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  1. 1
    RossInDetroit says:

    Well, I’m ‘working from home’ today so you’ll all be tired of me by the end of the day.

  2. 2
    amorphous says:

    A few days ago someone was asking who the former front-pager who was planning to write about energy policy was. According to my History of Balloon Juice Front Pagers book, it was MMonides, front pager 9 of 15 I believe.

  3. 3
    Martin says:

    A man was arrested outside the U.S. Capitol with what he thought was an explosive vest, CNN and Fox report. The vest held fake explosives, CNN reports. TPM is working to confirm the story and report additional details.

    Well, that should be an interesting story to follow. Less humorous than the poor bastard that flew into POTUS airspace with a plane full of weed, though.

  4. 4
    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Does anyone know why the FP post of a few weeks ago, “By Their Works Ye Shall Know Them,” is linked under Pages along with the tripartite Lexicon, the FAQ and Privacy Policy and so on? not a problem, I’m just curious.

  5. 5
    IM says:

    This whole passage of the payroll tax cut extension etc. deal, that is all things considered a victory of the white house, isn’t it?

    A few months ago I would not thought the white house would get such a good deal.

  6. 6
    Martin says:

    Details

    Another FBI terrorism sting operation has led to the arrest of a man who believed he was plotting an attack on the U.S. Capitol. Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd confirmed to TPM that there was an arrest of a suspect in connection with a terrorism investigation and that the arrest “was the culmination of an undercover operation during which the suspect was closely monitored by law enforcement.”

    Chalk another one up in the Obama column. Suspect thought he was carrying out an al Qaeda mission.

  7. 7
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Martin:

    Very interesting.

    Naturally, it’s going to take a while longer than the attention span of Leslie Blitzer to figure this one out.

  8. 8
    Maude says:

    @Martin:
    Bush had people running around so scared they were frantic. Turns out that a lot of the terrorists like this guy are too stupid to hurt us. What’s that say about Bush?

  9. 9
    Martin says:

    @IM:

    A few months ago I would not thought the white house would get such a good deal.

    The GOP is realizing that there are limits to this obstructionism crap, and that candidate Obama is a more powerful adversary than President Obama.

    It’s a pretty good deal. Even the offsets aren’t bad – mostly cutting what the government will pay for Medicare/Medicaid services, which is what they want anyway. It’s interesting how bipartisan the vote was in both the House and Senate – we haven’t seen that in a long time. Obama might actually get some shit done the next few months.

  10. 10
    trollhattan says:

    Strictly for entertainment, iphone autocorrect fails, captured for your amusement/mocking.

    http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit.....rect-fails

  11. 11
    amk says:

    Big dem wins in OK.

  12. 12
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Maude:

    A fearful populace is much more easy to control and direct.

    This is Asshole Totalitarian 101.

  13. 13
    Martin says:

    @Maude:

    Bush had people running around so scared they were frantic. Turns out that a lot of the terrorists like this guy are too stupid to hurt us. What’s that say about Bush?

    Yeah, I agree. Steady competence wins over frantic action any day. But it’s still concerning that there was a guy inside the US willing to walk into Congress with a suicide vest, even if he wouldn’t have gotten any further than the front metal detectors. Stupid guys with enough intent to overcome their stupidity are still dangerous.

  14. 14
    IM says:

    @Martin:

    Obama might actually get some shit done the next few months.

    Now that I doubt. I am quite sure that this bill is the last of any consequence prior to the elections.

  15. 15
    JPL says:

    Rumor has it that DeWine is jumping ship to support Santorbum.
    Personally, I was hoping that Santorbum was resigning because Mitt promised him Health and Human Services.

  16. 16

    @Maude:

    What’s that say about Bush?

    Bush was the one doing the terrorizing?

  17. 17
    Mark S. says:

    Reading Bobo, one wonders how religious people succeed at anything since they are all so humble and could drop everything any minute and go take care of the poor in Calcutta. Maybe this explains why St. Francis of Assisi sucked at high jump, or why St. Bernard’s football team came in last in the Bundesliga.

  18. 18

    The GOP is realizing that there are limits to this obstructionism crap, and that candidate Obama is a more powerful adversary than President Obama.

    Candidate Obama is a force to be reckoned with.

    Do you think they are struggling with the idea of actually having to work with the guy four more years?

  19. 19
    Culture of Truth says:

    (CNN) – Newt Gingrich’s campaign released a new ad Friday directed towards the Arizona Latino community, ahead of the state’s February 28 primary. The 30-second spot, “Latinos with Newt,” features four Hispanic supporters detailing why they want to see Gingrich in the White House.

