is true. And he did fight the Texas billionaire proto wingnuts in the GOP.

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    lamh35 says:

    @Raven: yep…Idris is even hotter when he’s tormented…lol.

    Love that accent.

  27. 27
    MikeBoyScout says:

    Y’all turned me on to Charlie, so I’ll turn you on
    http://www.nickibluhm.com/video/#vansessions

    via Mock, Paper, Scissors

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    mellowjohn says:

    every day i say to myself, “pierce can’t possibly top this.”
    and every day he does.

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    Chris says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Hell, he’s probably the best Republican President of the past Century.

    His foreign policy’s what does it for me. The Iran, Guatemala and Zaire coups were disastrous, pretty much ending any chance we had at winning the goodwill of the third world and, in the first case, leading directly to the regime that’s still giving us migraines today.

    But yeah, he’s probably the best Republican President of the twentieth century. It’s a toss-up between him and Teddy Roosevelt, though I’ve got issues with him too. But Ike is pretty much the only Republican candidate since 1932 that I can see myself voting for (the first time, that is).

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    Roger Moore says:

    @handsmile:

    My candidate for worst US president: James Buchanan.

    He seems to be the consensus choice, at least in recent polls. Other regular low scorers include Harding, Pierce, and Fillmore. I expect Shrub to be a regular resident of the bottom tier, too.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Eisenhower also believed in a government that could and should do things for its citizens. He started the Interstate Highway system, warned against the Military Industrial Complex, and even sent in the 101st Airborne to enforce desegregation in Little Rock.

    Proving that Ike was a stinkin’ RINO decades before they coined the term!

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    MikeJ says:

    @lamh35: And good long terms too. Shortest was six years, up to what, 65?

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    urlhix says:

    @lamh35: I will admit he is a good looking man. But like the Rmoney, it’s the greed that makes his character too ugly to consider for the list.

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    Chris says:

    @jl:

    I think biggest criticism of Eisenhower, from what I have read, is that he fell in love with Allied WWII covert operations, and deluded about how much similar derring do could accomplish in peace time. So, he started US habit of meddling with lefty seeming leadership and movements in supposedly strategic countries. Which caused lasting damage. Iran and Guatemala.

    I think Ike, coming out of the bloody stalemate in Korea (not to mention World War Two), saw spy games as an alternative way to exercise power with less blood and less political blowback.

    He also gave a lot of leeway to his advisers, which in foreign policy, happened to be the Dulles brothers – a couple of fairly huge assholes.

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    gex says:

    @Ben Franklin: I thought the visual cue of the misspelling had you covered.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Chris:

    But yeah, he’s probably the best Republican President of the twentieth century. It’s a toss-up between him and Teddy Roosevelt, though I’ve got issues with him too. But Ike is pretty much the only Republican candidate since 1932 that I can see myself voting for (the first time, that is).

    I meant “over the past 100 years” when I said that, as a way of excluding Roosevelt from the running. That leaves Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and the Bushes. Eisenhower seems like the obvious winner- or maybe non-loser- of the bunch.

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    Ben Franklin says:

    @gex:

    Presidunce is correctly spelled only when it is used in reference to dubya.

    Otherwise, that escape hatch would be used.

  39. 39
    lamh35 says:

    Tyler Perry Accuses Atlanta Police of Racial Profiling, Investigation Underway

    Tyler Perry says he was a victim of some not-so-civil treatment by Atlanta police.
    An internal investigation has been launched into the filmmaker and TV producer’s claim that two officers acted hostilely toward him during a traffic stop because he is black, and only relented when a black officer showed up and apparently recognized Perry, E! News confirmed Wednesday…

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    jl says:

    @gex: I like Franklin’s ‘over hyperbolized’. Presidunce is good too, but whatever Eisenhower was, he was not a dunce. I think he did like to appear dunce-like as president when dealing with the press, and he did not want to answer questions.

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    gex says:

    @The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik: But he couldn’t tell it was Torii? Torii is identifiable.

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    Citizen_X says:

    @kd bart: Yeebus. This isn’t the only recent case, so…if you’re blah or latino, don’t get an alarm system, because you might get popped by the cops? Security companies are going to love that.

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    urlhix says:

    I love to tell wingers that we should return to Eisenhower level tax rates. That’s when the country was really great!

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    MikeJ says:

    @jl: I never burn anything. I over-caramelize.

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    lacp says:

    Ike, Nixon, Reagan….it’s a Republican nostalgia-fest here tonight!