    “We owe Barack Obama nothing. Many of our people have lost their jobs. Others have lost their homes,” one supporter said in the ad, as an image of Hispanic workers sitting idly on a curb appears on screen.

  20. 20
    jibeaux says:

    @Martin:

    Ha ha. For some reason it is amusing me to elaborate on this whole thing….they give him one of those ranks and weird titles militia guys like….they give him an “explosive” vest filled with leftover Valentine’s candy….they tell him the chicks are absolutely going to go for him afterwards, that this time it’s all going to be different….

  21. 21
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Martin:

    Well, as was pointed out in the Harry Potter books, IRT Draco Malfoy’s assassination plot against Dumbledore, not really caring about the collateral damage as you seek to accomplish your mission makes the your mad bomber more dangerous, not less.

  22. 22
    Samara Morgan says:

    @amorphous: MMonides was pretty cool, but the juicers drove him off.
    He was a jew, btw… doesnt that make the juicitariat anti-semitic?

    Would that the juicers would drive Kain off…..hes far more evil.
    he is a glibertarian.

  23. 23
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @JPL:

    Personally, I was hoping that Santorbum was resigning because Mitt promised him Health and Human Services.

    We may be past that point…OvenMitt has this bad tendency to make things personal, and burn potential bridges to ash in the process.

    Plus, there’s the entire “you can’t trust him” problem that the 27% will probably never get past.

  24. 24
    Martin says:

    @Linda Featheringill:

    Do you think they are struggling with the idea of actually having to work with the guy four more years?

    Yeah. But I think they’re also grasping with the idea that 2010 might have been a huge outlier. Look at amk’s post up above. Look at the polling leading into the election. Consider that the GOP might have a pathetically weak candidate and the Dems have the energy this cycle. They’ve got to realize that they’re in trouble and need to win voters back.

    @Villago Delenda Est: I think the House tea party freshman illustrate the same point. They seem to be entirely too willing to fight to the end, nation and their own re-election be damned.

  25. 25
    amk says:

    @JPL: even ovenmitt’s supporters are flip-floppers.

  26. 26
    Mike in NC says:

    @Maude:

    Bush had people running around so scared they were frantic. Turns out that a lot of the terrorists like this guy are too stupid to hurt us. What’s that say about Bush?

    That he’s a terrorist still at large, IMHO.

  27. 27
    Amir Khalid says:

    Bruce Springsteen has previewed his new album to media in Paris. during the press conference, he told reporters that he wants America to be more like Sweden. When word of this reaches the US, I predict that right-wing heads will asplode.

  28. 28
    Li says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17076378

    Looks like someone was going to try and pull a significant currency manipulation. I doubt that the conspiracy ends with eight people, if they had any intention of using those fake bearer bonds in any quantity.

  29. 29
    trollhattan says:

    @Culture of Truth:

    Four, huh? Sounds about right.

  30. 30
    schrodinger's cat says:

    @amorphous: There are nine front pagers listed on the rhs. You know what that makes Tim. F., seven of nine.

    ETA: Rhs=right hand side

  31. 31
    BudP says:

    Be sure and tell your Republican friends and family that Willard likes to baptize dead peoples into Mormons.

    1) They do not know about this.

    2) They won’t like it.

  32. 32
    Culture of Truth says:

    Santorum on contraception: Obama is a racist

  33. 33
    amk says:

    @BudP: hell, miitt did it to his own father-in-law, who apparently was a non-believer. wonder how ann romney lives with herself, let alone with ovenmitt.

  34. 34
    Samara Morgan says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: you dont remember MMonides?
    it was right after i started here.
    i think he got a raw deal.

  35. 35
    Sir Nose'D says:

    Science now tells us why Cole is so ornery.

    Published in the journal Psychological Science, the new study found that men who have experienced military service tend to score lower than civilian counterparts on measures of agreeableness — a dimension of personality that influences our ability to be pleasant and accommodating in social situations

    This is good news for John McCain!

  36. 36
    Samara Morgan says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: chu kno…….for someone that claims to understand quantum uncertainty, i find you amazingly thick.
    ;)

  37. 37
    amorphous says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: I’m counting the retirees and part timers, too, but I think I need to revise my count.

    The listed plus Michael D, Tom from Texas, Kain, ABL, Randinho, Betty Cracker, Soonergrunt, and MMonides actually make 17. I think that’s all.

  38. 38
    Lee says:

    @Maude: I’ve always maintained that the Bush administration was run by cowards. It was not so much they wanted the populace scared, it was that they were terrified and did not have the fortitude to EVER do the right thing. They always did the ‘thing’ that made them feel safer, whether it was correct thing to do or not.

  39. 39
    TooManyJens says:

    @amorphous: You forgot Poland Sarah Proud and Tall!

  40. 40
    Amir Khalid says:

    @Samara Morgan:
    That was before I started coming here, I think. Did the Juicitariat really drive him off just for being Jewish?

  41. 41

    I hear about baptizing dead people every now and then. What’s the big deal? I certainly don’t care.

    Is that worse than praying for a soul after it has departed?

    Is it worse than mummifying the corpse and then burying the whole thing with lots of treasure and advice for getting along in the afterlife?

    Hey. Mortality is a bitch.

  42. 42
    Paul in KY says:

    Bonnaroo tics go on sale tomorrow (1200 EDT). So far excellent lineup (although I don’t want any Beach Boy stroking out in the heat).

    If you have never been & can stand camping in a tent, heat, portajohns, and lots of stoned white people (and you love music), you oughta come on down. You won’t regret it.

  43. 43
    Lee says:

    @Samara Morgan:

    Why did he get run off? Abuse in the comments?

  44. 44
    TooManyJens says:

    @Linda Featheringill: If people had wanted to be Mormons, they could have done that while they were alive. Baptizing people into some other religion after they die is just a big “Fuck You” to what they actually wanted. Now, I don’t think that dead people are in a position to know the difference, but sheesh, what arrogance.

  45. 45
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    This is probably another one of her totally detached from reality fantasies. She’s got all the inherent credibility of OvenMitt.

  46. 46
    Raven says:

    Paul, no dogs, fuck em.

  47. 47
    Paul in KY says:

    @Sir Nose’D: What the Hell kind of ‘study’ is that!!! God dammit, if I could get those POS authors in my squadron back when I was in the military I’d have them digging fucking latrines down to…

    Oh, er well I would have to say I disagree with the premise.

  48. 48
    amk says:

    @Linda Featheringill: False equivalencies. Praying for souls is the same as digging up corpses for fucking ‘baptizing’ how ?

  49. 49

    @Amir Khalid:

    Did the Juicitariat really drive him off just for being Jewish?

    Nah. His religion/ethnicity wasn’t an issue. The only reason I knew he was Jewish was his nom de plume: MMonides [Maimonides].

  50. 50
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @TooManyJens:

    The other problem of course is that it deeply offends the relatives of those who have been “baptized” who have a far better idea of the druthers of the deceased than some total stranger wearing magic underwear.

  51. 51
    Schlemizel says:

    @Martin:
    My fav at the moment is the ICE agents that were shot dead in San Diego. Seems two of them got in a fight & one shot the other to death so a third agent shot the shooter.

    I thought carry laws were the answer! Surly the first guy knew everyone there was strapped so he would never shoot anyone.

  52. 52
    amorphous says:

    @TooManyJens: I don’t know whether to count John Cole twice… I’m on to you, Cole.

  53. 53
    kindness says:

    @Samara Morgan: The correct term is ‘He is Jewish’. Do you go out of your way to be an asshole all the time? Your family is so lucky.

  54. 54
    Paul in KY says:

    @Raven: Yup. No pets allowed. Given the people crap you might step in if you get off the beaten path, I don’t know if I would want to add animal crap to the mix.

  55. 55
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Paul in KY:

    LOL.

    Sing it, brother, even if you were a Zoomie!

  56. 56
    TooManyJens says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: Indeed. I mean, if someone decides they want to baptize me into their religion after I die, I’ll just start pre-emptively thinking they’re a giant asshole now, and be done with it. But if they upset my family with that shit? I hope they get what they deserve.

  57. 57
    Benjamin Franklin says:

    @Schlemizel:

    I thought carry laws were the answer! Surly the first guy knew everyone there was strapped so he would never shoot anyone.

    Just ask anyone in Arizona…..GUNWALKER !!!!!

  58. 58

    @TooManyJens:

    Baptizing people into some other religion after they die is just a big “Fuck You” to what they actually wanted. Now, I don’t think that dead people are in a position to know the difference, but sheesh, what arrogance.

    My parents were very right wing, almost fascist. Racist pigs and bigots, too. After they died, I purchased trees in Israel in their name as a memorial. I did this because I knew it would have pissed them off had they known. And I probably disturbed their peaceful slumber.