    So,this: “A fifteen trillion debt will be far easier to deal with out of a full employment economy with greatly reduced needs for unemployment benefits and welfare payments than a five trillion debt from an economy in the doldrums with its equipment in disrepair.”

    Paul Krugman?

    Dean Baker?

    Nope…William Vickrey, October 5, 1996

  46. 46
    Calming Influence says:

    I miss bitching and whining about how much the site makeover sucks.

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    The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik says:

    @gex:

    You know all those brown people look the same, even the famous ones. Don’t hate. I mean, I used to mistake Mike Tyson and Bryant Gumbel all the time. :(

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    burnspbesq says:

    @Ben Franklin:

    Eisenhower. Great General. Worst Presidunce, ever.

    Wow, you’re en fuego today. Everything you’ve written has been stupid.

    Ever heard of Martin Van Buren? How about Ulysses S. Grant? George W. Bush? Herbert Hoover?

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    jl says:

    @lacp:

    William Vickrey! There’s a blast from the past. Too bad he died so soon after receiving the Nobel (Memorial) prize in econ. But then, I think he was well into his 80s when he won it.

    Anyway, a Nobel Vickery running around would have stirred things up in an interesting way.

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    handsmile says:

    @Roger Moore: (#30)

    I expect Shrub to be a regular resident of the bottom tier, too.

    There is no more conclusive and utterly damning evidence of this war criminal’s enduring toxicity than his absence, in person or by invocation, from the 2012 Republican primary campaign.

    It’s part of the reason I find the notion that his slightly less dimwitted brother could be a national political figure in this election cycle so risible.

  51. 51
    Amir Khalid says:

    Some reporting on Obama’s “controversial” remarks re PPACA at the Supreme Court. The press corps’ take on the remarks seems way off to me.

  52. 52
    Ben Franklin says:

    @burnspbesq:

    You left out Nixon, Segretti and that’s a definite tell

    Or is it Freudian?

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    Violet says:

    @Calming Influence:
    I’ll take that action. I tried to post more than one paragraph in a blockquote using the traditional double underscore between paragraphs to get it all to show up in the blockquote but it didn’t work. The first paragraph was in the blockquote but the rest were not. Is there a new trick to posting more than one paragraph inside a blockquote and getting it all to show up properly?

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    joel hanes says:

    @jl:

    In WWII, Eisenhower was responsible for logistics and strategy in a successful continental invasion.

    Amateurs chatter about tactics; pros do logistics. Ike was among the ablest.

    Ike also apparently wrote a letter before each of the major actions, to be submitted if the battle was lost; in these letters, he accepted full responsibility for the loss and praised the forces under his command for their efforts.

    Here is a discussion of the D-day letters.

    Good luck finding anyone in what’s left of Eisenhower’s party today with the integrity to accept responsibility for much of anything.

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    jl says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Well of course they are off base. That is their job, to be off base and useless.

    If the press court infants keep it up, I suggest that

    “He was referring to 85 years of judicial precedent, of Supreme Court precedent, with regard to matters like the one under consideration. And it’s maybe fun to pretend he meant otherwise, but everyone here knows that that’s what he meant.”

    with

    “eff off, clowns.”

    The FactCheck article was willfully and painfully dim.

    If and when Democrats get the rep for winning, these tools will turn about face very quickly.

    I am prejudiced against the US press right now, since I traveled all last week and was exposed to watching tens of minutes of infantile US TV BS at a time in airports and various lobbies and waiting rooms. I am convinced now that US TV causes permanent brain damage if you watch it too much.

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    Hill Dweller says:

    @Amir Khalid: The WH press corps, especially the front row, is awful.

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    hhex65 says:

    @kd bart: In Tamarian we’d say: “Joe Morgan, stopped in airport.”

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    Violet says:

    Since this is an open thread, I’m excited to report that one of my banana trees appears to be about to flower. I might get some bananas! I didn’t think they produced any fruit until the fall, but maybe the very mild winter had something to do with it.

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    I broke my pinky toe today, walking back into my office and kicked a case of copy paper. And no I am no going to the doctors cause they would cut off my fucking foot “just in case” I have it iced right now. It will heal.

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    jl says:

    @joel hanes: And not to diss the GOP, but my understanding is that Eisenhower was not a ‘real’ GOPper. Apparently was apolitical until shortly before his candidacy. I forget his reasoning for running as a GOP.