  59. 59
    Samara Morgan says:

    @kindness: im bored with explaining this.
    i dont have any wiring for tact.

  60. 60
    TooManyJens says:

    @Linda Featheringill: Well, hey, if you’re doing it because you think it would have pissed them off, at least that’s what you’re doing. You’re not pretending to be doing them a favor.

  61. 61
    Mark S. says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    I don’t remember it real well, but the day he started there was a post about Israel (by a different FPer) where he took part in the comments on the pro-Israel side. It got pretty heated, he got pissed off, and never came back.

  62. 62
    Samara Morgan says:

    @Amir Khalid: yes.

  63. 63
    gex says:

    Have we reached the point where the libertarian/religious freak coalition are considering replacing Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Presidency with the Pope? The former will love the cost savings and most of the policies (as they are mostly white men) and the latter would think they’d died and gone to heaven.

    At this rate, I’m not sure we’d do any worse on gay and women policies, as Americans are doing pretty badly on those already. But we might improve our war and death penalty policies.

  64. 64
    Samara Morgan says:

    @Mark S.: that isnt how i remember it.
    the juicers went rage-raver on him.
    it was when that old newslady lost her front row press core seat.

  65. 65
    handsmile says:

    I’m choosing to regard this Guardian article, “US Officials believe Iran sanctions will fail, making military action likely,” as just more saber-rattling, particularly as the article’s principal sources are anonymous.

    Officials in key parts of the Obama administration are increasingly convinced that sanctions will not deter Tehran from pursuing its nuclear programme, and believe that the US will be left with no option but to launch an attack on Iran or watch Israel do so.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....ary-action

    Surely any sentient being realizes that any significant military action between Israel and Iran, much less between the US and Iran, is nothing other than a global catastrophe. But then again, a Friedman Unit ago, what sentient being would believe that Rih Santorum would be the leading GOP presidential candidate or that contraceptive use would be a main topic of Village media palaver.

    Yesterday a bipartisan group of 32 senators signed a resolution “to reaffirm the unacceptability of an Iran with nuclear weapons capability” and to oppose “any policy that would rely on containment as an option in response to the Iranian nuclear threat.”

    And in two weeks, Bibi comes to town to headline AIPAC and to demand fealty from the leadership of both US major political parties.

  66. 66
    Cheap Jim says:

    @Samara Morgan: What a wonderful euphemism for “I have the manners of a hyena”. And how convenient an excuse for acting out, kid.

  67. 67
    Samara Morgan says:

    @TooManyJens: http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....print.html

    the mormons dead-baptized Obamas mother and Simon Wiesenthals parents.

  68. 68
    Lee says:

    @Mark S.: Ahhhhh yep. I remember that now.

  69. 69
    artem1s says:

    evidently NH has decided that it doesn’t want VA to pass them as the #1 retrofuck state in the nation. they are doubling down on the stoopid

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....84934.html

  70. 70
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I don’t know that this will matter, but I think it will piss Willard off, and I despise Willard, so it makes me happy

    DeWine, a Romney endorser, will announce his decision to change endorsements in remarks at the Ohio State House in Columbus, OH. Santorum is currently leading Romney in the state, 42 percent to 24 percent in the latest Rasmussen poll.The Romney camp was reportedly “blindsided” by today’s news, and DeWine did not signal his intentions in advance.

    all kinds of angry Mormon swears echoing off the walls of whatever suite Romney is staying in. “Tarnation! He’s a bad actor! My gosh!”

  71. 71
    gene108 says:

    I want to avenge the War of 1812 and conquer Canada.

    It’s been 200 years, but some wounds never heal.

  72. 72
    Mark S. says:

    @Samara Morgan:

    it was when that old newslady lost her front row press core seat.

    Maybe it was about that; I don’t remember. It had something to do with Jews and Arabs.

  73. 73
    Samara Morgan says:

    @Cheap Jim: merci mille fois pour tous vos infinities des gentillesse, m’sieu.
    ;)

  74. 74
    schrodinger's cat says:

    @Samara Morgan: I didn’t say any thing about MMonides, I remember that he posted a couple of posts and then he disappeared. BTW, I am surprised that you don’t know who Seven of Nine is.

  75. 75
    Samara Morgan says:

    @handsmile: and everyone is studiously ignoring that war on Iran will instantly lead to 20$/gal gasoline.

  76. 76
    Amir Khalid says:

    @Samara Morgan:
    The way Mark S. #61 describes it, it’s not at all clear that MMonides was driven off just because he was Jewish. Do you have a link to the thread?

  77. 77
    pk says:

    I was thinking today how much we take contraception for granted, yet how important it is for modern women. I am only the second generation in my family history where I have had the choice as to how many children and when I would have them. My grandmother, and I assume all the women before her were always prisoners of their biology. She had 9 kids and god knows how many miscarriages. Looking after the kids was all that her life was about. That’s it! There was nothing else. She was not unique, most women had that life. If any man tries to bring back that life back for my daughter I would like to kill him. I cannot believe that in the 21st century, in the US, a country which was always a beacon for scientific advancement there are hearings going on trying to deny contraception to women. And I can’t believe what a burning hatred I have for that row of dressed up jackasses I saw yesterday.

  78. 78
    makewi says:

    Do the rapes that occurred at the Occupy encampments count as rape rapes (ala Whoopi) or should they just be ignored and covered up because it might hurt “the movement” to acknowledge them?

  79. 79
    Samara Morgan says:

    @schrodinger’s cat: wow. i totes empathize with Seven.
    i often feel like im trying to pass for human and failing.
    ;)

  80. 80
    rikryah says:

    Elie Wiesel was on Lawrence O’Donnell this week talking about the baptism stuff with the Mormons.

    he was upset about the Mormons baptizing Simon Wiesenthal, the Nazi Hunter, as well as the hundreds of thousands of other Jews that they’ve baptized. I think it’s insulting.

  81. 81
    Samara Morgan says:

    @Amir Khalid: that was my impression. i was new here, and i was kinda shocked.
    google is your friend.
    knock yourself out.

  82. 82
    gene108 says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    When word of this reaches the US, I predict that right-wing heads will asplode.

    Right-wingers don’t really get Springstein. These comments change nothing.

    They kind of sort of think he’s not particularly liberal because people other than DFH listen to him.

    Probably why they insist on playing “Born in America” to pump up the crowd at their rallies. Catchy chorus, but the rest of the song…not so big on American exceptionalism…

  83. 83
    Ruckus says:

    @TooManyJens:
    but sheesh, what arrogance

    That can be applied to almost any religion.

    BTW. I was baptized and although I can’t say it was against my will, I didn’t have a choice of yes, no or what. And as it is just another silly superstition who really cares? Other than the imposition of someone’s bullshit onto a defenseless entity.

  84. 84
    scav says:

    mademoiselle loca is really trying to push her princess of the innerwebs imitation of Cariboo-boo Barbi today with the winkies and the flirting. Starburst central (avec salade des mots! aujour-d’hui) and she’s bragging about the number of her ponies and rooms for same elsewhere so that’s Cariboo-boo Loko Bucket to the likes of us.

  85. 85
    Paul in KY says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: I think sometimes VDE, after seeing (for the most part) how well run the military was (or at least the USAF O-Clubs), we get short tempered at all the BS you encounter daily out in the civilian world.

    Plus, although I work with some great people at my current job, I worked with some super-dedicated & professional people in the USAF & (I guess) felt more general commraderie than you run into at the usual civilian job.

  86. 86
    handsmile says:

    @Samara Morgan: (#75)

    That would be one of the less deleterious effects. While a straightforward correlation between gasoline prices and presidential approval ratings has been discredited (cf. Nate Silver), that would be one straw that GOP nihilists would be happy to grasp at.

  87. 87
    trollhattan says:

    @Schlemizel:

    “An armed society is a polite society.”

    Yew kin look it up! (I’d start with the Ol’ Perfesser.)

  88. 88
    Chyron HR says:

    @makewi:

    You mean the ones that police found to have been committed by people who weren’t part of the Occupy movement?

    Or are you, as always, ignoring any inconvenient facts that conflict with the Republican “movement”?

  89. 89
    schrodinger's cat says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    When word of this reaches the US, I predict that right-wing heads will asplode.

    I don’t think they have any brains left to explode. Their current behavior indicates lack of any brain function.

  90. 90
    trollhattan says:

    @Samara Morgan:

    I’m betting your sock drawer is meticulous.

  91. 91
    Soonergrunt says:

    @makewi: You’d have to ask someone who is involved with the Occupy movement. Nobody here is that AFAIK. And the fact that you even mention it here is probable cause to believe that it’s a load of shit anyway.

  92. 92
    FormerSwingVoter says:

    @makewi: Does the whoring your mother does count as prostitution? Or should that be covered up so as to not make you think too hard about why you look different than your “father”?