    Frankly, can’t think of many good lifer Republicans since Theodore Roosevelt and Hoover (who was sincere and well intentioned, and started many New Deal ideas on a small scale, but was a victim of circumstances that were over his head, and so remembered as a failure).

    Sorry, GOP, the New Deal drove most of it mad, and in a deranged weakened mental state, civil rights in the 50s and 60s drove most of the remaining sane people into political depravity.

    A sad end (I hope they are nearing the end in their present form) to a formerly great party.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik:

    I used to mistake Mike Tyson and Bryant Gumbel all the time.

    I know, right? I’m the same with Whoopie Goldberg and Michelle Obama.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @joel hanes:
    Eisenhower was also, in the very best sense of the term, a political general. He was in charge of a multinational, polyglot army that was constantly being pulled in several different directions by the different national governments that contributed to its forces. He was also given a crew of absolute primadonnas for subordinates. Somehow he managed to get better cooperation between Montgomery, Patton, and de Gaulle than German High Command could between the Army, Luftwaffe, and Waffen SS. That was not an ability to be sneezed at.

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    Chris says:

    @jl:

    And not to diss the GOP, but my understanding is that Eisenhower was not a ‘real’ GOPper. Apparently was apolitical until shortly before his candidacy. I forget his reasoning for running as a GOP.

    If he hadn’t run as a Republican, their nominee would have been Robert Taft, an ultra-conservative and an isolationist who was opposed to the Cold War. Having lived through the 1930s, Eisenhower wanted to head off isolationism at its source before Taft had a chance to mainstream it, which he did by beating him in the Republican primary.

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    chrome agnomen says:

    @The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik:

    he should be glad he wasn’t wearing a hoodie.

    /apologies if anyone else said this.

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    The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik says:

    @chrome agnomen:

    But he would’ve deserved it if he did. You know, because only incurable thugs wear hoodies.

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    Calming Influence says:

    @Violet: Damn straight! It’s all bullshit, amiright?!? Cole is just fuckin’ with us! Attica! Attica! Attica!

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    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    I believe the best thing to do for a broken toe is Buddy Taping. Get some first aid tape and tape it to the toe next to it. I think this is what the docs do, there’s no real good way to cast or splint it.

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    amk says:

    Chuck Todd’s already halfway down into my vest pocket, looking for loose doubloons.

    Purrfect. Didja hear that chucky toady ?

    @Violet: You put every graf under blockquotes. Site makeover ? What makeover ?

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    So did you all pee pee yourselves when Glenn Greenwald interviewed Rachel Maddow

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    Raven says:

    @Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: Put the sumbitch in a cooler full of ice water for 15 minutes on 30 minutes off as much as you can handle it.

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    WyldPirate says:

    Uh-oh…Rachel Maddow was just shrill. She called out the Obama administration on ignoring the Bushes criminal conspiracy to commit acts of torture. She basically said Obama was turning a blind eye to the issue that crimes were committed.

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    Pavonis says:

    Drudge and the right-wing blogosphere are pushing the rumor that Kagan’s office leaked the fact that Obamacare was struck down 5-4 in the vote last Friday. The evidence? Obama’s speech criticizing a decision to string down the law as “judicial activism”.

    Really? Did they hear the same speech I did? If Obama knew the law had already been struck down, he would have used much stronger language than he did. But I guess even mild criticism from the POTUS is too much for the delicate feelings of right-wingers.

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    amk says:

    @WyldPirate: she can keep fucking that chicken till mehmney comes to rule the roost.

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    Violet says:

    @amk:
    So it’s the annoying every paragraph in a separate blockquote solution instead of several paragraphs within one blockquote? That’s so clunky!

    Okay,I’m going to test it and see what happens.

    This is paragraph one. It’s blockquoted.

    This is paragraph two. It’s blockquoted separately.

    This is three. Do they all show up separately?

    Now here’s the test with the underscores:

    This is paragraph one. It’s blockquoted.
    __
    This is paragraph two. I used underscores to separate it.
    __
    This is paragraph three. More underscores.

    Edit: Okay, NOW the underscores worked. They didn’t in the previous post. And for some FYWP reason I was also not allowed to edit the comment on that thread, even though I was within the window of time and the edit window loaded properly.

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    Svensker says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    I broke my pinky toe today, walking back into my office and kicked a case of copy paper. And no I am no going to the doctors cause they would cut off my fucking foot “just in case” I have it iced right now. It will heal.