  93. 93
    Jager says:

    @Culture of Truth: Did Newt’s ad show the rest of video, where the idle Hispanic workers were roughed up and arrested by Sheriff Joe’s deputies?

  94. 94
    schrodinger's cat says:

    @rikryah: Mormonism with its history of polygamy and the dead people baptizing sounds positively creepy but most organized religions give me a worried. Most religions just seem like an elaborate plot to keep the undesirables (women and the poor) in their place. Is it really that much crazier than any of the other religions? Or does it seem that way because its craziness doesn’t stretch back to antiquity.

  95. 95
    trollhattan says:

    Hooooboy, TBogg has a shiny new McMegan post up, avec libertarian theology, of sorts.

    http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2.....them-wait/

  96. 96
    WaterGirl says:

    @amorphous: Do you count Libby, who front-paged for a week or so?

  97. 97
    trollhattan says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    It seems that much crazier to me. Somewhat better behaved Ps1ento1ogists.

  98. 98
    Samara Morgan says:

    @scav: wallah.
    Palin is white trash.
    im a certified blueblood.
    she doesnt even know what hunt appointments are i betcha.
    ;)

  99. 99
    handsmile says:

    @Soonergrunt: (#91)

    Simply for you to know, I have been and remain involved with the Occupy movement in New York City. (I wrote a great deal about it here during the Zuccotti Park occupation.)

    I have no interest whatsoever in responding to vile ignorance or long-discredited falsehoods.

  100. 100
    makewi says:

    @Chyron HR:

    So not rape then. OK, I’ll put you down as a denier.

  101. 101
    Samara Morgan says:

    @trollhattan: sadly no. i have a lot of random singletons, their mates having mysteriously disappeared into the alternative lost sock dimension.

  102. 102
    TooManyJens says:

    @makewi: Chyron’s comment:

    You mean the ones that police found to have been committed by people who weren’t part of the Occupy movement?

    Your reply:

    So not rape then.

    So it’s only rape if it’s committed by someone who’s part of Occupy?

  103. 103
    makewi says:

    @Soonergrunt:

    So you disavow the Occupy movement then. Probably smart, what with all the rapes and other criminal behavior.

    Do you want to go on record now as being against their movements to come?

  104. 104
    Soonergrunt says:

    @Samara Morgan: That’s what Heaven actually is, you know–you get back all the shit you lost.
    267 single socks.
    1281 ball-point pens
    93 Bic lighters
    2 keyrings with full sets of keys
    1 cell phone
    2 empty wallets (no cash, it’s just like earth.)
    The spare change doesn’t come back, either.

  105. 105
    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    For those interested in wildlife and such this weekend is the Great Backyard Bird Count

    http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/whycount.html

  106. 106
    Chyron HR says:

    @makewi:

    So are you blaming these Occupy women for getting raped because they’re members of a political movement you disagree with, or is that just your default position on rape, period?

  107. 107
    Soonergrunt says:

    @makewi: I don’t disavow anything having to do with them you stupid shit.
    One must have something to avow, before one disavows anything. And again, the mere fact that you mention it more than doubles the likelihood that it is bullshit.

  108. 108
    sharl says:

    That old B-J post that m_c is probably thinking of – the one that upset short-time front-pager MMonides.

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    scav says:

    @Samara Morgan: Ok, youre Marie Antoinette Cariboo-boo Barbi Loca Bucket Wallah-Voilá’-bing-bong Pius III.

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    Monala says:

    In 2008, Santorum said Satan was taking over and destroying America, starting with academia, then Protestant churches (he would later amend that to “mainline Protestant), then popular culture, and only lastly, politics. Of course, Satan hasn’t made any inroads in the Catholic church, nosiree, and politics are saved by the fact that the good people of small town real Amerika (TM) still elect some of their own.

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    bemused says:

    Old sexist, racist Pat Buchanan is miffed he is now “blacklisted” whining at Am Conservative. I enjoyed this comment there:

    “Thank god. The only reason MSNBC had u on the air was to make the Republicans look like extreme right wing kooks. U have some valid arguments and great points, but face it u were just a tool used to make Republicans look extremely intolerant!”

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    Samara Morgan says:

    @sharl: hmmm….now that i read back over the comments i think that he got run off for being a Zionist or an Israel-Firster is a more accurate conclusion.
    but it was a pretty hostile environment for him here.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Linda Featheringill:

    My parents were very right wing, almost fascist. Racist pigs and bigots, too. After they died, I purchased trees in Israel in their name as a memorial. I did this because I knew it would have pissed them off had they known. And I probably disturbed their peaceful slumber.

    Not quite the same thing as baptizing people you don’t know, and making it a regular practice of your religion.

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Mormonism with its history of polygamy and the dead people baptizing sounds positively creepy but most organized religions give me a worried.

    If you think organized relgion is bad, some of the disoranized brands are even worse. Kazooism, for example. Gave up organs for use in church around 1782, first in favor of bells, and then the kazoo.

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    Svensker says:

    @Soonergrunt:

    Makewi-thing is very good at the “have you stopped beating your wife” kind of questions. Trollalicious!

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    Samara Morgan says:

    @Brachiator: or snakehandling or the church of the living word.
    the living word people screech grunt and speak in tongues.
    its literally terrifying.

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    Svensker says:

    @Monala:

    In 2008, Santorum said Satan was taking over and destroying America, starting with academia, then Protestant churches (he would later amend that to “mainline Protestant),

    He did say that the R.C. church was safe from Satan. I really want someone — like a journalist — to ask him specifically which mainline Protestant churches have been taken over by Satan. The Presbyterians? Lutherans? Methodists? I would love to hear his answer.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @pk:

    Though this may make you even more enraged in retrospect, it’s not that contraception wasn’t available, it’s that women were kept in ignorance that it existed. Margaret Sanger always said that the reason she started Planned Parenthood was that, while she was a nurse, she was actually forbidden from telling her patients that they didn’t have to have child after child after child, that there were devices like diaphragms and condoms that could prevent pregnancy.

    The real birth control struggle has always been a struggle to let women know it exists, because the actual methods have existed for hundreds of years.

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @Monala: He probably thinks that Mother Church is protected by the special ABAMSS* the church has spent so much money on in the last decade. It stays between Father and Satan and prevents Satan from getting to Father and by so doing, protects Mother Church.

    *Altar Boy Anal Mount Shield System

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    makewi says:

    @Chyron HR:

    This from the person who wants to make sure everyone knows that any rapes that might have occurred weren’t done by Occupy members. I’m against rape period, and I don’t think the current move by folks like Olberman and Mediate to whitewash them is a good move. You disagree, clearly.

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    Democratic Nihilist, Keeper Of Party Purity says:

    @Svensker: Can’t blame the guy, he’s got nothing left.

    The GOP, crewed by expert yachtsman Romney (that’s one thing we can all agree he’s good at, right? Rich guy stuff.) is looking forward to a Reagan-style 40-state blowout defeat at the hands of the Obama machine.

    I’d be screeching about rape, too. Anything to deflect the humiliation of losing to a black guy – again.

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    makewi says:

    @Soonergrunt:

    So you deny that it was rape then, since I was the one who told you about it. OK. So you’re concern for women is contingent on their political usefulness.

    I actually would have guessed that about you.

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    makewi says:

    @Svensker:

    I understand why you don’t want to talk about the rapes being perpetrated by your movement. It’s uncomfortable for the cause. Makes you look pro rape.

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @makewi: No, I deny that you are capable of knowing or telling the truth about any subject under discussion. Nothing more or less.

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    Chyron HR says:

    @makewi:

    I understand. You support the Tea Party, but not the individual Tea Partiers who went around raping Occupy protesters. It’s a courageously nuanced stance.

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    makewi says:

    @Chyron HR:

    You are confused. All of the rapes happened at the Occupy encampments, not the tea party. No rapes at all at tea party rallies. None.

    So to sum up. Occupy = rape. Tea party = no rape.

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    makewi says:

    @Soonergrunt:

    So what do you think about the attempt by Mediaite and Keith Olbermann to whitewash the rapes? Do you want to continue to pretend there weren’t any?

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    Chyron HR says:

    @makewi:

    You’re not trolling, are you? You’re actually convinced that when liberals get raped, shot, lynched, etc, it’s their fault.

    Get help, seriously.

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    Democratic Nihilist, Keeper Of Party Purity says:

    Looks like I stuck a nerve. Someone is clearly a little nervous about the incipient GOP defeat.

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    schrodinger's cat says:

    @Brachiator: Are you pulling my leg?

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @makewi: No. We’ve already established that you are an habitual liar. Therefore makewi = bullshit is accurate, but nothing you’ve said here (or anywhere else) has any truth value other than 0.
    We haven’t even started on your unfortunate proclivities regarding Crisco and recycled lawn mulch.