    I broke mine once getting out of a water bed. Don’t ask. Hippies were involved.

    Hurts like hell, doesn’t it?

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    Sly says:

    I always thought Warren Harding was the ideal Republican President of the modern era; he died two years into his first term and was far too incompetent to do any lasting damage to the country. Sure, he did leave us with Coolidge, who I would contend is more responsible for the Great Depression than Herbert Hoover, but Ike wasn’t exactly praiseworthy in his choice of successor either.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @joel hanes:

    Ike also apparently wrote a letter before each of the major actions, to be submitted if the battle was lost; in these letters, he accepted full responsibility for the loss and praised the forces under his command for their efforts.

    Ike’s D-Day memo is on display in the National Archives in Washington, alongside such documents as the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

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    lacp says:

    @Sly: I hope you’re not referring to Nixon. Ike hated Nixon.

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    Poopyman says:

    Now that today’s insanity at work has died down I can report on yesterday’s gig as election judge down here in the wingnutty part of MD.
    __
    First the numbers. Total turnout was 19%, and about 2 to 1 Reps/Dems.
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    Reps were not at all enthused. Neither were the Dems, particularly, but at least they weren’t complaining about their choices. However, the Reps were unified in their hatred of That One. As was at least one particularly nasty-assed Dem, surprisingly. But then again, this is the part of MD that was almost unanimously Confederate – Steny Hoyer’s “other” part of his district. Salt of the earth folks, every one of ’em.
    __
    Ah well. At least I got a day away from the insanity at work to see what my fellow citizens are thinking. (Nightmares ensue.)

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    Calming Influence says:

    @Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: Litlebritdifrnt, do not listen to Brother SSoR. He’s just trying to get you to bind your feet to make you submissive.

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    Ben Franklin says:

    here in the wingnutty part of MD.

    Rockville?

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    Calouste says:

    When Romney gives a speech like that I’d like to see Warren Buffett go up to him and do what Australian media Billionaire Kerry Packer did to a Texas oil Millionaire who was bragging about his wealth: pull a coin out of his pocket and say “How much did you say you were worth, $250 million? Heads or tails?”

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    Sly says:

    @lacp:

    I hope you’re not referring to Nixon. Ike hated Nixon.

    Did Ike have another Vice President that I don’t know about?

    Anyway, Eisenhower’s personal feelings toward the man notwithstanding, Ike (who was the oldest President in history at the time) did pick Nixon to succeed him, and Nixon either originated or approved some of the worst impulses of the Eisenhower administration when it came to foreign policy.

    The fact that Eisenhower hated him is irrelevant. If John McCain secretly hated Sarah Palin, would that have made his decision to put her a heartbeat away from the Oval Office any less unforgivable?

    Hell, FDR has become the anointed God-Emperor of contemporary liberalism, and I’d certainly sing his praises. But that doesn’t change the fact that his (political) decision of making John Nance Garner, a vitriolic racist and union-buster, his Vice President any less nauseating. If FDR died before 1938, we would be living in a much worse country today.

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    @Ben Franklin: I had a poli-sci friend who said to this day MD was split between tobacco-Maryland, and wheat-Maryland, a hundred and seventy years on….

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    RossInDetroit says:

    what’s on the agenda this evening?

    Probably alcohol. When your day includes having to say “have you thought about the logistics of giving away a third of a ton of frozen pork?” and the answer is blank stares from the intended giver, there’s probably no saving that day. Except single malt. There’s always that.

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    David Koch says:

    PPP: Obama with 8 pt lead in Nevada (51-43)

    http://t.co/e2RONEpa

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    Fuck Eisenhower what the fuck are you people smoking

    You have motherfucking Stockholm Syndrome because George W. Bush abused you

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    Bnut says:

    I’m prep cooking all night for a day long food truck event tomorrow. Meatballs in chili sauce subs, quinoa and veggie lettuce wraps with an Asian-style sesame sauce, turkey burgers, shrimp pesto grilled cheese and an antipasto salad. Black Keys on the radio, red wine one hand, knife in the other.

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    @Davis X. Machina:

    I had a poli-sci friend who said to this day MD was split between tobacco-Maryland, and wheat-Maryland, a hundred and seventy years on….

    Yes, and you can tell the difference by the number of Russian women working at your hotel

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    sfinny says:

    @Bnut: Gee thanks, now I’m hungry.