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    Gravenstone says:

    @Soonergrunt: Dude, I admire your persistence and willigness to engage even the most hopeless of causes. But wiwi ia a bear of absolutely no brain (not even a very little), so you’re just giving it the oxygen it needs to threadjack wherever it shows its vapid face.

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @makewi: ^The fact that you mention it means the likelihood that it is a lie approaches 1.

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    makewi says:

    @Soonergrunt:

    I’m nice to you. I’ve given you a reason to ignore rape when it’s committed by your fellow travelers. See, I’m a giver.

    It’s just too bad that you care more for hating me than you do for the welfare of those women your friends raped.

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @Gravenstone: Yes, but the threadjack (can one threadjack an open thread?) has only resulted in the revelation that she’s an habitual liar with a bizarre sexual fetish.

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    makewi says:

    @Chyron HR:

    Right, and yet if it wasn’t for me you would be continuing to ignore the fact that your friends are raping each other and no one seems to care. I actually think you should care about this, but you don’t.

    You put politics over rape victims.

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    Soonergrunt says:

    @makewi: But none of that has ever happened. Because you are a liar. If a liar claims to do something nice, then something nice hasn’t happened. Because the claim is a lie.

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    Cassidy says:

    Sidebar needs to be updated with FPer email.

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    makewi says:

    @Soonergrunt:

    I know dear. It’s what you tell yourself in order to not have to deal with the fact that you are willing to be a rape apologist if it helps you politically. It’s nothing new for your side really, it’s what the morally bankrupt do.

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    Comrade Mary says:

    @gene108:

    I want to avenge the War of 1812 and conquer Canada.

    Bring it, sweetie. And what colour would you like to use to repaint the President’s home this time? :-)

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    Samara Morgan says:

    @makewi: link or GTFO.
    i help with Occupy Denver and we havent had any raping.

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    Samara Morgan says:

    @makewi: link or GTFO.

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    makewi says:

    Sure I’ll give a link.

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    amorphous says:

    @WaterGirl: I must have been away from my computer that week.

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    Cassidy says:

    @makewi: That’s one.

    Do you disavow all Republicans/Conservatives.

    Tool.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @makewi:

    It’s what you tell yourself in order to not have to deal with the fact that you are willing to be a rape apologist if it helps you politically.

    Isn’t that the same thing you’re doing by defending the Catholic Church? Or is rape not so bad when it’s a priest doing the raping?

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    Cassidy says:

    @Mnemosyne: The little fuckstick likes pedophilia. Who’d have guessed that?

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    THE says:

    @Soonergrunt:

    2 empty wallets (no cash, it’s just like earth.) The spare change doesn’t come back, either.

    No need for it.
    The streets of Heaven being paved with gold and all.
    Pearly Gates, etc. etc.
    Just the worth of the mineral specie lying around is a constant wonder to behold.

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    makewi says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    I’m not defending the Catholic Church. So there’s that.

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    Cassidy says:

    @makewi: Not gonna answer me chickenshit?

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    Brachiator says:

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Are you pulling my leg?

    Just punning with you.

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    makewi says:

    @Cassidy:

    Desperate to deflect your rape apologist ways I see. Chickenshit.

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    Cassidy says:

    @makewi: Nope. Applying your same standard to you. Has nothing to do with deflection.

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    makewi says:

    @Cassidy:

    So you think that one rape makes up for another. I disagree.

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    stevestory says:

    was sitting in starbucks earlier. had to leave because the racket was so loud i couldn’t hear my headphones. Went to Krystals. Sitting there currently. About to leave because the racket in here is even louder. Two tvs going, piped-in D-grade country music, every food machine screeching, and customers.

    Why does every machine need an air horn siren?

    And do I really have to hear screeching beeps every time a morbidly obese degenerate at wal-mart has to back up because they overshot the little debbie aisle?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    It was kind of fun to watch toko and wiwi fight for a bit, but this has become a stupid thread.

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    Cassidy says:

    @makewi: Nope. Not at all. Your sidestepping, chickenshit. A Republican plead guilty to rape. Do you disavow the whole Republican party and Conservative movement? Simple question that is no different than what you asked of others.

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    Samara Morgan says:

    @makewi: the occupy girl says that was a “stranger”. obviously not another comrade in protest.
    next link?

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    Evolving Deep Southerner says:

    I know this will send me into moderation because I’m “changing my name,” but I’m shedding the parenthetical appendage. Open thread’s the place to do it, I reckon.

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    Evolving Deep Southerner says:

    Hey, SG. Somebody. Help a brother out.

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    Evolving Deep Southerner says:

    Thanks, bro.

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