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @Roger Moore: I think Andrew Johnson was the worst, he basically was giving the South back to the Confederates until congress stepped in. Of course Rutherford B. Hayes would do it anyway, but by then the GOP didn’t give a flying f–k about the plight of African Americans.

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    I just finished a mockup for something that will hopefully eventually be used in the real world and am going to play Portal again because XC on Wii doesn’t come out until Friday

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    David Koch says:

    As Nevada goes, so goes the country.

    Nevada has voted for the winning presidential candidate in 24 of the last 25 general elections.

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    bootsy says:

    Apologize if this has been shared already, and I know nobody needs news from me… But this is pretty cool: Coke dumps #ALEC.

    Now, if only they’d dump the Chamber of (Oil) Commerce.

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    im nevada ~wink~

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    chrome agnomen says:

    @Poopyman:

    ‘salt of the earth’. heh isn’t that what you do to make it sterile?

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    There are also more mundane-seeming states near the Mason-Dixon that are reliable bellwethers

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    But Nevada, Nevada is a bellwether state with regulated whorehouses

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    Note the etymology of “bellwether” which involves extreme Freudian imagery

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    chrome agnomen says:

    @RossInDetroit:

    laphroaig is my choice tonight

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    Mr Stagger Lee says:

    @Sly: Herbert Hoover is your classic reverse Jimmy Carter, he had a great reputation for his humanitarian works and lost it when he left the White House in 1933.

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    jl says:

    @AA+ Bonds:

    ” Fuck Eisenhower what the fuck are you people smoking

    You have motherfucking Stockholm Syndrome because George W. Bush abused you ”

    Looks like we are going to be smoking Rmoney spliffs with unknown additives for next 6 months and change. Give us a break, OK? We are trying to deal with it.

    Also too, commenter above’s argument for Harding for greatest GOP pres of 20th century has dome merit.

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    David Koch says:

    New Mexico is another amazing bellwether: also voting for the winner in 24 of the last 25 elections.

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    To be fair David is also counting 2000 as a year when Nevada picked the winning candidate which liberals will disagree with I am sure because they are in denial about who runs what

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    Chris says:

    If we’ve moved on from “worst Republican presidents” to “worst presidents in our history,” I’d like to throw Andrew Jackson’s name into the hat, please. Qualifications: ethnic cleansing.

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    Latest poll I read out of Nevada was a statistical tie between Obama and Romney

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    The worst President was all of them. Kill the rich and take their things.

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    Bnut says:

    No opening day baseball thread? Guess nobody wants to hear all my reasons for why the Yankees are the greatest franchise in sports history and you wish they were your team, lol. Oh, and the Orioles lost to a community college team yesterday. Haha.

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    Kill the Yankees and take their things.

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    jeffreyw says:

    We are redoing the patio in the front. Tore down two wooden decks and salvaged the 1×6 treated decking. I spent the day turning the old lumber into a bench for a container garden, and knocked together a neat little rig for a cherry tomato plant.

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    chrome agnomen says:

    @AA+ Bonds:

    i was thinking about this the other day, and came to this conclusion: kill the rich and destroy all their things, so we won’t end up fighting over them ourselves. it would lower the standard of living to where many of the so-called poor would become middle class again.

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    David Koch says:

    @AA+ Bonds:

    “Nevada really encapsulates the last 6 months in the Pres race. Obama more popular, Romney less popular, Obama lead on the rise. Last April Romney led Obama by 3 in Nevada. In October they were tied. Now Obama leads by 8, 51-43.” ~ PPP

    Looks like Nevadans don’t want to hold aspirin bwtn their knees.

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    gex says:

    @The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik: The idea of describing Torii Hunter that way is hilarious.

    I love that dude from this Twins days.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    I’m still trying to figure out what the Republicans’ plan for November is. I know they’re going to try to make Obama as unpopular as possible, but as John Kerry can tell you, running against an unpopular incumbent isn’t as easy as it looks. And I don’t see any way in hell for Romney to increase his own popularity by the time the election rolls around.

    In other news, I rode Cocoa to work twice this week. Thinking about riding again tomorrow, but I can only do one way because I’ll be there late for an event tomorrow night. Definitely discovered that changing my shirt at work (or at least doing a wipedown when I get there) is the way to go — I tried to just hop off the bike and go straight to my desk, but I felt a little clammy even with my DuoDry shirt and sports bra.

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    @chrome agnomen:

    When the masses took the Alexander Palace, they came upon a gilt room, ringed with Fabergé eggs. They hissed, and rushed forward eagerly to smash them.

    One man leapt in front and said, -Wait!

    Why should we not smash them now! the cries came back.

    Comrades! he said. All of this is ours now!

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    rikyrah says:

    @urlhix:

    bringing up The Wire.

    lol

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    AA+ Bonds says:

    @David Koch:

    Gallup’s most recent has the split within the margin of error

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @jeffreyw:

    I see Bitsy was supervising your efforts. Did she approve of the final result, or just fall back asleep?

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Ben Franklin:

    here in the wingnutty part of MD

    I lived in Maryland for a year or so, and that could apply to pretty much anywhere outside of Baltimore or Montgomery Counties. Remember, MD was a ‘border state’ during the Civil War, closely split between supporting the USA and CSA. Funny how some things don’t change.

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    Poopyman says:

    @chrome agnomen:

    ‘salt of the earth’. heh isn’t that what you do to make it sterile?

    Well, down here it’s pretty much that way already. That was a reference to the Blazing Saddles line.

    @Davis X. Machina: Between here and here it’s definitely Marlboro Country.

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    jl says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Cocoa is you bike? At first I thought you were riding a horse named Cocoa to work. That would be cool.

    Sounds so cool, I am going to figure out a way to do that. As soon as I can figure out how to afford a horse, and find a job in a place where I can keep one. I guess it has to be plan Z for the time being.

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    Poopyman says:

    Well poop, in moderation for too many links. I’m just gonna go to bed.

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    jeffreyw says:

    @Mnemosyne: She thinks it’s nice and all, but she is wondering what’s in it for her. She is probably thinking that the cage will not keep her from pooping in that nice dirt, but nice try!

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    Citizen_X says:

    @AA+ Bonds: In Oklahoma, Fabergé eggs are legally people now.

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    Cacti says:

    @WyldPirate:

    Uh-oh…Rachel Maddow was just shrill. She called out the Obama administration on ignoring the Bushes criminal conspiracy to commit acts of torture. She basically said Obama was turning a blind eye to the issue that crimes were committed

    Why do you still bother with the emo-prog concern troll bit? Everyone here knows you’re a peckerwood.

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    MikeJ says:

    @Mike in NC: I was going to say St. Mary’s county. I’ve been hunting there. Or up near Frostburg where I spent too much time in machine rooms.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @jl:

    Cocoa is my new bike, who I love very very much. Ironically, my office is in an area where I could ride a horse to work, and it ain’t rural in the least.

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    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason says:

    @Mike in NC: __
    And Baltimore was a little bit iffy in the Civil War. First bloodshed was the Battle of Pratt Street when Mobtown took on the 6th Massachusetts, marching from President St Station to the B&O.
    __
    After that, the Union Army occupied Federal Hill and turned the cannons from facing the harbor to facing downtown.
    __
    My favorite comment on Maryland regions was Schaefer’s reaction to losing part of the vote while winning the Governorship: “How’s that shithouse of an Eastern Shore?”

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    danielx says:

    @Roger Moore:

    My parents were “Eisenhower Republicans”, and remained so until 1968, when they decided they couldn’t deal with Richard Nixon. Eisenhower had promised to end the fighting in Korea, which eventually he did, so he got their votes. It was kind of a big deal at the time because pop had been called up again after six years of being a civilian and a year after being married, and he was not happy about it…to put it mildly. I asked him at one point why he’d voted for Eisenhower, and he said it was basically a reaction against “that sonofabitch Douglas MacArthur who sent me to New Guinea and then got me called up again in 1950”. Voting for Eisenhower was the biggest fuck-you he could think of to send to MacArthur since the two generals loathed each other, but he said Eisenhower was actually a pretty good choice. Of course, good ol’ Ike could have been a raving lunatic and a lot of WWII vets would have voted for him if he was running against Jesus.

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    A Humble Lurker says:

    @Cacti:
    Which I did not get at all. What’s wrong with not saying ‘HANG THEM ALL!’ and stirring up shit when you’ve got nothing on them? Isn’t it better to keep your yap shut and let the authorities look into it so that if/when they do you can say ‘Well, it’s out of my hands. These guys are the authorities and they say this is the case’ thereby keeping the perception of partisanship and politics out of the investigation? Seems like the smart thing to do, and it keeps you from looking like an idiot screaming about crap that there may be no evidence for.

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